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Bitcoin => Bitcoin Discussion => Topic started by: TheBitMan on July 14, 2011, 11:32:37 PM



Title: Gavin Trademark Bitcoin Now!
Post by: TheBitMan on July 14, 2011, 11:32:37 PM
I say we all chip in. Here is why.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=28896.0


Title: Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now!
Post by: kiba on July 14, 2011, 11:40:55 PM
Lawyers are expensive. Might not be worth the money.


Title: Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now!
Post by: rdonohoe on July 14, 2011, 11:58:10 PM
It would be incapable of patent protection in Europe, I assume other places too, as it has been seen publicly therefore does not satisfy the novelty requirement. It's a strict rule; the windsurf lost patent protection because someone had a photo of some kid that stuck a sail on a surf board before the patent was granted.



Title: Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now!
Post by: DamienBlack on July 15, 2011, 12:56:27 AM
There is very little, if anything, to patent. Most of the mechanisms of bitcoin are well known. There is actually very little new about it. That is one of the reasons we can be sure it works.

There really is no worry. Open source software has been around for a long time. Everything will be fine, no patent needed.


Title: Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now!
Post by: kgo on July 15, 2011, 01:01:11 AM
How can Gavin patent it in good faith when it's Satoishi's invention?


Title: Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now!
Post by: kiba on July 15, 2011, 01:02:43 AM
If somebody try to sue people using bitcoin, there will be a media circus.


Title: Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now!
Post by: TiagoTiago on July 15, 2011, 01:08:46 AM
Using patent trolling and that DMCA shit would be an easy shortcut to attack Bitcoin...


Title: Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now!
Post by: DamienBlack on July 15, 2011, 01:13:13 AM
Using patent trolling and that DMCA shit would be an easy shortcut to attack Bitcoin...

Attack what part of bitcoin? There is no company running it to sue. It would be like trying to patent bittorrent in an attempt to take down torrent sites. It just wouldn't work. Besides, you have to patent some process or invention that is unique. While the whole bitcoin concept is unique, I don't think it actually has any patentable parts, because it was made from many preexisting technologies.


Title: Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now!
Post by: TiagoTiago on July 15, 2011, 01:23:35 AM
Making law enforcement treat users of the client as "pirates", issue takedown notices disrupting major sites etc.


I'm not saying that after all is done Bitcoin would be down for the count, but it would still be somthing i would rather not experience.


Title: Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now!
Post by: Leon on July 15, 2011, 01:37:43 AM
What does a "patent" actually do? Anything that is created is technically and legally automaticly "undoucmented copyrighted material". Bitcoin is all over the web already, I don't see how they can do this.

I guess "air" can be patent too?


Title: Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now!
Post by: sadpandatech on July 15, 2011, 01:37:47 AM
Could we please change the thread title to 'Gaven Trademark Bitcoin Now!' instead of 'patent'. There should have been more than enough information provided here in other threads at this point to clear up the patent vs trademark thing.




We do need to have a serious discussion amongst the 'higher ups' about it though. And the sooner the better!


Title: Re: Gavin Trademark Bitcoin Now!
Post by: imperi on July 15, 2011, 01:58:13 AM
I don't think it is necessary for Bitcoin to be trademarked. Just my 2 cents.


Title: Re: Gavin Trademark Bitcoin Now!
Post by: Jointops420 on July 15, 2011, 02:59:49 AM
There is the Law Society in which most of us are subject to through deception but are not bound to it if you can play the game back. How about a Bitcoin Society where we can have our own rules and conduct to abide by. I am no lawyer but I watched a lot of the freeman on the land stuff and did quiet a bit of reading on it. Basically it says that we can form a society with our own rules on uses and conduct with bitcoins separate from other societies law.