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Title: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 15, 2011, 03:03:42 AM Hey folks,
I have been told that Catalyst 11.7 will end the need for dummy plugged video cards in Win7. Is anyone aware of whether or not this is the case? Also, I checked AMD's driver page and can only find 11.6 available for download at the moment, does anyone have an ETA on release or even if the beta is reasonably stable? I have a 5830 sitting here collecting dust due to lack of a dummy plug atm.. Thanks in advance. Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: TurdHurdur on July 15, 2011, 03:05:16 AM You have unused hardware and didn't install Linux to use it...?
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 15, 2011, 03:12:33 AM You have unused hardware and didn't install Linux to use it...? That's correct. I have been waiting to build a second system w/linux but am missing a component. Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: error on July 15, 2011, 03:15:14 AM You have unused hardware and didn't install Linux to use it...? That's correct. I have been waiting to build a second system w/linux but am missing a component. What component are you missing? BTW, I have a few dummy plugs here that I have no use for. I can ship them anywhere in the world. Make me an offer. :) Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 15, 2011, 03:18:42 AM You have unused hardware and didn't install Linux to use it...? That's correct. I have been waiting to build a second system w/linux but am missing a component. What component are you missing? BTW, I have a few dummy plugs here that I have no use for. I can ship them anywhere in the world. Make me an offer. :) I'll make the 20 minute drive to pick up some resistors if it has to come to that, but a simple Catalyst update sure seems more convenient and cost-effective. I'm just waiting on a friend to bring me his old PSU for my second build. Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: error on July 15, 2011, 03:20:28 AM Ah, yes, it's very hard to build a mining rig without a PSU. :)
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 15, 2011, 03:32:36 AM Ah, yes, it's very hard to build a mining rig without a PSU. :) Yes it's one of those great mysteries in life, thanks for the offer btw. Any Catalyst experts out there? Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: tysat on July 15, 2011, 03:43:44 AM I believe 11.6b also does away with the needing dummy plugs...
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst116bHotfix.aspx Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: pandemic on July 15, 2011, 04:19:43 AM I'm running 11.7. Runs fine minus the CPU issue with phoenix. Very stable and does eliminate the need for a dummy plug. Found out about 11.7 minutes after I ordered 20 resistors. :)
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Jack of Diamonds on July 15, 2011, 05:02:08 AM Ah, yes, it's very hard to build a mining rig without a PSU. :) Yes it's one of those great mysteries in life, thanks for the offer btw. Any Catalyst experts out there? Works here, all my rigs work without dummy plugs or being plugged into monitors now after reboot. No need to McGyver with resistors after you install them.. Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 15, 2011, 05:37:51 AM Thanks folks.
For those of you with 11.7, did you find a full version or are you running the release candidate? If it is the full version, have a link? Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 15, 2011, 06:06:43 AM I'm running 11.7. Runs fine minus the CPU issue with phoenix. Very stable and does eliminate the need for a dummy plug. Found out about 11.7 minutes after I ordered 20 resistors. :) Ouch, at least they're cheap, I guess. Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 15, 2011, 06:29:11 AM I believe 11.6b also does away with the needing dummy plugs... http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst116bHotfix.aspx Just tried 11.6B and now both OpenCL and Phoenix use 50+% of my CPU in GUIMiner. Previously only Phoenix had been eating up my CPU resources... I heard this is a common error. Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: tysat on July 15, 2011, 06:31:45 AM I believe 11.6b also does away with the needing dummy plugs... http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst116bHotfix.aspx Just tried 11.6B and now both OpenCL and Phoenix use 50+% of my CPU in GUIMiner. Previously only Phoenix had been eating up my CPU resources... I heard this is a common error. Sadly I don't know anything about that, haven't had any issues so I had not read into solving it. Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: pandemic on July 15, 2011, 02:03:48 PM I'm running 11.7. Runs fine minus the CPU issue with phoenix. Very stable and does eliminate the need for a dummy plug. Found out about 11.7 minutes after I ordered 20 resistors. :) Ouch, at least they're cheap, I guess. $2.50 for 20 68ohm resistors, shipped. Whatever. :) Re: 11.6B, I've had issues with phoenix using 50% of my CPU PER GPU. The fix is to set affinity to just one core. It'll use 100% of it but that will minimize other cores being used. http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=28392.0 Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: pennytrader on July 15, 2011, 03:27:05 PM Does it solve the remote desktop issue?
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: bcpokey on July 15, 2011, 05:53:07 PM Hmm, interesting. I already have tons of dummy plugs but it'd be nice not to have to worry about such things in the future. I'll give 11.7 a whirl later today and report my findings :)
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 15, 2011, 06:17:24 PM Hmm, interesting. I already have tons of dummy plugs but it'd be nice not to have to worry about such things in the future. I'll give 11.7 a whirl later today and report my findings :) I look forward to that. Also, are you using the release candidate or am I somehow missing the full version download? Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: ssateneth on July 16, 2011, 08:17:12 AM I might be blind... I see 11.7 all over but I can't find a direct download link? I want to try to get some of this fabled performance increase.
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: checkmate on July 16, 2011, 09:04:41 AM Despite the version of your driver, don't use CrossfireX - use those dummy plugs; those little bastards need to survive!
:-* Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: pennytrader on July 16, 2011, 10:04:48 PM verified remote desktop works (although MSI afterburners still doesn't show up the card in a remote desktop session). 100% CPU is annoying. So downgrading it to Catalyst 11.6 + SDK 2.1
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: FreeJAC on July 17, 2011, 05:15:11 PM What do you mean remote desktop works?
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Vasili Sviridov on July 18, 2011, 06:00:54 AM If you stop your guiminer via remote desktop, it'll stop seeing opencl. Cannot restart mining because of that...
100% CPU is really annoying. Just added second card - now I have that... Tried using SDK 2.1 - hash rate was total shit and it was still using 100% CPU :( Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: pennytrader on July 18, 2011, 06:24:11 AM 100% CPU will cost you additional power bill so that's actually a reduction in mining profit (or mhs)
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: DrHaribo on July 19, 2011, 01:11:46 PM Trying out the 11.7 preview drivers:
When I mine with 3 GPUs, I have 3 CPU cores running 100% and good hashrate. When I mine with 4 GPUs, I have almost zero CPU-load and hashrate is 3-5% below normal. Anyone else seeing this? I'm on 64-bit Windows 7. Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 19, 2011, 03:42:37 PM Trying out the 11.7 preview drivers: When I mine with 3 GPUs, I have 3 CPU cores running 100% and good hashrate. When I mine with 4 GPUs, I have almost zero CPU-load and hashrate is 3-5% below normal. Anyone else seeing this? I'm on 64-bit Windows 7. Egh.. Sounds like the insanity will continue. Though I'd have to say I would buy an extra card and lose 3-5% hashrate for near-zero CPU-load right now. Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Furyan on July 19, 2011, 10:15:58 PM Trying out the 11.7 preview drivers: When I mine with 3 GPUs, I have 3 CPU cores running 100% and good hashrate. When I mine with 4 GPUs, I have almost zero CPU-load and hashrate is 3-5% below normal. Anyone else seeing this? I'm on 64-bit Windows 7. Sure that isn't a PSU issue? Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 19, 2011, 11:17:37 PM Trying out the 11.7 preview drivers: When I mine with 3 GPUs, I have 3 CPU cores running 100% and good hashrate. When I mine with 4 GPUs, I have almost zero CPU-load and hashrate is 3-5% below normal. Anyone else seeing this? I'm on 64-bit Windows 7. Sure that isn't a PSU issue? Yes. It is happening to many Windows users regardless of PSU. Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: haydent on July 19, 2011, 11:27:30 PM yes it is not specific to any drivers/sdk version, normally occurs with windows and >1 card/gpu
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: error on July 19, 2011, 11:54:47 PM It happens to Linux users too. And it happens with NVIDIA cards. So it's a bit more complex than "Catalyst is doing this". I STILL suspect something weird in the OpenCL kernel or the way it's being executed.
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 20, 2011, 12:57:51 AM It happens to Linux users too. And it happens with NVIDIA cards. So it's a bit more complex than "Catalyst is doing this". I STILL suspect something weird in the OpenCL kernel or the way it's being executed. Linux lovers will accuse you of great blasphemy and badspeak for this. I am constantly told of the Linux mining utopia. Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: haydent on July 20, 2011, 01:02:31 AM in win the only work around ive come to so far is under clocking and core affinity. if only you could throttle a core or process's usage to keep the heat & cpu fan down...
Title: Re: Catalyst 11.7 Post by: error on July 20, 2011, 01:36:41 AM It happens to Linux users too. And it happens with NVIDIA cards. So it's a bit more complex than "Catalyst is doing this". I STILL suspect something weird in the OpenCL kernel or the way it's being executed. Linux lovers will accuse you of great blasphemy and badspeak for this. I am constantly told of the Linux mining utopia. I wish them good luck with accusing me of blasphemy when I've been using Linux as my primary OS longer than many of them have been alive. ;D |