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Title: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: Digital Mutant on February 09, 2018, 03:23:26 PM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: mezzaluna on February 09, 2018, 03:48:03 PM
That might start a new trend and this idea might just happen. Cryptocurrency forks are happening because they want to create new tokens or coins that is still based on the initial Blockchain but wants to create another set of Blockchain so they can utilize this technology. If they start fusing tokens which might work, that will be revolutionizing because they want to fuse Blockchain technologies and they can apply it anywhere they want. There will be mixed platforms with good ideas and that might help the cryptocurrency industry grow.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: player514 on February 09, 2018, 04:24:48 PM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

This is a really interesting thought because the way I see it, crypto is at such an early stage that we don't see many coins that are targeting the same audience. Soon enough, given that crypto currency gets big enough, if there's competition for the same markets, then it makes sense that one coin can aquire the other. The only issue is that there will have to be some type of technology to make sure that people get the amount of the merged coin too. The issue comes from the fact that exchanges don't carry every coin, they carry some coins each.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: alyssa85 on February 09, 2018, 04:28:36 PM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

It's unlikely because there is no way to fuse blockchains. You can do forks (creating two new chains) but as far as I know, you can't merge two chains into one.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: Digital Mutant on February 09, 2018, 08:49:14 PM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

It's unlikely because there is no way to fuse blockchains. You can do forks (creating two new chains) but as far as I know, you can't merge two chains into one.

you can create a new blockchain and swap coins to the new blockchain
...or just invent a new technology


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: Digital Mutant on February 09, 2018, 08:52:12 PM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

This is a really interesting thought because the way I see it, crypto is at such an early stage that we don't see many coins that are targeting the same audience. Soon enough, given that crypto currency gets big enough, if there's competition for the same markets, then it makes sense that one coin can aquire the other. The only issue is that there will have to be some type of technology to make sure that people get the amount of the merged coin too. The issue comes from the fact that exchanges don't carry every coin, they carry some coins each.

yes, this is the point, and of course it is going to be possible in a future context in which adoption is growing and a fusion between blockchains o project can make sense, it seems to me that it wold be in a middle future therm but who knows.....maybe in two or tree years adoption will be massive and fusions will be necessary :)


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: orkoso on February 09, 2018, 10:28:46 PM
It has not happened yet that I know, and due to the way the blockchain technology is concieved, it is unlikely that it could happen. There are some projects such as Polkadot that will try to make communication among chains possible, and that would be similar to a merge.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: stompix on February 09, 2018, 10:34:08 PM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

A far better example is the EURO.
A new currency that replaced the mark, the frank, the lira and many others.

But I don't see it happening in the crypto world.
Because on of the coins would have to make a hardfork to change the protocol to match the other and the other another fork to absorb the blockchain.

Most likely it will end up with 3 coins instead of 2 (the original A and B and the fused AB)




Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: aardvark15 on February 09, 2018, 11:19:23 PM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

It’s hard to imagine how this can take place from a technical standpoint. What if one token has a larger circulating supply than the other? How would you reconcile the programming behind each of them. I’m not sure how all that would work behind the scenes.

I guess anything is possible but a more likely scenario is that one coin gets abandoned and the development team joins the development team of another coin to make it better. Or maybe a coins swap could be done with the abandoned coin.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: ezbreezy08 on February 09, 2018, 11:34:18 PM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

It’s hard to imagine how this can take place from a technical standpoint. What if one token has a larger circulating supply than the other? How would you reconcile the programming behind each of them. I’m not sure how all that would work behind the scenes.

I guess anything is possible but a more likely scenario is that one coin gets abandoned and the development team joins the development team of another coin to make it better. Or maybe a coins swap could be done with the abandoned coin.

Abandoned coin will revive again. The thing here is people wanted to merge in blockchain because the transparency is there and consider it that the mainstream media wants everything to be united as one but it takes time to do that. Cryptocurrency right now is an early stage and it won't hard for them to kill the vibes of crypto. There's a saying that if you can't beat them join them or embrace it!


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: aeternus on February 09, 2018, 11:56:51 PM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

A far better example is the EURO.
A new currency that replaced the mark, the frank, the lira and many others.

But I don't see it happening in the crypto world.
Because on of the coins would have to make a hardfork to change the protocol to match the other and the other another fork to absorb the blockchain.

Most likely it will end up with 3 coins instead of 2 (the original A and B and the fused AB)



That is an interesting idea, fusing two coins seems impossible but to create a new blockchain in top of the other two seems like an easier approach, however it seems unlikely, after all when two companies merge there are two CEO making the decisions, who is going to make the decision to fuse two coins, the developers, the miners or the user base.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: Arlibtchunt2018 on February 10, 2018, 01:21:57 AM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

It could be possible if the two parties would coordinate.  In the same time it would be necessary for them to fuse it.  But from the maintime many would think about it first.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: pentol86 on February 10, 2018, 01:31:57 AM
its possible, but they must unite their ideas, vision, or they can use third party to  do it.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: Dontme on February 10, 2018, 01:50:00 AM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?
That's possible if that some token(or let's just say One company) sells the product or the market to other token owner(or other company) then I think they make a big fusion but still the owner are make it as like it is in the name of his (token) its like even he buy that token and there is fusion but still the name of his token or company are still the one who conquer that.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: shinjunobi09 on February 10, 2018, 02:21:43 AM
This seems very possible if two or more ICO's developing the other crypto coins start merging or constituted a lawful partnership that would required their alternate coins to become as one with combining of their unique features that will bring a blast on the market trend of cryptocurrency in our world.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: alyssa85 on February 10, 2018, 02:34:35 AM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

It's unlikely because there is no way to fuse blockchains. You can do forks (creating two new chains) but as far as I know, you can't merge two chains into one.

you can create a new blockchain and swap coins to the new blockchain
...or just invent a new technology

How would two chains fork to a new chain? Both protocols change to the same? How would wallets deal with the historical chains? You would need a wallet that recognised coins sent on both the previous chains. In order words a wallet that recognised historical coins on two separate distributed ledgers.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: hastag_80 on February 10, 2018, 02:48:13 AM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

Fusion together of two coins in the future is impossible for me  because every coins and platform has different way of scheme,and different  contract address they introduce to the exchange  trading site's,and it can give's conflict to all investment traders.Fusion of two companies to make a bigger one altcoins that maybe happen if there's aggrement both the two companies and the blockchain make this kind of deal but for me the decision is so hazy,that they authorized this kind of coins fusion,because crytocurrency is  big different from local stock market bussiness.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: jtipt on February 10, 2018, 03:13:43 AM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

It's unlikely because there is no way to fuse blockchains. You can do forks (creating two new chains) but as far as I know, you can't merge two chains into one.

you can create a new blockchain and swap coins to the new blockchain
...or just invent a new technology
You want 2 chains to fork to a new single chain? Wouldn't it essentially mean creating a new coin?
From realistic perspective I don't think this would happen even if technically it's possible somehow. There are a lot other things to consider in this, every crypto has its unique features how will they turn out after the merging?


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: Digital Mutant on February 10, 2018, 08:30:32 AM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

It's unlikely because there is no way to fuse blockchains. You can do forks (creating two new chains) but as far as I know, you can't merge two chains into one.

you can create a new blockchain and swap coins to the new blockchain
...or just invent a new technology

How would two chains fork to a new chain? Both protocols change to the same? How would wallets deal with the historical chains? You would need a wallet that recognised coins sent on both the previous chains. In order words a wallet that recognised historical coins on two separate distributed ledgers.
technically is not so difficult, both chains can swap to a new one, if you establish a period of time in which the holders has to swap their coins to the new one it is not a problem.
The main problem is for holders that leave the coin in the wallet and forget about it, the solution could be leaving the swap option available during a larger period of time


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: Carlsen on February 10, 2018, 08:39:32 AM
I think that depends on the currency.
With bitcoin for example, I do not see that would work. It would be like creating new bitcoins intentionally, and that is a really bad idea.
Maybe it would be possible with some ICOs as kind of a marketing move. Creating a new coin that climbs up the ladder of market capitalization in order to get more attention.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: Digital Mutant on February 10, 2018, 08:47:21 AM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

It's unlikely because there is no way to fuse blockchains. You can do forks (creating two new chains) but as far as I know, you can't merge two chains into one.

you can create a new blockchain and swap coins to the new blockchain
...or just invent a new technology
You want 2 chains to fork to a new single chain? Wouldn't it essentially mean creating a new coin?
From realistic perspective I don't think this would happen even if technically it's possible somehow. There are a lot other things to consider in this, every crypto has its unique features how will they turn out after the merging?
yes it's true but if you improve with better features holders would be happy
you can swap out different amounts balancing the decimals if the to different coins have not the same value, this is the magic of cryptocurrencies, the decimals offer the possibility to divide the coin in ,000000000000000 :)


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: Digital Mutant on February 10, 2018, 08:52:38 AM
I think that depends on the currency.
With bitcoin for example, I do not see that would work. It would be like creating new bitcoins intentionally, and that is a really bad idea.
Maybe it would be possible with some ICOs as kind of a marketing move. Creating a new coin that climbs up the ladder of market capitalization in order to get more attention.
yes, for example.

of course with bitcoin and with most of the coins on the top of marketcap is quite impossible, but we don't know, the crypto ecosystem is changing so much that it is reshaping continuosly and in the future we don't know what can happen.

also if there's a rapid massive adoption maybe we will be forced to make everything more accessible for everyone


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: Ranly123 on February 10, 2018, 08:57:39 AM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

It would be possible if the two platforms compliment with each other and that they would share the same vision. Would probably another hype for cryptocurrency since it would help those project with less resource and merge with a much better platform to be able to stand the competition of cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: pugman on February 10, 2018, 09:04:02 AM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?
A merger between two or more cryptos would really be humongous  and overwhelming. It would obviously be for the betterment of both the coins into one,a lot of audience would be attracted to this,but finding a perfect match for both the cryptos is almost as impossible, cause we know how cryptos function and most of them are ERC20 tokens or built on waves platform or some lame ass motive(promoting a shitcoin to go to the moon and the like). Litecoin was developed only because they wanted faster transactions. We can go on and on about this but most of the cryptos,IMO are shit if it has to be used for a merger. They are only beneficial when it comes to trading or mining.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: stompix on February 10, 2018, 04:11:36 PM
I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?
A merger between two or more cryptos would really be humongous  and overwhelming. It would obviously be for the betterment of both the coins into one,a lot of audience would be attracted to this,but finding a perfect match for both the cryptos is almost as impossible, cause we know how cryptos function and most of them are ERC20 tokens or built on waves platform or some lame ass motive(promoting a shitcoin to go to the moon and the like). Litecoin was developed only because they wanted faster transactions. We can go on and on about this but most of the cryptos,IMO are shit if it has to be used for a merger. They are only beneficial when it comes to trading or mining.

Aren't tokens actually the ones easier to merge?
They share the same protocol, you could easily convert a tokens and b tokens to c tokens, abandoning the first two and create another useless token.

But I doubt it would be better for the bigger coins.
No matter how you look at it, from the perspective of one that holds one of the coin it means printing money.

I wander if in the near future some tokens or coins can fusion together...like for example in the stock markets or acquisitions, when big holdings buy other companies or when there's a fusion of 2 companies into a bigger one...

Do you think it is going to happen also in the crypto ecosystem?

It would be possible if the two platforms compliment with each other and that they would share the same vision. Would probably another hype for cryptocurrency since it would help those project with less resource and merge with a much better platform to be able to stand the competition of cryptocurrencies.

And why would a better coin share resources with a failed coin? It would drag it down also.
The most popular coin can just make a hardfork and copy all the feature of the other coin , without any merger.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: pugman on February 10, 2018, 04:30:44 PM
Aren't tokens actually the ones easier to merge?
They share the same protocol, you could easily convert a tokens and b tokens to c tokens, abandoning the first two and create another useless token.

But I doubt it would be better for the bigger coins.
No matter how you look at it, from the perspective of one that holds one of the coin it means printing money.
Most of the tokens are shit,inconsiderate of which platform they are built in. Merging would not help,maybe it would make things worse,just like how things work out in corporate. Two major companies screw up their whole reputation(if any) in the name of a merger.
And why would a better coin share resources with a failed coin? It would drag it down also.
The most popular coin can just make a hardfork and copy all the feature of the other coin , without any merger.
If we bring in corporate world into this, then from that point of view,major companies like taking over small companies,for two reasons: They have a new product to work towards,and their reputation grows as people see that this company did a "good thing" and bullshit. Now if major crypto-related companies do so,people would talk good about it,another reason for the coin to be pumped. So what is happening is goodwill of the reputed company makes people think nonsensical facts and this becomes a reason for them to "HODL". Sad reality check.


Title: Re: Do you think that crypto or token fusions are possible in the future?
Post by: September11Myth on February 28, 2018, 11:28:33 PM
I see it as quite difficult to merge different blockchains, but fusions could well be a mere financial one, and in this case this could be achieved perhaps with a next stage of the Bancor protocol, which already now is able to create pool of liquidity across different assets.