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Title: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: zerobir on February 13, 2018, 03:19:09 PM
NOTE: 18.02.2018 - Soon I will fix all the problems. Thank you for your understanding.

Hello everyone,

Today I present to you the project I have been working on for a long time. This project is a price calculator for Bitcointalk Forum Accounts.

Do not forget to write your suggestions and opinions about the project.

Website here: https://pricecalculator.win/

How to use:
    Enter Bitcointalk Forum Account ID or profile URL
    Select account trust type
    Click the Calculate Price button

NOTE: Calculated prices are estimates.

If you want to support the project:
    BTC: 1DBprZJMWMXaBLKJcLqhKqSSMxuWdcM6wc
    ETH: 0xFa01C9A50Bd2846dB1E7537c76E0CD51d075aE14

Special thanks to achow101 for Algorithm idea. (I made some changes on it.)


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: hugeblack on February 13, 2018, 04:52:32 PM
this is my evaluation:
Good Points:
1. Attractive design.
2. No Ads.
Bad points:
1. need to update /refresh the page after each search.
2. A unique algorithm for some accounts is not working "Satoshi, Administrator, Staff, DT members,.....etc".
3. Closed source "Can you share your source?", I think the value of the accounts rose after the merit system.
4. Modify the value of the account based on merit points.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: Mi5h0 on February 13, 2018, 05:01:54 PM
Seems a very nice project and full of good potential. There is some rendering problems when the calculator results are opened.
But this may be just in my browser. I'm sure you'll improve it a little further.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: zerobir on February 13, 2018, 08:58:57 PM
this is my evaluation:
Good Points:
1. Attractive design.
2. No Ads.
Bad points:
1. need to update /refresh the page after each search.
2. A unique algorithm for some accounts is not working "Satoshi, Administrator, Staff, DT members,.....etc".
3. Closed source "Can you share your source?", I think the value of the accounts rose after the merit system.
4. Modify the value of the account based on merit points.

Thank you for your evaluation and suggestions.

1. FIXED
2. I tested it, but it works.
3. The project is currently in beta. It could happen in the future.
4. I made changes on the algorithm. I work to make it better.

Seems a very nice project and full of good potential. There is some rendering problems when the calculator results are opened.
But this may be just in my browser. I'm sure you'll improve it a little further.


Thank you for your evaluation. Can you give me more information about the problem?


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: truimpheriues on February 13, 2018, 09:12:08 PM
youre site very long time in load page
is good can create same bitcointalkestimator price include post statistic

iam try input my ID several time not load


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: zerobir on February 13, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
youre site very long time in load page
is good can create same bitcointalkestimator price include post statistic

iam try input my ID several time not load

Hello,

The page loading speed is fast. The higher the message count, the longer the calculation time.

Your account info:

Code:
User Id: 885969
Username: truimpheriues
Posts: 1430
Good Post: 977
Activity: 574 (Hero Member)
Merit: 500
SMAS Blacklisted: No
Trust: Neutral
Calculated Price: 0.1074


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: cryptodv on February 14, 2018, 04:00:11 AM
I tried it out, it says my "RANK IS NOT ENOUGH". Don't know what that means, I'm a Hero Member.  ;D


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: SFR10 on February 14, 2018, 04:26:45 AM
I tried it out, it says my "RANK IS NOT ENOUGH". Don't know what that means, I'm a Hero Member.  ;D
Wasn't able to replicate that error, using your UID. I got this (regarding your account):
Quote
User Id: 816073
Username: cryptodv
Posts: 1974
Good Post: 695
Activity: 686 (Hero Member)
Merit: 500
SMAS Blacklisted: No
Trust: Neutral
Calculated Price: 0.1186

Do not forget to write your suggestions and opinions about the project.
Since you made some changes to the original algorithm that achow101 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290195) had, may I know how "Good Post" category is being measured? If it's based on certain character count, then the results are irrelevant.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: sjyi on February 14, 2018, 04:36:15 AM
Looks like you're expecting the user to select the account type, but the fa-spinner makes it look like the program is figuring it out.  You should change that so that people know to select the type.

It takes too long to calculate.  Try different value for setInterval?


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: AfterTheFork on February 14, 2018, 05:08:27 AM


The speed is the key strength, but it doesn't offer more than that which i think is not enough. could you explain what 'your rank is not enough means?'
what else to you use to calculate the value of an account


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: ncsupanda on February 14, 2018, 05:17:36 AM
Maybe provide some estimation as to how long your calculation will take.
If there are 10 pages of comments to go through and it takes 10 seconds per comment, then provide the user with the feedback "hey this is going to take roughly 100 seconds".

Also, the text doesn't line up quite right after it calculates - for some reason it still shows waiting even after finishing. I tested with "Light Green" trust.

https://i.imgur.com/SPP9dUc.png



Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: Vazil on February 14, 2018, 10:33:01 AM
Hello everyone,

Today I present to you the project I have been working on for a long time. This project is a price calculator for Bitcointalk Forum Accounts.

Do not forget to write your suggestions and opinions about the project.

Website here: https://pricecalculator.win/

How to use:
    Enter Bitcointalk Forum Account ID or profile URL
    Select account trust type
    Click the Calculate Price button

NOTE: Calculated prices are estimates.

If you want to support the project:
    BTC: 1DBprZJMWMXaBLKJcLqhKqSSMxuWdcM6wc
    ETH: 0xFa01C9A50Bd2846dB1E7537c76E0CD51d075aE14

Special thanks to achow101 for Algorithm idea. (I made some changes on it.)



Nice idea! but you should add the helper (for example I don't know where is my account ID located) of course I can find out it by myself but ...


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: Lovecove on February 14, 2018, 11:32:51 AM
It's good to know the speculative price an account would sell for, yes. I suppose there are dire circumstances of which people would be desperate enough to sell their longstanding accounts.

But in general, i'm surprised no one is against this or has voiced this sentiment on this thread.

I mean, why would anyone want to sell their bitcointalk account? Anyone who can access bitcointalk, can also make an account. So everyone should use their own account? This is elementary logic. If you want an account, go make one.

Selling a bitcointalk account to someone means they're going to use it for something they can get away with. Why else would they want to buy one.

That said, I suppose bitcointalk accounts can be seen as investments that grow by the year. It only makes sense because it's based on bitcoin, which also grows by the year.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 14, 2018, 11:42:39 AM
Is this normal? Loading/Calculating time is very long I'm waiting for almost 10 mins it doesn't appear any single information. I do have fast internet and I'm using chrome browser.


http://i68.tinypic.com/23hke8m.png



Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: TheQuin on February 14, 2018, 11:51:16 AM
I'm assuming this was based on achow101's original code. The most useful part of that, which you have left out, was the breakdown of posts by activity period and board. Particularly now that the user stats have been disabled on the forum itself.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: elisabetheva on February 14, 2018, 01:08:03 PM

I've tried it, it's helpful to know about btt account,
very appreciate on this, hopefully can be useful for the needy and there may be other innovations.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: icol333 on February 14, 2018, 01:37:17 PM
Took long enough to load (not sure if it's because of the post counts), simple looking UI but really fun to do :D
I think if the UI is upgraded and added more info in it, I bet it would be really amazing. Good luck with you :)


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: Elseye on February 14, 2018, 03:08:57 PM
Hello everyone,

Today I present to you the project I have been working on for a long time. This project is a price calculator for Bitcointalk Forum Accounts.

Do not forget to write your suggestions and opinions about the project.

Website here: https://pricecalculator.win/

How to use:
    Enter Bitcointalk Forum Account ID or profile URL
    Select account trust type
    Click the Calculate Price button

NOTE: Calculated prices are estimates.

If you want to support the project:
    BTC: 1DBprZJMWMXaBLKJcLqhKqSSMxuWdcM6wc
    ETH: 0xFa01C9A50Bd2846dB1E7537c76E0CD51d075aE14

Special thanks to achow101 for Algorithm idea. (I made some changes on it.)

I really liked your site - works perfect for me; even refreshing the page to calculate the price again doesn't bother me at all. Design is really nice-looking; However, I think that it would be nice prices were shown like BTC\ETH\$ - that would be just awesome.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: peter0425 on February 14, 2018, 03:45:14 PM


The speed is the key strength, but it doesn't offer more than that which i think is not enough. could you explain what 'your rank is not enough means?'
what else to you use to calculate the value of an account

This is what I experiencing as well. And at the initial load, I noticed that the spinner is already active. It much give the impression that it is loading at the very onset. And after the data is loaded, it continues to spin.

I really wanted to know as well what's your algorithm for computing or calculating the price?

Do you guys think that account seller here will take advantage of this software? We all know that we frown account seller / buyer. Just sayin.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: audaciousbeing on February 14, 2018, 05:00:11 PM
I think I should appreciate the amount of effort you put there in other to come up with something after the last one ended. But I actually have two reservations.

1. The basis for the arrival of the price of each account because the value arrived up there is .1186 for Hero account while Legendary account for .223 which is close to a thousand dollars and more than $1500 respectively. Who exactly do you expect to buy account at amount and even you yourself can you?

2. It is generally something on the forum that buying and selling of account is seriously frown at even though its still not outlawed but the era for which its useful has passed while the exact objective for having that in place has been outlived essentially. Now you created a model to value the price of account, are you contributing to the progress of the forum or dragging it backwards considering the amount of disadvantages this has generated that outweigh the whatever benefit this could bring.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: Rascar Capac on February 14, 2018, 08:05:02 PM
How do you determine the price of an account? You have to detail the importance of each parameter (activity, rank, merit, merit, trust etc...) Unless you are based solely on the activity and at that moment, it's not interesting!


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: OriginTrain on February 15, 2018, 07:59:19 AM
Bad news for the forum honestly, and I hope your calculator also gets ddosed like the other one. Many real people get scammed and driven to depression by loss of money they can't afford to lose due to being scammed by bought accounts. Consider that.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: shulio on February 15, 2018, 10:20:35 AM
How much time does it take to get the estimated price information? I waited 5 minutes but can not get the price info. Probably, your site bot get caught by bitcointalk ddos prevention service.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: stomachgrowls on February 15, 2018, 01:24:19 PM
Is this normal? Loading/Calculating time is very long I'm waiting for almost 10 mins it doesn't appear any single information. I do have fast internet and I'm using chrome browser.


http://i68.tinypic.com/23hke8m.png


Same situation do also happening on me where loading time took so long even the UI is just lite.

How much time does it take to get the estimated price information? I waited 5 minutes but can not get the price info. Probably, your site bot get caught by bitcointalk ddos prevention service.
We dont know if hashflare service do have really the involvement on here regarding on getting accounts information in the site. Crawling might still possible since information posted are accurate but im not really sure on the price of each account.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: ncsupanda on February 15, 2018, 03:10:43 PM
We want to implement bitcoin as a payment method in our online shop.
Would that be possible?
Which currency do you recommend?
Can currency conversions be made in different currencies?
Thank you in advance ;)

Hi,

I would be glad to find out more details, we completed similar task recently and currently working on the cryptocurrecy wallet (several currencies).
Please share more details under PMB.

Happy to chat
Jen Zorina  
Webcase


You ended up in the wrong thread :) Make sure you are in the right section before posting, preview can be your friend!


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: johniadeluca on February 15, 2018, 03:12:37 PM
This is really cool. This could even turn out to be a bigger and full fledged project if you wanted it to be haha


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 15, 2018, 05:08:17 PM
Is this normal? Loading/Calculating time is very long I'm waiting for almost 10 mins it doesn't appear any single information. I do have fast internet and I'm using chrome browser.


http://i68.tinypic.com/23hke8m.png


Same situation do also happening on me where loading time took so long even the UI is just lite.

How much time does it take to get the estimated price information? I waited 5 minutes but can not get the price info. Probably, your site bot get caught by bitcointalk ddos prevention service.
We dont know if hashflare service do have really the involvement on here regarding on getting accounts information in the site. Crawling might still possible since information posted are accurate but im not really sure on the price of each account.
Update about this price calculator.When I do first tried out this estimator loading time is about 5 mins and I tried out on next browser (Internet Explorer) which it becomes more longer I don't know whats the matter.I have tried to access it on Mozilla then it loads up for about 3 mins. They do have difference on loading times on each browser that I do tested.I have no idea why do have this kind of loading times for me yet I do have a stable internet connection and a fast pc.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: onyebuchi81 on February 15, 2018, 07:37:24 PM
When I put my bttalk ID the response I got was rank not enough  but when I replaced it with my profile URL it worked. Loading time was about 20 seconds using a mobile chrome browser. So either u work on the bttalk id algo or remove it from the interface altogether.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: digaran on February 15, 2018, 10:19:58 PM
Please calculate a lowlife beggar preferably virgin and most importantly a reputable merit source with only 5 sMerits every 30 days (don't expect theymos to give me more, even though everybody knows that I am a source and merit stats are published for the public review, thus me having 5 or 5000 sMerits wont allow me to abuse them even if I'd wanted to). make sure to change your algorithm to estimate somewhat around 0.9BTC up to 1.5BTC.

(what was that? I shouldn't sell my forum account specially now that it has a merit source status? lols, not a long time ago I was willing to sell my own 80 Million of terrorist people to the good guys in CIA). lol.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: DarkStar_ on February 17, 2018, 04:36:14 PM
I'm assuming this was based on achow101's original code. The most useful part of that, which you have left out, was the breakdown of posts by activity period and board. Particularly now that the user stats have been disabled on the forum itself.


I'd say the list of addresses the user posted was also very useful. Great for trying to find alt connections or helping people who got their account locked and need to sign a message.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: posi on February 17, 2018, 04:56:17 PM
You did a very nice job OP and if we have more people like you this forum will be off the chain. However, you need to improve the users information which the site provide.

I'm giving you merit for a job well done though :)


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: LoyceV on February 17, 2018, 06:36:42 PM
I'd say the list of addresses the user posted was also very useful. Great for trying to find alt connections or helping people who got their account locked and need to sign a message.
I recently scripted something to find all addresses posted by a user. Something like this:
Code:
#!/bin/bash
mkdir /tmp/addy; cd /tmp/addy
i=0; while test $i -le 3440; do wget "https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=507936;sa=showPosts;start=$i" -O $i.html; i=$((i+20)); sleep 1; done
grep -o -w '\w\{26,35\}' *.html
This was just a quick fix to get a few addys posted by someone. It shows all "words" from 26 to 35 characters long, so not only addys, and doesn't exclude quotes. For your history, it gives a very long list of addresses you've quoted.
I could fix this too, but I would prefer a site that does this for me, just like http://bctalkaccountpricer.info/ used to do.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on February 18, 2018, 07:44:52 PM
Been thinking that I'd be the one to do it someday but congrats lol

My Feedback
Like someone said,

The most useful part of that, which you have left out, was the breakdown of posts by activity period and board. Particularly now that the user stats have been disabled on the forum itself.
This and the listing out addresses posted by the account which I used to find very helpful in linking alternate accounts.

How accurate are your SMAS results ? This is a well done feature.
Not a must but it would be better if you could add some responsiveness to the website for the mobile view-ports.


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: btvt7094 on July 19, 2018, 09:19:56 PM
Very nice project. While the price confused me. What's the unit of the price? is that BTC or ETH?


Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: Strufmbae on August 12, 2018, 03:31:52 PM
This guy will possibly buy an account,  a caught fish.
 
Are there any websites where bitcointalk accounts are listed? Where do they purchase accounts normally?


~~

I was specifically looking for a voice in comment from page 1-2 and only this post makes me think that selling accounts is not prohibited but you will probably get a red tag from DT members,  because most of the bought accounts are used for scamming (not all)  IMO.



Title: Re: New Bitcointalk Account price calculator
Post by: TheQuin on August 12, 2018, 03:36:34 PM
I was specifically looking for a voice in comment from page 1-2 and only this post makes me think that selling accounts is not prohibited but you will probably get a red tag from DT members,  because most of the bought accounts are used for scamming (not all)  IMO.

And most of the account sellers are scammers that don't have accounts to sell. You'll pay and then they will disappear.