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Title: SELLING BTC FOR $1,000 GDMP Post by: Jenger on September 16, 2013, 03:13:58 AM Id like to sell $1,000 worth of BTC for GDMP. Buyer sets up escrow.
Title: Re: SELLING BTC FOR $1,000 GDMP Post by: camolist on September 16, 2013, 03:24:17 AM i'm available till usually 7 or 8 pm (eastern US) for money paks i don't -need- (anymore) btc so my rates are usually based off of coinbase's sale rate which at this moment is 125.05 per btc minus 15 cents per order and minus 1% of the total - i'll then subtract $10 from that total (4.95 to moneypak remainder to myself) - i buy with cash and can provide pre/post scratch off images with receipt if needed you may get a better rate from someone who wants the btc not just selling it but it's an offer none the less would subtract $20 - 9.90 to moneypak remainder to me no escrow. could do it two smaller 500 deals if that makes you feel easier. i don't like the idea of escrow where you say "it didn't work" how would i prove you were not the one to clear out a given moneypak code? i have done many paypal and moneypak deals in the past with no issues Title: Re: SELLING BTC FOR $1,000 GDMP Post by: sublime5447 on September 16, 2013, 07:22:13 PM i'm available till usually 7 or 8 pm (eastern US) for money paks i don't -need- (anymore) btc so my rates are usually based off of coinbase's sale rate which at this moment is 125.05 per btc minus 15 cents per order and minus 1% of the total - i'll then subtract $10 from that total (4.95 to moneypak remainder to myself) - i buy with cash and can provide pre/post scratch off images with receipt if needed you may get a better rate from someone who wants the btc not just selling it but it's an offer none the less would subtract $20 - 9.90 to moneypak remainder to me no escrow. could do it two smaller 500 deals if that makes you feel easier. i don't like the idea of escrow where you say "it didn't work" how would i prove you were not the one to clear out a given moneypak code? i have done many paypal and moneypak deals in the past with no issues The escrow checks the code before it is delivered. Title: Re: SELLING BTC FOR $1,000 GDMP Post by: camolist on September 16, 2013, 10:46:56 PM The escrow checks the code before it is delivered. if there is indeed a way to check and not claim i would be willing to do it still the question THEN would be how to still prove that the buyer claimed the code and not myself if they claimed i pulled the code first escrow just always worries. "box of rocks" problem buyer says they got a box of rocks i have a shipping label and say i sent $5,000 in electronics. who is right? Title: Re: SELLING BTC FOR $1,000 GDMP Post by: MsBitcoin on September 17, 2013, 12:58:40 AM I am interested. PM me.
Title: Re: SELLING BTC FOR $1,000 GDMP Post by: DannyHamilton on September 17, 2013, 12:22:04 PM - snip - escrow just always worries. "box of rocks" problem buyer says they got a box of rocks i have a shipping label and say i sent $5,000 in electronics. who is right? Generally the escrow provider doesn't guarantee that everyone will live up to their side of the deal. The best that is typically offered is fair and reasonable arbitration in the event of a disagreement. This is still significantly better than you'd get without the escrow. In the example you offer: The seller of the electronics can make a video recording of the packing, sealing, and labeling of the shipment. The receiver of the "box of rocks" can make a video recording of the opening of the received package. Neither of these recordings can prove for certain that a party is scamming, but they do make it a bit more difficult. For a higher cost, you can send your electronics directly to the escrow provider. The escrow provider can then verify contents before forwarding the shipment to the intended recipient and releasing the bitcoins to the electronics seller. It is up to the parties involved in the transaction to lay out the rules regarding release of escrow. The escrow provider simply follows the predetermined rules, and facilitates arbitration in the even of a disagreement. Note that providing video proof that you shipped electronics, and then actually shipping a "box of rocks" *might* be mail fraud. This could potentially result in the receiver getting law enforcement authorities involved, adding additional disincentive to shiping something other than the intended merchandise. The escrow checks the code before it is delivered. if there is indeed a way to check and not claim i would be willing to do it There is, and this provides some protection for the bitcoin provider. However. this isn't the best way to handle it since there is still a race opportunity for the MoneyPak provider to claim the funds AFTER the escrow provider has verified the balance. still the question THEN would be how to still prove that the buyer claimed the code and not myself if they claimed i pulled the code first The safest way to handle it (assuming that the escrow provider is trustworthy) is for the provider of the bitcoins to also provide to the escrow holder the necessary information to load the MoneyPak into their account. Then when the MoneyPak provider supplies the code, the escrow provider claims the MoneyPak into the bitcoin provider's account for them. This way the escrow provider can know for certain that the code is good, and that the MoneyPak provider can no longer claim the money. Title: Re: SELLING BTC FOR $1,000 GDMP Post by: Jenger on September 17, 2013, 06:12:30 PM Sorry guys, unfortunately I was hacked and lost 10BTC >:(
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=295308.0 Title: Re: SELLING BTC FOR $1,000 GDMP Post by: sublime5447 on September 17, 2013, 06:43:57 PM This sucks.. Sorry. Despite what others are saying in the thread it is not your fault.
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