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Title: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: russianbusinessman3 on September 16, 2013, 04:06:07 AM
Hello,
         I would like to start this post off by stating that I know newbies trying to borrow btc is generally frowned upon and with good reason. I fully understand that but would like to state that I would be putting up as much collateral as I have as I dont expect anyone to trust that I have the full intention of paying this loan back on my payday. First of all I would like to borrow 2 btc with a payback date of Friday the 27th of September, so basically not this friday coming up but the next one after that. I would pay back 2.5btc so a full 25% more then I borrow. I will have no problem paying this loan back as it will be my payday. The reason I need the btc asap instead of next Friday is because I need to purchase something that will no longer be available by next Friday.
        I would be willing to put up whatever is suggested as collateral as well as copies of my license, utility bill, bank statements and whatever else is requested to as proof of income, identity,  and address. If anyone has any ideas about the collateral I can put up please let me know. Unfortunately,  I cant think of too many things I can transfer over through the internet besides maybe netflix account, local btc account (account in good standing and 5 successful trades with all positive reviews). I also have a paypal account in good standing and an ebay account with about a +20 score. I would be willing to transfer all of this until the loan is repayed and obviously would be ok with the lender changing the passwords. I can also provide my fasfa account (financial aid, which im getting as well but has nothing to do with paying back the loan). As I said if anyone has any other ideas im all ears. I would even be willing to provide my SunTrust banking info for transparency.
        I hope someone can feel that I honestly have no doubt that I will pay this loan back in full on Friday. As far as why im offering such a big return is because I honestly feel that whoever does this for me would be doing me a huge favor and deserves the reward since they are taking a chance seeing as how im fairly new to this forum. I think that .5btc extra is a very fair amount for such a huge favor and I would be happy to pay it. If anyone is interested in taking this loan please let me know.  Thanks alot.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: AndrewWilliams on September 16, 2013, 05:03:11 AM
Who can go wrong trusting a Russian businessman?


Hell, I'll give you 4 BTC cause you're such a great guy.

 ;D


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: sasuke234 on September 16, 2013, 06:24:11 AM
Sounds legit to me


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: Anon135246 on September 16, 2013, 06:47:58 AM
You won't get a loan as a noob, so don't even try :)


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: gripflierGO on September 16, 2013, 08:05:53 AM
Hey there is lending section:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=65.0

Good luck  ;)


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: Mitchell on September 16, 2013, 08:09:29 AM
Lol. I saw a post exactly like this one a few days ago. Also from a noob. Bad scam is bad.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: saif313 on September 16, 2013, 09:52:41 AM
as you entered in Lending then they will do post martyam of you and then give you red label and you will be out of here  ;D ;D


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: russianbusinessman3 on September 16, 2013, 04:49:40 PM
As I'm a noob at this so maybe someone can help, how is this a scam attempt, if im offering any kind of collateral you guys suggest even if it means mailing something and handing over all the proof for my identity?


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: zeta1 on September 16, 2013, 04:50:48 PM
Who can go wrong trusting a Russian businessman?


Hell, I'll give you 4 BTC cause you're such a great guy.

 ;D

LOL:P


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: AndrewWilliams on September 16, 2013, 05:35:47 PM
As I'm a noob at this so maybe someone can help, how is this a scam attempt, if im offering any kind of collateral you guys suggest even if it means mailing something and handing over all the proof for my identity?


There is a difference between verifying your identity and actual collateral.

Collateral means offering up something physical or virtual that has value, as a promise you will repay your loan, and making it so we can actually collect incase you default. A trusted third party is usually used.

Watcha got?  :)


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: russianbusinessman3 on September 16, 2013, 08:47:43 PM
I have a sony vaio laptop I can use as collateral. .v series..easily worth over $500 used.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: greyhawk on September 16, 2013, 09:17:34 PM
I have a sony vaio laptop I can use as collateral. .v series..easily worth over $500 used.

There is no Sony Vaio V series.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: Welsh on September 16, 2013, 09:20:17 PM
I have a sony vaio laptop I can use as collateral. .v series..easily worth over $500 used.

There is no Sony Vaio V series.


Ouch. Good catch. I read it as Z for some odd reason. My brain filled in a gap. Beware of OP


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: Puppet on September 16, 2013, 09:27:43 PM
There is no Sony Vaio V series.

V for Virtual :)


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: Baitty on September 16, 2013, 09:36:55 PM
I think I saw a two other posts similar to this. I may be mistaken


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: greyhawk on September 16, 2013, 09:41:49 PM
I think I saw a two other posts similar to this. I may be mistaken

Were they by russianbusinessman1 and russianbusinessman2?


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: AndrewWilliams on September 16, 2013, 09:51:30 PM
http://www.spiritual-happiness.com/suze-denied.jpg




Easiest denial I've given today.  :D


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: russianbusinessman3 on September 17, 2013, 10:28:00 PM
Im sorry I meant s series. Its the one with the real big screen. I would be happy to either send it to the lender or to an escrow...in which case I dont see where the big "scam" is that everyone is talking about. I think some people on here are a little bit too paranoid,  which I blame on all the real "scammers" out there. Honestly I dont see where the big risk is in taking this loan seeing as we are not talking about a whole lot of money and im willing to provide collateral as well as copies of my id, utility bill, bank statements,  pay check stubs and whatever else is needed. If I was trying to scam someone I would find a much easier and more cost effective way to do it then sending a laptop worth about twice as much as the loan as well as all my documents.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: Baitty on September 17, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
Im sorry I meant s series. Its the one with the real big screen. I would be happy to either send it to the lender or to an escrow...in which case I dont see where the big "scam" is that everyone is talking about. I think some people on here are a little bit too paranoid,  which I blame on all the real "scammers" out there. Honestly I dont see where the big risk is in taking this loan seeing as we are not talking about a whole lot of money and im willing to provide collateral as well as copies of my id, utility bill, bank statements,  pay check stubs and whatever else is needed. If I was trying to scam someone I would find a much easier and more cost effective way to do it then sending a laptop worth about twice as much as the loan as well as all my documents.

ok. Would you be willing to send to the escrow (John k for example). Also pay for shipping expenses etc, or would you require a little extra on the loan?


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: Welsh on September 17, 2013, 10:32:40 PM
Im sorry I meant s series. Its the one with the real big screen. I would be happy to either send it to the lender or to an escrow...in which case I dont see where the big "scam" is that everyone is talking about. I think some people on here are a little bit too paranoid,  which I blame on all the real "scammers" out there. Honestly I dont see where the big risk is in taking this loan seeing as we are not talking about a whole lot of money and im willing to provide collateral as well as copies of my id, utility bill, bank statements,  pay check stubs and whatever else is needed. If I was trying to scam someone I would find a much easier and more cost effective way to do it then sending a laptop worth about twice as much as the loan as well as all my documents.


I personally think people have a right to be paranoid and ask questions. Otherwise with the information you did provide first off all we wouldn't have any answers. Before taking a loan from anywhere, let it be a bank or online. You will be asked these sort of questions. It's not as easy as asking and receiving.


It's nice to hear you are willing to send the laptop. But, as Baitty pointed out, that would cost extra for shipping fees. This means the shipping to and from the person.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: thetran209 on September 17, 2013, 10:37:09 PM
Is this some sort of troll attempt? If not, PM the documents you have for proof.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: Baitty on September 17, 2013, 10:42:30 PM
I think I saw a two other posts similar to this. I may be mistaken

Were they by russianbusinessman1 and russianbusinessman2?


Lol, it may of been. I thought I would of remembered that if that was the case though.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: AndrewWilliams on September 17, 2013, 10:56:24 PM

Check your PM.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: russianbusinessman3 on September 17, 2013, 10:59:37 PM
Yes I would be willing to send to escrow and cover shipping. But I just thought of something even better, I just remebered I have 50,000 delta skymiles which I just checked is enough for 2 roundtrip tickets from orlando, fl to NYC. I think in order to make the collateral equal to the loan, I will ask for 2btc and 2.5 paid back with the delta skymiles transfered over as collateral.  I think the the 50,000 miles easily outweigh the value of 2btc. I think this would be alot easier to transfer vs a laptop.  I honestly have to intention of losing my sky miles so please just be rest assured that it will be used exactly what its meant for: collateral till I pay back 2.5 btc in less then 2 weeks. Please let me know if this is acceptable to anyone and if anyone will help me out with this loan. I hope to build my reputation with this loan so if I ever need one in the future I wont have all these issues of trust. Thanks in advance to the person who is willing to help me out. And also bear in mind that I would still be providing copies of my DL, power bill and anything else needed for id purposes.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: AndrewWilliams on September 17, 2013, 11:10:07 PM
Yes I would be willing to send to escrow and cover shipping. But I just thought of something even better, I just remebered I have 50,000 delta skymiles which I just checked is enough for 2 roundtrip tickets from orlando, fl to NYC. I think in order to make the collateral equal to the loan, I will ask for 2btc and 2.5 paid back with the delta skymiles transfered over as collateral.  I think the the 50,000 miles easily outweigh the value of 2btc. I think this would be alot easier to transfer vs a laptop.  I honestly have to intention of losing my sky miles so please just be rest assured that it will be used exactly what its meant for: collateral till I pay back 2.5 btc in less then 2 weeks. Please let me know if this is acceptable to anyone and if anyone will help me out with this loan. I hope to build my reputation with this loan so if I ever need one in the future I wont have all these issues of trust. Thanks in advance to the person who is willing to help me out. And also bear in mind that I would still be providing copies of my DL, power bill and anything else needed for id purposes.


OK. Check your messages.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: Welsh on September 17, 2013, 11:18:35 PM
Yes I would be willing to send to escrow and cover shipping. But I just thought of something even better, I just remebered I have 50,000 delta skymiles which I just checked is enough for 2 roundtrip tickets from orlando, fl to NYC. I think in order to make the collateral equal to the loan, I will ask for 2btc and 2.5 paid back with the delta skymiles transfered over as collateral.  I think the the 50,000 miles easily outweigh the value of 2btc. I think this would be alot easier to transfer vs a laptop.  I honestly have to intention of losing my sky miles so please just be rest assured that it will be used exactly what its meant for: collateral till I pay back 2.5 btc in less then 2 weeks. Please let me know if this is acceptable to anyone and if anyone will help me out with this loan. I hope to build my reputation with this loan so if I ever need one in the future I wont have all these issues of trust. Thanks in advance to the person who is willing to help me out. And also bear in mind that I would still be providing copies of my DL, power bill and anything else needed for id purposes.

That would be easier to transfer. I'm sure you would not want to risk your air miles. For the people in talks with loaning this guy the money, please let us know how it went.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: russianbusinessman3 on September 18, 2013, 12:55:15 AM
Transfered 45,340 skymiles to andrew
Waiting for delivery of: 2btc
Pay back: 3btc
On: 09/27/13


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: nahtnam on September 18, 2013, 04:50:40 AM
Maybe when you are a full member you won't have to go through this much trouble...


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: russianbusinessman3 on September 19, 2013, 02:47:58 AM
Still waiting for the btc to show up. Andrew has assured me that they would show up within 24 hours of me sending the miles. That should be in a few hours.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: AndrewWilliams on September 19, 2013, 02:53:59 AM
Sent.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: russianbusinessman3 on September 19, 2013, 04:09:11 PM
Still waiting....


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: AndrewWilliams on September 19, 2013, 10:06:09 PM
https://blockchain.info/address/1JnLAAQQmdxbAQmRxNBd2V36A6qe3hEKcb


Transactions

No. Transactions    1    
Total Received    2 BTC    
Final Balance    2 BTC

Due in 15 days: 3 BTC Due October 4th, 2013


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: russianbusinessman3 on September 20, 2013, 01:28:19 AM
Yes sir just confirmed....thank you very much.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: nahtnam on September 20, 2013, 01:35:45 AM
https://blockchain.info/address/1JnLAAQQmdxbAQmRxNBd2V36A6qe3hEKcb


Transactions

No. Transactions    1    
Total Received    2 BTC    
Final Balance    2 BTC

Due in 15 days: 3 BTC Due October 4th, 2013

Hope everything goes as planned! If it does, im sure you will get some GOOD trust ;)


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: sasuke234 on September 20, 2013, 03:22:52 AM
http://www.spiritual-happiness.com/suze-denied.jpg




Easiest denial I've given today.  :D

lol, I love suze!


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: nahtnam on September 20, 2013, 03:24:13 AM

Yep, whenever I go to a hotel, and have nothing to do, I watch her show. Love it when she says Denied... I have only seen her approve once...


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: sasuke234 on September 20, 2013, 03:27:07 AM

Yep, whenever I go to a hotel, and have nothing to do, I watch her show. Love it when she says Denied... I have only seen her approve once...

hahah, seriously. I've even seen her denied kids...


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: nahtnam on September 20, 2013, 03:28:59 AM

Yep, whenever I go to a hotel, and have nothing to do, I watch her show. Love it when she says Denied... I have only seen her approve once...

hahah, seriously. I've even seen her denied kids...

Yep. I remember seeing her deny a girl buying a PS3 for her boyfriend!


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: sasuke234 on September 20, 2013, 03:31:55 AM
^ hahah, that is too funny.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: nahtnam on September 20, 2013, 03:40:49 AM
^ hahah, that is too funny.

Apparently Mark Zuckerberg (CEO of Facebook) came on the show and asked if he could buy Twitter... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu7umNstcx4


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: AndrewWilliams on October 07, 2013, 05:53:05 PM
Awaiting repayment.


Will give borrower additional 48 hours due to the forum being down.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: bardi.harborow on October 07, 2013, 09:20:47 PM
Try somewhere like btcjam.com, they are a p2p lending service that verifies your identity. People can invest small amounts ($2) to diversify. Post with a high enough interest rate and that should do it.


Title: Re: would like to fairly borrow
Post by: AndrewWilliams on October 07, 2013, 09:24:29 PM
Try somewhere like btcjam.com, they are a p2p lending service that verifies your identity. People can invest small amounts ($2) to diversify. Post with a high enough interest rate and that should do it.

Loan was already made.

I am awaiting repayment.