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Title: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: HorseRider on September 16, 2013, 09:11:32 AM
KNC号称28nm的技术,效率水平还不如bitfury的55nm工艺,现在从研发进度推测,跳票是在所难免。

KNC采用的封装工艺,是非常先进的工艺,难度非常大,执行进度会非常慢,拿到芯片后,还有经过很长一段时间才能出货,参考蝴蝶出货的速度就知道了。不限于KNC,几乎所有28nm工艺、数百G单芯片的矿机,都会面临这个问题。到时候芯片测试通过、矿机出不来,大家就准备好欣赏二泉映月吧——水中的月亮,看得到,捞不起来!

我知道国内很多day 1的KNC大户都已经退货了。退货之前,在一些大户群里面嚷嚷了很久,根本就没有人买!大户也比较有良心,没有强行推销,自己就去退了。这些人从一开始就长期关注KNC,最知道KNC的底细和前途如何。


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: kmtan on September 16, 2013, 10:22:13 AM
版主这贴算是给小白指出了明路。。

我看了这一期的广告招标,knc也参与了报价也想拿下广告位呢


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: polarhei on September 16, 2013, 10:37:51 AM
任何人看情況, 據KNC代表指出, 晶片已經從台灣運回歐洲. 從開始到最後. 如果跳票的話, 與他們無關, 只與生產商有關. 因為生產商是ORSOC.


若有懷疑, 採蘭特幣吧.


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: yuchuanzhen on September 16, 2013, 12:19:18 PM
KNC最近在拍广告位。而且是一次次竞拍。
自己产品的消息却什么都没有。。


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: neteasy on September 16, 2013, 04:44:26 PM
28nm的技术风起云涌~  只等年底见分晓了~


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: sunrise on September 17, 2013, 01:14:53 AM
十月出矿机!


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: innovation on September 17, 2013, 10:33:31 AM
今天的消息。自己判断真假。
All,
 
You have all been waiting for an update on our chips and we can today announce that the Fabrication process has finished and the wafers are on their way to the packing assembly house right now. They will be in the assembly house for a few days before they make their way to us in Sweden  and of course via the fastest method possible.
 While it’s going to be a tight and we always knew it was. Time to market is everything in this business after all. We have also broken a few speed records in this business to bring a design to market in the fastest time possible.  But we are still on track to have Jupiter/Saturn shipping this month.
 We will update this news site as often as we can with news. We will even have some videos this week from our Swedish assembly factory as some of our smaller parts begin to be assembled ready for full production the minute the chips arrive.
 We would also like to take this opportunity to say that while we have remained as silent as possible on our simulations and only promised figures that we know we can meet. we will not down clock our chips to 400 we will release all our machines with the greatest hashing power we can. So yes the rumors are true Jupiter will be greater than 400 by a significant margin as a free gift from us to all our loyal customers. The first chips off of the production line we will run at full speed in our launch video so you can all see exactly how fast we can make Jupiter run.
 
Thanks
KnCMiner Team


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: ggg666 on September 17, 2013, 11:20:13 AM
大限将至。


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: servicelabs on September 17, 2013, 12:22:47 PM
很快就会有好戏看了!


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: bity on September 17, 2013, 02:43:03 PM
水很深啊,没有一定的技术水平,不要趟水啊。


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: luo01 on September 18, 2013, 02:31:26 AM
KNC号称28nm的技术,效率水平还不如bitfury的55nm工艺,现在从研发进度推测,跳票是在所难免。

KNC采用的封装工艺,是非常先进的工艺,难度非常大,执行进度会非常慢,拿到芯片后,还有经过很长一段时间才能出货,参考蝴蝶出货的速度就知道了。不限于KNC,几乎所有28nm工艺、数百G单芯片的矿机,都会面临这个问题。到时候芯片测试通过、矿机出不来,大家就准备好欣赏二泉映月吧——水中的月亮,看得到,捞不起来!

我知道国内很多day 1的KNC大户都已经退货了。退货之前,在一些大户群里面嚷嚷了很久,根本就没有人买!大户也比较有良心,没有强行推销,自己就去退了。这些人从一开始就长期关注KNC,最知道KNC的底细和前途如何。

楼主,bitmine 矿机的情况呢?


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: polarhei on September 18, 2013, 02:34:00 AM
水很深啊,没有一定的技术水平,不要趟水啊。

為何要找ORSOC協助? 就是ORSOC可以協助做得有多大就有多大.


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: yuchuanzhen on September 20, 2013, 12:51:39 AM
KnCMiner 28nm Die Photos - Hot of the Press from our Packaging Assembly House

Guy’s, below we have some photos to share from our packaging house in Asia who are currently are in possession of our wafers; slicing and packaging the dies into the chips you and we so badly want to get our hands on.

The finish line is in sight. A few sleepless nights yet, but we are doing everything we can to keep our delivery promise. This is nail-biting to say the least.

Going to post some more hosting facility pictures on the forum later today as well. So look out for those. They’re from last weekend, something else we’ve forgone for the immediate future. Let’s just take a moment to thank or very understanding wives, and children, who have been exceptionally restrained and understanding considering the last few months. We’re all looking forward to making amends on some lost time there.

However, there are a couple of pictures below, we know you’ve anxiously wanted to see. As you can see we’ve managed to etch our logo onto the die itself. To give you some idea of scale, the logo itself is just under 1mm in height;
http://forum.kncminer.com/filedata/fetch?photoid=2546

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KnC更新。真实性自己判断。


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: fwzd on September 20, 2013, 12:57:15 AM
听说已经封安装了


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: innovation on September 20, 2013, 02:21:51 AM
听说已经封安装了
哪里听说的?


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: innovation on September 20, 2013, 02:23:02 AM
KnCMiner 28nm Die Photos - Hot of the Press from our Packaging Assembly House

Guy’s, below we have some photos to share from our packaging house in Asia who are currently are in possession of our wafers; slicing and packaging the dies into the chips you and we so badly want to get our hands on.

The finish line is in sight. A few sleepless nights yet, but we are doing everything we can to keep our delivery promise. This is nail-biting to say the least.

Going to post some more hosting facility pictures on the forum later today as well. So look out for those. They’re from last weekend, something else we’ve forgone for the immediate future. Let’s just take a moment to thank or very understanding wives, and children, who have been exceptionally restrained and understanding considering the last few months. We’re all looking forward to making amends on some lost time there.

However, there are a couple of pictures below, we know you’ve anxiously wanted to see. As you can see we’ve managed to etch our logo onto the die itself. To give you some idea of scale, the logo itself is just under 1mm in height;
http://forum.kncminer.com/filedata/fetch?photoid=2546

-----
KnC更新。真实性自己判断。

说实话,我真看不懂。

反正感觉kncminer煞有其事的样子。继续等待吧。反正大家说他不靠谱。


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: polarhei on September 20, 2013, 04:55:56 AM
很多東西就是如此, 也是一句, 強國人暫時更可靠過說謊言的.


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: bziytjctocintalk2013 on September 24, 2013, 08:17:31 AM
现在是坑机的时代 ;D


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: kengdie on September 24, 2013, 09:58:13 AM
knc在我们坑氏家族,其实都排不上号的。


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: kmtan on September 24, 2013, 12:53:35 PM
我是看不懂那图片。。


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: polarhei on September 24, 2013, 04:12:20 PM
我是看不懂那图片。。

該圖意味準備好,隨時測試。我相信北歐公司


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: lmeng on September 24, 2013, 05:44:59 PM
28nm的技术风起云涌~  只等年底见分晓了~

不用年底吧,貌似有厂家预计10月底出货啊


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: polarhei on September 25, 2013, 06:06:08 AM
28nm的技术风起云涌~  只等年底见分晓了~

不用年底吧,貌似有厂家预计10月底出货啊

要看數目的多少而定. 該公司暫時只提供100Gh/s穩定組合. 在28nm的標準示範而言, 已經不錯的了. 當然, 因為功率控制很好, 故4顆可以運行的速度會稍高. 最新我收到一則短片, 開始封裝測試.

我最近收到一消息, 大約在2013年10月1日, KNCMINER會先在CLOUDHASHING上線.


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: zkfq12345 on September 25, 2013, 03:06:08 PM
估计发行量会很小


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: Satobit on September 25, 2013, 06:05:24 PM
我是看不懂那图片。。

該圖意味準備好,隨時測試。我相信北歐公司

那图根本不能说明什么,IC还是没看到。北欧高贵白种人也有骗子垃圾,强国蝗虫里也有诚实勤奋靠谱的人。阿灿哥你也不用自我歧视。

按这种情况,KnC铁定不能按时发货。


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: lmeng on September 25, 2013, 08:47:52 PM
我是看不懂那图片。。

該圖意味準備好,隨時測試。我相信北歐公司

那图根本不能说明什么,IC还是没看到。北欧高贵白种人也有骗子垃圾,强国蝗虫里也有诚实勤奋靠谱的人。阿灿哥你也不用自我歧视。

按这种情况,KnC铁定不能按时发货。

那些会是比较可靠的商家呢?HashFast, CoinTerra or Bitfury


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: innovation on September 25, 2013, 10:48:10 PM
28nm的技术风起云涌~  只等年底见分晓了~

不用年底吧,貌似有厂家预计10月底出货啊

要看數目的多少而定. 該公司暫時只提供100Gh/s穩定組合. 在28nm的標準示範而言, 已經不錯的了. 當然, 因為功率控制很好, 故4顆可以運行的速度會稍高. 最新我收到一則短片, 開始封裝測試.

我最近收到一消息, 大約在2013年10月1日, KNCMINER會先在CLOUDHASHING上線.

没有看懂“ 最新我收到一則短片, 開始封裝測試. ”? 短片是指测试芯片吗?


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: fjl998 on September 27, 2013, 12:14:55 PM
KNC是哪儿的?


Title: Re: 关于KNC矿机
Post by: ikal on September 27, 2013, 10:08:10 PM
KNC是哪儿的?

https://www.kncminer.com

不用謝了 ;D