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Title: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: WilliamBratsky on February 15, 2018, 04:17:20 AM
Hey, a friend of my can't register, he always gets banned when he signs up, any idea why?

His account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1683409)


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: achow101 on February 15, 2018, 04:29:10 AM
His account is proxybanned which means that he is accessing the forum from an IP address that is considered evil (that IP address was used to do evil things before like DoS attacks, spamming, having banned accounts, etc.). Such IPs are usually Tor exit nodes or proxies.

The only way around it is to pay the fee.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: HabBear on February 15, 2018, 05:10:58 AM
The only way around it is to pay the fee.

Yep.


WilliamBratsky, have your friend send a personal message to Theymos explaining what's happening. Theymos will then decide what the fee will be to take that IP address off the proxyban list. It shouldn't be some crazy amount. You'll probably have to wait a while for Theymos to respond...the boss is busy.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: WilliamBratsky on February 15, 2018, 04:29:18 PM
The only way around it is to pay the fee.

Yep.


WilliamBratsky, have your friend send a personal message to Theymos explaining what's happening. Theymos will then decide what the fee will be to take that IP address off the proxyban list. It shouldn't be some crazy amount. You'll probably have to wait a while for Theymos to respond...the boss is busy.


He can't sent pms, because he is banned, so he is frozen in his spot


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: WilliamBratsky on February 15, 2018, 04:29:55 PM
His account is proxybanned which means that he is accessing the forum from an IP address that is considered evil (that IP address was used to do evil things before like DoS attacks, spamming, having banned accounts, etc.). Such IPs are usually Tor exit nodes or proxies.

The only way around it is to pay the fee.

But is a mistake, he did never post anythin on BTT before.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: ranochigo on February 15, 2018, 04:32:37 PM
His account is proxybanned which means that he is accessing the forum from an IP address that is considered evil (that IP address was used to do evil things before like DoS attacks, spamming, having banned accounts, etc.). Such IPs are usually Tor exit nodes or proxies.

The only way around it is to pay the fee.

But is a mistake, he did never post anythin on BTT before.
As long as your IP is blacklisted, you have to pay the fee. It is not a mistake, it happens if you use Tor exit nodes or known proxies too.

Ask your friend to register using his own house internet or pay the fee.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: jackg on February 15, 2018, 05:05:20 PM
He can't sent pms, because he is banned, so he is frozen in his spot

But you can send PMs on his behalf.



Do you know the nature of his IP address. If it is that it is his own, can you get his isp (internet service provider) to give him a new one.
If it's from a place such as Tor, get a new Tor circuit.
Or if it's a vpn, use a different IP for the connection.

If all that's done, it might be a locaion issue, does he live near you? As it's part of the SmartBan system they have whereby if an IP address does an action malicious, other IP addresses of that range get a small mark.
You'll have to get him to register a new account however though most likely...



To explain the Smart Ban system better:
If someone uses the IP address 192.168.80.5 ← internal address fromat - not a real public one.
If something malicious is done with that address:
192.168.80.0-to-192.168.80.255 are marked as potentially malicious and so inherit some of the red that 192.168.80.5 got.
192.168.0.0-to-192.168.255.255 are also marked as potentially malicious, less so than the other however... and so on.



Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: LoyceV on February 15, 2018, 06:20:24 PM
But you can send PMs on his behalf.
I'm pretty sure theymos ignores PMs from/about people who don't want to pay for the Units of Evil.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: andreijoaquin on February 15, 2018, 06:44:42 PM
Hey, a friend of my can't register, he always gets banned when he signs up, any idea why?

His account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1683409)
They say it is because of the proxy banned especially if you are using a public connection whereas one of those people who used to share with this connection happens to get banned and so the rest of people who will register using that IP address will also suffer. Better get his own personal internet connection so the IP will be new.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: Abal Abal on February 15, 2018, 07:05:28 PM
Hey, a friend of my can't register, he always gets banned when he signs up, any idea why?

His account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1683409)

registering bitcointalk account is very difficult now.
is this the bitcoin forum to make it difficult for people to register?


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: WilliamBratsky on February 15, 2018, 09:27:00 PM
His account is proxybanned which means that he is accessing the forum from an IP address that is considered evil (that IP address was used to do evil things before like DoS attacks, spamming, having banned accounts, etc.). Such IPs are usually Tor exit nodes or proxies.

The only way around it is to pay the fee.

But is a mistake, he did never post anythin on BTT before.
As long as your IP is blacklisted, you have to pay the fee. It is not a mistake, it happens if you use Tor exit nodes or known proxies too.

Ask your friend to register using his own house internet or pay the fee.

This is not one of the cases where a noob is talking back to a veteran, but:
He was blacklisted since day one. He used his normal home internet to sign up and got instabanned. He tried and VPN then and got banned too, but to this day he never wrote a message or made a post.
So maybe his home IP is blacklisted for some reason, what shall he do?


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: WilliamBratsky on February 15, 2018, 09:28:36 PM
He can't sent pms, because he is banned, so he is frozen in his spot

But you can send PMs on his behalf.



Do you know the nature of his IP address. If it is that it is his own, can you get his isp (internet service provider) to give him a new one.
If it's from a place such as Tor, get a new Tor circuit.
Or if it's a vpn, use a different IP for the connection.

If all that's done, it might be a locaion issue, does he live near you? As it's part of the SmartBan system they have whereby if an IP address does an action malicious, other IP addresses of that range get a small mark.
You'll have to get him to register a new account however though most likely...



To explain the Smart Ban system better:
If someone uses the IP address 192.168.80.5 ← internal address fromat - not a real public one.
If something malicious is done with that address:
192.168.80.0-to-192.168.80.255 are marked as potentially malicious and so inherit some of the red that 192.168.80.5 got.
192.168.0.0-to-192.168.255.255 are also marked as potentially malicious, less so than the other however... and so on.


1. I did message Theymos, but I got no answer
2. No sorry I don't know the nature of his IP. I will ask him about his ISP.
3. No he lives in the US and I do live in Europe.
4. This is already his 4th or 5th account, but he never posted anything. He has 4/5 accounts with zero posts.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: teddy5145 on February 15, 2018, 09:36:39 PM
1. I did message Theymos, but I got no answer
2. No sorry I don't know the nature of his IP. I will ask him about his ISP.
3. No he lives in the US and I do live in Europe.
4. This is already his 4th or 5th account, but he never posted anything. He has 4/5 accounts with zero posts.
1. Your PM probably got ignored by Theymos as he says he doesn't want to respond to PM regarding this kind of topic

4. It's because those account were used in the same network, which got blacklisted for being malicious.

This is not one of the cases where a noob is talking back to a veteran, but:
He was blacklisted since day one. He used his normal home internet to sign up and got instabanned. He tried and VPN then and got banned too, but to this day he never wrote a message or made a post.
So maybe his home IP is blacklisted for some reason, what shall he do?
It's because even his home network are using public IP that is assigned by his ISP.
That public IP probably done something bad in the past for the system to blacklist it.

Honestly, your friend should just pay up, it's usually only a few cents requires to whitelist the IP back, rather than spending your time PMing Theymos in a hope for an answer.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: TryNinja on February 15, 2018, 09:37:46 PM
You could create him an account. If his IP is blacklisted, he will only need to pay the fee when registering the account. If he already has one, there will be no limitations.

Having multiple accounts is not against the rules. So, him having the same registration IP as you won't be an issue.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: WilliamBratsky on February 15, 2018, 11:21:29 PM
@teddy5145
Thanks makes sense, I would also not bother with this  :-\

You could create him an account. If his IP is blacklisted, he will only need to pay the fee when registering the account. If he already has one, there will be no limitations.

Having multiple accounts is not against the rules. So, him having the same registration IP as you won't be an issue.
Good idea thanks


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: jackg on February 15, 2018, 11:50:03 PM
1. I did message Theymos, but I got no answer
2. No sorry I don't know the nature of his IP. I will ask him about his ISP.
3. No he lives in the US and I do live in Europe.
4. This is already his 4th or 5th account, but he never posted anything. He has 4/5 accounts with zero posts.
1. Your PM probably got ignored by Theymos as he says he doesn't want to respond to PM regarding this kind of topic

4. It's because those account were used in the same network, which got blacklisted for being malicious.

This is not one of the cases where a noob is talking back to a veteran, but:
He was blacklisted since day one. He used his normal home internet to sign up and got instabanned. He tried and VPN then and got banned too, but to this day he never wrote a message or made a post.
So maybe his home IP is blacklisted for some reason, what shall he do?
It's because even his home network are using public IP that is assigned by his ISP.
That public IP probably done something bad in the past for the system to blacklist it.

Honestly, your friend should just pay up, it's usually only a few cents requires to whitelist the IP back, rather than spending your time PMing Theymos in a hope for an answer.

1. It has only been a day but it will probably be ignored nonetheless (especially since a mod has already posted here and not offered anything without paying the fee).
4. Multiple accounts can be used on this forum. I acquired a few accounts from loans that I just held onto and leave stagnant.


Request a new IP from his ISP also. A blacklisted IP here might mean it's blacklisted elsewhere - a mere phone call and they should switch it for free if they're a good company.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: DaftAjax on February 16, 2018, 10:35:21 AM
Why don't you just consider on using some alternative device, maybe that's the problem.

Logging in from another device means you are also changing IP address. Because for some reason the IP sticks with you, but I'm pretty sure that IPs changes when you go to other places as well.

Unlike MAC addresses, it sticks to the device it self.

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Maybe its from the device you're connecting to, if there is - a Wi-Fi for instance.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: teddy5145 on February 16, 2018, 11:27:04 AM
I never said having multiple account are not allowed (unless used to farm campaigns)
I was trying to say that no matter how many accounts he registered, it won't be able to post anyway since his IP got Blacklisted, maybe I should put a better effort on my wording next time :P

It's also depends on his ISP, some use dynamic IP, which if the modem are restarted it will automatically grab a new IP.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: jackg on February 16, 2018, 04:59:01 PM
I never said having multiple account are not allowed (unless used to farm campaigns)
I was trying to say that no matter how many accounts he registered, it won't be able to post anyway since his IP got Blacklisted, maybe I should put a better effort on my wording next time :P

It's also depends on his ISP, some use dynamic IP, which if the modem are restarted it will automatically grab a new IP.

Ah. I was attempting to quote just OPs response for that but my phone couldn't cope with it - so I scrolled over what you put and considered it was his so it did seem a bit confusing.

Also, routers do change when using dynamic IP assigning. They usually have to be off for around 8 hours is normally the suggestion as the ISP will tend to try to assign the regular IP back to the same router again if it hasn't been taken (my suggestion: turn it off as you're about to sleep in the evening and then turn it back on in the morning and it should get a different IP - though the process may need repeating).


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: BuenasBitcoin1 on February 16, 2018, 11:47:08 PM
The only way around it is to pay the fee.

Yep.


WilliamBratsky, have your friend send a personal message to Theymos explaining what's happening. Theymos will then decide what the fee will be to take that IP address off the proxyban list. It shouldn't be some crazy amount. You'll probably have to wait a while for Theymos to respond...the boss is busy.
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The same happen to my friends, Is there other way to avoid payments.? Speaking of payments, How much do they need to pay just to login in the forum, ?


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: jackg on February 16, 2018, 11:52:59 PM
The only way around it is to pay the fee.

Yep.


WilliamBratsky, have your friend send a personal message to Theymos explaining what's happening. Theymos will then decide what the fee will be to take that IP address off the proxyban list. It shouldn't be some crazy amount. You'll probably have to wait a while for Theymos to respond...the boss is busy.

The same happen to my friends, Is there other way to avoid payments.? Speaking of payments, How much do they need to pay just to login in the forum, ?

There isn't a way to avoid it other than to use your IP or a non blacklisted IP to register here with a brand new account.
As for the fee, you're better asking them as it'll very based on how banned that IP is.


Title: Re: A friend of mine can't register
Post by: barsharkol12 on February 17, 2018, 02:23:34 AM
your friends IP address that he use to register to btt was used to other things like spamming or been used to register to other accounts. to register, you need to find another PC that the IP IS not used or the IP is not banned. i done it many times that i have been banned and unable to post. create to another PCs.