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Title: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: JuniAiko on February 15, 2018, 11:30:27 AM
All XRP HODLers have gotta see this and make an INFORMED decision about the long-term future of this token:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhieGgf219Y


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: JuniAiko on February 15, 2018, 11:31:52 AM
Meanwhile:

Online Payments Company Stripe drops Bitcoin, eyes Stellar, OmiseGO
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/01/25/online-payments-company-stripe-drops-bitcoin-eyes-stellar-omisego/

and

Stellarport, Stellar Lumens’s Decentralised Exchange, is now live
https://www.finder.com.au/stellarport-stellar-lumens-decentralised-exchange-now-live


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: ðºÞæ on February 15, 2018, 11:51:00 AM
Ripple Inc wants to...........

10 to 15 transaction in total since October. that xrp turd will drop so bad arse. The only thing i can see is class action lawsuits when the mad gambles run in circles screaming i was promised.............

How long will mad gamblers sent there paycheck to someone else's account? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2903039.msg29852549#msg29852549)

10 -15  transaction in half a year and billions dollar marketcap :D


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: JuniAiko on February 15, 2018, 05:32:59 PM
Jed Confirms, IBM/Stellar has 30 Banks on Board
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellar/comments/7i3os0/jed_confirms_ibmstellar_has_30_banks_on_board/


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: KryptoKai on February 15, 2018, 05:58:41 PM
Ripple has been around for ages. If banks were interested in their product then it would have been adopted by now. There is too much risk in the crypto world for banks to make use of it rather than tranfering real cash. Only something like tether would have been useful if that wasn't identified as a scam :D


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: AllthewayUUppp on February 15, 2018, 06:00:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhieGgf219Y

Well Ripple was made for those bank and their technology was made for those banks that's why they really chosen Ripple. Please don't get believe on their fakes news that they invent they just want to manipulate as just to control all over the supply or BTC and ETH.


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: coinmgnet on February 15, 2018, 06:01:39 PM
Meanwhile:

Online Payments Company Stripe drops Bitcoin, eyes Stellar, OmiseGO
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/01/25/online-payments-company-stripe-drops-bitcoin-eyes-stellar-omisego/

and

Stellarport, Stellar Lumens’s Decentralised Exchange, is now live
https://www.finder.com.au/stellarport-stellar-lumens-decentralised-exchange-now-live

Banks will try to preserve their way of live. Making a lot of money on the backs of the people. They will fight against crypto, we need to strike back.


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: blozo on February 15, 2018, 06:09:53 PM
Banks and institutions are using the Ripple products but not the XRP token (they will never use such a volatile asset)

Stellar is a better product if compared to Ripple as it is more decentralized


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: HongKong on February 15, 2018, 06:10:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhieGgf219Y
Ripple has too much corporate issues. That is why Cryptocurrency should be that way it was normally built for.


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: pey on February 15, 2018, 06:22:16 PM
If I had to invest in such coins, I would invest in stellar instead of ripple, stellar is less valued compared to ripple and it is maybe better product than ripple so why cut your profit by investing in ripple?


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: muhdatha on February 16, 2018, 10:24:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhieGgf219Y
Ripple has too much corporate issues. That is why Cryptocurrency should be that way it was normally built for.
Ripple almost every day bring us good news about it's new partners - banks or payment systems etc
It's so strange that Ripple doesn't grow


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: JuniAiko on February 17, 2018, 09:45:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhieGgf219Y
Ripple has too much corporate issues. That is why Cryptocurrency should be that way it was normally built for.
Ripple almost every day bring us good news about it's new partners - banks or payment systems etc
It's so strange that Ripple doesn't grow

Read above. Ripple partnering with banks/payment systems do not necessarily mean that XRP is being used.

News of banks "testing" XRP have ended up with them rejecting the use of XRP, even if they use the Ripple Network w/o adopting the XRP token.

Either way, the Ripple Company profits + the top executive are allowed to cash-out on their XRP tokens with a significant legal limit, which can effective devalue the coin gradually.


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: SoulEaterRR on February 17, 2018, 10:05:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhieGgf219Y
Correctly why do everything against yourself, it is better to swap money from investors. And the rise in prices therefore we do not see, although many banks have already joined the ripple. This is their policy, which many clever people have already unraveled.


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: pikatju on February 17, 2018, 10:08:24 AM
Ripple is overloaded with corporate flaws. The whole point of cryptocurrency is to avoid the centralization of corporate. Ripple will ultimately fail because of that.


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: AhaGo on February 17, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Ripple will be adopted by more banks. But what is the value of XRP coins? The answer is no.


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: BlackWidow on February 17, 2018, 08:46:13 PM
This is a difficult question , where the truth and the lie , Perhaps we want to cheat . And perhaps who believes in the project will earn very good money . You choose . I made my choice.


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: TrumpD on February 17, 2018, 09:10:39 PM
Well, I invested in XRP in January, a few weeks back. The recent price drop for all major coins did not help XRP's stance. But that being said, I am in for the log run. Ripple was specifically created for banks and other financial institutions, at some point they will come on board. Digital and crytpocurrencies have a massive future, and since XRP has been around for quite a while now, I feel they will eventually pull it off, in the regulated crypto market.


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: cryptotsunami on February 18, 2018, 04:01:39 PM
I would prefer Stellar Lumen than Ripple because it is decentralized with the same feature of Ripple and besides Stellar Lumen is more trustful than Ripple. Ripple is like a ticking bomb that will explode and dump anytime.


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: JuniAiko on February 19, 2018, 10:50:19 AM
Not wise to judge a coin's long-term potential base just on pricing trends alone. Most of that are just speculation.

Doubts over Ripple Labs’ Southeast Asia strategy amid reports from Singapore

https://www.finder.com.au/doubts-over-ripple-labs-southeast-asia-strategy-amid-reports-from-Singapore

Investing in Ripple is super risky IMO.

Quote
Competition for Ripple
The difficulty for Ripple Labs is competition. Up until recent years, the Society for Worldwide International Financial Telecommunications, more commonly known as SWIFT, was the sole competitor in the cross-border payment space. During 2015, Ripple’s blockchain technology was being developed and at that time it was a sole competitor in this space. Now there are other technological companies moving into the marketplace.
Among those competitors are Hyperledger and IBM’s Stellar. Alongside these potential competitors, it is unclear whether Singapore is conducting in-house blockchain technology development. What is clear from recent reports published in Singapore is that the Southeast Asian marketplace for Ripple’s technology is becoming crowded quickly. The US Federal Reserve and the English Central Bank have conducted “proof of concept” testing with Ripple Technologies implying a greater readiness to implement Ripple’s technologies in a Western framework of cross-border remittances.

The "utility" of XRP

The small but growing body of evidence shows a different approach to the issue being taken in Singapore. This is important because Singapore is the “key financial centre” of Southeast Asia. This leads to the idea that there seems to be more resistance to Ripple’s technology in Southeast Asia which is the “priority market” of Ripple Labs. Brad Garlinghouse has previously stated that the defining value of cryptocurrencies in 2018 will be their “utility.” Aside from coining one of the great cryptocurrency cliches of 2018, Mr Garlinghouse’s analysis concerning utility is correct. The trouble for Ripple, and by extension XRP, is that while there is great value in reducing costs and increasing the efficiency of cross-border payments, Ripple does not extend its utility far beyond that.

Ripple markets its technology on the basis that if a bank in Singapore does not hold the currency of the country it is remitting to, XRP fills that void by easily exchanging into a currency such as US dollars. As a result, Southeast Asian banks are watching the price fluctuations of XRP with hawk eyes. This is happening at the same time as CoinMarketCap’s readjustment of price calculations has had a dramatic effect on the price of XRP.
Since the readjustment, XRP’s price has dropped from an all-time high of US$3.84 plunging dramatically to US$1.93 at the time of writing on 11 January 2018. The CoinMarketCap readjustment changed its data to exclude South Korean cryptocurrency exchange data from its price calculations. The effect this has had on the price of XRP has been just as impacting as the volume of daily trade in XRP emerging from the South Korean exchanges.
Some estimates put the value of Korean trade in XRP at above 30% of total global trade in XRP. Although they are unrelated events, CoinMarketCap’s decision to alter their price calculations seems oddly timed. This serves to make accurate calculations of XRP a little more difficult but does not separate XRP from the suspicion that its price could be dependent or at least affected by market speculation.

The limits of "utility"

This takes the shine off XRP’s and Ripple’s most tangible selling point. If the price of XRP cannot be stabilised, its function as a measure of cross-border payments becomes highly doubtful. What seems just as likely is that homegrown currencies issued by the MAS could be created around the technology of Ripple or one of its competitors. The Singaporean dollar generally trades at a fixed exchange rate of about one Singaporean dollar to one US dollar.
What that fixed exchange rate implies is that the use of US dollars in cross-border payments of Singaporean financial institutions is very high, which is the result of the Singaporean economy being structured around the petroleum processing industry. Essentially, the MAS will be faced with a decision as it transitions its existing cross-border payments system away from SWIFT to blockchain technologies. That decision will be whether to continue that fixed exchange rate with the currency being entered on that new blockchain.

The reason why this is so important as it relates to Ripple is that there would be US financial interests keen on XRP or at least Ripple technologies playing a large role in the continuation of Singapore’s fixed exchange rate against the US dollar. The space is so uncertain that it is impossible to know at this early stage exactly what the outcome of blockchain technology adoption in global financial markets and institutions will be. But Singapore would be a very significant market to lose if the Ripple technologies were not to be adopted by the MAS.
What this means for the price of XRP is uncertain. What is clear is that just as easily as Ripple’s blockchain innovations could be adopted, XRP could just as easily be considered unnecessary. If their Southeast Asian strategy of Ripple Labs and CEO Brad Garlinghouse is successful, that would be a boon for the price of XRP. If not, that may mean that XRP could be confined to a “Western hemisphere” of cross-border payments which would signal a watershed moment for XRP and perhaps also the US dollar.

A significantly better investment (for a crypto with a similar aim as Ripple, but so much more) would be the more decentralized Stellar Lumens (XLM) IMO; that is rapidly ACTUALLY being increasingly adopted within the developing countries in SE-Asia -- See links posted above earlier in this thread.


Title: Re: Banks Don't Want Ripple's $80 Billion of Digital Money
Post by: JuniAiko on February 19, 2018, 08:39:54 PM
Also, why is there an "RIP" in "Ripple"?

COIN.cidence? I think not! :o