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Title: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: WaRz0r on September 18, 2013, 01:45:10 AM
Hey all,

What is the go with this block??

http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000a1915534fd03bf0c440f498e9982f4aae7193b46a9fc3bc71 (http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000a1915534fd03bf0c440f498e9982f4aae7193b46a9fc3bc71)

 
106.31862532 reward with ~81btc in transaction fees???? Is it just that someone is paying huge fees for their transactions to get processed quicker?

Thanks in advance


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: cbhelp on September 18, 2013, 01:50:08 AM
Interesting


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: -ck on September 18, 2013, 01:57:50 AM
Not the first time someone made a transaction and screwed up, mistakenly sending a very large transaction fee.


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: jabetizo on September 18, 2013, 02:00:17 AM
http://blockchain.info/address/1LtjWsKsrr2RweDLAmv75oGL7tjVF4wx7W

this address has recently made transactions with 80, 1, 50 and 80.98 BTC in fees


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: pocesar on September 18, 2013, 02:12:44 AM
I'm speechless... the DOT / COMMA problem is really an issue (like being discussed in another thread)


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: Sitarow on September 18, 2013, 02:37:10 AM
Hey all,

What is the go with this block??

http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000a1915534fd03bf0c440f498e9982f4aae7193b46a9fc3bc71

 
106.31862532 reward with ~81btc in transaction fees???? Is it just that someone is paying huge fees for their transactions to get processed quicker?

Thanks in advance


Since btc guild was the one that solved this perhaps who ever sent it should provide control and proof and maybe get that resolved. :)

Happened in the past. First confirmed charge back :)

14cZMQk89mRYQkDEj8Rn25AnGoBi5H6uer


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: CIYAM on September 18, 2013, 03:06:26 AM
I think I was the first to get a refund after mistakenly paying a fee of 110 BTC (and it was BTC Guild that refunded me just over 100 BTC).

Most likely it is someone using raw tx API and has either made a silly typo or not understood correctly what they are doing (i.e. that all UTXO BTC that is not *sent* to an output address is the tx fee).

What might help reduce these problems would be for bitcoin to spit out some kind of excessive fee warning (such as 10x the calculated minimum fee required).


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: eleuthria on September 18, 2013, 03:10:12 AM
It's actually 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX  that is the really big problem.  This address has been paying multiple massive tx fees all day.

Unfortunately, unlike in the past, BTC Guild really can't do much anymore.  Over 90% of the pool is on the PPLNS system, meaning transaction fees are no longer sitting in the pool funds like they used to be back when the pool was all/mostly PPS.  We've refunded hundreds of BTC in mistaken tx fees in the past, but it's not an option when the fees are being distributed to the miners.


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: Sitarow on September 18, 2013, 04:30:04 AM
It's actually 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX  that is the really big problem.  This address has been paying multiple massive tx fees all day.

Unfortunately, unlike in the past, BTC Guild really can't do much anymore.  Over 90% of the pool is on the PPLNS system, meaning transaction fees are no longer sitting in the pool funds like they used to be back when the pool was all/mostly PPS.  We've refunded hundreds of BTC in mistaken tx fees in the past, but it's not an option when the fees are being distributed to the miners.

Your efforts are appreciated.

Thanks for the update.


However someone should tell this guy hes giving away btc. :) or :(.

Hope they know what they are doing.


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: eleuthria on September 18, 2013, 05:43:03 PM
It's actually 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX  that is the really big problem.  This address has been paying multiple massive tx fees all day.

Unfortunately, unlike in the past, BTC Guild really can't do much anymore.  Over 90% of the pool is on the PPLNS system, meaning transaction fees are no longer sitting in the pool funds like they used to be back when the pool was all/mostly PPS.  We've refunded hundreds of BTC in mistaken tx fees in the past, but it's not an option when the fees are being distributed to the miners.

Your efforts are appreciated.

Thanks for the update.


However someone should tell this guy hes giving away btc. :) or :(.

Hope they know what they are doing.


I made a post in the main forum about it after the 106 BTC block hit, but there's not a whole lot that can be done to contact them.  At this point it looks deliberate (you don't make the same mistake that many times without noticing the money going missing).


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: jabetizo on September 18, 2013, 05:50:49 PM
trying to start an orphan war?


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: DannyHamilton on September 18, 2013, 06:11:03 PM
- snip -
At this point it looks deliberate (you don't make the same mistake that many times without noticing the money going missing).

More likely it is an unmonitored program with a bug in it.  Eventually the operator will notice the significant loss of funds, but because of the possibility of a Ponzi/Pyramid effect, it could take a while before it becomes a big enough problem for them to notice.

It appears possibly to be a "mixing service".


Title: Re: 106.31862532 reward from a block ??
Post by: smolen on September 19, 2013, 11:43:53 PM
This address has been paying multiple massive tx fees all day.
Bitcoin laundering via BTC Guild revealed! :D :D :D