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Title: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: ggbtctalk000 on February 16, 2018, 11:33:33 PM I am tired of looking around PSU with 6x or more gpu connector. There seems to be second PSU can easily be turned on using paperclip method. Is that how most miners do it?
Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: Vann on February 17, 2018, 12:04:42 AM The paperclip method will keep the secondary PSU always on. You need to manually flip the switch on the PSU to turn it off. I prefer to use a dual ATX splitter cable. That will keep the primary PSU in sync with the secondary PSU so they turn on/off together and also connects the grounds on both PSU's together.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/24Pin-20-4pin-ATX-Mining-30cm-24-Pin-Dual-PSU-Power-Supply-Extension-Cable-for-Computer/32823752791.html? Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: adaseb on February 17, 2018, 12:18:26 AM Yes you can use the paper clip.
Just turn both PSU at the same time and off at the same time. Attach a small fan or old SATA drive or anything just to provide a small load on the secondary PSU. Make sure they are grounded together Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: androstan1234 on February 17, 2018, 12:21:49 AM The paperclip method will keep the secondary PSU always on. You need to manually flip the switch on the PSU to turn it off. I prefer to use a dual ATX splitter cable. That will keep the primary PSU in sync with the secondary PSU so they turn on/off together and also connects the grounds on both PSU's together. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/24Pin-20-4pin-ATX-Mining-30cm-24-Pin-Dual-PSU-Power-Supply-Extension-Cable-for-Computer/32823752791.html? Is there any reason to use an add2psu instead of an atx splitter cable? Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: Vann on February 17, 2018, 12:30:05 AM I have used the original Add2PSU, the copy and the ATX spliiter cable. I like the ATX splitter cables the best. Basically all you are doing is connecting the ground and +12v power on signal of the PSU's so they turn on and off together. The ATX splitter cable does it in the simplest and most direct way. The Add2PSU is just a Reed relay that joins the connections when the relay gets power from the Sata/molex connector. From my experience, the splitter cable is the most reliable method. In some cases the the Add2PSU won't turn the PSU's on/off together.
Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: gotminer on February 17, 2018, 01:31:04 AM I haven't used the ADD2PSU, but I have used the atx splitter and the paperclip method. I much prefer the atx splitter. Simple, easy, cheap, and it works.
Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: leonix007 on February 17, 2018, 01:58:42 AM Same here haha, I've gotten used to it, when I'm in a hurry going back to my hometown and no time to search on a add2psu cable, paper clip saves the day, two of my rigs has been mining for years on this method. :D
Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: jillscarbrough on February 17, 2018, 05:02:02 AM I am tired of looking around PSU with 6x or more gpu connector. There seems to be second PSU can easily be turned on using paperclip method. Is that how most miners do it? 3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu.Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: chandrarahmadewa on February 17, 2018, 05:12:18 AM 3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu. some people said to use a paperclip on our PSU, we need to connect green cable and black one. in my case, all of my 24 pins has a black cable, which one I need to connect? Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: CryptoPlay on February 17, 2018, 06:24:50 AM 3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu. some people said to use a paperclip on our PSU, we need to connect green cable and black one. in my case, all of my 24 pins has a black cable, which one I need to connect? Just Google. .. Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: jillscarbrough on February 17, 2018, 06:53:39 AM 3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu. some people said to use a paperclip on our PSU, we need to connect green cable and black one. in my case, all of my 24 pins has a black cable, which one I need to connect? Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: chandrarahmadewa on February 17, 2018, 07:00:32 AM the green one is number 16 Pin, you can connect the green one to any ground Pin cable, 3,15,17 etc.for more clearly you can see the picture below: it's clear now, so I need to count until the holes number 16 (for 24 pins, it is green). Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: szafa on February 17, 2018, 07:29:55 AM Paperclip is green and any black pin.Someone have one motherboad and i think he use this method.
Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: Turkish88 on February 17, 2018, 08:37:04 AM Connect green to green and black to black from one PSU to OTHER and your psu's start and off both
Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: Vann on February 17, 2018, 11:22:55 AM I am tired of looking around PSU with 6x or more gpu connector. There seems to be second PSU can easily be turned on using paperclip method. Is that how most miners do it? 3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu.Except the Add2PSU doesn't place a load on the 5V line of the secondary PSU. It's just a 12V relay that connects the +12V power on cable and ground on the secondary PSU when it senses +12V power on the sata/molex that's connected from the primary PSU connected to the motherboard. You can create your own Add2PSU from an automotive realy. http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDArticles&op=Story&ndar_id=27 Dual conversion PSU's are the best because they convert the entire energy into a 12V single rail and then uses VRM to generate 5V and 3.3V. The cheaper PSU type converts using different taps in the transformer for each voltage and use the 5V line to regulate the voltage, instead of the 12V line like the dual conversion models. That causes voltage instability from not loading the 5V line. Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: ikicha on February 17, 2018, 12:01:18 PM I using add2psu relay to combine dual PSU
750+750W. Simple and safety than paperclip. Add2psu is cheap, only $10 Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: ggbtctalk000 on February 17, 2018, 06:05:56 PM The paperclip method will keep the secondary PSU always on. You need to manually flip the switch on the PSU to turn it off. I prefer to use a dual ATX splitter cable. That will keep the primary PSU in sync with the secondary PSU so they turn on/off together and also connects the grounds on both PSU's together. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/24Pin-20-4pin-ATX-Mining-30cm-24-Pin-Dual-PSU-Power-Supply-Extension-Cable-for-Computer/32823752791.html? thanks, that is what i observed. Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: ggbtctalk000 on February 17, 2018, 06:09:09 PM i had 750w PSU which i did it just fine. But i had thermaltake toughpower 1200w and paperclip is not working. Yes i certainly connected #16 green to one of the ground and will not power up. Plus all cables are black so was tricky. I did 5-6 tries on 2 1200w toughpower psu only one time it powered up and then no more. I think I will get small PSU since I dont need huge one.
Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: coinzoid on February 17, 2018, 06:21:08 PM Personally, I have used Add2PSU, EvgaPSUTester and Paper Clip method. All works, but the best for me is Add2PSU. PSU Tester uses Paper clip method as well. So you need to turn on/off manually for those.
Add2PSU also has good customer service. They have sent me wrong item at my first order. After contacting them for partial refund, they have refunded and sent me correct item free of charge. Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: treanski on February 17, 2018, 06:34:49 PM doing paperclip method on several rigs for months now, everything good
Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: ggbtctalk000 on February 17, 2018, 07:22:27 PM I am tired of looking around PSU with 6x or more gpu connector. There seems to be second PSU can easily be turned on using paperclip method. Is that how most miners do it? 3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu.I am seeming to have problem with this. AFter running about 7-8 hours suddenly whole thing just turned off. Both PSU wont power on. Waited about 5 minutes and hacked PSU will now turn on as if it came out of some sort of shock. The main PSU still not powering on. I hope I did not fry something, either way it is load of extra work. I have never seen this during 4-5 months operation. I can plug in some SATA HDD to give some dummy load, but forgot it is 12v or 5v, too lazy to get up and check it while I am typing. :) Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: WaveRiderx on February 17, 2018, 08:17:15 PM I used to do the paperclip method but I didn't like not being able to power cycle half of the GPUs on remote reboot when I needed to, it would often create issues. So I'm using the dual psu cables now and it's working much better.
Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: pickleburglar on February 17, 2018, 08:23:21 PM add2psu is ridiculously expensive, its just 2 connectors and a relay, any $2 non-brand version from china will do
Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: ggbtctalk000 on February 17, 2018, 09:05:46 PM I am tired of looking around PSU with 6x or more gpu connector. There seems to be second PSU can easily be turned on using paperclip method. Is that how most miners do it? 3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu.I am seeming to have problem with this. AFter running about 7-8 hours suddenly whole thing just turned off. Both PSU wont power on. Waited about 5 minutes and hacked PSU will now turn on as if it came out of some sort of shock. The main PSU still not powering on. I hope I did not fry something, either way it is load of extra work. I have never seen this during 4-5 months operation. I can plug in some SATA HDD to give some dummy load, but forgot it is 12v or 5v, too lazy to get up and check it while I am typing. :) DId some t-shooting, it appears motherboard has been shot, h81 btc pro. It wont power up or power up momentarily then will shut off. One of the small PSU looks OK, I am ruling out bigger power supply been damaged but not tested yet. :( Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: Agozyen on February 18, 2018, 03:37:27 AM https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811984007&ignorebbr=1
I use these. Good for redundancy and I don't have to worry about kludgy paperclip solutions, although I did use that method back when I started mining. Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: leowonderful on February 18, 2018, 03:44:09 AM I've always used the paperclip method since I began mining and rarely ran into issues with it, except for some times when I didn't fit the clips in all the way. It's cheap and simple, adequate for most of your needs unless you want something that looks neater, which is where the ATX splitter comes in.
Title: Re: for 2X PSU are you doing paperclip method? Post by: ViperGuyMike on February 18, 2018, 05:55:41 PM When it only costs like $12 for the adapter cable, why in the world would you use a paperclip? I ordered 2 cables just in case and it was like $18 shipped. They work great and I haven't had any issues running an 850watt and 1000watt PSU's together.
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