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Title: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: Abdussamad on September 19, 2013, 09:01:42 AM My server was having problems accessing the APIs of various bitcoin related sites. It turned out it was because of a problem with cloudflare in the new york area:
https://twitter.com/CloudFlareSys/status/380559761470533632 Bitcoin websites are way too dependent on cloudflare. Almost all of the major sites are using it: bitstamp.net btc-e.com blockchain.info blockexplorer.com bitpay.com coinbase.com campbx.com For a currency that aims to be decentralized this is way too much centralization. What do you guys think? Title: Re: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on September 19, 2013, 09:02:10 AM Absolutely. Some sites that value the privacy and security of their users doesn't use cloudflare through ;)
Title: Re: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: Abdussamad on September 19, 2013, 09:06:01 AM Absolutely. Some sites that value the privacy and security of their users doesn't use cloudflare through ;) Mt. Gox being the biggest example. IF cloud flare goes down Mt. Gox is all that will be left! edit: Oh I guess you are referring to your own sites. Title: Re: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: Jace on September 19, 2013, 09:17:14 AM Bitcoin websites are way too dependent on cloudflare. What? "Bitcoin websites?" You mean random independent 3rd party companies, which just so happen to offer Bitcoin-related services.Quote For a currency that aims to be decentralized this is way too much centralization. The websites you mentioned (or any website for that matter) are not at all involved in or necessary for this currency whatsoever. Payments, mining, wallets, transaction verification, i.e. all the essentials are 100% decentralized. Those random websites you mentioned have nothing to do with the Bitcoin system itself. However, if you are too exchange-minded (not necessary for normal Bitcoin usage at all, but for argument's sake) then the conclusion must be that the Euro and Dollar are too cloudflare-dependent. Title: Re: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: empoweoqwj on September 19, 2013, 09:18:06 AM My server was having problems accessing the APIs of various bitcoin related sites. It turned out it was because of a problem with cloudflare in the new york area: https://twitter.com/CloudFlareSys/status/380559761470533632 Bitcoin websites are way too dependent on cloudflare. Almost all of the major sites are using it: bitstamp.net btc-e.com blockchain.info blockexplorer.com bitpay.com coinbase.com campbx.com For a currency that aims to be decentralized this is way too much centralization. What do you guys think? What do you want them to use? Or just let them get DDOS'd? Title: Re: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: Lethos on September 19, 2013, 09:32:55 AM I personally think Cloudflare is a terrible method of DDOS (any kind of attack really) prevention, they might of started off with that being their goal, but they veered of course when they realised their methods were actually quiet good at caching. Their security aspects of their service are laughable now, you are better off keeping those in house, with your own servers with dedicated (server) resources assigned to it.
If you use it just for it's caching, that fine, but I just laugh if anyone tries to convince me if it's good to prevent attacks on their servers. Title: Re: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: greyhawk on September 19, 2013, 09:41:40 AM Bitcoin websites are way too dependent on the internet. Almost all of the major sites are using it:
bitstamp.net btc-e.com blockchain.info blockexplorer.com bitpay.com coinbase.com campbx.com For a currency that aims to be decentralized this is way too much centralization. Title: Re: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: empoweoqwj on September 19, 2013, 09:58:11 AM Bitcoin websites are way too dependent on the internet. Almost all of the major sites are using it: bitstamp.net btc-e.com blockchain.info blockexplorer.com bitpay.com coinbase.com campbx.com For a currency that aims to be decentralized this is way too much centralization. ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: madmadmax on September 19, 2013, 10:08:18 AM Bitcoin websites are way too dependent on the internet. Almost all of the major sites are using it: bitstamp.net btc-e.com blockchain.info blockexplorer.com bitpay.com coinbase.com campbx.com For a currency that aims to be decentralized this is way too much centralization. We at mtgox still use the legacy HTML over pigeon protocol, you can ping us if the internet is offline. You release a pigeon and it is back by the next summer (warning, rates may be slightly not up-to-date). Title: Re: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: greyhawk on September 19, 2013, 10:09:20 AM Bitcoin websites are way too dependent on the internet. Almost all of the major sites are using it: bitstamp.net btc-e.com blockchain.info blockexplorer.com bitpay.com coinbase.com campbx.com For a currency that aims to be decentralized this is way too much centralization. We at mtgox still use the legacy HTML over pigeon protocol, you can ping us if the internet is offline. You release a pigeon and he is back by the next summer. Do you have an adress for the pigeon to fly to or do I need to send in a postcard to Google Inc. to find out? Title: Re: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: madmadmax on September 19, 2013, 10:15:32 AM Do you have an adress for the pigeon to fly to or do I need to send in a postcard to Google Inc. to find out? You need to send a postcard to Apple ONLY from the newest iOS 7. Title: Re: Bitcoin websites too dependent on cloudflare Post by: bitpop on September 19, 2013, 01:36:57 PM Please switch to incapsula so much better! !
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