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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: Minus7point5 on February 19, 2018, 07:51:22 AM



Title: 5 dimes, BetDSI, Bookmaker, Bovado, SportBet, Sportsbook, William Hill....
Post by: Minus7point5 on February 19, 2018, 07:51:22 AM
Is there a Bitcoin sportsbook that gets their odds from any of these fiat sites?
It seems that most of them get their odds from Pinnacle, which is often the last to release odds.

Thank you!


Title: Re: 5 dimes, BetDSI, Bookmaker, Bovado, SportBet, Sportsbook, William Hill....
Post by: Minus7point5 on February 20, 2018, 08:23:38 PM
Bump..


Title: Re: 5 dimes, BetDSI, Bookmaker, Bovado, SportBet, Sportsbook, William Hill....
Post by: SyGambler on February 20, 2018, 08:41:14 PM
Is there a Bitcoin sportsbook that gets their odds from any of these fiat sites?
It seems that most of them get their odds from Pinnacle, which is often the last to release odds.

Thank you!

AFAIK no , as you said mainly they take the odds from pinnacle especially in bitcoinrush and fairlay the odds are almost always the same
not sure if you know but you can use 5 dimes with bitcoin and as their support said to me they don't ask for ID in case of bitcoin transactions

also you may want to check asianconnect , they have a site called 9wickets and that site is basically the asian betfair


Title: Re: 5 dimes, BetDSI, Bookmaker, Bovado, SportBet, Sportsbook, William Hill....
Post by: Easternbloc on February 20, 2018, 10:23:41 PM
Is there a Bitcoin sportsbook that gets their odds from any of these fiat sites?
It seems that most of them get their odds from Pinnacle, which is often the last to release odds.

Thank you!

Hi, the reason most guys use Pinnacle is because the API is so readily available but they don't quote prices early because the other asian bookies don't either because professional gamblers don't make early bets but only generally, in soccer, when the team lineups appear. Hope this helps.


Title: Re: 5 dimes, BetDSI, Bookmaker, Bovado, SportBet, Sportsbook, William Hill....
Post by: Samarkand on February 21, 2018, 10:17:36 AM
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Hi, the reason most guys use Pinnacle is because the API is so readily available but they don't quote prices early because the other asian bookies don't either because professional gamblers don't make early bets but only generally, in soccer, when the team lineups appear. Hope this helps.

I think that the availability of the team lineups is only a subordinate reason.
The major reason why professional gamblers make late bets close to kick-off
is that the limits are way higher.

E.g. you could easily place 10x your stake if you wait to place a bet for a Saturday
English Premier League game until 1 hour before kick-off compared to placing
the bet right now (3-4 days in advance).


Title: Re: 5 dimes, BetDSI, Bookmaker, Bovado, SportBet, Sportsbook, William Hill....
Post by: Easternbloc on February 22, 2018, 06:43:00 PM
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Hi, the reason most guys use Pinnacle is because the API is so readily available but they don't quote prices early because the other asian bookies don't either because professional gamblers don't make early bets but only generally, in soccer, when the team lineups appear. Hope this helps.

I think that the availability of the team lineups is only a subordinate reason.
The major reason why professional gamblers make late bets close to kick-off
is that the limits are way higher.

E.g. you could easily place 10x your stake if you wait to place a bet for a Saturday
English Premier League game until 1 hour before kick-off compared to placing
the bet right now (3-4 days in advance).
Hi Smarakland, the limits are way higher exactly because the team lineups are announced so the biggest variables have been taken into account for the outcome of the match. In asia it is called the "opening" price and the last price before kick off is called "the closing" price. The best syndicate football models are now based upon ranking of players in a football match and poisson distribution is created from this and their own price created. This can only happen once the official line-up has been announced. Asia throws open their limits around this time on their own inferred probability - which is generally a little outside the best syndicate model - and they will happily lose money to the syndicates for this information. As long as the syndicates only takes about 95/96% efficiency at that opening price the asian bookies can then alter their lines and still make a killing v all the other bets they take that are from bad gamblers. They then have a solid closing price to start their in-play model, which is important.


Title: Re: 5 dimes, BetDSI, Bookmaker, Bovado, SportBet, Sportsbook, William Hill....
Post by: Lionidas on February 23, 2018, 02:13:48 AM
I did hear one time a chat session on one of those sportsbooks, the support person saying they get their odds from a certain odds maker but would not disclose who this was.
Are they not obligated to let you know if you are preevy to ask them and want to know who they are getting the odds from, since you are using their site in the first place and are using their supplied odds. :-\


Title: Re: 5 dimes, BetDSI, Bookmaker, Bovado, SportBet, Sportsbook, William Hill....
Post by: actmyname on February 23, 2018, 10:54:16 AM
heir support said to me they don't ask for ID in case of bitcoin transactions
You actually do need to do their KYC to withdraw your funds. To deposit, of course, it's not necessary. However, once they have to pay up...


Title: Re: 5 dimes, BetDSI, Bookmaker, Bovado, SportBet, Sportsbook, William Hill....
Post by: krach on February 23, 2018, 11:12:21 AM
You will need to kyc , passport, pictures of you holding it, maybe have them call you ect , and also wait sometimes a week to get a withdraw, they all do have good repuations but just keep that in mind.