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Title: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: webcoincash on February 20, 2018, 06:15:10 AM
Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Perhaps all this is possible.
At the moment, the cost of the crypto currency has fallen, complexity is increasing, and electricity consumption is not changing, but is growing.
We have developed a project to reduce power consumption, in some cases, generally go to 0.
Write your suggestions or suggestions may be useful in refining the equipment.
The urgency of this revision will be for those who live in houses with a gas or electric boiler.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: BazsiBazsi on February 20, 2018, 06:21:09 AM
What are you talking about? Hacking the electric meter on your house?


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: ViperGuyMike on February 20, 2018, 06:31:08 AM
What are you talking about? Hacking the electric meter on your house?
lol, hopefully he is talking about solar or something...


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: manji on February 20, 2018, 06:35:56 AM
You must write on the WHITEPAPER, how that tools working to reduce an electricity. How the someone trust you,if your tools never tested and shown to the public.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: gomeZLTC on February 20, 2018, 12:26:42 PM
I didn't get it, your sort explanations didn't clear enough for me. so, even you didn't know what kind equipment that wants to build? or what? Replacing electricity source with another one? if the last I'm asking is what you mean, we need stable voltage to keep our hardware safe.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: treanski on February 20, 2018, 12:42:43 PM
maybe he is talking about fusion power? free energy for the world! -.-  ??? ;D


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: NoxX on February 20, 2018, 01:00:23 PM
yes, please do tell us how you broke the laws of physics by reducing energy costs to 0  ::)  ::)  ::)


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: webcoincash on February 20, 2018, 03:42:18 PM
Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Perhaps all this is possible.
At the moment, the cost of the crypto currency has fallen, complexity is increasing, and electricity consumption is not changing, but is growing.
We have developed a project to reduce power consumption, in some cases, generally go to 0.
Write your suggestions or suggestions may be useful in refining the equipment.
The urgency of this revision will be for those who live in houses with a gas or electric boiler.

We do not raise funds for release, but we want to hear opinions and reasoning. Briefly, the heat emitted by the chips is transferred to the heat carrier, which can be any. You can supply the heating pipes in the house. This is relevant for homes with gas or electric boiler.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: ViperGuy on February 20, 2018, 03:49:29 PM
Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Perhaps all this is possible.
At the moment, the cost of the crypto currency has fallen, complexity is increasing, and electricity consumption is not changing, but is growing.
We have developed a project to reduce power consumption, in some cases, generally go to 0.
Write your suggestions or suggestions may be useful in refining the equipment.
The urgency of this revision will be for those who live in houses with a gas or electric boiler.

We do not raise funds for release, but we want to hear opinions and reasoning. Briefly, the heat emitted by the chips is transferred to the heat carrier, which can be any. You can supply the heating pipes in the house. This is relevant for homes with gas or electric boiler.

Sorry dude, "zero-point energy" is not possible. And if you found a solution to reclaim 100% of heat loss, you need to publish it to an energy/physics group and claim you Nobel prize money.
 :D


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: huntingthesnark on February 20, 2018, 03:59:14 PM
Yeah, thermodynamics is not so easily cheated. Using a heat exchanger to recoup some of the costs would work, minus losses, although only plausible for larger outfits, I'd imagine.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: webcoincash on February 20, 2018, 04:09:57 PM
Yeah, thermodynamics is not so easily cheated. Using a heat exchanger to recoup some of the costs would work, minus losses, although only plausible for larger outfits, I'd imagine.
Loss of course there is, but the reduction in electricity costs is significant.
Earnings, there is no noise, dust.
At home it's warm


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: webcoincash on February 20, 2018, 04:13:26 PM
Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Perhaps all this is possible.
At the moment, the cost of the crypto currency has fallen, complexity is increasing, and electricity consumption is not changing, but is growing.
We have developed a project to reduce power consumption, in some cases, generally go to 0.
Write your suggestions or suggestions may be useful in refining the equipment.
The urgency of this revision will be for those who live in houses with a gas or electric boiler.
Apply heat from the ashki almost everywhere, from home to greenhouses.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: webcoincash on February 21, 2018, 05:22:15 AM
Yeah, thermodynamics is not so easily cheated. Using a heat exchanger to recoup some of the costs would work, minus losses, although only plausible for larger outfits, I'd imagine.
A prototype of equipment will be ready soon.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: MarkAz on February 21, 2018, 06:23:02 AM
This doesn't sound like zero point nonsense - but it isn't anything new either.  What it sounds like he's talking about is just a liquid cooling setup, where you're using your household heating demands as your radiator... I built a bunch of S5's back in the day liquid cooled with that kit from China, and when it got cold it was like a free heater, since you're 'waste' heat is being used to heat your home.  Of course, I live in the desert, so this sort of application is more for novelty than practicality - but if you lived in a cold climate, and had something like radiant floors or baseboard heating, then it would probably be pretty cool.

As I said, other places have tried to do similar things in the past - the problem in most cases is the offset in savings just isn't that substantial - if you spend $100 to heat your home per month, then that's all you're going to save.  Sure, you'll get extra heat for free, but unless you want to live in a sauna you'll probably just end up venting it outdoor anyway.  Here's one of the more recent examples of this:

https://www.curbed.com/2017/11/9/16619032/bitcoin-mining-heat-homes-siberia-russia

Either way, it will be interesting to see what their implementation looks like... At worse it will be another liquid cooling option for people interested in those - either for the heat displacement benefits, or the noise benefit.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: webcoincash on February 21, 2018, 08:57:57 AM
This doesn't sound like zero point nonsense - but it isn't anything new either.  What it sounds like he's talking about is just a liquid cooling setup, where you're using your household heating demands as your radiator... I built a bunch of S5's back in the day liquid cooled with that kit from China, and when it got cold it was like a free heater, since you're 'waste' heat is being used to heat your home.  Of course, I live in the desert, so this sort of application is more for novelty than practicality - but if you lived in a cold climate, and had something like radiant floors or baseboard heating, then it would probably be pretty cool.

As I said, other places have tried to do similar things in the past - the problem in most cases is the offset in savings just isn't that substantial - if you spend $100 to heat your home per month, then that's all you're going to save.  Sure, you'll get extra heat for free, but unless you want to live in a sauna you'll probably just end up venting it outdoor anyway.  Here's one of the more recent examples of this:

https://www.curbed.com/2017/11/9/16619032/bitcoin-mining-heat-homes-siberia-russia

Either way, it will be interesting to see what their implementation looks like... At worse it will be another liquid cooling option for people interested in those - either for the heat displacement benefits, or the noise benefit.

Yes, this is for a pro-global climate.
But there is an opportunity to use in hot countries.
Electricity will not be saved, but there will be no dust and noise.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: NoxX on February 21, 2018, 09:39:52 AM
Well if you want to use excess heat to heat water / a house, that is nothing new. There is even a company that does that, i forgot their name, but they put servers in your house and pay for part of the electricity, and in exchange you get the heat.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: MarkAz on February 22, 2018, 07:22:57 AM
Yes, this is for a pro-global climate.
But there is an opportunity to use in hot countries.
Electricity will not be saved, but there will be no dust and noise.

I'd love to hear what ideas you have for hot climates - last summer it got up to almost 50c (120f), but thankfully since it's the desert evap works wonders.  I'm not aware of anything that is efficient at converting heat into cold short of something like an ammonia loop, but I tend to limit my DIY adventures to things that don't use lethal gas if you screw up.  ;)  The biggest issue that I'm aware of with something like that is that the heat-density of mining gear isn't high enough to make it cost effective - but of course if you were running a chiller loop or something similar, then it would be an option.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: webcoincash on February 22, 2018, 07:27:44 AM
Well if you want to use excess heat to heat water / a house, that is nothing new. There is even a company that does that, i forgot their name, but they put servers in your house and pay for part of the electricity, and in exchange you get the heat.

Consider differently
a person has several asics they work at home, there are certain costs for electricity.
We put our cooling system, we feed into the heating system.
It gets rid of noise, dust.
We get heat in the house.
The costs of heating water for heating are immediately removed.
This is of course seasonal, in the warm period, a cooling radium


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: webcoincash on February 22, 2018, 07:31:55 AM
Yes, this is for a pro-global climate.
But there is an opportunity to use in hot countries.
Electricity will not be saved, but there will be no dust and noise.

I'd love to hear what ideas you have for hot climates - last summer it got up to almost 50c (120f), but thankfully since it's the desert evap works wonders.  I'm not aware of anything that is efficient at converting heat into cold short of something like an ammonia loop, but I tend to limit my DIY adventures to things that don't use lethal gas if you screw up.  ;)  The biggest issue that I'm aware of with something like that is that the heat-density of mining gear isn't high enough to make it cost effective - but of course if you were running a chiller loop or something similar, then it would be an option.

For a hot climate, there is one finalization, but not yet tested.


Title: Re: Significant reduction in electricity costs for asics.
Post by: Master One on February 22, 2018, 07:32:47 AM
When I'm going to start over building a new house, I'm integrating a mining room into the whole design to be able to reuse the heat as much as possible. Other than that, it's solar & the cheapest possible power provider, but that's pretty much it. Power never is for free, if you think anything else you are delusional. All you can do is to optimize the overall design.