Title: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: wantmyrefund on September 21, 2013, 03:04:37 PM This thread is to document the state of Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. Avalon chip refunds in a convenient list all in one place. I am putting this list together due to the lack of communication or confirmation over the past few weeks, with some people receiving refunds while others receive no information.
To participate if you have requested a refund, please post in the thread or PM me this information: * Quantity of chips (ex: 256) * Batches (ex: Batches 2 & 3 ) * Date refund was requested * Date refund was received (empty if not received) * If order was for "Chips-only" or "K16 Assembly" [UPDATED] - Include if order was for chips only or if the order included K16 boards and assembly For all dates, please use the international friendly date format: 17-Jan-2013 Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: wantmyrefund on September 21, 2013, 03:11:22 PM Last updated: 30-Sep-2013
The list, sorted by refund request date:
Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: xjack on September 21, 2013, 05:56:47 PM 34 Chips
Batch 6 Requested Refund 11-Sept-2013 Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: lithiumfinn on September 21, 2013, 07:15:40 PM 16 chips from batch 5.
I requested on 9/3 and got an email to redo my signing on the 12th. Refund came through on the 19th. Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: mwm4bcf on September 21, 2013, 07:30:35 PM 232 chips Batch 4 Requested refund 14-Sep-2013 No refund or reply yet Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: r3animation on September 22, 2013, 05:24:57 AM 90 chips
Batch 2 14 Sept No refund yet Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: sprint347 on September 22, 2013, 06:48:32 AM 16 chips
Batch 6 Requested refund 12-Sep-2013 (resent 22-Sep) No refund or reply yet Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: ScaryHash on September 22, 2013, 05:07:12 PM ****deleted****
Thanks, but take me off the list. Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: wrenchmonkey on September 22, 2013, 05:44:53 PM Batch 4.
Refund request re-submitted (His scripts failed to authenticate my signature on previous attempt; probably my fault) 9/11/2013. 75 chips. No refund or response. Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: rocks on September 23, 2013, 11:22:30 PM 485 chips
Batch 3 & 4 9 Sept & again on 14 Sept after receiving an email that the authenticate did not work (I did the signature incorrect the first time) Purchased K16 assembly & testing No refund or reply yet Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: alexuk on September 24, 2013, 07:53:05 AM batch 2
100 chips requested 23rd sept, no email or refund yet. Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: xjack on September 24, 2013, 10:56:51 AM 34 Chips Batch 6 Requested Refund 11-Sept-2013 Refund received 24-Sept-2013 Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: dobber on September 24, 2013, 11:40:21 AM 32 chips
Batch 3 Refund request 13 Sep Refund received 24 Sep Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: wrenchmonkey on September 24, 2013, 07:39:55 PM Batch 4. Refund request re-submitted (His scripts failed to authenticate my signature on previous attempt; probably my fault) 9/11/2013. 75 chips. No refund or response. Received my partial refund for my chips today. Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: sprint347 on September 24, 2013, 10:39:40 PM 16 chips Batch 6 Requested refund 12-Sep-2013 (resent 22-Sep) No refund or reply yet still nothing. also awaiting refund on K16 and international freight. never again. Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: sprint347 on September 26, 2013, 11:55:40 AM 16 chips Batch 6 Requested refund 12-Sep-2013 (resent 22-Sep) No refund or reply yet still nothing. also awaiting refund on K16 and international freight. never again. still nothing Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: RiseOfTH on September 28, 2013, 10:19:36 PM 64 chips from batch 5 with full assembly
Chip refund requested on 12th September and received on 24th September Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: iluvpcs on September 28, 2013, 11:12:41 PM 80
4 9/22 Not received Chips + Assembly Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: bigbeninlondon on September 29, 2013, 02:09:07 PM * Quantity of chips (ex: 256)
41 * Batches (ex: Batches 2 & 3 ) Batches 3 & 5 * Date refund was requested 08-Sep-2013 * Date refund was received (empty if not received) 20-Sep-2013 * If order was for "Chips-only" or "K16 Assembly" K16 Assembly Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: BitHav on September 30, 2013, 10:12:53 PM 296 chips
Batch 5 9/12/2013 Not received Chips only Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: r3animation on September 30, 2013, 10:16:34 PM Refunded. :) I'm already in the table in the 2nd post.
30/9/2013. Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: sprint347 on September 30, 2013, 10:48:31 PM Chip refund received - 1.3072BTC
Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: mwm4bcf on September 30, 2013, 10:54:44 PM 232 chips Batch 4 Requested refund 14-Sep-2013 No refund or reply yet Refund for chips arrived this morning, Sep 30th. Thanks much, Steamboat! Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: rocks on October 01, 2013, 12:25:36 AM 485 chips Batch 3 & 4 9 Sept & again on 14 Sept after receiving an email that the authenticate did not work (I did the signature incorrect the first time) Purchased K16 assembly & testing No refund or reply yet Refund for chips portion received today. Sad that the amount refunded is significantly more than a K16 could ever mine over it's lifetime, even assuming free assembly and electricity... Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: KS on October 01, 2013, 12:45:38 AM 904 chips
batch 4 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09) 54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off. Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: wantmyrefund on October 01, 2013, 05:04:56 PM Looks like a bunch more have been coming in.
If you posted on this list and received a refund, please make sure to communicate that. A note on the refund order, it seems SB is refunding in order of requests. If you use rocks and sprint347's second refund request date (due to bad invalid signitures on the first attempt) then the order seems to be FIFO. Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: r3animation on October 01, 2013, 06:04:13 PM Forgot to mention my refund was chips only. Assembly has not been refunded.
I kinda forgot did SB mention anything about refunds for assembly? Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: wantmyrefund on October 01, 2013, 07:21:50 PM Forgot to mention my refund was chips only. Assembly has not been refunded. I kinda forgot did SB mention anything about refunds for assembly? He said 25% at some point for assembly and then maybe a little more if he is able to find other uses for the parts. Other batch providers offered 50% upfront with another 20% (for 70% total) after they used the parts for other assembly services, such as bitfury. Other batch providers also offered 100% chip refund while SB only provided 95%, keeping 5% ($25,000) for his time to manage the group buy, which seems excessive. SB has provided no updates on the assembly refund. He stated that he put in a lot of time and effort. Personally I think SB is trying to keep his profit on the failed project by charging for unfulfiled services, which is very much plainly illegal and he can not do this. The cost structure of the assembly servies was: $35 - Parts $60 - Assembly of K16 board only $28.5 - Parts for full unit (i.e. heatsinks, fans, power cables, etc) $10 - Assembly of full unit / Testing Everyone agrees that parts can not be fully refunded, but the other aspects of assembly have not been performed and should be largly recoverable, but SB does not seem to be willing to talk about this. It also makes no sense that the 25% refund is the same offered for all assembly services. Personally, I think SB is hoping that he will be able to do a gen2 or bitfury or other ASIC chip assembly, and he is holding onto everyone's money until he is able to work this out. This is also plainly illegal. Title: Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. refund tracking thread Post by: Bakal on October 02, 2013, 01:05:12 AM * Quantity of chips (ex: 256) : 34 chips * Batches (ex: Batches 2 & 3 ) : Batch 4 * Date refund was requested: Sep 22 2013 * Date refund was received (empty if not received): hoping for a miracle * If order was for "Chips-only" or "K16 Assembly" : 2 K16, tested, hosted |