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Title: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: flound1129 on September 22, 2013, 09:25:08 PM
Do not deposit any digital currencies into PhenixEx.com.  They are currently not servicing BTC withdrawals and some deposits are not showing up either.  I myself have been waiting over 5 days for a BTC withdrawal and many others are in the same boat.

UPDATE: At this point I believe a scammer tag is warranted for the involved parties.  How do we go about requesting this?


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Tranz on September 22, 2013, 10:52:45 PM
True I am out .28 BTC


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: NWO on September 23, 2013, 12:01:37 PM
It looks like the devs have gone running, nothing is working out for them with the PXC price crashing, UNOCS and the shady exchange.

If you still have PXC or coins on phenixex I suggest you get out now before the storm arrives!


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Bitcoin Scammer on September 23, 2013, 03:58:43 PM
Such crap, if there is not a huge objection I think these folks should be investigated.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: flound1129 on September 23, 2013, 05:08:18 PM
I think at least a scam warning is warranted on their posts at the moment so new people don't see it and deposit funds thinking that everything is OK.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Tomatocage on September 23, 2013, 05:17:27 PM
Link to the user profiles of those involved with PhenixEx?


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: MaGNeT on September 23, 2013, 05:35:45 PM
Link to the user profiles of those involved with PhenixEx?

I did PR and support for PhenixCoin / PhenixEx.

Not sure what the status for PhenixEx is right now, can't contact the devs atm.

I have 1.288 BTC stuck in a withdrawal for over a week.

Hope it gets sorted.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Tomatocage on September 23, 2013, 05:41:42 PM
User profile links?


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: torzsy on September 23, 2013, 05:49:43 PM
I also did some PR for PXC, operated a pool for the coin. I could withdraw my coins, however it was below 1 BTC and 10 LTC. Only small amount left in balance there.



Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Tomatocage on September 23, 2013, 06:08:28 PM
Can anybody provide the user profile links of the devs who have bailed?


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: DiamondCardz on September 23, 2013, 07:29:07 PM
/me sighs

I saw this coming from a mile away.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: codegnome on September 23, 2013, 08:19:11 PM
Waiting 2 days for BTC withdrawal. Scam for sure it seems. Please tag so others do not fall victim.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: pgbit on September 23, 2013, 10:38:08 PM
Waiting 2 days for BTC withdrawal. Scam for sure it seems. Please tag so others do not fall victim.
I removed coins today. Admittedly a tiny amount, with no problem.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: portice on September 23, 2013, 11:22:40 PM
Few coins on their poker site which closed down with no warning as well on my end


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Bitcoin Scammer on September 24, 2013, 05:10:05 AM
I added these guys to bitcoinscammers.com and relayed your msg.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: pgbit on September 24, 2013, 08:13:39 PM
Waiting 2 days for BTC withdrawal. Scam for sure it seems. Please tag so others do not fall victim.
I removed coins today. Admittedly a tiny amount, with no problem.
Correction, none received "transaction processing" after 24 hours


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: flound1129 on September 24, 2013, 08:46:34 PM
Waiting 2 days for BTC withdrawal. Scam for sure it seems. Please tag so others do not fall victim.
I removed coins today. Admittedly a tiny amount, with no problem.
Correction, none received "transaction processing" after 24 hours

It's been almost a week for me.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: flound1129 on September 29, 2013, 04:28:22 AM
Site now says "PhenixEx is now closed. Please send all refund requests to phenixexrefunds at gmail.com, please include your username and refund requested."

Anyone requested or received any refunds yet?


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: markn on September 29, 2013, 10:36:34 AM
Site now says "PhenixEx is now closed. Please send all refund requests to phenixexrefunds at gmail.com, please include your username and refund requested."

Anyone requested or received any refunds yet?

I didnot receive anything yet.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Joerii on October 10, 2013, 11:44:32 PM
I'm still waiting for 9.9 BTC and 16k WDC. That's  12.28 BTC, worth 1243.13 euro.

My BTC can be send to the following adres : 15bRKXbZbQQJKRa7mR5XJ131WrfxxcxxFT
WDC :                                                    WbtPFEidRYGCX7vH7DkhazGcDAJmHftEit

Payment in Euro's to my paypal account is also acceptable. My paypal account is known by John.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: fuggedit on October 11, 2013, 06:01:12 PM
Bravo!!!! Bout time we see someone with some balls stick up to these scamming f$%ks. Hopefully they read this and shit their pants and return the money to those of us who got gypped. If not, well, sucks to be them...


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: hendo420 on October 12, 2013, 01:30:50 PM
I know its not much, but its not the amount that troubles me.

PhenixEx.com owes me
0.22176913BTC

bitcoin address
156HoZbqmDsAqTcESuSQAMWz9feJh1xmtc


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Joerii on October 12, 2013, 10:22:20 PM
Everybody, please post the ammount of your  coins that are still on PhenixEx in this thread, so we have it all in one place.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Olegcho on October 12, 2013, 10:36:28 PM
BTC address   1B9nT6Y65U4q15QzuhwWCkRYjU7YW8ApSj
0.32480000    BTC
+ ~0.12 BTC from canceled orders (i can't see exact amount)


LTC address   LeDuZK74FJC4sMxhUVLT1jWwkzs261A8ov
82.84000000 LTC


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Nolo on October 12, 2013, 10:38:34 PM
I am owed just under 100LTC.  Actual amount is 99.75 LTC that I am owed from this exchange. 


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Joerii on October 12, 2013, 11:32:14 PM
We found proof that Mike saw the premine as his personal property, eventhough he always said it was for promotional purposes only.

http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2013/07/17#l1374048699 scroll down to 08.13 or do a search for iamatrix.

Quote
08:09   iamatrix   I play in Alt coins.. then convert to BTC
08:10   allban   yeah did like 60% profit on some dgc couple of days ago, would have been more if i didnt get scammed at the time to load up some coin hehe
08:10   iamatrix   lol.. have you played with PXC?
08:11   allban   i put the btc back in btc-e when the rally began on pxc/xmp :/
08:11   allban   and now 100% fiat on btc-e
08:11   iamatrix   its gonna happen again monday/tuesday
08:11   iamatrix   PXC is mine
08:11   allban   thinking of re-buying some 50k+ alphacoin also, should not be much lower, so only upside
08:12   iamatrix   seen this? http://www.coindesk.com/feathercoin-phenixcoin-and-worldcoin-partner-to-form-unocs-the-united-ope...
08:12   allban   hehe have 27.8 pxc from multipool i see now
08:12   iamatrix   I have 800K ;)

This was recorded 7/17. He felt entitled to profit. This is probably why he has no problems at all with taking our money, he feels like he deserves it. This is how people  anti-social personality disorders think.

I very much regret not digging into his background  a little bit more before trusting him and John with so much of my money, time and  energy. 6 months and 5k euro down the drain.

But I learned a lot from it ;)


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: wedge on October 13, 2013, 12:18:48 AM
They owe me 103,779.14064843 SXC

They did return my BTC, although it was a very trivial amount.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Tranz on October 13, 2013, 12:43:51 AM
~.27btc


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: LittleDigger on October 13, 2013, 02:33:18 AM
1 BTC...


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: zackclark70 on October 13, 2013, 08:24:52 AM
just over 500,000,000 ADT and a small amount of other coins will update asap


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: sumantso on October 13, 2013, 11:39:36 AM
0.0018733 BTC
8000 SXC

BTC: 1NmWTFjFgxd9jPu7fVcZ6YoZ53BHSXL2hr
SXC: SLDMAZRJy4QU2EmWfw8Rdcnu46pqL4g29c
Cryptsy tradekey: 285891dce6538716b917c7d42c1fe7c00d4fb1c

After losing almost 0.25 BTC worth of PXCs at coins-e I had decided not to use any more dodgy exchanges. But PhenixEx was the only one trading SXC at that time  :(


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: mooc0w on October 15, 2013, 02:21:20 AM
0.34724388 BTC

Address 1K3upBWPsEXgAJismuB9QTkaEqtka5yY3B


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: zackclark70 on October 16, 2013, 10:24:58 PM
bumping


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: digit on October 16, 2013, 10:41:46 PM
I withdrawd most of my coins a week before after my CAPs deposit never showed but this is still what is owed so glad i removed the bulk of my btc/ltc,
what left is not much but thats really beside the point.  after site announce closure, withdrawls not longer work there and stay in pending state :\

BTC 0.00549919   
CAP 14.73801400   + 100 CAP sent to my deposit address but never credited
FRK 0.1
WDC 99.0
CDC 34.925
LTC 0.0190000

edit: Addresses for refund if it ever happens
BTC: 18hMe9SugXD4rVPk8fn6WzVQ5QRu6sEooE
LTC: LRbe5c7mXnoKHLoPefVDN4TmybhMb6vBME
CAP: F4M6W6VoB4gasf4HGKUrAYYw4EGFGZPARh
FRK: FN8yCzastyGhCgPJc3L1yresG9Gu8uSPDk
WDC: WUGisyTreyQYHiGnLyufGixrtMA21vA9EX
CDC: BxEjiovT66AzvYJoQQaY2CLW5quH3K9koe




Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - Scammer tag requested
Post by: flound1129 on October 16, 2013, 10:55:45 PM
I withdrawd most of my coins a week before after my CAPs deposit never showed but this is still what is owed so glad i removed the bulk of my btc/ltc,
what left is not much but thats really beside the point.  after site announce closure, withdrawls not longer work there and stay in pending state :\

BTC 0.00549919   
CAP 14.73801400   + 100 CAP sent to my deposit address but never credited EmrpBBmbZKTdPFihP3QJhpdTa7Gs8DR9Va
FRK 0.1
WDC 99.0
CDC 34.925
LTC 0.0190000

Can we get a scammer tag for the involved parties please?  I believe we've given them plenty of time to refund users.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: Joerii on October 17, 2013, 09:43:29 AM
I don't think they are gonna care at all if they get a scammer tag. They haven't logged in in almost two weeks. After the 22nd I'm going to post their real names and addresses though, so we can name and shame them as well as sue them.
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: flound1129 on October 17, 2013, 03:33:21 PM
I don't think they are gonna care at all if they get a scammer tag. They haven't logged in in almost two weeks. After the 22nd I'm going to post their real names and addresses though, so we can name and shame them as well as sue them.
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.

They'll eventually come back.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: NewLiberty on October 17, 2013, 03:43:44 PM
The last time I had contact with John was more then a week ago. I have his personal phone number. Last time we spoke he promised he would check up on Mike again. I then had a short conversation with Mike on Skype in which he only kept repeating he's working as fast as he can and that I can ask questions via email, using phenixexrefunds@gmail.com.

He has, however, not responded to my emails since. Also, John has changed his phone number, and the email adres he gave me ( john@vincevouyer.com ) is not accepting incoming mail at all.

Both John and Mike are now completely ignoring or actively blocking any attempt for anyone in the crypto world to contact them.

They are trying to hide behind a veil of anonymity. Cowards.

I'm not going to allow them to run away from their responsibilities. Mike messed up in a big way, but the exchange, and all assets concerning it belong to John. So he can't simply blame Mike and get on with his life. Ignoring us does not make the problem go away.

The thing is : I know exactly who they are. Their real names, adresses, everything. So here's my plan :

I'm going to send them a letter by old fashioned airmail, in which I demand the coins to be refunded to their respective owners. I will give them a ten day period in which they get the chance to put the money together, in case Mike ran off with it. If they fail to comply I will then post their full identities here and assist everyone to report them to the authorities.  

To be absolutely clear ; I DO NOT want anyone to threaten them with violence, or have anyone bother their families. Lets keep this civil, but let's get what we deserve.

I'll post the letters tomorrow.

If this is your proposed course of action... You can start by simply posting the relevant jurisdiction so that remote folks can start spinning up their "Small Claims" documents or contacting the local solicitor to them, and then just fill in the details when the rest of the information is made available.

One of the sometimes unfortunate benefits of crypto is that when folks run off, they can move quickly, so attaching illiquid assets with liens and such has to be done with some alacrity and justice tends to be slow at times.

Taking that first step may also be an innocent way to show your seriousness of intent.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: Joerii on October 17, 2013, 03:57:06 PM

Taking that first step may also be an innocent way to show your seriousness of intent.

Good idea.

John lives in New Port Richy, FL.
Mike's in Las Vegas, NV


The letter should be in John's mailbox any time now, by the way.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: wedge on October 17, 2013, 04:00:27 PM
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.

How can we help?


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: Anonylz on October 17, 2013, 11:29:08 PM
0.0018733 BTC
8000 SXC

BTC: 1NmWTFjFgxd9jPu7fVcZ6YoZ53BHSXL2hr
SXC: SLDMAZRJy4QU2EmWfw8Rdcnu46pqL4g29c
Cryptsy tradekey: 285891dce6538716b917c7d42c1fe7c00d4fb1c

After losing almost 0.25 BTC worth of PXCs at coins-e I had decided not to use any more dodgy exchanges. But PhenixEx was the only one trading SXC at that time  :(

I have refunded your 8000 SXC, because I think sex should never be a bad experience. If any of the devs want to donate a refund:S16zpr18SugJcemZQTgzWbMhwpzddnt8ic


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: Joerii on October 18, 2013, 09:11:32 AM
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.

How can we help?

I imagine that John will come to this thread after he reads the leter that I've sent him. Showing willingness to go after him should help. I want him to see that we're not going to let them keep our money. Willingness to sue and willingness to spread the word that he can't be trusted ( and preventing him from scamming others that way ! ) should be a strong insensitive to pay us back, if keeping a clear conscience is not enough reason.

So post about what you are willing to do if we get nothing from him after the deadline runs out.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: NewLiberty on October 18, 2013, 04:18:38 PM
I've a very good law firm in FL.
PM me if you want contact info.

Also, someone (or someones) ought to take the task of writing up a clear, concise and supported "timeline and fact summary" to brief these folks and speed the process.
Preponderance of evidence in civil matters is important.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com
Post by: sumantso on October 20, 2013, 09:07:32 AM
0.0018733 BTC
8000 SXC

BTC: 1NmWTFjFgxd9jPu7fVcZ6YoZ53BHSXL2hr
SXC: SLDMAZRJy4QU2EmWfw8Rdcnu46pqL4g29c
Cryptsy tradekey: 285891dce6538716b917c7d42c1fe7c00d4fb1c

After losing almost 0.25 BTC worth of PXCs at coins-e I had decided not to use any more dodgy exchanges. But PhenixEx was the only one trading SXC at that time  :(

I have refunded your 8000 SXC, because I think sex should never be a bad experience. If any of the devs want to donate a refund:S16zpr18SugJcemZQTgzWbMhwpzddnt8ic

Thanks for that :)

I saw it come in and thought these guys are now refunding. Now I see the scammers are still at large.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: Shallow on October 21, 2013, 12:05:29 PM
Nolo and I are strongly considering starting a civil suite against both of them. Hell, I don't even mind spending money on it if it makes it harder for them to scam again.

How can we help?

I imagine that John will come to this thread after he reads the leter that I've sent him. Showing willingness to go after him should help. I want him to see that we're not going to let them keep our money. Willingness to sue and willingness to spread the word that he can't be trusted ( and preventing him from scamming others that way ! ) should be a strong insensitive to pay us back, if keeping a clear conscience is not enough reason.

So post about what you are willing to do if we get nothing from him after the deadline runs out.
Should be interesting to see what comes of this.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: Joerii on October 21, 2013, 06:15:13 PM
Turns out I grossly over-estimated the US Postal Service. It takes them a FULL WEEK to deliver a first class, certified letter.
According to the tracking info, it's still in the sorting station.

My plan was to allow John a week to get the funds together to pay us back, starting from the moment he got the letter. So I;m thinking about giving him a week from today. What do you guys think ?


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: Nolo on October 21, 2013, 06:40:48 PM
Turns out I grossly over-estimated the US Postal Service. It takes them a FULL WEEK to deliver a first class, certified letter.
According to the tracking info, it's still in the sorting station.

My plan was to allow John a week to get the funds together to pay us back, starting from the moment he got the letter. So I;m thinking about giving him a week from today. What do you guys think ?

I recommend doing that.  That's the correct thing to do. 


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: sumantso on October 21, 2013, 09:10:53 PM
He is probably enjoying the stolen BTCs + the BTCs from premine dump and enjoying the BTC boom.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: Joerii on October 22, 2013, 06:38:49 AM
The status of the tracking now says " NOTICE LEFT "

Im guessing he wasnt home and USPS left a notice saying he can pick it up at the post office.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: Bitsinmyhead on October 22, 2013, 08:26:03 PM
Also, someone (or someones) ought to take the task of writing up a clear, concise and supported "timeline and fact summary" to brief these folks and speed the process.
Preponderance of evidence in civil matters is important.

Feel free to use whatever you want from my original Phenix scam thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=267301.0

Even though we had some arguments I am truly sorry for all of you who ended up in this mess and I hope you catch these momos.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: Joerii on October 26, 2013, 07:44:49 PM
Mike (Micheal?) Burns
9600 Spanish Steps Lane
Las Vegas

Could be an old adres though. Mike is proving harder to track down due to his common name.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: MaGNeT on October 26, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
waste of time :(


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: Bitsinmyhead on November 01, 2013, 12:39:33 PM
Just making sure this stays here now that Joerii is deleting everything else after this very interesting post was made: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303602.msg3444074#msg3444074

Both John and Mike had enough time to return everyones coins.
Now it's time for some hardcore Google Doxing...

Lo and Behold ! John just contacted me though skype. The coward saw me about to post his personal info and thought he could try to scare me out of it. The thing is ; posting his personal info to warn others of his criminal negligence is not illegal. I'm purely sticking to the facts. He owns PhenixEx, we've sent the coins there and we're not getting them back. How and why is HIS problem, if this would happen to anyone with a sense of pride or ethics that person would pay them back out of his own pocket if need be.

Here's the transcript.

[9:11:17 PM] johnny sampson: Joeri i need a address and phone # for your legal cousel
[9:11:44 PM] Joerii: Hello
[9:11:56 PM] johnny sampson: hello
[9:12:02 PM] Joerii: what a surprise
[9:12:10 PM] Joerii: What do you need that for ?
[9:12:33 PM] johnny sampson: i just seen you posted you were goign to post my personal info.
[9:12:37 PM] Joerii: Did you read the letter I sent you by the way ?
[9:12:43 PM] Joerii: About to, yes
[9:12:49 PM] johnny sampson: never got a letter
[9:12:52 PM] Joerii: But I may not have to since you replied
[9:12:57 PM] Joerii: I sent you one by mail
[9:13:05 PM] Joerii: USPS left you a notice
[9:13:21 PM] Joerii: at your adres in New Port Richy
[9:13:25 PM] johnny sampson: brb let me go look
[9:14:01 PM] Joerii: I've sent it two weeks ago, it arrived a week ago
[9:15:06 PM] johnny sampson: dont see anything from you
[9:15:31 PM] Joerii: Do you still live at Tayport Loop
[9:15:33 PM] Joerii: ?
[9:15:36 PM] johnny sampson: yeap
[9:15:48 PM] johnny sampson: 11453
[9:15:55 PM] Joerii: well it says "notice left" when I track the letter
[9:16:17 PM] johnny sampson: oh it was a cerified letter?
[9:16:41 PM] Joerii: yeah
[9:17:08 PM] johnny sampson: ah ok would not be in my box then. I will have to call usps monday
[9:17:23 PM] Joerii: well I can tell you whats in it, the short version
[9:17:28 PM] johnny sampson: sure
[9:18:51 PM] johnny sampson: brb gonan pour coffee
[9:20:03 PM] Joerii: I'm anrgy and hurt that you chose to simply disapear instead of taking responsibility with what happened with the funds that I trusted you with. You havn;t replies to any of my messages, your phone is disconnected and I get no feedback what so ever. I need my money back but you don't seem motivated to get it back for me, so then I'll have to do whats in my power.
[9:20:23 PM] Joerii: I really saw you as a friend and trusted you but obviously the feeling isn't mutual
[9:21:23 PM] Joerii: Cause this is definitly NOT how I would treat a friend
[9:21:26 PM] johnny sampson: i really should not go into this since this is against what my lawyers says but i will
[9:21:58 PM] Joerii: Your company, your risk. Money disapears, you pay.
[9:22:41 PM] Joerii: So what are you going to do to get our coins back to us ?
[9:23:28 PM] johnny sampson: you need to handle that biz with Mike his servers, he posted publicy he has the coins
[9:23:38 PM] Joerii: Mike is your employee
[9:23:43 PM] Joerii: Mike is ignoring me.
[9:23:54 PM] johnny sampson: Mike dont work for me
[9:23:59 PM] Joerii: BS.
[9:24:36 PM] Joerii: I gave you the benefit of the doubt to many times, and in the end you chose to just run and hide.
[9:25:10 PM] Joerii: I tried calling you a few times but even by phone I cant reach you
[9:25:29 PM] Joerii: was it so hard to check skype for a message ? You must have known my messgae already
[9:25:34 PM] Joerii: you treat me like shit
[9:28:00 PM] johnny sampson: ok then end of conversation i like you Joeri but you fight is with Mike Legally and moraly. Just be sure before you post my info you are not breakign any laws in your country. Mikes servers,Mike publicy admitted he has the coins, Magent even posted were he sold them. Mike does not work for me in any way shape or form. Sorry this tured out this way but i can not and will not be held accountable for someone elses actions.

Google is helpful!

Quote

Identification
Name:   JOHN V CARMICHE
Source:   Florida
Sex:   MALE
Date of Birth:   01/11/1974
Race:   WHITE
Height:   5'8"
Eye Color:   BLUE

Offense
Case Number:   9216344
Offense ID   FL_DOC268479001
Get Available Court Records from Case File# FL_DOC268479001
Offense Date   07/25/1992
Offense   GRAND THEFT,$300 LESS $20,000


Identification
Name:   JOHN V CARMICHE
Source:   Florida
Sex:   MALE
Date of Birth:   01/11/1974
Race:   WHITE
Height:   5'8"
Eye Color:   BLUE

Offense
Case Number:   9309839
Offense ID   FL_DOC268479002
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Offense Date   06/17/1993
Offense   BURG/UNNOC.STRUCT/


Name:   JOHN V CARMICHE
Source:   Florida
Sex:   MALE
Date of Birth:   01/11/1974
Race:   WHITE
Height:   5'8"
Eye Color:   BLUE

Offense
Case Number:   9216344
Offense ID   FL_DOC26847901001
Get Available Court Records from Case File# FL_DOC26847901001
Offense Date   07/26/1992
Offense   LARCENY-OTHER


Name:   JOHN VALERICO CARMICHE
Source:   Florida
Sex:   MALE
Date of Birth:   01/11/1974
Race:   WHITE
Height:   5'10"
Weight:   190LBS
Eye Color:   BLUE
Hair Color:   BLONDE
Address:   3045 49TH ST S #1
Address:   ST PETERSBURG, FL 33706

Offense
Case Number:   16344
Offense ID   FL_PINELLA_01223185_1
Get Available Court Records from Case File# FL_PINELLA_01223185_1
Offense Code   2399
Offense   VOP - GRAND THEFT -- SENT 18MOS DOC CTS
Offense Type   CRC
Disposition Date   09/13/1993
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Name:   JOHN VALERICO CARMICHE
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Source:   Florida
Sex:   MALE
Date of Birth:   01/11/1974
Race:   WHITE
Height:   5'10"
Weight:   190LBS
Eye Color:   BLUE
Hair Color:   BLONDE
Address:   3045 49TH ST S #1
Address:   ST PETERSBURG, FL 33706

Offense
Case Number:   09839
Offense ID   FL_PINELLA_01223185_2
Get Available Court Records from Case File# FL_PINELLA_01223185_2
Offense Code   2299
Offense   BURGLARY-CONVEYANCE---18MOS DOC CTS
Offense Type   CRC
Disposition Date   09/13/1993

Name:   JOHN V CARMICHE
State:   Florida
Plaintiff:   HEATHER A CARMICHE
Filing Type:   SMALL CLAIMS JUDGMENT
Address:   13690 ROOSEVELT BV, CLEARWATER, FL 33762

Filing Date:   02/20/2001
Amount:   $933.00
Type:   SMALL CLAIMS JUDGMENT
Case Number:   000001115FD
Get Available Civil Court Records from Case File# 000001115FD
Court Name:   PINELLAS COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT
Court Address:   315 COURT STREET, CLEARWATER, FL 33755
Court Phone:   (813) 464-3341
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Address History for JOHN V CARMICHE

Address   Phone   First
Reported   Last
Reported   Additional
Reports
2136 MR 18TH AVE SW
LARGO, FL 33774 09/01/2003 07/01/2004 Property Report
19135 US HIGHWAY 19 N , APT G4
CLEARWATER, FL 33764 11/01/2001 07/01/2004 Property Report
2136 18TH AVE SW , APT 1
LARGO, FL 33774 01/01/2001 07/01/2004 Property Report
2136 18TH AVE SW , 1
LARGO, FL 33774 01/01/2001 07/01/2004 Property Report
2862 58TH PL N
SAINT PETERSBURG, FL 33714 12/01/1992 07/01/2004 Property Report
6400 81ST AVE
PINELLAS PARK, FL 33781 (727) 521-1070 11/01/1992 10/01/1994 Property Report
6400 N 81ST AVE AVE
PINELLAS PARK, FL 33781 (727) 521-1070 03/01/1993 10/01/1994 Property Report
2862 58TH NORTH PL
SAINT PETERSBURG, FL 33714 (727) 521-1070 11/01/1992 03/01/1993 Property Report
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Name:   JOHN VALERICO CARMICHE
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Source:   Florida
Sex:   MALE
Date of Birth:   01/11/1974
Race:   WHITE
Height:   5'10"
Weight:   190LBS
Eye Color:   BLUE
Hair Color:   BLONDE
Address:   3045 49TH ST S #1
Address:   ST PETERSBURG, FL 33706

Offense
Case Number:   09839
Offense ID   FL_PINELLA_01223185_2
Get Available Court Records from Case File# FL_PINELLA_01223185_2
Offense Code   2299
Offense   BURGLARY-CONVEYANCE---18MOS DOC CTS
Offense Type   CRC
Disposition Date   09/13/1993


Name:   JOHN V CARMICHE
State:   Florida
Plaintiff:   HEATHER A CARMICHE
Filing Type:   SMALL CLAIMS JUDGMENT
Address:   13690 ROOSEVELT BV, CLEARWATER, FL 33762

Filing Date:   02/20/2001
Amount:   $933.00
Type:   SMALL CLAIMS JUDGMENT
Case Number:   000001115FD
Get Available Civil Court Records from Case File# 000001115FD
Court Name:   PINELLAS COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT
Court Address:   315 COURT STREET, CLEARWATER, FL 33755
Court Phone:   (813) 464-3341





Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: NewLiberty on November 01, 2013, 01:51:56 PM

Also, someone (or someones) ought to take the task of writing up a clear, concise and supported "timeline and fact summary" to brief these folks and speed the process.
Preponderance of evidence in civil matters is important.

Both sides are going to need to do this.  Without it getting legal assistance is going to cost you a lot more as you pay for the time, including the time it takes to explain it all.


Title: Re: Scam Warning - PhenixEx.com - scammer tag requested
Post by: gjpminingco on November 03, 2013, 03:05:29 AM
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