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i just thinking what if those bounty manager of signature campaign gives merit to their participants, it will help each other the bounty will be advertise and the participants can have merit that requires to rank up, its a little bit harder to being ranked up.

yeah but how many they can give? For example you are member and you need 100 merit to be a fullmember, and you are not the only one who joined the campaign, what can a manager do? If you look lately,  a lot of projects running their campaigns as a newbie. So this is just a hope, not much.

why not??he can give merit to anyone but i think bounty manager will not give any merit to other.i will give thanks if i get a merit points from anyone.thank you.

But as i understand so far merit system is limited to specific points to give for any rank available , so it will not work smoothly specially if signature manager participate in many different campaigns . really merit system is very difficult to get higher rank for me i don't know which year i will move to full member because it mainly depend on member evaluation .

well they can eventually give all of them i think we deserve a merit from the bounty managers

its really hard to get rank up because of the merit system, well i pray someone will give me merit though.

Not enough Merit for everybody!
I think we can create a group on facebook and give to get!

I think it's a good idea. Of course it will not be enough to get a higher rank but it will help for sure. But I think the bounty programs/managers will than want more from the members of campaigns. for example higher number of posts...

this is a good idea though everyone wants to rank up but this merit things came. so if you participate in some of bounties and the bounty become success. the manager must give merit to his participant.

but i think the higher moderator will not agree with this idea. because this merit has a different purpose. and that is to make some of the members in this forum will give importance to his post and topics

yeah i agree to you the more active participants will have a bonus merit and more effort and structural post even.

well it will be sad for those member want to rank up.. it is pretty hard to rank up by these days.

Most bounty managers would have negative trust if that would happen. Merits are supposed to be given out only if the post of ones person is decent nad have thoughts and it (quality post).You are just like suggesting people to spam the thread of reports in the bounty thread of ICO and other related subjects.

im in agreement with any proposal that gives hope for us get merit points so we can rank up , this idea i like particularly as the mangers would be in a better position to evaluate post and even assign merit points based on the level of production and knowledge .

I think it’s literally dependant on the campaign manager & what they want to do, they’re running the campaign after all. Totally their choice, I don’t think it should be compulsory but it might encourage those in their campaign to make extra effort to ensure their posts are extra constructive, concise & clear.

This would work only if bounty managers become "sources of sMerits", ie if the will receive a monthly budget of smerits that they can give. This is a good idea, however, not all bounty managers are good in recognizing good posts - being a bounty manager does not necessarily qualify for being "special" in understanding quality. But all things considered, I think this could be a good idea.

Well, that would really be a great thing if the participants really do deserve it due to their great quality posting that really contributes to this forum and its community. But the thing is, even when on a campaign that has a whole team that managing it, their smerits alone are pretty much not enough for all the participants. So it is just completely impossible.

I think what Op is asking for is whether it is possible for an individual to get a merit point from a campaign manager and I believe that is possible because the campaign manager is also part of the forum member and are also entiled to exercise the rights as a member.

Being busy and not being able to spot nice post is out of it. The issue I think is that the merit is not being given justfully.

I’ve seen bounty managers with neutral trust also so it really is dependant on who the poster is. Merit sources have to be a somewhat established member & have no negative or neutral trust imo.

Although improbable to reward everybody in the campaign, if managers were given 2-4x smerits than there were participants you could accordingly give them out to the best posters or adequate posters. Only problem with this is that it puts more work on the managers for no extra compensation and for that reason it seems like a moot point.

good point well i wish all of constructive and member that puts efforts to their post must have merits however the merits system not so accurate by distribution of merits points

no  thats not what i mean.. well merits producer must qualify the standards of the moderator if the bounty manager has red trust the moderator will not allowed that manager will be produce merits.

I can give a modetor merit, maybe I'm happy because he likes my post. it's a reward for me because of the rank I'm doing.and all of them maybe worth the reward is lucky. But we are still going to try everything we need.

will if signature campaign or bounty campaign manager give a merit from the selected participant i think is an extra bonus for the participant do this job well as campaigner and make quality post.
they have no argue about the participant  between  the relation of manager give and take merit as well they work well their job both as member of this bitcointalk forum.

If a bounty manager like that all is very profitable and very nice, I also hope all can be like that, let will get more tokens.

Giving the merit of a member is limited so if the bounty manager gives a merit it may cause the enormous participation of the Signature Campaign. It's okay to just give merit the members who liked your idea of ​​what you wrote.

#Datarius

Why not? It's really hard to get rank up because of the merit system, well I pray someone will give me merit though. :)

If the bounty manager for signature campaign gives me merit, then, I will be very happy and glad. It's like a job well-done for me because it's not easy to please the people in the higher position, and it's like a bonus for us since we're posting quality and good posts. In my case, I don't have a merit yet, but I'm very hopeful to get one in the near future.

it is not a real merit function
someone should use their merit to give to users who share useful content
a fair way to go is, you also have to create and share useful constants as well

I'd argue that as a bounty manager needs to check a number of posts, including having a cursory glace at them to make sure that they comply with the bounty campaign posting rules that they would be a reasonable candidate to be a merit source (obviously on application and approval by the system). They will see so many posts and would hopefully be able to tell the difference between a good one and a poor one. They may have an incentive not to hand out merits though as more ranked participants means more stakes and less total dividend of any campaign.

I definitely wouldnt see it as unfair/cheating/poor sportsmanship if a bounty manager was handing out merits to bounty participants, so long as the posts weren't of poor quality.  

We have a lot of members in a single campaign. They won't give us merits, if CM gives you atleast one merits then treat that as a box of chocolates. So better make a Quality post.

That would really be a big help to us, specially us who are on the low rank. Some members of this forum doesn't really give merit at all. I don't know why, maybe they are afraid of the having competition. I see a lot of jr. member with high activity and no merit and when I read some of their post they are actually quality and helpful post. It's so sad that the some of those helpful members don't rank up because of jealousy and greed of other high rank members.

I think a bounty manager will not give a merit. Giving a merit in a post has the good content in his words and useful. if you have been billed in a post and you have learned in his post you can merit his work. Merit is important for a person to rank higher. Recently many spam posts due to airdrops were lots of spam posts so the admin bitcointalk decided to avoid it. Merit the key to increase rank up need the best post to attract readers to give you the merit.

If the bounty manager gives you a merit that means your post is quality and good and be thankfull because its not easy to please people to give us a merit. Merit is a very important cause it will avoid shit post.

Will if someone will give you merits or a campaign manager will give you merits it will be nice. But getting merits pretty so hard. Thats why i hate this new rank up system. Its pretty impossible to reach the 100 merits order to become a full member. Hope they will back the original rank system.

It's good if the campaign manager gives merit to their participants because for sure if they gave your post is good and constructive.  Rank up the account is hard brcause of the merit required but it is good because they will prevent spamming in this forum. This new system is prevent also for farming account to those have a lot of accounts. If you are confidence and you think your post is constructive for sure they will give you a merit that help to you to rank up.

Well! It's going to be Great!!! Especially today, it's quite hard to gain merit! It will benifited us all! But of course, its going to happen if the Bounty Manager really likes every post/replies that you made! And if you're truly engage with this Forum! Sounds great for me tho

There is nothing wrong in campaign managers giving merit but not all mangers can give merit to everybody because the limited amount of merit they themselves have to give and bounty managers sometimes are people of lower rank. Its kind of difficult to rank up these days especially for lower rank but its all for the best and I am sure that its achieving the objective why its put in place unlike before where you only need to post to rank up. The onus of ranking up is to start putting high level of thoughts in posts and merit will come knowingly or unknowingly.

That would be either a small number of participants or they would be receiving 1-2 merit. Tho, merit for signature campaigns would basically be selling merit and why would campaign manager bother with that. Sure, he can give it out like a reward to the best poster and nothing else.
Campaign managers are here just to lead that campaign for that running period of time, so in order for them to give out merit in signature camaigns... why would they, if they don't want personally.

I give my big thanks to the bounty manager that give me merit. Yes, because it's hard to rank up your account because of merit. And everyone of us are hoping to rank up faster.

There's nothing wrong with it, if the campaign states that additional award for the bounty joiners will be merit for their hard work then Mod will nothing to say if your given ten points at once.
And Safe also from the red trust since it was publicity.

Yeah but that will be too hard to be implemented. First of all, the bounty needs many accounts that are high ranked because that will be their only possible source of sendable merits. It will be a form of added labor to the group of the bounty and there might be some issues. Another factor that make this thing harder is that the path of the merits is tracked by the authority in this forum and they might find it as a wrong move.

well... if they will give me a merit i have to thank them now because it is so hard now to ranked up without merit.we know that rules that it is so difficult to be rank.but if they will give me a chance to be ranked up then why not.

This is NOT a good idea. I personally would be thankful if another member sees me worthy of a merit. But suggesting for campaign managers to give out merits to their participants is inappropriate. Once campaign managers starts giving out merits to participants, every other participant will surely ask or even demand that they be given merits as well. Why? Because they would see it to be bias and unfair. Their argument would be, "Hey! I’m also promoting the
same project! Why shouldn’t I get a merit?!" Now this will just be a big headache for the manager considering the # of participants that will be bugging him for merits. Also, do take note that asking or demanding for merits will most probably be counted as begging for merits which many of the high ranking members easily gets annoyed with. Now anyone can be tagged for doing this. Merit begging is a big no no!  

I think if the bounty manager will be the one to give merit it is more appropriate since he will be the one to judge whom among his participant are doing well who give his best during the campaign who give constructive post and having sense and convince the reading public and the campaign manager prerogative to whom he will give his merit or to rank individual.

i am just wondering if bounty manager for signature campaign gives me a merit i have to thank him a lot because now it is really hard to rank up because of that merit.so how can we go further if nobody want us to give merit.but if the decision of our bounty manager will be like that that was a very great for us.now i have to say "thank you".

Yep, a good idea to spread merit but there are so many participants in a campaign. Like in bounty signature campaign sometimes they have 100+ participants and there are only few smerit for bounty manager to be given. But for sure it will give moral boost to the participant of the campaign

What?


Right! Idea is not that good at all. Not just because of "everyone would want it" but there's simply not enough merit to be successful, maybe if the merit source was leading the campaign but even then the manager doesn't have anything to do with the campaign (most of the times) besides just managing it. Therefore, the team behind the projects campaign would have to provide merit.



Wrong. Merit has nothing to do with campaigns and vice versa.

A huge number of people knowing what you can earn on bitcoins earn them.

Everyone out here does have very limited merits to give .
Thus bounty Campaign managers will have tough time choosing the right ones ..
Also then problem is if..they wish to give merits equally to everyone in the campaign they will have to coordinate with the staff, and that will take time..
All that can happen is ... They can distribute some merit they have to the participants who Excel at work, but then again if they wished to give merits you would already have right now..it's a choice they have to make .. one cannot force.

i think it can happen that bounty manager can give you merit like if you post in their ann thread or etc that related to the campaign but still i think users here can give merit after all and base on your post OP i think this is not constructive but still that's your mind do what you want i only say what i want too so better to do our business here in forum

The reward manager of the signature event, give me the token after the bounty is over. This is the best reward!

This is a very lucky thing if I get the extra merit in signing.

There is nothing stopping this from happening now, but a premise would be for the Campaign Manager to have sMerit to give away. Some do, since they are high-ranking community profiles, whilst some are low ranking and therefore have little to no sMerit available to give away.

Regardless, one would say that, being sMerit a limited resource, only a few people would be able to receive merit for a given campaign. Logically, one would favor those that do most work for the campaign, therefore probably allocating it to those that do the toughest tasks such as translation or article generation, which are already amply rewarded in tokens from the ICO.

Hi,

That's exactky what merit is not about!

The merit system was implemented to avoid people posting a lot of low quality posts. The idea here is that your rank (number of posts, time on the forum) is not enough. You also need merit (quality of your post, helping other understand some topics).

So.. definitely, no, campaign should not give merit! ;)

Knowing that merit was made for quality posts, It was awarded for those who deserve it. So the manager should not do that to give the participants a merit. As far as I know it is against the law of the forum. Correct me if I'm wrong

I'm very thankful if the bounty manager gives me a merit. For  now it's hard to rank up if we don't have a merit, so we just hope that some people in higher ranks will give us merit.

Your idea was possible but if those campaign manager giving a reward for those who post constractive and proper posting. Yes its hard to get merit or to rank up but it was helpful for those who ng constractive and to eliminate those possers and have multiple account. So that is why we have a new procesa to rank up so post constractive and they reward you a merit.

Where will the bounty managers get enough merits to give his/her bounty participants? I belief the merit system has been put to place more to check unnecessary abuse of this forum and also ensuring that people not just post for posting sake but post something worthy of reading, note and really contributive.

I don't see anything wrong with that, in fact some bounty managers have started to apply this , giving merit to the participant when he truly deserve it for a really good post he has made. This is also a very good indirect way of fighting spam and low quality post. Users with low quality post won't rank up unless they raise up their game and post quality.

Actually this is a bright idea,that the bounty manager will be the one would give the merit  to the bounty participants because its will also help promoting the project that they develope in the blockchain market,but in the other hand there is also a negative  feedback to the community in this forum, because its contributes a doubt  that maybe this merit  system will be given only and the benefited are the circle of friends of the bounty manager.

I agree  that this is somehow a good idea, bounty managers giving merits to the members having a very informative and good constructive post. But it with be good also, not just the bounty manager but also the moderator of this forum should also give merits that really deserve to be given. With this, it will help improve the ranking of the Newbies, jr.members and members in this community.

The more you work the more this reward will be, signature campaign is able to make you rich if you are a bitcoin user, it will provide you topics to show your talent and your skills, bitcoin signature campaign is the best way to get profit without investing and it is being wide day by day, several people use to discuss their knowledge bout bitcoin and they get high merit with posting good and useful stuff about related topics here.