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Title: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: jeanne513lefe on February 23, 2018, 08:58:44 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: zenrol28 on February 23, 2018, 09:20:13 AM
Yes, absolutely. But it needs the right timing. Like when FUDs are all over the internet, make a large sell-off and everything with weak hands will follow. Then its your chance to buy again at low price. And also when good news spreads, make a large buy order (but don't actualy buy it) and others will make higher orders than yours.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: JerryJam on February 23, 2018, 09:41:17 AM
Financial collusion poses the greatest danger to all types of markets. Stock market players often use speculative methods to make quick profits. Various methods of manipulation From information technology to everyday psychology are used. If the company has a high liquidity this is used by large banks and corporations.for speculative earnings. They have an informal arrangement among themselves to buy up the currency EN masse. Thereby creating hype and artificial demand for the currency for which there is currently no supply.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: serjent05 on February 23, 2018, 10:41:10 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

It is very possible.  We can see it on their coordinated attack to Bitcoin and how they managed to FUD it and buy bitcoin at a very low price.  Then the next thing is hype.  Bitcoin market had always been like this.  Whales together with influencer and social media promoters, plays a huge part on this.  If whales tapped these mediums, they will be able to control the market effectively.  It is the mood and emotion that dictates the market and influencers are great on this kind of stuff.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: adolf512 on February 23, 2018, 10:48:27 AM
Financial collusion poses the greatest danger to all types of markets. Stock market players often use speculative methods to make quick profits. Various methods of manipulation From information technology to everyday psychology are used. If the company has a high liquidity this is used by large banks and corporations.for speculative earnings. They have an informal arrangement among themselves to buy up the currency EN masse. Thereby creating hype and artificial demand for the currency for which there is currently no supply.
Well said! It is sad to realize that the prices in the market are played by "whales", and we are only a small link in this chain. Bitcoin was not created for this, but for the transparency of financial relations, as well as the convenience of tracking and storing the necessary information.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Wallflower28 on February 23, 2018, 10:49:18 AM
Of course yes! Specially, if there is only a limited supply of market. If someone holds even 1/5 of the market then he can manipulate its price. If he will holds his investment then the price will  smoothly goes up and when he sells all of his investment for sure, there will become a great crash.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Tapyaks72 on February 23, 2018, 10:50:01 AM
Yes, absolutely. But it needs the right timing. Like when FUDs are all over the internet, make a large sell-off and everything with weak hands will follow. Then its your chance to buy again at low price. And also when good news spreads, make a large buy order (but don't actualy buy it) and others will make higher orders than yours.
Yeah there is a possiblity  because those  who own the big  part of the pie will have the control of the entire pie because he or she can  buy all parts of the pie. But it seems in bitcoin many big investors that want to control the pie or share of entire market cap, because of that the price will soar high.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: wantjokull on February 23, 2018, 11:05:32 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

This is true. I have seen this happening with big brands of world. I am going to relate this one with the crypto currency as that would be the perfect example. Just look after the apple company. This guy have played great monopoly by giving world the apple products. There is no apple product which can connect to the outside world products and thus forms the great monopoly. If you want to hear the music then you need to have the ear pods. If you want to control the Apple TV then you need apple remote. Lolz. Everything is monopoly here and they are earning huge money out of that.

For any crypto currency industry who has the power of the monopoly would do the same and can bring down the crypto or could take it to the top of the hill. So yeah that can happen truly.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: BossMacko on February 23, 2018, 12:21:14 PM
Very possible especially if that someone has a lot of money to use to manipulate virtual currency market once they sold or bought a huge stock of virtual currency its market will surely change and people will follow with the change. That is where the manipulation starts with that someone who have the guts to dropped or buy huge stacks of virtual currency.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Viyamore on February 23, 2018, 12:35:47 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Its for sure a yes, anyone can do it who holds a large stacks of any virtual or digital currency. In this bitcoin you can see it yourself, you can observe how market works and uses some big news to manipulate. In this kind of market which no one ruled everyone can make it.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: rickadone on February 24, 2018, 05:51:03 AM
Financial collusion poses the greatest danger to all types of markets. Stock market players often use speculative methods to make quick profits. Various methods of manipulation From information technology to everyday psychology are used. If the company has a high liquidity this is used by large banks and corporations.for speculative earnings. They have an informal arrangement among themselves to buy up the currency EN masse. Thereby creating hype and artificial demand for the currency for which there is currently no supply.
Yeah, and most especially since they have what it takes to always play the market out to their advantage. They are big, they are rich, they always hold good position in every market and they take advantage of the lower traders and all the stop losses to get their profit. It is not possible for someone (a single person) based on the topic to manipulate the market though, but for group of big boys with huge position, this is very possible and we are already experiencing that.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: allahabadi on February 24, 2018, 06:07:20 AM
I believe we are currently seeing such manipulations very frequently in the market.

Also the fact that most investors are mere speculators makes such manipulations very easy.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: dothebeats on February 24, 2018, 06:08:35 AM
For someone who bought loads during the early days or during the stagnation in 2014, yes, they can control the market at will but that doesn't mean they'd do it. Market manipulation in crypto is not new; pump and dumps were just a common thing back in the days and if that isn't manipulation then I don't know what it is. Most of the time, manipulation happens to a low-volume coin and some private group decides to buy a huge quantity of it and overhype it. That in itself is already manipulation in play. If the regulated stocks can be manipulated, crypto would also be an easy asset to manipulate as well.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Tharel on February 24, 2018, 06:12:39 AM
Yes definitely! Those who manipulate the market are called "whales" -  these are people or a group of people holding large part of a particular coin and use it to their advantage like selling it to their desired price. When these happens investors will start selling so they can buy back into the coin at a cheaper price.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: fiulpro on February 24, 2018, 06:32:40 AM
It's not only possible but it's being done too...
Even right now.
The ones holding highest shares in the cryptocurrency Market.. buys and sells at the same time and that cannot be a coincident at all..!!
When the bitcoin cash came .. we clearly saw how the big ones were prompting everyone with them to leave BTC and go for cash.

The more money you have in the cryptocurrency Market the more authority you will have over the market.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: 1C6fV5DtakfKANLJ8GUV7hCaA on February 24, 2018, 06:42:56 AM
Yes indeed. These people/group will definitely be able to manipulate the market movement. Using psychology and their vast amounts of money. They can cause FUD and stuff to bring prices down.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: aoihs00 on February 24, 2018, 06:53:02 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Oh this thing! Why not, they can do it if they want profits and that too hell lot of profits. Im not sure about the monopoly or stuff but they can bring the major change to crypto currency due to decentralised nature of the crypto currency. This is already known that those who have most of coins, for example, altcoin project where someone bought more than 10-20% coins at early bird stage! Such person can really hold big power as most of the ICO's do not end up selling the 100% coins and they burn the unsold coins too. Thus this % in later stage can become more than 30% for that particular person getting him huge power. Just imagine he selling all the coins at one moment can bring the market down. So yeah that possible I believe.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Siopao on February 24, 2018, 06:59:07 AM
Yes, if someone holds a big share of the cryptocurrency there is a possibility of price manipulation. A single move of his coins can make a big difference and impact on the value chart. If the value goes down, some people who have easily panics, will definitely follow and sell yheir coins.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: latoxine34 on February 24, 2018, 07:19:36 AM
Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?



Like this -1000$ bloody candle on bitfinex today on 15 minutes ?


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Vatimins on February 24, 2018, 07:41:11 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?


     Well, it really is possible if you think about it since money and connections make big influences which can really enable anyone to do anything he or she wants. It can even help enable someone to bend laws. So it really isn't impossible to happen and is a pretty logical thought. It may sound something that is out of a movie but really, this is the reality that we  are currently living in right now, sad but true. But still, profit is still very possible if you know how the markets move or at least know a bit about it because by this we will know when to invest and how long to hold before these whales go and take profits again. I think all we need is to study more about the past movements of the markets. Just sayin'


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Nellayar on February 24, 2018, 07:46:22 AM
If that person holds half of the market then he can manipulate the market price. But I think there is no people as of now that can control the price. If then, they are group of whales. Yes, bunch of whales can easily manipulated the market.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Carlsen on February 24, 2018, 08:00:37 AM
Of course that is possible, and I think the best way to achieve that is by a media campaign.
That is the reason why we get all those FUD news cumulated every now and then.
These large occurences of false news is nothing more than an attempt to manipulate the crypto market. Unfortunatelly a successful one many times.
And in contrary to manipulating the market with pump and dump maneuvers the media campaigns are not even expensive.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Indrawan77 on February 24, 2018, 08:23:29 AM
Yes it could be, it's one of the negative thing about crypto, because its decentralised so the market able to be manipulated, but it need a huge amount and usually the whale choose the coin that is not too famous, and the whale usually has a group that called pump and dump group, the intention of the group is to manipulate crypto price


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: playboy654 on February 24, 2018, 08:41:55 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Yes, and we call them as whales who hold the large part of the cryptocurrency will manipulate the price of bitcoin and will make money out of it.But the investors who need to aware of these whales or you will lose your money.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: torch2121 on February 24, 2018, 08:45:19 AM
Yes, having a large amount of Bitcoin can manipulate the virtual currency market. Not only that when you manipulate the market we can buy virtual currency in a lower price. A nice play to earn. Timing is very  important if they will try to do this.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: olubams on February 24, 2018, 09:56:30 AM
The highest number of bitcoin we have read someone held at any point in time is 1million bitcoins which is say 0.0625 using 16 million available bitcoins. The other set of category who could have that much or more than that are the exchange sites but those acting as custodians of funds. Which means its not possible for an individual to control the market. Currently its still possible for group of people to make it happen but gradually the market is getting bigger and out of control by the day.



Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: nidacoinlove on February 24, 2018, 10:20:55 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
We had experience it many times. There are few wallets around which belongs to early adopters, their transactions have a significant effect on the market. But not all the time since they want to. At first the manipulation was too easy for these wallet owners till 2015/16 but now the cryptocurrency market has grown into Billions of dollars so, it's not too simple now. Still these intelligent people know when to hammer the market to mould it according.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: keycellko on February 24, 2018, 10:33:57 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Yes of course. Its actually happening with bitcoin. You can see sometimes negative news would come along like black propagandas against bitcoin in order to bring the price down, sometimes or most of the time fake or edited news. The sharks are doing this to manipulate the price for them to buy very low and make the weak hands sell their coins very low.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Saksham on February 24, 2018, 10:35:49 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
As long as you have a necessary financial power and knowledge everything it is reachable including the manipulation of cryptomarket. What if someone spreads a fake news related to some important member of the Bitcoin community, obviously the price will react to those news...


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: chocolaty on February 24, 2018, 10:54:32 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

It is possible to people with funds. In the hierarchy of traders and investors, the richest are on the top and have great potential to manipulate the crypto market. They have the power to create changes in the market because they financially confident. The people on the low part of the hierarchy jus go with the flow and they are the reactors to changes brought about by these top-most people.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: vv181 on February 24, 2018, 11:23:06 AM
it's possible.
even though the nature of cryptocurrencies is decentralized, it does not close the possibility there are some people or corporations that have a significant impact on the market. Maybe single whales don't affect too much the market movement but imagine if the combined and organized whales to move the market for their own profit.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: shi07 on February 24, 2018, 11:53:50 AM
Yes it's possible. And I think, it's happening right now in crypto industry. When the whales take a large percentage of their coins we can expect a great impact on the price, followed by that are the "weak hands" who immediately panic during a price drop. A single move of large investors  can create a big impact on the industry.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Freddie Aguiluz on February 24, 2018, 11:59:20 AM
Yes, absolutely. But it needs the right timing. Like when FUDs are all over the internet, make a large sell-off and everything with weak hands will follow. Then its your chance to buy again at low price. And also when good news spreads, make a large buy order (but don't actualy buy it) and others will make higher orders than yours.

Yes I agree. One can manipulate a currency but he/she needed a enough knowledge and wisdom about it. Great timing and strategy can also do it but lack of being updated about it is an issue.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Thymoty on February 24, 2018, 12:04:11 PM
cryptocurrency is not much different like stocks when someone who has more than 25% shares sells him
then automatically the price of the stock will go down
therefore someone can just manipulate the price of cryptocurrency if he has a very large number.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Morjana17 on February 24, 2018, 12:10:49 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

In my own idea maybe it is possible to manipulate the virtual currency market especially if they can get a link on it. Some people wants to ruin the system maybe because of curiosity that brings through. But bitcoin cannot easily go down because it is very powerful and stable enough to do the process for the peogress. Even if their are times that the virtual currency will fall and for sure it will nt stick to it because it will rise and rise that is the rule of bitcoin to help and help many people.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: di.ako.toh on February 24, 2018, 12:59:56 PM
I think it is really possible to happen, for someone to manipulate the market, especially those users who are huge holder of coins which have a bigger impact to pump and dump of prices when they pull out their wealth.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: East2011 on February 24, 2018, 01:40:46 PM
I always think that a group of billionaire can control the price of bitcoin for their own benefits. It is posible because they have a lot of money. But there is no enough evidence that they do it.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: raven7886 on February 24, 2018, 02:50:57 PM
Yes, absolutely. But it needs the right timing. Like when FUDs are all over the internet, make a large sell-off and everything with weak hands will follow. Then its your chance to buy again at low price. And also when good news spreads, make a large buy order (but don't actualy buy it) and others will make higher orders than yours.
I am trying to put all the pieces of what you have said together to make sense out of it, but I just keep getting confused. Manipulation of the market is not something new already and whether we like it or not, there will always be monopoly.

Some have the resources to hold a very good position and they definitely find a way to come together to drive the market in any direction they want and all they do is emotional trading, which is where they make even more from to keep holding a better position in the market. It is like a cult as far as I am concerned, but what can we do ?


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: BrewMaster on February 24, 2018, 03:51:46 PM
manipulation is part and parcel of the cryptocurrency market. it has always been like this thanks to two things: the small size of the market + the unregulated nature of it.

and it is a lot of different levels of manipulation. for example you can see the manipulation even in bitcoin with all the media spread FUDs and all the sell pressure that comes on at times on major exchanges to push the price artificially lower than major supports such as 10k for instance.

then we have the altcoin market which is more like a circus than a market! and everything is just a P&D-fest and whales are enjoying the free money of the newbie masses.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Apple Mac on February 24, 2018, 04:00:57 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Yes,ai believe this is possible specially if that person is really great with hacking systems like what does the Bitcoin forum contains. Nowadays you can have everything you want without taking so much time to achieve it ,and this is just like this situation, probably there will be a time that a person with knowledge about it can hack Bitcoin just with his own power.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: mriansa on February 24, 2018, 04:16:17 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

I seem to know there is a case like this one of the big market and its end seems to have closed because it unravels the case, it really will make the loss of the players in the market that they manipulate the price, I think it's an unfair game.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Gabteb on February 24, 2018, 04:22:58 PM
Yep its possible and Big boys do it everytime so if you ask this then you dont know about it ,be carifull and search about it be informed  ,and then its it will be much more harder manipulate.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Dissident991 on February 24, 2018, 04:30:11 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
It is possible, we have seen it last two monthes. Last two monthes at a time when there were a lot of ban news about cryptocurrencies and fud you could see how on exchanges price was dumped through many small orders.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: jaysabi on February 24, 2018, 05:00:09 PM
If that person holds half of the market then he can manipulate the market price. But I think there is no people as of now that can control the price. If then, they are group of whales. Yes, bunch of whales can easily manipulated the market.

It wouldn't take holding half the market or anywhere near it. Currently, a whale could dump $50,000,000 of btc on the market at once and wipe the price down from $9800 to $7800 representing an instant 20% drop in the price that would cause other people to pile on to the downward momentum inflicting further damage. In this scenario, $50m USD would wipe out $35 billion of btc market cap.

You don't have to be anywhere near as big as you think it have dramatic power over the market. But also, the risk of acting like this could epicly backfire, and I don't find it likely too many people are going to risk $50m USD on a ploy that may ultimately end up not working if other momentum traders don't also pile into the selling bonanza.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: seizetehday5 on February 24, 2018, 05:09:06 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
It is possible, we have seen it last two monthes. Last two monthes at a time when there were a lot of ban news about cryptocurrencies and fud you could see how on exchanges price was dumped through many small orders.

The smaller markets get manipulated all the time because they are easier to move, but Bitcoin and Ethereum markets are tougher to manipulate and would likely need a group of experienced traders to do so. And yes markets have been ranging and slowly drawing down but don't expect this to go on forever, I am seeing a lot of falling wedges lately, which is a bullish sign.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: play1ife on February 24, 2018, 05:25:56 PM
I think it is possible for someone with a massive amount of resourses.
BUT you should understand it is easy only to manipulate low market cap cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Pleione527 on February 24, 2018, 05:30:44 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
That's possible if an entity can own majority of a certain coin like bitcoin, but seeing the current distribution of bitcoin by this time, it' s quite impossible for a single entity to acquire the majority. As far as I know bitcoinbis now distributed througout the world and no one can even trace the ownership or exact place where majority of this coins belongs.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: latoxine34 on February 24, 2018, 05:45:53 PM

You all guys think that manipulating could  only come from private people ?
Not from big crypto company ?  ???


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Silvermist on February 25, 2018, 04:18:10 AM
I think so, it may be possible and these someone are people holding large number of coins. In which their single movement has a greater impact on cryptocurrency in the market. At the time they had to pull out their coins and sell, the value of coins gets lower.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Ranly123 on February 25, 2018, 04:38:35 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Absolutely yes, for those who have the greater power has the advantage to manipulate the crypyocurrency. Yhey can buy a large amount of cryptocurrency in a low price then the supply will be scarce and the price will rise . Those bought tokens will be sold in a much bigger amount then the market price of cryptocurrency will drop again. They will do it again and again in their benifits.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: wuvdoll on February 25, 2018, 08:29:56 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

It is very possible.  We can see it on their coordinated attack to Bitcoin and how they managed to FUD it and buy bitcoin at a very low price.  Then the next thing is hype.  Bitcoin market had always been like this.  Whales together with influencer and social media promoters, plays a huge part on this.  If whales tapped these mediums, they will be able to control the market effectively.  It is the mood and emotion that dictates the market and influencers are great on this kind of stuff.
Yes and they work hand in hand with the media. They create huge news and speculations in the market to drive the market up after buying at a very low position, and then when they are satisfied with the value and have gotten as much as they feel is good enough for them, they cash out, start the round in the other way with FUDs, control the market to keep going down, since there has been a lot of greed in the market, it makes it easy for the weak hands to dump until it gets back to where they feel comfortable again to buy back with the cycle going over and over like that. We cannot escape it.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: jaredl on February 25, 2018, 08:40:42 AM
We are witnessing lots of market manipulation in the crypto markets.

When a public figure belonging to a financial institution speak badly about crypto, you can be sure he has shorted the market or he is buying the market when it drops.

When fake news get sent out, like the fake Vitalik death last year, it was to manipulate the market.

And for the smaller markets, the daily trading volumes of many alt coins are below 10million. It does not take much for a single trader to sell the market in order to buy it cheap later on.

Plus there are so many pump and dump groups, what they are doing is price manipulation as they are coordinating buys or sells at the same time to move the markets.

This is happening all the time in crypto markets as the regulations are not as strong yet.

P.S. this does not mean that manipulation is not happening in traditional markets... you just dun hear about it publicly as regulators are on the lookout for manipulators in those markets.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Semosuchi Tesongrato on February 25, 2018, 11:40:38 AM
There are daily manipulations of the market (actually of every market) but there is no need to be a big investor: it's more simple to "suggest" to a politician to make a declaration, so you - knowing in advance what he will declare - can make the right moves, in the meanwhile that the public will go in a predictable direction.
Actually, I think that 90% of political declaration have the only aim to influece the market and to create profit for friends.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: eaLiTy on February 25, 2018, 11:45:37 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
The term virtual currency market is a broad term and anyone can manipulate the market,since it is easy to create a currency, anyone could come up with a new currency and make some money and that is also included in the manipulation. If you are talking about a currency like bitcoin,it is really hard to manipulate unless you have multiple millions worth of coins.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: nazaididuan1 on February 25, 2018, 12:28:57 PM
Certainly, if the team has more than 30% of the market wealth, the market has the role of manipulation!

Everything is affected by supply and demand, and digital encryption is no exception.

A lot of buying digital currency price will go up, sell can make fall!


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: g-uid on February 25, 2018, 02:38:07 PM
The last crash was mitigated by a single buyer on Bitfinex who bought more than 20000 BTC at above market rates:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2864671.0



Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: faceoff97 on February 25, 2018, 02:53:44 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Surely, someone has really the power to manipulate the prices, specially those who are possessing great volume of bitcoin. Whales are not just manipulating the price they have the concern for the stability and maintenance of coin. Though they can manipulate the value, they dont still has the full control over all this. There is no way they can put down tge market, it takes great number of people tp do so.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: cryp24x on February 25, 2018, 02:58:23 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

I seem to know there is a case like this one of the big market and its end seems to have closed because it unravels the case, it really will make the loss of the players in the market that they manipulate the price, I think it's an unfair game.

Well, life is unfair, as you can see not all people are born rich.  Same goes with trading and market manipulation.  There are several people who have access to a huge amount of Bitcoin because they are an early adopters.  These adopters are autmatically became billionaires when Bitcoin skyrocketed and since they have the money and Bitcoin, they can easily stage FUD and hype on which they prefer to maximize their profit on the market.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: ohlawdy on February 25, 2018, 04:10:56 PM
It is possible and it is already happening in various ways for a couple of years.
Pump and dump for example is really easy in an unregulated market like this.
And i feel like this or last year a lot of the big money joined in , and they know how to manipulate.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Cryptosymphony on February 25, 2018, 04:39:02 PM
Of course it's possible, and it happens all the time. Big whales have the power to do this directly, politicians just by declarations.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: whirlcoin on February 25, 2018, 04:52:10 PM
Yes you can and the people who manipulate the cryotocurrency prices are called as whales I think.But it is not easy as much as we think we need to hold big portion of that currency then we can manipulate the price of that coin,since the price of crypto currency is depends on supply and demand.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: pitiflin on February 25, 2018, 05:16:07 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Monopoly? Not exactly, if you take monopoly as in a monopoly form of market where there is only one seller /a cartel or a company selling a same product /service at different prices to different people.
But manipulation, definitely yes. Monopoly advantage like you said is possible and does happen in the markets every day by the bulls, what we call as whales in the cryptocurrency markets.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Boh manok on February 25, 2018, 06:33:06 PM
it's unlikely that this bitcoin does not control anyone, and the bitcoin can not control the bitcoin because the bitcoin is determined by the market harha, the less bitcoin supplied is the bitcoin will be more expensive and vice versa so it's very difficult to manipulate the price bitcoin or other virtual currency prices.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: darewaller on February 27, 2018, 10:29:03 AM
It is not only being done by public figures and the media, even companies and exchanges sometimes do play tricks on people. I have noticed it several times. I make use of one popular exchanger (I won’t mention their name, but they are very popular) they are used to setting Bitcoin price rate about 5% or so above others, and I have complained it to them several times, but they keep neglecting my messages. So I decided to quit and go with better ones. So market can be full of manipulations.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: maculeth on February 27, 2018, 10:35:14 AM
is actually quite difficult to manipulate prices in the market. because the price of crypto is influenced by supply and demand. maybe if someone wants to manipulate the price in order to go up, they buy lots of coins so demand on the coins goes up and prices start to rise, then they sell it when the price actually goes up.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Sithara007 on February 27, 2018, 10:37:14 AM
Some of the smaller alts such as Bitsend (BSD), Denarius (DNR) and Deep Onion are having very small market caps and trading volumes. On top of that, these coins are traded in only a few exchanges. If someone is having $1 million to $2 million in liquid cash, then he will be able to manipulate the markets for these currencies.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: marcbitcoins on February 27, 2018, 10:43:58 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

I believed it already manipulated like this so called ultimate corrections in which i believed this was done by the big whales or some conspiracy just to make bitcoin and other crypto currencies to pump and dump. I also believed that China wants to manipulate the Bitcoin value during their banning the Bitcoin but they failed and later on they just declared that they will just regulate it than banning it.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Wilsonong222 on February 27, 2018, 11:01:23 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

My answer is yes! It is actually a strategy use by fund manager who has a lot of financial capabilities to control in some extend the price of the market. It is actually happen in stocks market, forex, and even in cryptocurrencies.
 
The next question is this bad for the small player? The answer is no! We can take it to our advantage that kind of strategy use by big player. By studying the pattern use by big player, it is usually happen in the third wave of Resistance and Support line. All you have to do is carefully study the pattern.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: monomix on February 27, 2018, 01:10:06 PM
possible ... it is real. it is happening


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 27, 2018, 01:36:26 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Yes. Even though I am not a trader or a sort of like investor I have heard some people say that something might be possible to happen due to whale manipulation on the market. We can go with the flow but it is always an advantage to those who has money to buy or sell some during a manipulation. That is why we need to have a situational awareness most especially the virtual currency market because a lot can happen in just a matter of time. If we did it on the  right timing then not only those powerful entities make some gain but also of course us who make sone ride.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Cherylstar86 on February 27, 2018, 01:50:22 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

As far as I know no one can manipulates the virtual currency since it was designed that no 3rd part is involve and decentralized was occurred. Eventually, base on my own analysis it can be fluctuates tremendously by those big whales as they have huge amount of shares in crypto but it doesn't mean they can manipulate.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: bitbunnny on February 27, 2018, 01:56:04 PM
There are many theories about market manipulation but I'm not convinced in that and I don't think this is possible. Maybe whales could influence it only on a temporary basis with huge amount of coins placed or removed from the market but even that I wouldn't call intented manipulation.
Market is functioning on a more complex basis.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: desmodiAN on February 27, 2018, 02:08:51 PM
by spreading fake news, hiring fake posts/advertises, using downtimes of major exchanges (some) and on sametime excercising whale movements (pump/Dump) of big amounts of coins its possible to move price for a short time span.

in the long run it will take more money to manipulate ...
but short moves are enough to make money.

so...its possible to affect us. because we all are the market (and our trading bots).


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Sab11 on February 27, 2018, 02:33:42 PM
Absulutely yes, big whales can manipate the market by spreading fake news(FUD) like happen to bitcoin last year (FUD) spread and many people sell thier bitcoins, when the price is low they buy lots of coins so demand on the coins goes up and prices start to rise, abd then sell when the price goes up. Thats the market.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: usam_coiner on February 27, 2018, 02:41:50 PM
There are many theories about market manipulation but I'm not convinced in that and I don't think this is possible. Maybe whales could influence it only on a temporary basis with huge amount of coins placed or removed from the market but even that I wouldn't call intented manipulation.
Market is functioning on a more complex basis.
manipulation of bitcoin is not possible because it is decentralized and that's the reason people are investing into it and if manipulation get started in bitcoin then people will be bored of it and they all will take out their money.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: CHENIEN on February 27, 2018, 02:45:55 PM
Everybody knows that cryptocurrency can be manipulated, but only few personalities can manipulate cryptocurrency. If we talk about the manipulation system, it is likely similar the words speculation and prediction. Because there is no personalities being found or being caught that she or he is the one who manipulates. It is only something suspected, because we are only suspecting that there is a manipulation when price rapidly down and likewise when rapidly rise, our speculation on that are manipulation. Some people says that there is a big investor who invest large capital that's why price higher, and when price go down, some people also says that large investors selling their assets or their stocks that's why price go down. I am totally ruin, maybe crypto management cannot be manipulated because they are developer and promoter.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Tramle091296 on February 27, 2018, 03:05:36 PM
Ofcourse it does and thats one of the reason why bitcoin massively decrease because of the price last december price that reach $19,000 and also on those people has a 30% of bitcoin and they are called whales. they are one of the reasons of the unbalancing and unstable price on bitcoin. manipulating peoples mind by spreading Negative issue that gets people sale theyre stack coin and affect the price of coins. but also if they want to release a goodnews it will affect also to the price and maybe goes up.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: LeonardoDiCrypto on February 27, 2018, 05:56:24 PM
Of course yes and, by the way, it happens all the time, almost continuously. There are such whales around, people with such massive assets that they are able to totally manipulate any market. And they do it.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: wxa7115 on February 28, 2018, 04:00:15 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Yes it is possible, but it is not going to be easy after all the power in bitcoin is fragmented, the miners have some power, the devs, political entities, the media, the exchanges and any big holder of coins have influence over the market but unless they conspire to try to manipulate the market then changing the direction up or down will not be easy at all.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Kevin77 on February 28, 2018, 04:11:08 AM
It is not only being done by public figures and the media, even companies and exchanges sometimes do play tricks on people. I have noticed it several times. I make use of one popular exchanger (I won’t mention their name, but they are very popular) they are used to setting Bitcoin price rate about 5% or so above others, and I have complained it to them several times, but they keep neglecting my messages. So I decided to quit and go with better ones. So market can be full of manipulations.
Manipulation is not a new thing and it is a good thing you detected it earlier. In fact, from the look of things, the exchanges are even the biggest manipulators here when it comes to the market for either bitcoin or altcoins. They have the resources, they have the power and most times, they roll in a group and always decide to make the decisions when they all feel like. That is how I feel anyway.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: paul00 on February 28, 2018, 04:13:14 AM
Digital currencies such as bitcoin seems to be endless. Maybe because there is no actual regulation or law that this abides. Hence, I think gaining a monopoly out of it is possible but would be hard since there are also other people who would do the same and right now I am not really sure of how big will be its impact on the community.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: longskie0327 on February 28, 2018, 04:26:52 AM
Yes I think it's possible we never know who's up there to rise and fall of price value we also never knew  has the big influence and to manipulate it but its possible, considering that they're the one who really knew how it can be done with out us knowing it, there are factors contributing to it, people,investor, the technology and all that they can bw all.part of it. Although we can really can tell how is it.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: ss890 on February 28, 2018, 04:33:22 AM
Digital currencies such as bitcoin seems to be endless. Maybe because there is no actual regulation or law that this abides. Hence, I think gaining a monopoly out of it is possible but would be hard since there are also other people who would do the same and right now I am not really sure of how big will be its impact on the community.

Indeed thats what happening at the very moment. The decentralisation or in simple terms "no regulations" over the bitcoin are making the way for rich people to create monopoly in the world of crypto currencies. This gives them one step ahead as they got the pre-requisite which is nothing but money and load of money. What they needed to cook the recipe was decentralised nature of the bitcoin with which it was brought into existence.  ::) There you go start of the monopoly.

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I am not really sure of how big will be its impact on the community.

No one can tell surely but I believe when we see massive pumps and dumps, they are the result of such monopolies.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Butchick on February 28, 2018, 05:33:55 AM
Since one of the things that greatly impacts digital currency is the demand vs. the supply, then most probably, it is possible for manipulation and monopoly to occur. People with huge shares or holdings more likely have the power to do such thing especially when they decide to sell a huge amount of its holdings. Situations like this is very much normal and happens almost all the time.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: mersal on February 28, 2018, 05:59:21 AM
Sure it is possible because the price of crypto currency is based on demand and supply then they can manipulate it and it can be done by decreasing the demand or increasing the supply.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Ondre on February 28, 2018, 06:09:17 AM
Yes it is possible, specially those who owns a big amount of stocks in the market or has high position in the market who has capabilities to control. And the fact that crypto currencies value will rise and fall depending on the demands and supply of the day. that is why it can be manipulated.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Coleth on February 28, 2018, 06:15:19 AM
It is possible, there are people who hold small and large stocks in the market so, those people who have large amount of stocks are possible to control this because they have the ability due to their large amount of money. And it is always depend on demands and supply in the market in a day. All those that have currency value can all be manipulated due to the rise and fall of currency values.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: elvirecam430 on February 28, 2018, 06:25:19 AM
It depends on which virtual currency. For example, Bitcoin and ETH are very popular and held by many users evenly, it would be hard to manipulate the market. Moreover, there is no benefit for those holder for manipulating the currency since all holders want the price rising.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: jeanne513lefe on February 28, 2018, 06:57:11 AM
Yes, it's quite possible!! Because there is no existing perfect market around the whole world, any entities who are powerful enough can largely influnce the market supply and price. Acutually, we can find lots of monopoly in different countries. Even for digital currencies, there is still concern on if they will be controled by a few strong
exchanges which enter the markets much earlier and have much more knowledge.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: AltheaHeart14 on February 28, 2018, 11:39:42 PM
Yes, it is really possible for someone to manipulate virtual currency depending in what cryptocurrency,  if someone invest or hold a lots of coin then withdraw it, it will affect that specific currency market. This is thing was really happening in market industry so i think it is possible also to happen in virtual cerrency market.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Bitexpert2017 on February 28, 2018, 11:44:19 PM
Of course, having a large amount of Bitcoin can manipulate the virtual currency market.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Ann Impas on February 28, 2018, 11:56:55 PM
That is really possible, if a big entity or a very rich person holding a hug chunk of the token. He definitely could manipulate the market. But what I see now is that there are investment that has minimum and maximum purchase of every individual and they even verifying the person. But yeah, its possible.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: MoneyCrafter on March 01, 2018, 12:02:21 AM
Yes it could be, it's one of the negative thing about crypto, because its decentralised so the market able to be manipulated.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: sachdientugoogle on March 01, 2018, 01:09:06 AM
With the right resources - it is relatively easy (for now) to manipulate crypto currency price.

It’s another reason why one should always be careful of what they’re investing in.

Factors such as:

how much influence in media one has
how many tokens one / a group of connected individuals have
market cap of the token in question
trust / believability
how much one is willing to spend on said manipulation


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Nfp on March 01, 2018, 03:11:30 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Yes it could be possible, but only for those who are most influential people that are holding a huge amount of cryptocurrency. They can make to manipulate the market value of a cryptocurrency by just selling and buying a huge amount of cryptocurrency they like.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: elena_rose19 on March 03, 2018, 12:39:17 PM
Yes it's possible. If someone holds a large amount of certain cryptocurrency a single move if his coins can easily affect the value.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: el kaka22 on March 03, 2018, 01:03:54 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Monopoly? Not exactly, if you take monopoly as in a monopoly form of market where there is only one seller /a cartel or a company selling a same product /service at different prices to different people.
But manipulation, definitely yes. Monopoly advantage like you said is possible and does happen in the markets every day by the bulls, what we call as whales in the cryptocurrency markets.
I feel they both go hand in hand. You think we do not have a cartel already ? This is not one person, they are probably some group of big holders who are in the market making the decisions and basing it on the emotions running through the chart at most times. One thing I have noticed is there will always be a form of monopoly as some will always have the highest advantage and the weak hands have really given them that advantage already.

If we are thinking of holding a huge portion of it, we are not talking about a single holding of probably 500 BTC here as a lot of them hold more than this. But in the long run of it, they are always the one making the real market while the rest of the traders are just following put, so at the end of it all, we just have to keep watch.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: SmokerFace on March 03, 2018, 01:18:42 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Yes ofcourse! They can manipulate and control the market because they have a very huge capital, The movements of the market is depends on how many Volumes it makes so you can manipulate small investors if you have a high capital.
It means if that you invested 70% or more of someones circulating supply of their coins it means that you controlled the movement of that coin because other supplies are on your portfolio.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Whosdaddy on March 03, 2018, 01:35:26 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Is it even a matter of if it is possible or not? It is already happening. How do you think the market was pulled down completely just to shed away weak hands and for that to happen at that level and up to that level, I am not surprised at all that the market is manipulated by whales.

They already have the monopoly advantage and this would keep on as long as we keep having some FOMO movement in the market for no reason.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Bestfriendko on March 03, 2018, 02:46:35 PM
Someone or something?, very much possible. A new report from The New York Times this week suggests that Bitfinex, a virtual exchange, and its currency, Tether, have been helping to artificially prop up the value of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. A market analyst says that, "This absolutely reeks of price manipulation". Still, there’s almost certainly too much uncertainty at this point for the price to stabilize.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: adiksau0414 on March 03, 2018, 03:26:33 PM
I am not sure about, but as i continue learning about morr advance information about bitcoin, the answer is yes. They say thay some big whales can probably do this especially if they have this group and make a plot to do it. If a big whales sell their bitcoin, there would have a big effect in the price of bitcoin. Then, after this big spike in bitcoin, they probably buy another batch of bitcoin, in a lower price. I am not saying its true, but this probability might have some basis.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: sana54210 on March 04, 2018, 04:59:03 PM
is actually quite difficult to manipulate prices in the market. because the price of crypto is influenced by supply and demand. maybe if someone wants to manipulate the price in order to go up, they buy lots of coins so demand on the coins goes up and prices start to rise, then they sell it when the price actually goes up.
It is not difficult bro. We are not talking about a single person here and if it is by that we would say it is definitely difficult to manipulate the market. You think all those movements you see on the charts are not manipulations ?

The bull and bear effects on the market. Some have the resources and a huge one to play with the market to their advantage while the weak hands suffer it the most, referring to the weak investors who end up selling at losses.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: henmark on March 05, 2018, 08:34:54 AM
is actually quite difficult to manipulate prices in the market. because the price of crypto is influenced by supply and demand. maybe if someone wants to manipulate the price in order to go up, they buy lots of coins so demand on the coins goes up and prices start to rise, then they sell it when the price actually goes up.
It is not difficult bro. We are not talking about a single person here and if it is by that we would say it is definitely difficult to manipulate the market. You think all those movements you see on the charts are not manipulations ?

The bull and bear effects on the market. Some have the resources and a huge one to play with the market to their advantage while the weak hands suffer it the most, referring to the weak investors who end up selling at losses.
No, but manipulations occurs in market. Once everything is going good and ultimately we see the downfall in market. This abrupt down is not involuntary or a coincidence rather a big planned game that is being played by the whales out there. Majority of times, their own personal interests are involved and without caring what will be the effect on general public, they manipulate the prices.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Anewor on March 05, 2018, 08:59:40 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

I believe so, there is a chance. But I don't think you can benefit from doing so. Like when you buy almost all of the bitcoin which will then make the price go up and then you sell it. Or maybe you just have to hack the servers and create massive fear and then FUD came in, the price goes down and then you can start monopolizing it. But you must have a bigger amount of money for you to do this. Only fools would do this. If given a chance I wouldn't even care to do this. Why should I? Its cheating.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: wxa7115 on March 08, 2018, 02:55:53 AM
It depends on which virtual currency. For example, Bitcoin and ETH are very popular and held by many users evenly, it would be hard to manipulate the market. Moreover, there is no benefit for those holder for manipulating the currency since all holders want the price rising.
It is not as difficult as you believe while getting bitcoin now is very expensive in the early days of bitcoin you could get it for nothing, faucets gave full bitcoins, someone could have more than 1000BTC by collecting from faucets when they gave such high prizes so it is not odd to think that some whales have so many coins they can manipulate the market as they want.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: BeGoods on March 08, 2018, 05:15:13 AM
Someone or something?, very much possible. A new report from The New York Times this week suggests that Bitfinex, a virtual exchange, and its currency, Tether, have been helping to artificially prop up the value of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. A market analyst says that, "This absolutely reeks of price manipulation". Still, there’s almost certainly too much uncertainty at this point for the price to stabilize.
If someone has a power like dev that has a very large amount of coins probably about 50% of the total coins of course they could have manipulated the price of a coin in the market, because the key is just manipulating supply and demand. for bitcoin manipulation may be a bit difficult because total user is very large and many of the users are quite keen to distinguish where true news or speculation/hoax


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: samcrypto on March 08, 2018, 05:46:55 AM
It depends on which virtual currency. For example, Bitcoin and ETH are very popular and held by many users evenly, it would be hard to manipulate the market. Moreover, there is no benefit for those holder for manipulating the currency since all holders want the price rising.
It is not as difficult as you believe while getting bitcoin now is very expensive in the early days of bitcoin you could get it for nothing, faucets gave full bitcoins, someone could have more than 1000BTC by collecting from faucets when they gave such high prices so it is not odd to think that some whales have so many coins they can manipulate the market as they want.

They can really manipulate the market, I think it happened during the dump of bitcoin. Who knows, they are really trying to dump bitcoin so they can have more of it or pump it higher so they can have much profit. Everything is possible in cryptocurrency, specially with the new coins they can really manipulate it but don't be scared just know how to ride properly and you can also make money.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: DonFacundo on March 08, 2018, 07:04:02 AM
yes only whales can do that they can manipulate the cryptocurrencies and sometimes they will spreading the FUD of the coin through social medias of their followers and it can start down the coin, I remember the famous investor said that "bitcoin is a bubble" seems like he trying to down bitcoin but I think it was effective.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Yankae on March 08, 2018, 07:09:19 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
For me i think yes but not directly,e.g. spreading fake news to let the people panic that causes the bitcoin price in a dump for their own benefit.I'm referring to those big whales in crypto economy that buys bitcoin in low price because of the fake news.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: think3214 on March 08, 2018, 07:35:54 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
In my opinion, Altcoins in the virtual money market operate on the supply and demand of the entire economy of the world, if there is a powerful country affecting the market, the price of the altcoin will fluctuate in volume supply and demand of investors. But in my opinion, no power can control the entire cryptocurrentcy market.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: SixOfFive on March 08, 2018, 10:30:03 PM
Big Investors often manipulate Crypto market with the power of their volume trading. Also they have huge network of people which follow their trading signals. They can easily create a coin pump or dump a coin with their trading calls.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: johnnythunder on March 09, 2018, 04:45:02 AM
Indeed, it is extremely workable for somebody to control virtual money depending in what digital currency, on the off chance that somebody contribute or hold a bunches of coin at that point pull back it, it will influence that particular cash showcase. This is thing was truly occurring in showcase industry so I think it is conceivable additionally to occur in virtual cash advertise.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: FreshMoff on March 18, 2018, 03:24:11 AM
Of course, happens all the time. Google pump and dump - see the crazy stories about how organises some of these schemes are.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Derrick on March 18, 2018, 04:08:23 AM
Indeed, it's very executable for someone to regulate virtual cash relying in what digital currency, on the off likelihood that someone contribute or hold a bunches of coin at that time pull back it, it'll influence that individual money showcase. this is often factor was actually occurring in showcase trade therefore i feel it's conceivable in addition to occur in virtual money advertise.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: nightxglow on March 18, 2018, 04:12:46 AM
Yes it is quite possible, since what change the market is the demand and supply, and if the entity is great and powerful enough, it will be easy for them if they want to manipulate currency market, since no one rule here so there's no one like government that can protect the market from that thing to happen.
But they will surely need lots of money to do that, and it doesn't really ensure that they will gain any advantages from this, so why should bother to do that?


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: 1battermainsheet3 on March 18, 2018, 05:08:22 AM
The market is floating in a digital space platform and not under someones individual manipulation


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: goldshops65 on March 19, 2018, 02:30:10 AM
yes it can be but he should have to do great


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: volleyballslender6 on March 20, 2018, 05:24:43 AM
if I could have manipulated btcs I will directly close it totally returning peoples savings to them :)


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Alik_Rzasoy on March 20, 2018, 10:09:00 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Of course, it is possible, there are some "Whales"in the market, who possess so much Bitcoins. If some of them deal with each other for selling their bitcoins all together, then the value will decrease, then they will enter to the market by buying Bitcoins with low value but much more than previous.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: unicyclistclapas0 on March 21, 2018, 01:46:19 PM
I don't have any idea regarding. I think its better to be manipulated by great 'whales' not by individuals


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: betlord90 on March 21, 2018, 01:50:40 PM
It's possible! remember macafee's fuds spreading happens those past years? well if you can't remember mcafee words are powerful those past years and he can create some fuds via spreading it on some articles and crypto news. But I wonder why mcafee are so silent today.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: entempo on April 26, 2018, 10:24:39 PM
Of course it is possible - even you can manipulate some shitcoin market with only 0.1BTC. Good expirience, by the way.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Vness10 on April 26, 2018, 10:29:59 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
A lot of people do that manipulate the rises some of them make fud news so people get panic and sell their coins and it sad to say that people do that. But at some point if the price in the market down there's a chance to buy in cheap price and wait again the rise up of the market.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: megamanexe002 on April 26, 2018, 10:43:02 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

There are a lot of hackers in the past years that makes the price of cryptocurrency to decrease or increase due to the fake news and black propaganda's they make so if you are asking that it is possible then the answer is yes indeed.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Burogh on April 27, 2018, 01:31:42 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

I am believe that as we long we involving human, we can manipulate anything. If we have big capital, i think we can manipulating market movement because market movement still depend on supply and demand


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: drm on April 27, 2018, 02:32:00 AM
Of course it is possible - even you can manipulate some shitcoin market with only 0.1BTC. Good expirience, by the way.

There is a difference in controlling  a shitcoin's "tiny" market or the whole "virtual currency market"


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Atits on April 27, 2018, 03:00:11 AM
Very possible especially if that someone has a lot of money to use to manipulate virtual currency market once they sold or bought a huge stock of virtual currency...


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: jamids on April 27, 2018, 03:24:32 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Not the entire market but some of the coins. For now, since bitcoin is like the center of all cryptocurrency, all the whales need to do is to manipulate the bitcoin price. They can spread FUD if they want to because they control the media and they can spread good news if they want to increase its price. In effect, bitcoin price would make rapid price movement wherein majority of the altcoins are affected so it is like manipulating the market as a whole as well. The crypto market is still somehow dependent on the bitcoin price. There are big players in the market that just entered the crypto market which is expected to be a whale as well but then I think they wouldn't trade in exchanges but will do OTC so that price wouldn't be that much affected.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Hemady17 on April 27, 2018, 02:32:21 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Yes manipulation is possible in virtual currency market most especially if they possess lots of capital to invest. It is actually happening right now you will notice that in the market where in the price of the coins suddenly went up without any normal reason. Even there is manipulation in the market; you can still reap benefits by carefully studying the pattern of those coins. You just need to become more creative.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: PX-Z on April 28, 2018, 01:14:39 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Yes it could be possible, but only for those who are called big whales. Because this big whales are those investors that are having a huge amount of money that are invested to virtual currency, which gives a big effect to its market value for every huge withdrawal they make and that's how they manipulate the virtual currency market.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Circles on April 28, 2018, 01:33:28 AM
Yes, I think somebody like Bill Gates, or most other billionaires can really affect the crypto market. And those are just single entities. The banking industry can have total control.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: klasik1980 on April 28, 2018, 01:37:20 AM
Very easy, whales, bots, etc can change prices, fake news can cause panic and there is no halted trading by any central authority. Pump and dumps are perfectly legal in crypto.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: airdrophunter on April 28, 2018, 03:02:21 AM
Noone can manipulate the digital currency market at all. I believe that it can't be manipulated even in the case of Whales because the demand of the people is more stronger than these whales having large quantity of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: doraegun on April 28, 2018, 05:56:55 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?



No, There is not only one person can manipulate this. Only the users such as: miners investors traders can make a motion to Bitcoin price value everyday no one else except it. because since it was build this Digital Currency the Black Chain Market are always transform with its value of the Price daily since 2009 until now. it is automatically calculated in every seconds how much the volume people who invest in bitcoin then it will make  a new additional value and it will totally decreased if many people are stop to their daily investment.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: EnricoGomez on April 29, 2018, 03:00:31 AM
You did say a large and powerful entity.
Yes, it is possible. It can control the market and manipulate it in their own terms and wanting - if and only if, they re powerful enough.
But now, I think no one really can because they would need a huge stock of crypto. The ups and downs of the value now depends on the people using it.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: themughni on May 06, 2018, 04:57:22 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

I think it possible. if that someone has a lot of money to use to manipulate virtual currency market once they sold or bought a huge stock of virtual currency its market will surely change and people will follow with the change. but, it needs big money to do it.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Obeng minn on May 06, 2018, 05:34:46 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
a blockchain based virtual money transaction is unimaginable can be manipulated. everything will be transparent and everyone will know it.
but I think the problem with the price in the market could be a monopoly advantage and manipulate the increase and decrease.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: TheEconomists on May 06, 2018, 05:45:38 AM
I don't think a single individual can manipulate crypto currency but if you talk about group of individual investors that has huge sum of money in the any of the crypto currency which we refer to as whales, they can manipulate crypto currency market in their favour.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: MMA on May 06, 2018, 07:05:11 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

I think it possible. if that someone has a lot of money to use to manipulate virtual currency market once they sold or bought a huge stock of virtual currency its market will surely change and people will follow with the change. but, it needs big money to do it.
Yes it is possible but i think that it is now becoming difficult, because the use of crytpo currencies is increasing which is also increase the price of crypto currencies, i think that in future  it will even become impossible that even big whales will not be able to use to manipulate any single crypto currency.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: FUD Expert on May 06, 2018, 08:22:00 AM
Yes, and they use news outlets and the media to control the prices. It's very easy for them to bring down the price anytime they want by just planning a large FUD articles at the same time which we've already seen many times.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: zoeylee on May 06, 2018, 08:34:04 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Yeah it's very possible as we had seen a big amount of dumps coming from a single wallet. Those whales can manipulate the market condition and create panic to small investors.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: yesuidanggan on May 06, 2018, 09:30:30 AM
Gold is anonymous, but the gold exchange is not anonymous.

But in the early days of the market, market manipulation was inevitable. BTC can't avoid being manipulated!

Because the economic volume of BTC is not large enough, a large amount of capital transaction can affect the price of BTC!


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Pujangga on May 06, 2018, 09:40:28 AM
If the marketcap and the coin are still small it is certainly very easy for anyone to manipulate the price, but if marketcap is very big like ETH or bitcoin it will be difficult for anyone to manipulation the price.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: hygroscopicgymnasiumd on May 07, 2018, 09:46:07 PM
I was going to write the thread In a few days. So I want the answer too.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Rollkal on May 12, 2018, 06:08:00 AM
The virtual currency market rises thanks to whale manipulation. They buy all the copper they want to manipulate, causing the demand to increase and then the price increases. After the prices soar, they started to market.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Dudeperfect on May 12, 2018, 03:37:33 PM
Yes, technically organisation or the group should have a high amount of money to manipulate the market capital but the practically little amount (10% to 40% of the market capital) is enough to create chaos in the market. Crypto market is not mature enough to deal with small price fluctuations and hence most of us get ourselves under the panic situation resulting in a panic decision making that supports the original price fluctuation and hence the little amount is enough to manipulate the market in that way.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Seunbabatunde on May 12, 2018, 03:58:04 PM
There is no way to manipulate virtual currency because its digital currency.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: TheAndy500 on May 13, 2018, 10:55:33 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

I think it possible. if that someone has a lot of money to use to manipulate virtual currency market once they sold or bought a huge stock of virtual currency its market will surely change and people will follow with the change. but, it needs big money to do it.
Yes it is possible but i think that it is now becoming difficult, because the use of crytpo currencies is increasing which is also increase the price of crypto currencies, i think that in future  it will even become impossible that even big whales will not be able to use to manipulate any single crypto currency.
That is true and in future it will be even impossible to just manipulate the price of it thanks to growing number of users which won't sell their coins with panic and prices will stay more stable for me.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: wtbhitlv on May 13, 2018, 11:05:42 AM
Of course, it can be done. We know that the volatility of the encryption market is too volatile and often tumbling. I think there are many times that have been deliberately manipulated, and some whale deliberately made FUD to make people panic selling.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: meatballsset on June 05, 2018, 08:34:18 PM
Yes, having a large amount of Bitcoin can manipulate the virtual currency market. Not only that when you manipulate the market we can buy virtual currency in a lower price.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Vatimins on June 05, 2018, 09:30:47 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?


     While I do not think that a person is rich enough or has enough assets to control the price when it comes to bitcoins, I think that it is still possible if a group of elite people agreed on doing such a scheme. Specially on coins that have such a small market capitalization and volume. Besides, we all know that almost everything is possible when you have a lot of money, what difference does it make in this industry?


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: brotherwood12 on June 05, 2018, 09:50:21 PM
on theory , its possible
but on the real , its hard especially for coin like btc , eth etc  because need huge money to mainpulate that
but its less for new coin , the dev can dominate the priice but if they do it maybe that coin will not get instersted from another ppl


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Piesel on June 05, 2018, 10:30:05 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Yes of course that this guy can easily control the market without any problem. Moreover, he can do what he wants in this market can create tons of pump and dump things. However, right now, there is no one having enough entity to control the market. I hope that this will never happen


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: patz22 on June 06, 2018, 12:45:12 AM
Absolutely! I've seen a lot of this in every exchange. There are instances that if they want to pump/dump it they will buy/sell(in small increments) on a price that they want however it is risky and also a person or a group needs a lot of capital to do this.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Coin-1 on June 06, 2018, 01:39:57 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
I think it possible. if that someone has a lot of money to use to manipulate virtual currency market once they sold or bought a huge stock of virtual currency its market will surely change and people will follow with the change. but, it needs big money to do it.
Yes it is possible but i think that it is now becoming difficult, because the use of crytpo currencies is increasing which is also increase the price of crypto currencies, i think that in future  it will even become impossible that even big whales will not be able to use to manipulate any single crypto currency.

Indeed. I noticed that the "whales" don't pump or dump only one crypto currency. They always sell all of the different coins they bought, lest other traders trying to keep their money will jump to another crypto currency. If the global capitalization of the crypto exchange markets will be enough large, it will be more difficult to manipulate the prices of the coins, but I guess the "whales" can do much anyway.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: squog on June 06, 2018, 02:21:17 AM
Have you heard of whales? They're basically controlling the market as it is. If there is a huge supply of coin floating around the market, then they will buy it to boost the price. Then sell it to drop it. That is why we small investors should hold on to our coins. When the market dips, we should buy more so the whales would have less power to control it.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: speedy963 on June 06, 2018, 03:41:37 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
I think it possible. if that someone has a lot of money to use to manipulate virtual currency market once they sold or bought a huge stock of virtual currency its market will surely change and people will follow with the change. but, it needs big money to do it.
Yes it is possible but i think that it is now becoming difficult, because the use of crytpo currencies is increasing which is also increase the price of crypto currencies, i think that in future  it will even become impossible that even big whales will not be able to use to manipulate any single crypto currency.

Indeed. I noticed that the "whales" don't pump or dump only one crypto currency. They always sell all of the different coins they bought, lest other traders trying to keep their money will jump to another crypto currency. If the global capitalization of the crypto exchange markets will be enough large, it will be more difficult to manipulate the prices of the coins, but I guess the "whales" can do much anyway.
Since then we can already observe that they can do as much as they want because they have tons of money and lots of holdings to play with. While some people keep on complaining about the prices while they are playing, some also just ride the flow and just surfing all over the spectacular prices, although its a bit scary but if you don't have guts to risk, you will remain from where you are and the worst is that you will just regret.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: rocketbits on June 06, 2018, 10:22:50 AM
Yes, having a large amount of Bitcoin can manipulate the virtual currency market. Not only that when you manipulate the market we can buy virtual currency in a lower price.
That is what whales are doing right away. They are doing this for so long time and believe me they have such huge power after god over this bitcoins and crypto market that they can maniple the results as per their own will. They have got such huge packages of coins that if they want to make market down, they are just away to give one simple sell and then panic selling takes the way along.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: EnricoGomez on June 06, 2018, 02:29:33 PM
It is totally possible.
Though only if that person or group of people hold a huge percentage of total cryptocurrency amount, they can totally manipulate the market to their own liking. But yes, there will be still ups on the market to which you can preferably sell your coins at - I do not see why them bigger holders would not want high price casuall, too.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: musdafakfl on June 06, 2018, 02:34:42 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Of course it is possible that the main reason for this is that there is no center and method in this market. Although it is an act that is regarded as a crime in the society, we can face this situation in many places today. We can easily manipulate certain selected options with a high budget, which is now known as a fairly easy process.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Sled on June 06, 2018, 03:15:20 PM
If you have got a lot of money and you can purchase a lot of bitcoin to fund your exchange account then you can manipulate the market, how? By purchasing a particular coin and that will attract a lot of eyes and attention of the traders or investors because they think that something good happened in that coin and they will buy that coin because they don't want to lose the train and unexpectedly, you will sell now and dump all your coins and buy at the lower price and do the same process again.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: bohr on June 06, 2018, 04:48:28 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Those entities are known as whales, some individuals and exchanges have an amount of bitcoin so big that they are able to manipulate the market, however they cannot manipulate it fully, they need to wait for the right opportunity, for example when segwit was activated a bull run was inevitable but the whales were very smart and fueled it and we reached very high prices as a result of their actions.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: cryptobluemoon on June 06, 2018, 06:02:46 PM
there might be fake pump and dump happens due to decentralized market nature we can say a lot of fakes volumes can be generated to mislead the buyers


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: dongyi17 on June 07, 2018, 02:46:13 AM
For me, only investor can manipulate in virtual currency, because they pump and dump the price of crypto market. And i think the market exchange also,, some market have bot, so some altcoins red and green.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: vazarii on June 07, 2018, 02:47:25 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Yes, big whales are already doing it. In my opinion, it is harder in case of bitcoins as it is old and there are many investors who got involved when crypto was in early stages and whales were not noticing this.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: boksoon on June 07, 2018, 03:04:17 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?




No its not because because no one or no organization can manage or manipulate the price, only investor and business aspects related to Bitcoin exchanges are the reason to movable Price of Bitcoin like what I compared the Stock exchange market her in the Philippines should be IN and OUT production invest of Bitcoin that's it.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: maxreish on June 07, 2018, 04:26:53 AM
Maybe all of us, price manipulation is always sink in into our mind,espicially if we always watch the movement of the price of the bitcoin on the market, but the problem is we do not know the truth if there is a really perpetrators and who have the ability to manipulate the price in the market or its just normal circumstance thing that could be happen because we are on the market system.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: irbayhan on June 07, 2018, 05:41:34 AM
I suppose it's not only oossible, but it takes places often. It doesn't always relate ti smaller or newer coins, but for BTC for sure. Recently the news's popped out that EOS is in fact, quite centralized with dozen of users have over 50% of assets.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: weblouartisan on June 07, 2018, 06:09:24 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

There are different ways to manipulate virtual currency in the market, even just a false news can make disaster in the market and that is the reason why we should always read speculations in order to determine if we should invest or sell our coins today.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: fcf1081 on June 07, 2018, 06:30:59 AM
Yes it's possible but we never know how it works, mostly the big company and big investor are sometimes the deciding factor who contribute for the manipulation of the virtual currency if not at least they have the part.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: DgurJIupyf on June 07, 2018, 06:33:54 AM
If we are talking about altcoins, then of course Yes it can be in the hands of monopolists. The price of a coin can be raised and then lowered. Especially when there are small trade volumes. Enough of 2-5 million $ to about pumpit altcoins


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: patarfweefwee on June 07, 2018, 06:34:19 AM
Of course! It's all the matter of how much money you got and how much coin is in supply. Generally if there is a surplus of available tokens then there is a huge room for manipulating the price. Since the price of crypto currency is heavily dependent on the supply it has in the market. That's why small investors should always hold their coins.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Duogembrot on June 07, 2018, 07:13:46 AM
seems to have not been able to because now I see already very many who join and play trading so it is not good if you manipulate the price because it will look and it will make you a loss yourself.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Emitdama on June 07, 2018, 12:39:27 PM
Yes it is possible to manipulate the price of Bitcoin but that will require a lot of money maybe up to a millions of dollars. If you think that just a small amount of money can move Bitcoin, then you’re wrong. For you to manipulate the price of Bitcoin you will have to invest up to millions of dollars. I read about a twin that manipulated the price last year. They are both millionaires and joined together to invest a big amount of money which made them the first to make billions out of Bitcoin investment.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: laravuemaster on June 07, 2018, 12:46:26 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

its not possible for someone to manipulate the market unless this person is a hacker or some person of the company who has an intention of bringing fake news like dropping of the prices of cryptocurrency in order for them to have an advantage.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: MRY on June 07, 2018, 12:58:49 PM
Of course it is possible, because there is only a limited supply of the market. If someone has a great investment then he can manipulate the price. If he will withhold his investment then the price will go up but when he sells all his investment the price will continue to fall


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: shone08 on June 07, 2018, 01:10:41 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

its not possible for someone to manipulate the market unless this person is a hacker or some person of the company who has an intention of bringing fake news like dropping of the prices of cryptocurrency in order for them to have an advantage.

You have a point dude in your opinion but what I notice in the market theres a lot of big whales that can manipulate the price of any coin, but this action not take so long maybe in a short period of time or after their gain profit.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: leostrong.mo on June 07, 2018, 01:23:40 PM
Only a large amount of money can be combined to affect the price of cryptocurrency!
When these funds may be purchased for some sort of encryption, prices will go up!
If you collectively sell this cryptocurrency, the price will fall!


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: tabas on June 07, 2018, 04:40:48 PM
Anyone that has that advantage can surely control the market on his own purpose. This is why the crypto market is very volatile and they are also the reason behind it.
its not possible for someone to manipulate the market unless this person is a hacker or some person of the company who has an intention of bringing fake news like dropping of the prices of cryptocurrency in order for them to have an advantage.
Hacker? I don't get it why this word has been included for the market influence.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: superstarbtc on June 15, 2018, 08:28:10 PM
manipulation is the very sensitive topic no one can give proper explanation until we have proper evidence on it well crypto market are nt manipulative in my view but they decentralised in nature


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: yazman on June 15, 2018, 08:47:28 PM
Absolutely! I've seen a lot of this in every exchange. There are instances that if they want to pump/dump it they will buy/sell(in small increments) on a price that they want however it is risky and also a person or a group needs a lot of capital to do this.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Indai24 on June 17, 2018, 02:45:02 PM
Absolutely! I've seen a lot of this in every exchange. There are instances that if they want to pump/dump it they will buy/sell(in small increments) on a price that they want however it is risky and also a person or a group needs a lot of capital to do this.


Possibly, whatever it is there's always a person behind everything and manipulating the market. We really can't avoid these people because they are part of the market.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: bohr on June 17, 2018, 04:15:16 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Yes, big whales are already doing it. In my opinion, it is harder in case of bitcoins as it is old and there are many investors who got involved when crypto was in early stages and whales were not noticing this.
Trying to manipulate bitcoin is getting harder but only if you are holding fiat since bitcoin is getting more expensive after each year, but if you are holding a lot of bitcoins and whales do, then it is easy to manipulate the price, if you want to make the price to go down you only need to sell some of your coins when there is a strong FUD and the market will crash and then the whales can get cheap coins after the market reaches the bottom.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: longyenthanh on June 17, 2018, 04:43:10 PM
Absolutely! I've seen a lot of this in every exchange. There are instances that if they want to pump/dump it they will buy/sell(in small increments) on a price that they want however it is risky and also a person or a group needs a lot of capital to do this.


Possibly, whatever it is there's always a person behind everything and manipulating the market. We really can't avoid these people because they are part of the market.
That depends on which part of market we are talking about cause some of coins haven't got "people" behing them so it would be hard to manipulate them in any possible way.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Kiss me on June 17, 2018, 05:37:28 PM
Of course, happens all the time. Google pump and dump - see the crazy stories about how organises some of these schemes are.




I think If the company has high liquidity, it is used by big banks and companies. For profit speculation. They have an informal arrangement among themselves to buy the currency of EN masse. Thus creating hype and artificial demand for currencies that currently no supply.
Financial collusion poses the greatest danger to all types of markets. Stock market players often use speculative methods to generate quick profits. Various methods of manipulation From information technology to everyday psychology is used.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Yaminat on June 17, 2018, 06:20:09 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
Manipulate the growth and fall of the virtual currency market, and try to banks and whales and central government, but to gain a monopoly advantage, I think it is impossible, because bitcoin is provided only by people's faith in it!


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Boh manok on June 17, 2018, 06:25:03 PM
If I do not think it's because the virtual currency is controlled by the market itself so Tidka can be controlled by someone who is in it about the rise and fall of the price of a virtual currency is and maybe that determines the price is the people who transact in it .


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: kive2k on June 18, 2018, 06:01:26 PM
I think it is possible for holders of large capitals in the market, still possible bots, but this is not as effective as whales.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: shackleford on June 18, 2018, 06:28:56 PM
I am absolutely convinced that the market of any asset is managed by a group of people. I will give an example of Oil and gold - this assets, which are constantly manipulated by the miners of this resource. In cryptocurrency, those who have a lot of coins or the one who mines with mining the most are manipulated. And of course speculators always want to profit from an interesting price.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Pab on June 18, 2018, 06:34:51 PM
yes sure virtual currencies market is manipulated.With old techniques what is set up big buy big sell order is easy to manipulate market.Same technique was used to manipulate gold market.Now CFTC wants to investigate that
It is criminal behavior and can be sentenced by years in prison.Less money on market easier to manipulate market


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: ASHLIUSZ on June 18, 2018, 06:40:34 PM
I've heard that the market can be manipulated by the whales who hold a large volume of bitcoin. In reality too, this is truly a possible fact. Because, even when there is a lots of fund mismanagement the price tends to fall much low in value and the similar scenario is the thing with a mass volume getting in the hands of whales.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: sana54210 on June 19, 2018, 12:29:43 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
I don’t really know how manipulation of prices works, but if it’s by people having enough power or capital to control prices, then I think the whales should be the ones doing that. I just read a news article that says government are looking for criminals that are manipulating prices.

That got me to be asking ‘who are these criminals?, does it have anything to do with whales?’ if so then there is no need looking cause they are in the open and we know most of them. I don’t trust government when they say sh%ts like that.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: MCVXYZ on June 19, 2018, 02:58:26 PM
I think today its possible and that's why today's market capitalization is 290 billion and not even 7...Today people don't know the real prices of coins because of speculative behaviors from large investors,But if  there are much more institutional money there will be a better balance,therefore it will be possible to see the real prices..So the answer is YES,because there are too many investors with billionaires who want to manipulate the virtual currency market and its not as hard for them as it seems with a huge capital.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Harrow30 on June 19, 2018, 03:04:28 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?


The cryptocurrency market can be influenced; especially by news as it is still very volatile! We have a good example of the docademic that is presently being positively influenced by John McAfee. You can readily see the resultant effect of FUDS on the markets too.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Experia on June 19, 2018, 03:07:54 PM
manipulation is the very sensitive topic no one can give proper explanation until we have proper evidence on it well crypto market are nt manipulative in my view but they decentralised in nature

for me by being a huge investors then pulling out the invesment in the market can be a sign of manipulation because if you have a huge investment then pulling it out the market will react in negative way.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: weiweianll on June 20, 2018, 11:03:24 PM
From the perspective of the stock market, someone controls the price of stocks, and the market for cryptocurrencies is easier to manipulate!
Because the market value of the cryptocurrency is much smaller than the stock market, and the market for cryptocurrency is open 24 hours!


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Dmitry.Vastov on June 30, 2018, 04:32:54 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

If we deeply observe the valuation of bitcoin then it is not the function of a individual, it always depends on a group and as I stated in my previous posts also that the factor of valuation depends on several factors like market demand and supply and then the number of investors and the amount of capital people are investing into bitcoin, so it is not possible for an individual to alter the valuation of crypto currency but a group can alter the valuation of crypto currency by either withdrawing or depositing huge amount into crypto


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Bitfling on June 30, 2018, 07:10:23 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

I think its almost impossible. With market cap more than $200billions dollar, its need a large money to manipulate market price. Beside that, cryptocurrency is decentralize system and no one control supply


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: moshk555 on July 08, 2018, 09:15:16 PM
It all depends on how widespread its blockchain network is if you are talking about a large network controlling it becomes increasingly difficult as for cause to control a virtual currency you need to have control over 50 or more percent of the market which is easy to achieve if the market is narrow.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: dewi91 on July 08, 2018, 10:16:09 PM
nothing impossible in crypto market can be manipulated by someone or a grup but it's not easy, it will need a big power and need very much money. as we know crypto currency are the great ways to earn money and people will do everything to get a lot of money.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: pantheraio on July 08, 2018, 10:25:39 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

It will be difficult, it is like they can but they will not be able to manipulate bitcoin in the market. Only altcoin they can manipulate because the volume is still small compared to bitcoin. The point if you want to manipulate requires a lot of money.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: stayeduptolate on July 14, 2018, 09:58:03 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
The valuation and the economic market of crypto currency is not fixed ever because the valuation of bitcoin and all other crypto currencies is governed by many factors and these factors plays a very crucial role in the flactuation and determining the real valuation of bitcoin and the most important factor is market demand and supply of bitcoin, greater the demand, greater will be the valuation and vice versa and there are other factors too like the number of investors and the whales and the amount they are investing into bitcoin etc.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: leavefifa on August 18, 2018, 01:51:51 PM
The nature of Bitcoin and the electronic currency built on the Blockchain technology is essentially unchangeable. The Cryptocurrency market is volatile due to currency fluctuations. As an electronic market, Crypto also follows a number of commercial rules, such as supply and demand. Whales that hold large amounts of Bitcoin can manipulate this market through Bitcoin trading. They manipulate the Cryptocurrency market indirectly.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: gabmen on August 18, 2018, 02:37:33 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

It will be difficult, it is like they can but they will not be able to manipulate bitcoin in the market. Only altcoin they can manipulate because the volume is still small compared to bitcoin. The point if you want to manipulate requires a lot of money.

Who says they can't? I'm pretty sure a lot of us are aware that it's not only possible, but it is actually happening. Whales don't only have a lot of alts, they of course have bitcoin as well. And if they want to, with the amount of btc they have, they can very well move the market they way they want to.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Hairatuner on September 13, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
The price of crypto is influenced by supply and demand. Maybe if someone wants to manipulate the price in order to go up, they buy lots of coins so demand on the coins goes up and prices start to rise, then they sell it when the price actually goes up.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: ParkSaezz on September 15, 2018, 09:14:59 AM
People with huge shares or holdings more likely have the power to do such thing especially when they decide to sell a huge amount of its holdings. Situations like this is very much normal and happens almost all the time.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: icecream sandwich on September 15, 2018, 09:36:08 AM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
I think so. People can manipulate if they know how to. Actually, whales or big investors is doing it at the moment to the price of ethereum. if you will just observe the price of eth it has constant drop and rise of price which lead me to the conclusion that someone is playing with the price of it.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: darkr on September 25, 2018, 11:38:00 AM

The market of the cryptocurrency has been manipulated already. The whales (people that have the greatest amount of crypto) can buy 51% of the coins and let the market fall.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: 1NV3ST0NM3 on September 25, 2018, 12:20:11 PM
Everyone is well aware of the fact that the virtual currency market is highly affected by the events happening around in the crypto market. So it is surely possible as you say, for a monopoly or an influential group of persons. All what is happening around the market has a direct or indiirect influence on the market prices. So it is quite possible to manipulate the market. But there is one thing to be noted in this context that you cannot manipulate the market exactly in the manner you want, it may also backfire, that is to say, something that you never expected may happen!


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: carlisle1 on September 25, 2018, 12:35:06 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

If a person or a group holds more than a million volume of bitcoins then they can easily manipulate the market,or they cam create some news to mke the market goes up and down as we knew about the attitide of more cryptonians whos getting panicking and sells their coins and this will be took advantage by this manipulator’s


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: BitcoinTurk on September 25, 2018, 12:43:21 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?

Yes, all investors with sufficient financial power can easily control the price in this market. In particular, we can see that they make these transactions in the options that do not have too much transaction volume and they earn money as a result of these checks. Bitcoin price control has become quite difficult in the last 2 years, as market conditions and market volume are no longer low. Although difficult, the group of large investors can control this price at times. But we can see that there is no more price control over Bitcoin and investors are concentrating on other options. The lower the transaction volume of the designated cryptocurrency, the easier it will be to control the price, but the price controls in cryptocurrencies with very low trading volumes are not successful at times.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: zhanyiguai261315 on September 25, 2018, 12:43:45 PM
Since the first day of the birth of the cryptocurrency, there are traders who are manipulating the market!
Similar to traditional financial markets, market manipulation may be the most profitable thing for cryptocurrency investors.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: muddy waters on September 25, 2018, 12:53:47 PM
If an entity is large and powerful enough, is it possible for it to gain a monopoly advantage and manipulate the rises and falls of the virtual currency market?
It's not just possible, it's being done all the time by whales who own large volumes of cryptocurrencies.
The way I see it is that they create panic and thus make people sell their coins at low prices. Then whales buy those coins back and pump the market.
Isn't that manipulation?


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: Summation on September 25, 2018, 01:58:38 PM
Yes, the current cryptocurrency can still be considered manipulated because it is not very expensive, and perhaps when the bitcoin rises above $500,000, the market will not be manipulated.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: spongegar on September 26, 2018, 04:05:53 AM
I guess so. If you have tue money and influence to uy lets say all the available crypto currency of a specific coin then i guess it is possible to manipulate it, but to what end? Who will profit of you manipulate a coin that tou have a major stake in it? To raise the value? Maybe so. Then again, I don't know how these things work at all.


Title: Re: Is it possible for someone to manipulate the virtual currency market?
Post by: andriw on September 26, 2018, 07:52:54 AM
Of course, market turmoil is strongly influenced by issues, news, and movement of coin holders. Even fake issues are able to move the market, moreover that raises the issue is from an influential and powerful entity.