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Title: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: cointerra on September 24, 2013, 12:18:09 AM
We have recently released a new video demonstrating a working FGPA, as well as additional GoldStrike1 ASIC chip details.

To watch the video and read the full release, please head to http://cointerra.com/cointerra-demonstrates-working-fpga-releases-additional-chip-details/ .


If you can't wait and just want the GoldStrike ASIC specs, here they are!

Global Foundries: 28nm HPP process.Clock-speed: 1.4 GHz (min binning speed) to 2 GHz (max binning speed)

Die size: 3 dies of 10x10 mm for a total of 300 sqmm.

Hash rate: 504 GH/s to 720 GH/s based on binning speed

Hashes per sq mm: 1.68 GH/s/mm2 to 2.4 GH/s/mm2

Power consumption: <0.6 watts/GH/s (@ 0.765 volts)

Architecture: pipelined unrolled hashing units

Tape-out due: 1st week of October

System cooling:  Custom designed liquid cooling by CoolIT Systems capable of 400 watts per chip, though the chip will not exceed 300 watts in normal operating condition. incorporating  3x high speed 12cm fans with 4U sized radiator at the back.  System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.

Logistics: By design, all suppliers (excluding ASIC), including PCB design, board and box assembly provided locally in Austin to reduce shipping delays of parts between locations and eliminate delays due to logistics or customs.

Significant payments made to fab to expedite process from usual 90+ days to 65 days.

Chips expected back, early December.

Systems expected to begin shipping to customers, Mid December.


If you have any questions, you can always reach us at info@cointerra.com or 512-270-6050.


Best Regards,
CoinTerra Team


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: bobsag3 on September 24, 2013, 03:30:01 AM
Awesome news, I look forward to having some of these hosted at my facility.
As A native texan , are you guys ok with organized ahead of time visits?


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: superduh on September 24, 2013, 04:50:16 AM
good job


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: PuertoLibre on September 24, 2013, 06:28:58 AM
You now have my legitimate attention.


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: Sitarow on September 24, 2013, 07:04:59 AM
We have recently released a new video demonstrating a working FGPA, as well as additional GoldStrike1 ASIC chip details.

To watch the video and read the full release, please head to http://cointerra.com/cointerra-demonstrates-working-fpga-releases-additional-chip-details/ .


If you can't wait and just want the GoldStrike ASIC specs, here they are!

Global Foundries: 28nm HPP process.Clock-speed: 1.4 GHz (min binning speed) to 2 GHz (max binning speed)

Die size: 3 dies of 10x10 nm for a total of 300 sqmm.

Hash rate: 504 GH/s to 720 GH/s based on binning speed

Hashes per sq mm: 1.67 GH/s/mm2 to 2.34 GH/s/mm2

Power consumption: <0.6 watts/GH/s (@ 0.765 volts)

Architecture: pipelined unrolled hashing units

Tape-out due: 1st week of October

System cooling:  Custom designed liquid cooling by CoolIT Systems capable of 400 watts per chip, though the chip will not exceed 300 watts in normal operating condition. incorporating  3x high speed 12cm fans with 4U sized radiator at the back.  System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.

Logistics: By design, all suppliers (excluding ASIC), including PCB design, board and box assembly provided locally in Austin to reduce shipping delays of parts between locations and eliminate delays due to logistics or customs.

Significant payments made to fab to expedite process from usual 90+ days to 65 days.

Chips expected back, early December.

Systems expected to begin shipping to customers, Mid December.


If you have any questions, you can always reach us at info@cointerra.com or 512-270-6050.


Best Regards,
CoinTerra Team

Thank you for sharing this video.

I for one am pleased to see this hands on demonstration showing the team behind the Cointerra name in action.
This progress video helps instill confidence on them realistically hitting their December 2013 shipping target.

Well that is as long as everything goes according to plan. :)


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: GodHatesFigs on September 24, 2013, 07:52:06 AM
December can't come soon enough!


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: fractal02 on September 24, 2013, 10:09:23 AM
YES !!!  ;D


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: beardays on September 24, 2013, 10:32:17 AM
any plan to offer hosting?


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: Bicknellski on September 24, 2013, 12:07:52 PM
Boss da chips da chips... are they for sale?


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: cad_cdn on September 24, 2013, 05:03:39 PM
ahh, tattoo...

Boss da chips da chips... are they for sale?


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: cointerra on September 24, 2013, 06:03:39 PM
any plan to offer hosting?

Yes, we absolutely plan to offer a hosting solution for our customers. We are currently in discussions with multiple hosting providers and will select a list of approved partners in the next few weeks.

We will offer these hosting options to all of our existing and future customers.


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: zulover on September 24, 2013, 08:58:14 PM
500ghs will be so sslow by that time


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: fractal02 on September 24, 2013, 09:21:49 PM
500ghs will be so sslow by that time

http://media.giphy.com/media/rz4EUTW5HQl56/giphy.gif

Glad you wake up zulover ;)

But now update your news and go pick your poison here ==> http://cointerra.com/shop/


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: Xian01 on September 24, 2013, 09:33:09 PM
You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.

$6k for 2TH in January ? Awfully tempting...


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: Supercomputing on September 24, 2013, 10:28:14 PM
Congratulations on your milestone


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: xzempt on September 24, 2013, 10:51:38 PM
going from a working FPGA to an ASIC isnt a simple task.....    I'd save the bragging for when you have a functional prototype.....


just my 2 cents


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: GodHatesFigs on September 24, 2013, 11:01:39 PM
going from a working FPGA to an ASIC isnt a simple task.....    I'd save the bragging for when you have a functional prototype.....


just my 2 cents

True, but just check out the pedigree of their team.


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: miter_myles on September 24, 2013, 11:27:28 PM
http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1374/83/1374838299294.jpg

also - why must we have another thread outside the original one???

-2 pts for that/this bullshit


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: cointerra on September 25, 2013, 03:38:25 AM
Awesome news, I look forward to having some of these hosted at my facility.
As A native texan , are you guys ok with organized ahead of time visits?
Yes, you are always welcome to visit us in Austin! :)


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: bobsag3 on September 25, 2013, 05:10:09 AM
Awesome news, I look forward to having some of these hosted at my facility.
As A native texan , are you guys ok with organized ahead of time visits?
Yes, you are always welcome to visit us in Austin! :)
Shot yall a PM :)


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: Puppet on September 25, 2013, 07:12:29 AM
3 (square) dies in a package seems a strange choice. Are you putting in 4 and having one for redundancy?  Or was the number chosen to keep cooling manageable?


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: blackarrow on September 25, 2013, 09:22:27 AM
We have recently released a new video demonstrating a working FGPA, as well as additional GoldStrike1 ASIC chip details.

Tape-out due: 1st week of October


If you just got the FPGA to work, how can you complete the back-end trial-run, back-end final-run and functional verification in 1 week?


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: thanke on September 25, 2013, 10:49:45 AM
We have recently released a new video demonstrating a working FGPA, as well as additional GoldStrike1 ASIC chip details.

To watch the video and read the full release, please head to http://cointerra.com/cointerra-demonstrates-working-fpga-releases-additional-chip-details/ .

The screenshot in the video shows solo-mining on the testnet. The first block created there was block #106507 at Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:52:32 GMT. We also mined on eligius (statistics at http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P17UueqcMDw2P8FWv8Ny4ryGopicQmJPN (http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P17UueqcMDw2P8FWv8Ny4ryGopicQmJPN)).

Timo


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: cointerra on September 25, 2013, 03:27:27 PM
We have recently released a new video demonstrating a working FGPA, as well as additional GoldStrike1 ASIC chip details.

Tape-out due: 1st week of October


If you just got the FPGA to work, how can you complete the back-end trial-run, back-end final-run and functional verification in 1 week?


The Backend process has been going on for weeks. Functional verification is long done.
It is not a serial process. We are taping out 1st week of Oct.


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: g0dbra1n on September 25, 2013, 08:17:16 PM
We have recently released a new video demonstrating a working FGPA, as well as additional GoldStrike1 ASIC chip details.

To watch the video and read the full release, please head to http://cointerra.com/cointerra-demonstrates-working-fpga-releases-additional-chip-details/ .

The screenshot in the video shows solo-mining on the testnet. The first block created there was block #106507 at Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:52:32 GMT. We also mined on eligius (statistics at http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1P17UueqcMDw2P8FWv8Ny4ryGopicQmJPN).

Timo

Thanks for the link! ;D


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: dogie on September 26, 2013, 02:38:23 AM
System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.
Did no one actually read this? The chips don't even exist yet and the spec rollbacks are already happening. Now takes 2x the space.


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: creativex on September 26, 2013, 03:07:21 AM
Yeah the case size increase isn't pretty. Hashfast is sticking with their 2U case size story for sierra(1.2Th).


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: bobsag3 on September 26, 2013, 04:47:04 AM
Awesome news, I look forward to having some of these hosted at my facility.
As A native texan , are you guys ok with organized ahead of time visits?
Yes, you are always welcome to visit us in Austin! :)
Shot yall a PM :)
Still no response.


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: aerobatic on September 26, 2013, 05:04:24 AM
System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.
Did no one actually read this? The chips don't even exist yet and the spec rollbacks are already happening. Now takes 2x the space.

I would prefer better cooling to a smaller case if given a choice.

How is that a spec rollback?


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on September 26, 2013, 05:12:38 AM
System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.
Did no one actually read this? The chips don't even exist yet and the spec rollbacks are already happening. Now takes 2x the space.

I would prefer better cooling to a smaller case if given a choice.

How is that a spec rollback?


If someone was looking to rent an entire datacenter rack.  They would get 25.2 TH per rack using HF and "only" 20 TH per rack using Cointerra.  The older spec would have been 42 TH per rack.


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: URSAY on September 26, 2013, 05:20:36 AM
Awesome news, I look forward to having some of these hosted at my facility.
As A native texan , are you guys ok with organized ahead of time visits?
Yes, you are always welcome to visit us in Austin! :)
Shot yall a PM :)
Still no response.

It hasn't even been 24 hours.

Eaaaaaassssssssyyyyyyyy.  :)


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: aerobatic on September 26, 2013, 02:42:05 PM
System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.
Did no one actually read this? The chips don't even exist yet and the spec rollbacks are already happening. Now takes 2x the space.

I would prefer better cooling to a smaller case if given a choice.

How is that a spec rollback?


If someone was looking to rent an entire datacenter rack.  They would get 25.2 TH per rack using HF and "only" 20 TH per rack using Cointerra.  The older spec would have been 42 TH per rack.

Generally hosting is charged by the KW and not by the space it consumes so ther would be no difference in cost for requiring more rack space

Also the more important Criteria is cooling. Generally there is a limit of 8-10 kW per rack and usually it's less than 10 KW per rack. Few data centers allow more. Thus you will be sparsely populating these Bitcoin mining equipment on the racks with plenty of air in between regardless of 2U or 4U box size so in practice it would take the same amount of rack apace regardless of box size. And cooling these power hungry chips is very important cos they're temperature sensitive and run faster when they're cooler.



Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: dogie on September 26, 2013, 07:09:29 PM
System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.
Did no one actually read this? The chips don't even exist yet and the spec rollbacks are already happening. Now takes 2x the space.

I would prefer better cooling to a smaller case if given a choice.

How is that a spec rollback?


If someone was looking to rent an entire datacenter rack.  They would get 25.2 TH per rack using HF and "only" 20 TH per rack using Cointerra.  The older spec would have been 42 TH per rack.

Generally hosting is charged by the KW and not by the space it consumes so ther would be no difference in cost for requiring more rack space

Also the more important Criteria is cooling. Generally there is a limit of 8-10 kW per rack and usually it's less than 10 KW per rack. Few data centers allow more. Thus you will be sparsely populating these Bitcoin mining equipment on the racks with plenty of air in between regardless of 2U or 4U box size so in practice it would take the same amount of rack apace regardless of box size. And cooling these power hungry chips is very important cos they're temperature sensitive and run faster when they're cooler.


Then why didn't they think of that in the first place?

Its like promising a 4x4 then deciding you dont need rear wheel drive and just saying "here is your 2x4, its better I promise".


Title: Re: CoinTerra Demonstrates Working FPGA. Releases Additional ASIC Chip Details.
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on September 26, 2013, 08:03:06 PM
Generally hosting is charged by the KW and not by the space it consumes so ther would be no difference in cost for requiring more rack space

Well generally it is charged by both. 

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Also the more important Criteria is cooling. Generally there is a limit of 8-10 kW per rack and usually it's less than 10 KW per rack. Few data centers allow more.

Many do if you are using a private cage.  Depending on the provider you can get up to ~25 KW (two 60A 208 drops).  Beyond that is probably going to require three phase.

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Thus you will be sparsely populating these Bitcoin mining equipment on the racks with plenty of air in between regardless of 2U or 4U box size so in practice it would take the same amount of rack apace regardless of box size. And cooling these power hungry chips is very important cos they're temperature sensitive and run faster when they're cooler.

If you are putting 1 U space between units then it is 3U vs 5U still means less units per rack.   At 5U (4U unit plus 1U space).  You are looking at only 8 units per rack.  If it is 2 TH/s and pulls 0.8 J/GH (at the wall) it is "only" 12 KW per rack.  Granted it isn't the end of the world and for most users it probably makes no difference but it does mean less density.  I though 1 TH/U was pretty aggressive.