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Title: My life as a merit source
Post by: MeritSourceLife on February 25, 2018, 01:29:00 AM
I am a merit source. Not this user, this is an Alt I have created to express myself freely.

I became a merit source a little bit to my own surprise, but I accepted the challenge because it is a worthy one. These are some things I want to share with the community, particularly those that are interested in getting merit:

- I have lots of merit to give away. I mean that I have to spend quite a bit of time looking for good posts just to make sure I distribute my monthly quota correctly. I rarely merit more than 3 points.

- I check the users. Before meriting you I take a look at your merit profile. What do you think that would happen if I find that you are trading merit with other users in low quality posts...

a) You join my list of people that will not get merit from me in quite a long time, even if the post is good.
b) You get reported in the threads that deal with these issues.
c) If the abuse is huge and made by senior users, I will try to give negative trust for you and all your alts so you will be effectively banned from campaigns.
d) All of the above.

- I donīt really care if you have a farm, if you want to participate in campaigns and spam the threads, nor if you want to bump useless threads or any similar thing. Do it as freely as you want, that is,  as long as you understand that you wonīt get merit unless you do good posts and you and your alts will be at their current rankings forever. I may very well consider your latest posting history before giving you merit. JUST DONīT FARM MERIT.

- Donīt ask for merit. I donīt know about other sources but I will probably put you on a temporal merit ban for that.

- I am human and that means several things:

a) I am not 100% objective. I try to merit as objectively as possible and I am sorry for any good post that I miss or if I consider your post of insufficient quality.
b) You can possibly fool me but you canīt "hack me". I am not an algorithm, there is no recurrent method you can use to get merit from me other that relevant and quality posting, including helping others significantly or making intelligent questions. As human, I am good at detecting patterns.

I canīt check everything, but I do check in depth from time to time. If you are thinking of developing a scheme with many alts to transfer merit know that two things may happen:

1st - You will join my lists of ever-meritless.
2nd - You will have to put so much effort that you would be much better off posting quality.


- I am not free to abuse the system. Merit sources are going to be under scrutiny from the public and possibly from the admins, so not only I donīt want to sell merit nor use merit to my own benefit, I am not free to do so.

I hope this clarifies the situation for many users and I also hope to see less threads about merit and more about cryptocurrencies.

Donīt merit this user please, is my Alt and is here only for my own privacy.







Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on February 25, 2018, 01:40:56 AM
Just out of curiosity, where do you browse for quality posts, I mean sections, the most?


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: MeritSourceLife on February 25, 2018, 02:04:18 AM
Just out of curiosity, where do you browse for quality posts, I mean sections, the most?

b) You can possibly fool me but you canīt "hack me". I am not an algorithm, there is no recurrent method you can use to get merit from me other that relevant and quality posting, including helping others significantly or making intelligent questions. As human, I am good at detecting patterns.


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: Thirio on February 25, 2018, 04:24:53 AM
Just out of curiosity, where do you browse for quality posts, I mean sections, the most?

b) You can possibly fool me but you canīt "hack me". I am not an algorithm, there is no recurrent method you can use to get merit from me other that relevant and quality posting, including helping others significantly or making intelligent questions. As human, I am good at detecting patterns.
Don't know if you're serious or not but I didn't expect to laugh here!



Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on February 25, 2018, 06:43:35 AM
Just out of curiosity, where do you browse for quality posts, I mean sections, the most?

b) You can possibly fool me but you canīt "hack me". I am not an algorithm, there is no recurrent method you can use to get merit from me other that relevant and quality posting, including helping others significantly or making intelligent questions. As human, I am good at detecting patterns.


O_o .. You probably didn't got my point here. There are some undervalued sections like the mining and pools and to get Merit points there is almost impossible.


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: BivanF on February 25, 2018, 08:50:06 AM
Just out of curiosity, where do you browse for quality posts, I mean sections, the most?

b) You can possibly fool me but you canīt "hack me". I am not an algorithm, there is no recurrent method you can use to get merit from me other that relevant and quality posting, including helping others significantly or making intelligent questions. As human, I am good at detecting patterns.


O_o .. You probably didn't got my point here. There are some undervalued sections like the mining and pools and to get Merit points there is almost impossible.


think it is the best to visit as much sections as possible , meritsources could be everwhere so you need some luck and also good writing skills


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: MeritSourceLife on February 25, 2018, 10:40:40 AM
Just out of curiosity, where do you browse for quality posts, I mean sections, the most?

b) You can possibly fool me but you canīt "hack me". I am not an algorithm, there is no recurrent method you can use to get merit from me other that relevant and quality posting, including helping others significantly or making intelligent questions. As human, I am good at detecting patterns.


O_o .. You probably didn't got my point here. There are some undervalued sections like the mining and pools and to get Merit points there is almost impossible.


Ok, noted.


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: Welsh on February 25, 2018, 11:22:34 AM
O_o .. You probably didn't got my point here. There are some undervalued sections like the mining and pools and to get Merit points there is almost impossible.

theymos is probably trying to find merit sources which frequent all the boards between them, and I would imagine that giving a few months most of the sections will have one or more source looking at that section daily. It might be a problem currently but, once he adds more merit sources that are active in those sections it should be fine.



Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: AdolfinWolf on February 25, 2018, 11:29:59 AM
Just out of curiosity, where do you browse for quality posts, I mean sections, the most?

b) You can possibly fool me but you canīt "hack me". I am not an algorithm, there is no recurrent method you can use to get merit from me other that relevant and quality posting, including helping others significantly or making intelligent questions. As human, I am good at detecting patterns.


O_o .. You probably didn't got my point here. There are some undervalued sections like the mining and pools and to get Merit points there is almost impossible.


Ok, noted.

Why would you make an alt account just to describe your feelings about you being a merit source? I really don't get what you are trying to hide here. Also everything that you wrote down is common sense, nothing about it seems controversial..?

Also, let's take a look at some sentences you wrote down,

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As human
^ (A)

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so not only I donīt want to sell merit nor use merit to my own benefit, I am not free to do so.
???

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What do you think that would happen if I find that you are trading merit with other users in low quality posts...

You're just making me laugh at this point. If you are really a merit source, everyone should be one. your level of english is equivalent to that of a 6th grader. How can you possibly determine if something is a quality post or not when you can't write normal sentences yourself?



Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: Kwame Genius on February 25, 2018, 11:43:44 AM
Thank you sir, we are  all appreciated for that of your subjection. I was looking forward that the forum should do, and truly you are really putting things in place.  This show that you hear from us. Not looking like I'm talking much, I earn hear by saying we are much greatful for what you are doing.  
      YOU DO IT ALL.


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: Jet Cash on February 25, 2018, 12:24:59 PM
Thank you for helping to recover this forum, and bring it back to the great resource it was a few years ago.

I can understand your problems, and your difficulty in finding reasonable posts to reward. I received some sMerit to give away, and I have had a real struggle to find posts that I felt were deserving of merit. As I only had a few sMerits ( around 80 ), I decided that I would not be able to award them to "average" posts. It takes a lot of time wading through all the threads, and semi-literate replies, and stupid great infographics that get quoted several times make things even harder. I've found that it is much easier if I put bad posters ( by my standards ) on ignore. This had made things a lot more manageable, and I have found some interesting threads and posts whilst I am looking through the boards.

I would like to make a plea to posters. Please think of the readers who scan threads quickly, and who don't have the time to wade through great strings of repeated text. There is no need to quote a 5,000 word post, just copy a relevant line and snip the rest. Please don't quote large images, readers are likely to quit the thread rather than scroll through a load of repeated content. Don't post in capitals - it slows down reading quite a lot, and may result in you being put on ignore. Formatting with massive headings and a couple of screens worth of indifferent text is also likely to get you ignored.

Just remember, the guys who are speed reading are likely to be your best customers. :)


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: jointherevolution on February 25, 2018, 01:01:33 PM
On the chance that you really are a merit source, what is the purpose of this post? To let us know about your rules regarding merit giving?


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: alia on February 25, 2018, 01:04:58 PM
Very interesting post. Thanks!

And, come on, you can't say "don't merit me" at the end... that's just too tempting


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: zikabra on February 25, 2018, 01:56:09 PM
I can't tell if this is for real or someone created new account to receive few merits for it. But ok, lets say this is alt account.

How will you determine if merit was traded or post was or wasn't good enough? Maybe it wasn't good for you but it was good for others, different people share different opinions, while you say you will be objective as much as you can, this doesn't sound like you will be objective at all.

How will you determine if post was traded or if merit was sent for low quality post if it has been sent in local board? Do you speak all language or you will just decide not to merit users who are posting here and in local boards just because you can't understand all languages?

What do you mean you don't care if someone has a farm, merit was introduced because of them, why would you reward farming accounts?

Would you put me on your list of users who will not receive merit from you because of this post?


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: izanagi narukami on February 25, 2018, 03:29:10 PM
Why do you publish this ?
You can just go work in the shadow ( give merit for who deserve ) and most people ,  I think already aware on how they able earn merit


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: rasukan on February 25, 2018, 04:27:11 PM
sorry in advance .. what is the purpose of selling this service is you want to sell a merit?


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: coolcoinz on February 25, 2018, 05:11:23 PM
Why do you publish this ?
You can just go work in the shadow ( give merit for who deserve ) and most people ,  I think already aware on how they able earn merit

There were so many questions about how to get merit. Beginners and help is full of people asking how to get it and full of people telling them to start writing valuable posts.
It makes me feel like people are too lazy to look for answers themselves they want everything to be served on a silver platter. That thread by theymos explains everything in detail, but people don't bother to read it, they prefer to make another "how to get merit" thread.
I guess OP has put so many people on his ban lists that he wanted to try another approach. Maybe that 1% of people who feel like trading merit or meriting yourself with alts is the only way will read this and save themselves from having to start from scratch.


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: MeritSourceLife on February 25, 2018, 06:02:10 PM
Just out of curiosity, where do you browse for quality posts, I mean sections, the most?

b) You can possibly fool me but you canīt "hack me". I am not an algorithm, there is no recurrent method you can use to get merit from me other that relevant and quality posting, including helping others significantly or making intelligent questions. As human, I am good at detecting patterns.


O_o .. You probably didn't got my point here. There are some undervalued sections like the mining and pools and to get Merit points there is almost impossible.


Ok, noted.

Why would you make an alt account just to describe your feelings about you being a merit source? I really don't get what you are trying to hide here. Also everything that you wrote down is common sense, nothing about it seems controversial..?

Also, let's take a look at some sentences you wrote down,

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As human
^ (A)

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so not only I donīt want to sell merit nor use merit to my own benefit, I am not free to do so.
???

Quote
What do you think that would happen if I find that you are trading merit with other users in low quality posts...

You're just making me laugh at this point. If you are really a merit source, everyone should be one. your level of english is equivalent to that of a 6th grader. How can you possibly determine if something is a quality post or not when you can't write normal sentences yourself?



Your intelligence is average, you wisdom non-existent.

You are smart enough to understand that what I say is common sense. That puts you above the many users that are exchanging merit with alts in plain sight.

You donīt understand the point of this post. That puts you below the many other that see it as an advice to the previously mentioned ones.

Please, notice that English in English is written with an starting capital letter. if you are going to criticise my style,  I urge you to improve your writing to avoid looking stupid.




Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: HabBear on February 25, 2018, 06:26:37 PM
Just out of curiosity, where do you browse for quality posts, I mean sections, the most?
...
O_o .. You probably didn't got my point here. There are some undervalued sections like the mining and pools and to get Merit points there is almost impossible.

iasenko makes an excellent point, but you shouldn't expect MeritSourceLife to tell you anything about their activity! Shame on you for asking!



MeritSourceLife,

If you have the opportunity to offer feedback/suggestions to Theymos and crew, would you consider recommending that a Merit Source be assigned to the major boards or sub-boards of the Forum?

Doing so will ensure that there can be at least an equal opportunity for posts to be seen by merit sources, regardless of where one posts.

To not do so will birth a new kind of spam as it continues to make Meta and a very few other boards on this forum the hub for posting activity as people believe that's where they need to be to get merit.

Thank you! HabbyB


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on February 25, 2018, 09:55:07 PM
Just out of curiosity, where do you browse for quality posts, I mean sections, the most?
Reading this now,it really deserves the answer I got. I had a different thing in mind when I wrote it but I admit that it sounds silly.

iasenko makes an excellent point, but you shouldn't expect MeritSourceLife to tell you anything about their activity! Shame on you for asking!

I thought that the Sources are covering specific sections besides the Local. Now I can see that my question can be interpret as attempt to trick the system by posting in eventually mentions sections for higher chance to get merit.
This was not my intention. Just have seen a good posts in some sub-forums that are not so popular.
 
Ok, noted.

Thanks for that.


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: digaran on February 26, 2018, 04:15:21 AM
Not posting with your main account means you have something to hide, come out like I did, I have changed my strategy for giving away merits as a source several times, I have found the best solution, provide step by step guide for everything I would ask and receive merits. from now on, you will never get any merit from me for random posts on random boards. I will focus on members one by one, complete a task to receive 4 merits instantly and have me reading your posts to merit the worthy ones.

Thanks before.
Before what? before receiving merit from me, you should thank me with at least $20 tip, a man has got to eat right? also if you buy my one and only domain name for $30, you would have earned my attention as the most reputable source.



If you really want to know why theymos made me a source? because banning me couldn't have hurt me like making me a source with 5 sMerits. giving 5 sMerits out of almost 12,000 is like taking a drop of blood from somebody who is willing to donate a bucket of his blood.


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: AdolfinWolf on February 26, 2018, 11:58:52 AM

Your intelligence is average, you wisdom non-existent.

You are smart enough to understand that what I say is common sense. That puts you above the many users that are exchanging merit with alts in plain sight.

You donīt understand the point of this post. That puts you below the many other that see it as an advice to the previously mentioned ones.

Please, notice that English in English is written with an starting capital letter. if you are going to criticise my style,  I urge you to improve your writing to avoid looking stupid.



Thanks for the correction, although you don't really seem to grasp what i was actually saying. I obilized your position of being a merit source, due to your level of english.

You can, *ofcourse*, question my level of English, but i am not here claiming to be a merit source. That's you.

The forum ( or administrators of the forum) take weeks to make someone like LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2851620.msg29257881#msg29257881) a source ( although i'm still not sure if he is one), but they just accepted you out of the blue? Sorry, but your story doesn't add up.

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you wisdom non-existent.

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with an starting capital letter

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if you are going to criticise my style,

 ::) Again, how can you ever distinguish a constructive post when you don't know the difference between A and AN?

(And before you tell me that you've been appointed to be a merit source for local boards, i'd remind you to take a closer look at the first replies you did in this topic. Surely you would've told us?)

 


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: Jet Cash on February 26, 2018, 03:19:49 PM
if you buy my one and only domain name for $30, you would have earned my attention as the most reputable source.


What is the domain name? I only buy .coms at the moment.


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: maeusi on February 26, 2018, 05:48:43 PM
The reason of posting this thread as alt for privacy is clear and logical. Also the reason of this thread is clear. It is an info and try to reduce Merit threads. But it will not help. Better would be an own section for Merit stuff, so that important infos and questions on Meta will get again more attention.


Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: cabalism13 on February 26, 2018, 11:39:54 PM
Thank you for helping to recover this forum, and bring it back to the great resource it was a few years ago.

I can understand your problems, and your difficulty in finding reasonable posts to reward. I received some sMerit to give away, and I have had a real struggle to find posts that I felt were deserving of merit. As I only had a few sMerits ( around 80 ), I decided that I would not be able to award them to "average" posts. It takes a lot of time wading through all the threads, and semi-literate replies, and stupid great infographics that get quoted several times make things even harder. I've found that it is much easier if I put bad posters ( by my standards ) on ignore. This had made things a lot more manageable, and I have found some interesting threads and posts whilst I am looking through the boards.

I would like to make a plea to posters. Please think of the readers who scan threads quickly, and who don't have the time to wade through great strings of repeated text. There is no need to quote a 5,000 word post, just copy a relevant line and snip the rest. Please don't quote large images, readers are likely to quit the thread rather than scroll through a load of repeated content. Don't post in capitals - it slows down reading quite a lot, and may result in you being put on ignore. Formatting with massive headings and a couple of screens worth of indifferent text is also likely to get you ignored.

Just remember, the guys who are speed reading are likely to be your best customers. :)

Your post is very much appreciated but how to join on your list? Im a newbie here

Maybe this will help you guys if you're having trouble finding threads that newbies are participating. And give them some of your sMerits Thanks!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3021637.0



Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: MeritSourceLife on February 27, 2018, 10:55:27 AM
@alia & @pixie85 - Thanks for the merit... now I have to look for another good post this month to give it away   ::)

@tirio - I did not intended this post to be funny, but... well, I am glad to be making the world a funnier place. Believe it or not, there are many people trying to find the "automatic and repeatable way" of getting merit.

@Welsh - I hope so. There are good posts everywhere and this is just starting.

@Kwame Genius, @Jet Cash 

@jointherevolution
@izanagi narukami
- The purpose of this post is to discourage merit trading and farming. Some people don't understand the system as well as you.

@zikabra - I clearly state that I don't want merit on this account. I have tons of smerit... really please, no more!!
                 I can only merit people on the languages I understand, but Theymos is particularly keen on looking for sources  or local boards (see his thread about merit). Eventually, it may be even easier to get merit locally. No one will ever be excluded for disagreeing with me, or even for personal attacks (within reason).

@AdolfinWolf - You are not excluded from merit from me. I hope my English is good enough to understand your awful writing overcome your lack of wisdom.

@jerick06 - There is no list nor anything to sale. You may want to take a look at the meta post about merit.

@coolcoinz - You are right, I am sad that so many people make themselves "un-meritable" for a long time, because they do make good posts sometimes.

@HabBear - Thanks for the support. Theymos has no better reason to listen to me than to anyone else, but what you say makes sense.

@digaran - Love you way of thinking. Yes, I have something to hide. I want to hide my user for getting personal messages or being involved in anything that could make me less objective. I want to hide from heavy scrutiny, because I am human (did I already mention that?) and I make mistakes. But you are free to believe that I am just dishonest if that's your wish.

@maeusi - Thanks, someone out there understands me.

@cabalism13 - Oh... should I read that thread then  :P

I won't keep writing on this thread. I really have a life and lots of posts to read, believe it or not.






















Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: veleten on February 27, 2018, 01:19:51 PM
what I found interesting:

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- I have lots of merit to give away. I mean that I have to spend quite a bit of time looking for good posts just to make sure I distribute my monthly quota correctly. I rarely merit more than 3 points.

1.merit sources do not have an unlimited pool of merits to give away
2.the quota is refreshed every month
3.if the points are not distributed they are wasted,i.e. not added up every month to the old ones? (not sure,could be not true)

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- I check the users. Before meriting you I take a look at your merit profile. What do you think that would happen if I find that you are trading merit with other users in low quality posts...

4.merit sources,at least this particular one,not only merit good posts,but can be your demise if you are found guilty of abuse
5.probably belongs to D2 or even D1 trust

thank you for the insight,was an interesting read



Title: Re: My life as a merit source
Post by: livingancient on February 27, 2018, 03:17:06 PM
Your post is very much appreciated but how to join on your list? Im a newbie here
We only have one chance, and that is making have some fun for making quality post as much as we can, other than this our future will surely at the shit point outside this forum..