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So yeah, this is your typical traditional asset manager fear mongering, but I found this article most interesting because it includes a side by side comparison chart of volitility for BTC, ETH, Ripple and tradition assets, stocks and gold.  We already know how volatile it is, but had never seen a side by side comparison like that.

Remember, though, the word volitity has a connotation when talking about investments, but it goes both ways.  Highly volition assets can “explode to the upside”, too. 

At least this BlackRock asset manager does appear to acknowledge that Cryptos may eventually become mainstream. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/26/worlds-largest-asset-manager-says-get-ready-to-stomach-complete-losses-in-cryptocurrencies.html

Yes, while no one can tell exactly how the process of developing the Crypto currency will end. I admit that bitcoin may fall for some, even a long time, but I believe in the necessity of the existence of altcoyins, which became very necessary for us with you, as they really improve our life and make it more convenient and safe.

Regardless of who's saying it, when you're invested in something which is as volatile as crypto you should without a doubt be prepared to lose anything at any moment. This is why when people get invested into Crypto they say that you should already think of that money as lost and you should ensure that you can live without it, so once your in MAKE SURE YOU CAN LIVE WITHOUT THE CASH -- dont buy on margin, dont buy on ur credit card, etc.

I'm prepared to lose it all, are you?

But if you are a trader, volatility is good whichever side of the trade. Long or short, if you know what you're doing you always make money. As opposed to something that is flat in the market. How do you make some money with that?


You can make profit on the "downside" too by shorting as I said above.


That means they do not know what to think of cryptocurrencies. They say "prepare to lose", then they say "it's the future". How can you lose if Bitcoin and some altcoins are the future of money?

If we can see it well, it is a possibility that it could happen, but someone a lot of people are now adapting it so maybe it will go up sometimes.

i am sorry but that side by side comparison is bullshit because it is comparing apples and oranges.
first comparing bitcoin with traditional old assets such as gold and stocks is silly. if you want to compare then you at least have to compare today's bitcoin with 50-100 years ago gold, for example during the gold rush or something like that. but not with today's gold which is an ancient, established and HUGE market. bitcoin is a 9 year old infant which is being compared with a 1000 year old ancient!

second, comparing bitcoin with other altcoins such as ETH and XRP is wrong. both of these coins and other altcoins are 100 times more susceptible to manipulations and pump and dumps. plus prices of most of them like ETH are mostly controlled by their centralized investors such as big banks in the background. and the pump and dumps happening there increases the volatility that much

Cryptos are in their formative season. The processes or very abstract,  hence the apprehension. All these forecast of volatility are just the expression of doubt and adventure mixed together.

So many have come to accept bitcoin because its usefulness is more clearer now. This is what all cryptos will be soon.

This can ben seen like an advice, so I don't see as wrong. We can lose all our investment in cryptocurrencies, and it doesn't require to see a bitcoin reaching 0 for that  :P

Investing in cryptos is a risky game that some people sometimes forget. Everyone must consider investing only what they can afford to lose, this is said everywhere on this forum but it's still the best advice, because yes, you can invest in something which will worth near 0 later.

About the graph showing price volatibility in the news, well, this is not surprising to see cryptocurrencies with an higher rate, haha. What do they expect ? Thet compare gold and cryptocurrencies, but this is not comparable. More the market cap is high, the less volatility will be, because with an higher market cap, you'll need much more money to shake the market. But this doesn't protect you against crashes.

What a sarcasm! The same guy Goldman Sachs who said the bitcoin and other crypto currencies will go down to zero now has bought the Poloniex Exchanger one day ago under the agreement of Circle Corporation which is backed by him.

The same guy according to your news on 7th Feb speaks about the crypto currencies and its fall in the near future. So why would he do that? To create the panic chain reaction so that people will sell the coins and his newly bought exchanger will get huge profit form the fees? Sound like that is the plan?

Oh come on, never trust these big guys they always sucker punch themselves.

And please stop increasing the impressions of CNBC as well. Lolz.

I do not think that this is going to happen anytime soon. I agree that prices are volatile but if you are investing for at least 6 months, you will not see any loss for sure.

the article sounds more like an FUD than an honest investment advice.
an honest advice says you can lose everything in cryptos but doesn't pretend other assets are safe. and doesn't even include the comparison between the two markets in it.

Maybe they do that for a simple reason and that is they want many people get panic so they sell their coin without knowing what is really the truth, that is one of the mistake of other people, they easily believe in fake news.

Reading the article, I can say the guy is a confused fellow and everything the article is all about are not new to someone who has stayed long enough in the crypto world. At this trying time of crypto currency, we don't need people who are conservative about it. If you want to say something on the positive say it and if you are against it, make your position known rather than sitting on the fence trying to protect yourself in case the situation goes side ways.

This is not fear mongering. This is the maxim in crypto investing. Even long time holders know at the back of their mind, that there is a possibility that Bitcoin may become worthless. Although it is more probable that Bitcoin will become successful and appreciate in value.
This is also the advice I give to people who are looking to invest in crypto. Treat it like a small lottery and be prepared to lose everything.

In account ledger there is usually a provision for profit and loss so anyone who invest in CryptoFortune should expect that a time of loss will come and that mindset helps to prepare ahead and to avoid unnecessary panic. With the advancement of altcoins coming up daily i don't it crashing soon.

every time there is a drop, everyone on the internet becomes an expert and start giving financial advice. and it is always 90% crap, specially right now that price drop is over and it is mostly in consolidation phase, and I would even say this may be a very big accumulation while whales buy more and more bitcoin in this range be fore a shoot up starts.

Its just normal reason, economist started to fear crypto because of the volatility movement of it because in investment there is no "one night billionaire investing", all of the investment and portfolio are made of steady gain and relying not on momentum alone, the more volatile the movement of an investing instrument the more danger it possess. But the more risk an investment made, there also the more gain and profit opportunity it has. But because people can't predict the future, the unknown about when the price will burst from a bubble made economist more likely to avoid bitcoin investment.  ;D

This. In general, you should only invest money you can afford to lose. That’s with any kind of investment, and the more volatile the investment, the riskier it is. But high risk comes with high rewards if the investment turns out well. This of all those who bought bitcoin at $1,000 or at 100, it was very risky back then as well.

That's true. We have lots of them in the forum too, with yours truly also guilty of doing it. Hahaha.

But as person who has some "skin in the game", I plead for my right to express my views in a public forum whether they are right or wrong. ;)

Although you are also welcome to express your own and disagree. That is where the learning comes in.

I don't see anything wrong with what he is saying here.

Especially if you are margin trading, or just flat out speculating on bitcoin, you should only invest what you can afford to lose. And that's excellent advice for any newbie to bitcoin, don't look at it as something of a short term investment that will flip your money. Instead, you should at least get a basic understanding of why bitcoin is important to the health of our economy and why it's so revolutionary and be prepared to hold your BTC for the long term.

He actually said this as well:


What he really means is probably that BTC, if you are just using it as an investment, should only be added to a diverse portfolio, which you can afford to invest in. The quote by CNBC is out of proportion and makes it seem like he's a bitcoin hater.

Well, anything that we can say now is bound by speculation especially taking into account the risks involved in dealing with cryptocurrency. You should always take into consideration that you have a safety net with your investment and that it would not jeopardize your financial sustainability. By doing so, you can minimize the risks involved and just consider this as a sideline from your current income generating job.

The price of the cryptocurrency has been soaring in last two months, now head up again. Increase value of bitcoin can only be temporary. It is volatile, due this may result for the new attendees and the people investing with borrowing might loose their investment. Because they will not able to wait.

The media sometimes like to overly sensationalize something because they think that would make the readers or the viewers more interested on them. However, I still do think that this are based on facts despite what the headline would say and I think that thy have a point in regards to how the Cryptocurrency market is currently on its state now where people who are already inside the bitcoin community are in fear for their investment because of how colatile this cryptocurrencies can be

Economist already feared about btc from the moment it has given a value. So, as the years gone by crypto is keep evolving which is also creating a more fear for the economist. We can  accept the fact that not all people believe in crypto so we can expect a lot of issues especially about spreading fud. Well, its almost 10 years since crypto has been created and I don't think it will be eliminated. Crypto has now being able to stand with stronger foundation which is supported by big investors.

I agree, as an asset manager he understands that investing in crypto currency market is riskier than investing in a traditional market like stocks. He just want people to know that in a high volatility market like crypto that losing everything can always happen.

Bitcoin does not need to go to zero for you to lose everything if you are emotional and you have weak hands most likely you will sell on price drop and buy on price rise which is the fastest way to lose all your money.

I would like to react on this, as it is not like this exactly, because people on this platform are from different parts of the world with different educations and understanding about the crypto currencies, they just want to analyse the situations according to their knowledge and understanding and it doesn’t mean that they are enforcing their views on other. Bitcoin price fell in recent past and that was also predicted on this platform earlier and now if there are any other potential threats then they all will be discussed. Yes you are right that most of those potential threats do not harm the bitcoin, but that doesn’t mean that we turn our eyes close towards that part.

With any investment, not just in crypto, you have to be prepared to lose it. Investments will always be risky, all the more with the volatility of bitcoin. If its money you can't afford to lose then don't put it in. There's never a guarantee of profit in bitcoins.

Wow, thanks for giving an effort in sharing this man. I must say, this truly is very horrific. Damn, Imagine losing all your investments and profits you have heavily worked hard for. But man, I really don't care anymore, I am surely gonna go all or nothing on cryptos, this is a better gamble than being on casinos. Been through hard drops, pretty sure I can take some losses knowing I have enjoyed being in the crypto world for quite some time.

i think only need: we beleive crypto market it will no dead,have many people like and don't like btc and crypto,but crypto will futrue of world

Every investment is a possible bubble at a certain point. This guy just provided a more decent documentation that wanted to cause a FUD towards bitcoin. Even I acknowledge that bitcoin might fail someday, this would not be happening anytime soon. Please try to see the market cap of bitcoin and see how much money is invested into it. He is also pointing out that not to put all your eggs under one basket when it comes into investing into crypto. 

I find the statement interesting. For most of the people will just invest and thinking that their money will profit anytime soon and not acknowledging the possibilities to loss their money. Doing this for me is like a gambling. I put my money and I'm ready if I don't get it back.

Just think about this "the higher risk the higher the return" But "don't put all your eggs in one basket"

Newspaper: Where can you push up or down !!!
Why do I say that? You can see when many articles push a celebrity up, say good things about them, promote them, praise them, and a few days later swear them, say they are bad people, push them down ?????
So where is the truth !!! Not only in normal life, but in the crypto currency market too, why are the newspapers saying Bitcoin dead ????
Not too hard for the $ 1,000 you already have a newspaper to write your name on the front page, and the rich Bitcoin leverage newspapers to squeeze the price to buy more bitcoin at a cheap price?
All is just the run of the tycoon!

Cryptocurrencies may be affected by the environment and the price will drop, but I believe they will be back in 2018 and will be the blockchain and cryptocurrency year.

If crypto will be ending, its all of them include altcoin will die.
Cryptocurrency is never safe because its high risk behind the huge prifit so i dont agree that cryptocurrency is safe.

Cnbc told their viewers to buy ripple 2months into its run up and the next day it crashes. What can we take from this? Don't listen to cnbc