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Title: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2011, 11:54:38 PM
It seems the community would prefer I resigned from the r/Bitcoin reddit and transfered it to somebody who is more community-oriented. Whom better than Theymos?

Enjoy.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: julz on July 20, 2011, 12:07:49 AM
It seems the community would prefer I resigned from the r/Bitcoin reddit and transfered it to somebody who is more community-oriented. Whom better than Theymos?

Enjoy.


Well.. there must be many better choices than Theymos.
I don't have anything against Theymos - but just from the point of view of distribution of power, it would surely be preferable that it's not someone who is an admin or mod on another bitcoin forum.

I think if someone else reasonable puts their hand up for it, that'd be better... but who decides reasonable is up to the particular forum I guess.



Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: bitplane on July 20, 2011, 12:15:05 AM
I think if someone else reasonable puts their hand up for it, that'd be better... but who decides reasonable is up to the particular forum I guess.
In communities such as Reddit I'd say that a meritocracy is the best way to run things. If you do the most for the community and are respected by the community then you should have the most power, but only so that the community benefits.

I don't visit r/bitcoin enough to be involved in any of the politics though, so couldn't recommend anyone else.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: kiba on July 20, 2011, 12:18:17 AM
Never ever choose me as mod! Don't care about the work or the power.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: turvarya on August 16, 2015, 10:04:03 PM
It seems like, we should have kept Atlas as the moderator of the subreddit ;)


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: itsamemario on August 17, 2015, 02:24:23 AM
Hmm, seems this whole thing could have been avoided if everyone decided to quit being drama queens at let the upvote and downvote system do its thing.

right?  What ever happened to the votes.... They seem as though nobody cares they exist anymore.

If there is one thing that can change, is someone can work on a smart platform that self moderates, requires basis or adds substance to up and down votes by requiring a comment, or something. Today i realized a HUGE issue.  As long as the main communication platforms are running under the guise of 1 individual there will continue to be  a bias, and conversation will be filtered. That is in complete contrast with concencus and how Bitcoin will function, soooo not sure what to do here. not a programmer, or anything, but Bitcoin needs new discussion platform


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: RGBKey on August 17, 2015, 02:36:10 AM
I also think that theymos should not be the mod, not because he might not be fit, I don't care to discuss opinions on that, but just because he already controls this website.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: itsamemario on August 17, 2015, 02:41:31 AM
I also think that theymos should not be the mod, not because he might not be fit, I don't care to discuss opinions on that, but just because he already controls this website.

Theymos controls Bitcoin discussion.  People are scared about mining, developer centralization?  What about the community discussion? The place we come to the conclusions that effect everything.  Realize in a consensus based economy, communication is #1.... So centralization of ANY other aspect of Bitcoin stems directly down from the places people are using to build opinions and voice concerns.  Communication is everything, and if it's going to be filtered, future consensus is already fucked.

Truly a shame at best what is happening here as we speak.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: knight22 on August 17, 2015, 02:51:57 AM
I also think that theymos should not be the mod, not because he might not be fit, I don't care to discuss opinions on that, but just because he already controls this website.

Theymos controls Bitcoin discussion.  People are scared about mining, developer centralization?  What about the community discussion? The place we come to the conclusions that effect everything.  Realize in a consensus based economy, communication is #1.... So centralization of ANY other aspect of Bitcoin stems directly down from the places people are using to build opinions and voice concerns.  Communication is everything, and if it's going to be filtered, future consensus is already fucked.

Truly a shame at best what is happening here as we speak.

Exactly. I just hope people will migrate to other platforms so it will decentralize discussions once and for all.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: RGBKey on August 17, 2015, 02:53:42 AM
I also think that theymos should not be the mod, not because he might not be fit, I don't care to discuss opinions on that, but just because he already controls this website.

Theymos controls Bitcoin discussion.  People are scared about mining, developer centralization?  What about the community discussion? The place we come to the conclusions that effect everything.  Realize in a consensus based economy, communication is #1.... So centralization of ANY other aspect of Bitcoin stems directly down from the places people are using to build opinions and voice concerns.  Communication is everything, and if it's going to be filtered, future consensus is already fucked.

Truly a shame at best what is happening here as we speak.

Exactly. I just hope people will migrate to other platforms so it will decentralize discussions once and for all.
The scary part is that I highly doubt that's going to happen. This place has been THE place for all discussion, *maybe* the subreddit.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: knight22 on August 17, 2015, 02:56:51 AM
I also think that theymos should not be the mod, not because he might not be fit, I don't care to discuss opinions on that, but just because he already controls this website.

Theymos controls Bitcoin discussion.  People are scared about mining, developer centralization?  What about the community discussion? The place we come to the conclusions that effect everything.  Realize in a consensus based economy, communication is #1.... So centralization of ANY other aspect of Bitcoin stems directly down from the places people are using to build opinions and voice concerns.  Communication is everything, and if it's going to be filtered, future consensus is already fucked.

Truly a shame at best what is happening here as we speak.

Exactly. I just hope people will migrate to other platforms so it will decentralize discussions once and for all.
The scary part is that I highly doubt that's going to happen. This place has been THE place for all discussion, *maybe* the subreddit.

Well, people are unsubscribing in mass right now. It never happened before.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: gentlemand on August 17, 2015, 02:57:20 AM

Theymos controls Bitcoin discussion.  People are scared about mining, developer centralization?  What about the community discussion? The place we come to the conclusions that effect everything.  Realize in a consensus based economy, communication is #1.... So centralization of ANY other aspect of Bitcoin stems directly down from the places people are using to build opinions and voice concerns.  Communication is everything, and if it's going to be filtered, future consensus is already fucked.


If the will of the majority is flagrantly labelled irrelevant then that can only be held back for so long.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: RGBKey on August 17, 2015, 02:57:42 AM
True, but just because they're unsubscribing doesn't mean that they don't look at it still, or that they won't go back later.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: coinableS on August 17, 2015, 02:58:17 AM
Distribution of power is needed. It is needed in bitcoin's development and it is needed in it's communities. We can't have 3 people (Gavin, Hern & Theymos) running everything. This is why I am more towards core (more developers), and I do support a blocksize increase but not the way Gavin and Hearn are trying to do it. Theymos should hand off r/bitcoin to someone else for the good of bitcoin. He'll still have bitcointalk, which is way cooler than reddit anyways  8)


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: RGBKey on August 17, 2015, 02:59:44 AM
Distribution of power is needed. It is needed in bitcoin's development and it is needed in it's communities. We can't have 3 people (Gavin, Hern & Theymos) running everything. This is why I am more towards core (more developers), and I do support a blocksize increase but not the way Gavin and Hearn are trying to do it. Theymos should hand off r/bitcoin to someone else for the good of bitcoin. He'll still have bitcointalk, which is way cooler than reddit anyways  8)
That's the way I think most of this site thinks, we need a blocksize increase, but XT is awful and we CANNOT adopt it.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: itsamemario on August 17, 2015, 03:01:39 AM
I also think that theymos should not be the mod, not because he might not be fit, I don't care to discuss opinions on that, but just because he already controls this website.

Theymos controls Bitcoin discussion.  People are scared about mining, developer centralization?  What about the community discussion? The place we come to the conclusions that effect everything.  Realize in a consensus based economy, communication is #1.... So centralization of ANY other aspect of Bitcoin stems directly down from the places people are using to build opinions and voice concerns.  Communication is everything, and if it's going to be filtered, future consensus is already fucked.

Truly a shame at best what is happening here as we speak.

Exactly. I just hope people will migrate to other platforms so it will decentralize discussions once and for all.
The scary part is that I highly doubt that's going to happen. This place has been THE place for all discussion, *maybe* the subreddit.

Well, people are unsubscribing in mass right now. It never happened before.


Almost down 100 in the hour.  But I agree, we need people to start posting elsewhere as opposed to just unsubbing.  Times like these I wish I could code.  Bitcoin discussion needs a new platform with a more versatile voting system that can self regulate somehow.  Votes need to have substance behind them, ie. downvote upvote requires reasoning.


Title: Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit.
Post by: itsamemario on August 17, 2015, 03:03:44 AM
Distribution of power is needed. It is needed in bitcoin's development and it is needed in it's communities. We can't have 3 people (Gavin, Hern & Theymos) running everything. This is why I am more towards core (more developers), and I do support a blocksize increase but not the way Gavin and Hearn are trying to do it. Theymos should hand off r/bitcoin to someone else for the good of bitcoin. He'll still have bitcointalk, which is way cooler than reddit anyways  8)
That's the way I think most of this site thinks, we need a blocksize increase, but XT is awful and we CANNOT adopt it.


But how can we even move forward with the block size now that we can be sure that the discussion was clearly bias.  I mean, perhaps not to one side or the other, but when there is a filter on all the content, you can be sure that some sides of the debate have the short end of the stick.  all consensus is based of discussion and debate,a nd without a platform to be sure that everyone is heard, it's tough to make a judgement call on a debate.  Communication is #1 for progression in Bitcoin, and there is clearly a central flaw in the current mediums for it.