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Title: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: temorkebun on February 27, 2018, 02:25:17 PM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Foxpup on February 27, 2018, 02:58:02 PM
The post you linked to is the origin of the HODL meme, and therefore of great cultural and historical significance. If you were active at all in the Bitcoin community, you would understand why. But instead of being part of the community, you're just spamming the forum, no doubt in a futile attempt to increase your rank to make money from signature campaigns later. Your posts are all garbage without exception, and really you ought to be banned for it. Certainly you shouldn't expect to receive merit for the garbage you're posting.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: TMAN on February 27, 2018, 03:25:32 PM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047


you are a rubbish poster!


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Kim Ji Won on February 27, 2018, 03:35:28 PM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047

Would you rather have your posts merited than the one you linked up to? Base on your post history, yours is what we call garbage posts. You mainly posts on the Off-Topic board which has really no relevance to Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies and it just shows how clueless you are about how this forum works.
Better start staying on threads that really matter so that you will realize why such comments even get merited.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: covfefe_ on February 27, 2018, 03:53:15 PM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047


You are witnessing the first use of one of the most popular word of 21st century.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: ilcapitano on February 27, 2018, 04:02:54 PM
Please stop spamming meta board with un-necessary topic. I found two interesting things after reading your OP and spend a couple of minutes to check some more.
1. Your post history shows that most of your threads are shitty posts.
2. Your discovery is interesting. In the linked threads, there are several Legendary members who abused merit system. I don't know why because Legendary actually don't need merit. I guess they are simply trolling.

My recommendation for you is you should publish your discovery there:
Users that are abusing merit system. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.0)


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Jet Cash on February 27, 2018, 04:28:51 PM
I got caught out by commenting on those merits. My point was that it was a necro award though, and I think that merits should be awarded to new, or at least fairly recent posts or threads.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: r1s2g3 on February 27, 2018, 04:49:28 PM
I got caught out by commenting on those merits. My point was that it was a necro award though, and I think that merits should be awarded to new, or at least fairly recent posts or threads.

That should be decided on community members only.
But I think when every nation preserves its  heritage, then it is ok here also.
If article is old it does not mean it is not worthy and merits system is for awarding worthy post.



Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Siryosow on February 27, 2018, 04:55:51 PM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047

Merit is not a garbage but maybe the shitposters. Buddy you should not judge the good system just because someone is abusing it. If you are acting like that, you too becomes a  garbage by being ignorant of handling the truth you discovered from the abusers.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Vod on February 27, 2018, 04:56:10 PM
My point was that it was a necro award though, and I think that merits should be awarded to new, or at least fairly recent posts or threads.

I disagree.  Old posts can be just as valuable as new ones.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Alevira_mox on February 27, 2018, 05:04:36 PM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047

Merit is not a garbage but maybe the shitposters. Buddy you should not judge the good system just because someone is abusing it. If you are acting like that, you too becomes a  garbage by being ignorant of handling the truth you discovered from the abusers.

I can barely understand your English.

Also, 'all hail the good system for it shows us the truth!' - spoken like a true cult leader.

Here's a little advice, don't add informal words like 'buddy' when talking from an authoritarian stance. It just sounds funny  ;D


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Lauda on February 27, 2018, 05:06:50 PM
You are garbage. /thread

My point was that it was a necro award though, and I think that merits should be awarded to new, or at least fairly recent posts or threads.
I disagree.  Old posts can be just as valuable as new ones.
This.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Jet Cash on February 27, 2018, 05:12:33 PM
My point was that it was a necro award though, and I think that merits should be awarded to new, or at least fairly recent posts or threads.

I disagree.  Old posts can be just as valuable as new ones.

I don't dispute that, and there are some threads that every person with an interest in Bitcoin should read, even if they are a few years old.

I think it comes down to a personal view of the purpose of the merit system. My view is that it was introduced to encourage members to make valuable and useful posts. If this is the case, then awarding merit to members like Satoshi is really just a waste of merit. Also, it is obviously discouraging for some members to see these necro-awards when they aren't getting any awards for their posts.

I don't think that necro-awards are the biggest problem though. Awards given to semi-literate posters for garbled messages just so that they can rank up, and then post more to promote some indifferent sig campaign, are far more of a problem in my opinion.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: TMAN on February 27, 2018, 06:12:54 PM
My point was that it was a necro award though, and I think that merits should be awarded to new, or at least fairly recent posts or threads.

I disagree.  Old posts can be just as valuable as new ones.

In most cases old posts are more valuable than current ones. old scams like piraet, asicminer and labcoin. Posts about the 2011 price rise to 30. Lazlo and the worlds most expensive pizza, mike and the cas coins, max and his first kialara, HODL.. there are many more, but without those posts where would we be today?


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: btc-facebook on February 27, 2018, 06:15:37 PM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047


Things has change and we must adapt even for worst /unfair case as long as most people have no problem with merit system, the system will keep go on or even advance in order to combat spammer for better quality of post.

When I saw old Legendary member got merit, they deserve it !


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Pancheng on February 27, 2018, 06:26:31 PM
You have my vote!!!! I wish I could give you merit for this one but I don't have enough quantity. Well giving merit is also based on what the readers feel, sometimes they find it amusing when there is no wrong giving one to the joker isn't it? Some post doesn't have enough quality but they have their own charisma to attract readers to give merit to them.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: galkina on February 27, 2018, 07:14:11 PM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047


Just giving one example which might be an exception. Did you forgot about hundreds of helpful posts being made by members here after the new merit system. Also, there is no point in criticizing the new system as all members have already accepted it and moved on. For instance, it is being used a selection criteria in all the new signature campaigns. However, if you some suggestion to improve this, you are more than welcome.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Jet Cash on February 27, 2018, 07:16:12 PM

In most cases old posts are more valuable than current ones. old scams like piraet, asicminer and labcoin. Posts about the 2011 price rise to 30. Lazlo and the worlds most expensive pizza, mike and the cas coins, max and his first kialara, HODL.. there are many more, but without those posts where would we be today?

Of course that is true, and part of the reason it is true is that some of those members have left the forum, or only post infrequently.

My point is that merit is for the future, and not for the past, but of course that is just a personal ( and apparently unpopular ) opinion. :)


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Hannahanto on February 27, 2018, 07:39:32 PM
The true meaning to merit comes when you truly obey contributing quality posts. The merit should be done when the post is really worth giving merit. I do accept that every post we make is worth meriting. But its appreciated and more welcomed when one in 3 posts are really a quality one and the rest is not really spaming ones. Its really possible to make when one really takes time analysing and collecting data needed for the concern post. We can do it guys. Lets support.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: guschin on February 27, 2018, 08:09:23 PM
The true meaning to merit comes when you truly obey contributing quality posts. The merit should be done when the post is really worth giving merit. I do accept that every post we make is worth meriting. But its appreciated and more welcomed when one in 3 posts are really a quality one and the rest is not really spaming ones. Its really possible to make when one really takes time analysing and collecting data needed for the concern post. We can do it guys. Lets support.

You are very much right about this especially in case of new members. Newbies just need 10 merit points and they have got 60 posts for this. This means that if they post just one constructive post for every 6 posts, they will make it to next level. In fact, I have seen members getting all 10 merit points for just a single thread/response. This is not that hard to achieve, one just needs to carefully observe the sections and posts getting merits and then replicate the same.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: zeref dragneel on March 02, 2018, 11:55:46 AM
mate...what the hell wrong with you?
you dont know about it .ok fine....doesnt mean its garbage.
booooooo on your post


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: navillera011486 on March 02, 2018, 03:08:53 PM
Topic's creator is shitty-poster, scammers, merit hunters/ beggars. Due to all those things, he/she didn't deserve to get any merit point regardless this guy change attitude and start contributing to the forum with relevant topics and constructive, high quality threads. Over time, if this guy continuously doing those great things (of course, take time, energy, and efforts for learning more, brainstorming before writing), merit points will sometime come to the account as rewards for deserved topics/ threads.

If he keep doing current things (moaning, crying, complaining about drawbacks of merit system), he won't get any merit, won't get forever.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: markdario112616 on March 02, 2018, 03:33:59 PM
Haha, This one is probably an alt of a bitter poster that can't rank up due to this new system or whatsoever. Well, Definitely this user is a close-minded person. That He/she can't see through the good benefit that the new system can bring to the whole community.

A lot of users here can't appreciate the beauty of this merit system. Yes, It's hard to rank up, and not all people will truly appreciate your posts but the thing is some make this system as a burden for them which relatively wrong. Why not make this system as a challenge, to improve your skills and knowledge.



Before saying "merit is a Garbage" try to look at yourself first. If you can't fit with the new system then, who's the garbage now?


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Janation on March 02, 2018, 03:40:14 PM
Haha, This one is probably an alt of a bitter poster that can't rank up due to this new system or whatsoever. Well, Definitely this user is a close-minded person. That He/she can't see through the good benefit that the new system can bring to the whole community.

A lot of users here can't appreciate the beauty of this merit system. Yes, It's hard to rank up, and not all people will truly appreciate your posts but the thing is some make this system as a burden for them which relatively wrong. Why not make this system as a challenge, to improve your skills and knowledge.



Before saying "merit is a Garbage" try to look at yourself first. If you can't fit with the new system then, who's the garbage now?

The OP is not pointing out that Merit is garbage because the OP is not getting any, the complain is about a 4 letter post that is getting merit even if it is an old post. What the OP do not know is that that post is the start of the meme that is now popular to crypto currency users which is the term HODL. I think the OP understands it now with a lot of people explaining it.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: CONOFLEX on March 02, 2018, 03:42:25 PM
I知 also a newbie and got no merit activity is 28 and 64 posts, I知 newbie here and I also try my best but because I newbie I知 still learning, we must accept the rules of this forum, I will not give up but I知 Willing to learn from the best.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: malikusama on March 02, 2018, 06:13:11 PM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047

This garbage comment (according to you) is the origin of the famous slang which has taken the community by storm, and in fact this comment is far better than all your shitty posts.
Each and everyone here knows what HODL is and you think his comment didn't contribute anything?




Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: wierdope on March 03, 2018, 08:59:34 PM
Merits is not a garbage, spammers is. If wasn't the spammers the merits rules will not be implement in the forum. Maybe you are one of those spammers who wants to ruin BT forum. The rules was implemented for the good of this forum. You think they will implement for such a reason, no. So just follow the rules.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: adelaisav on March 03, 2018, 10:08:27 PM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047


stop whining , this wont get you better situation since its already implemented over 1 month ago , you should adapt with these kind of stuff , and be a better poster , lots of newbies out there was trying to work hard to gain merit , and meanwhile you here complaining


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: 30shyn on March 04, 2018, 04:27:08 AM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047


Maybe you are mad because you didn't get any merits. Don't waste your time posting like this. Moderators do their best to make this forum better in the future. If you want merits, instead of posting like this, make a post the can contribute other member of this forum. And I guess I spotted the reason why merit system is being made, because of people like you, impatience.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: alttry2019 on March 04, 2018, 06:02:17 AM
I don't think so. Merit is a good way of forcing people posting high quality posts.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: galkina on March 04, 2018, 06:31:11 AM
Merits is not a garbage, spammers is. If wasn't the spammers the merits rules will not be implement in the forum. Maybe you are one of those spammers who wants to ruin BT forum. The rules was implemented for the good of this forum. You think they will implement for such a reason, no. So just follow the rules.

Very rightly said. Merit was very much needed for the forum and the shit posters have failed to rank up now after the merit system. They have realized that they will never be able to participate in bounties if the merit system is not removed. I guess this is the why they keep using bad names for merit system.

stop whining , this wont get you better situation since its already implemented over 1 month ago , you should adapt with these kind of stuff , and be a better poster , lots of newbies out there was trying to work hard to gain merit , and meanwhile you here complaining

I also do not understand why people keep making these complain threads after a month. Most of the new members have already moved on. Even the signature campaigns have  started asking for merits and are getting enough number of applicants fulfilling the criteria.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Tharel on March 04, 2018, 07:59:30 AM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047


You as a spammer will not ever see the benefit of merit so don't question it. This forum was created to the benefit of everyone, Like all other things, there are changes that happen overtime and one huge change was having a merit system. I certainly support this system. it was implemented as admins are seeing so many shitposters in this forum which is really bothering. This spammers did not only destroy the good reputation of the forum but also spread garbage post everywhere. We are here to learn, to collaborate and exchange valuable insights about crypto and not to criticize the rules and policies. If you cant stand these new rules, the door is always open for you.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 04, 2018, 08:00:23 AM
I知 also a newbie and got no merit activity is 28 and 64 posts, I知 newbie here and I also try my best but because I newbie I知 still learning, we must accept the rules of this forum, I will not give up but I知 Willing to learn from the best.

Complaining that you being a newbie will not help. Obviously its the merit posters whom you are trying to impress or trying to get their attention by this method of pseudo-begging under a "newbie" blanket.

There are so many things people dont like about this forum. Its layout is bad, its software is old and trust system if fucked up and now you people are complaining of the merit system. If you have so many things in the forum which you dont like, then why stay in this forum? Leave this forum. At least a chunk of shitposters would be removed in this manner if they follow my advice.

I know you guys will never leave this forum because its favorite haunt of the jobless begging pajeets.

I don't think so. Merit is a good way of forcing people posting high quality posts.

If you feel you are being "forced" to make quality posts then you really need to think what you writing about. Probably your wisdom is not enough to comment on those stuff.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: tbct_mt2 on March 04, 2018, 08:51:18 AM
Agree! There are different ranks of users complaining about merit system. They complained, moaned, cried mainly because they can not compose high-quality posts or they are account-farmers and don't have enough of time, and ideas to write such high quality post.
Complaining that you being a newbie will not help. Obviously its the merit posters whom you are trying to impress or trying to get their attention by this method of pseudo-begging under a "newbie" blanket.

Actually, I like design/ layout of the forum (I am not sure which word is exact because I am not IP epxert). It's simple, I like simplicity and minimalism. Furthermore, there are lots of better-designed forums than bitcointalk, but those designs can distract users to the main points (contents of threads/ topics/ whole forum). And I guess this is one of the reason why merit system launched, to control spamming endemic that come from spammers/ account-farmers. Those ones simply tried to wear signature and take money, covered the forum with tons of shitty posts.
There are so many things people dont like about this forum. Its layout is bad, its software is old and trust system if fucked up and now you people are complaining of the merit system. If you have so many things in the forum which you dont like, then why stay in this forum? Leave this forum. At least a chunk of shitposters would be removed in this manner if they follow my advice.

Give merit system more time, it will change the forum better (both quality of threads/topics/ users and control the exponential growth of user quantity) certainly.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Aikidoka on March 04, 2018, 09:10:26 AM
If you do not agree with the Admin's decision, then why not get out of this forum? It is clear that you just want to rank up just to enroll in signature campaign. If you just posted something interesting, then I will be the one to give you some merit points. But unfortunately, it was not worth it.

This forum is not yours and it does not belong to the likes of you. From now on, learn to post interesting threads even if they are about the merit system as long as you provide the reasons as to why you see it garbage. Have fun getting negative feedback.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: doomistake on March 04, 2018, 11:33:38 AM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047


How come that a newbie were saying such thing, lol, im laughing right now literally .  ;D
To be honest, i'm going to say to you that this merit system is really helpful because this forum is too crowded. It minimize those people who are abusing this forum, also. Merit system is going to help us to improve our knowledge about cryptocurrencies, if we are going to pay attention we could notice that it is benefiting us and not just some annoying rules.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: TMAN on March 04, 2018, 11:46:44 AM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047


Please send any satoshi you have to one of the addresses owned by satoshi, then never sign into bitcointalk again.

Thanks


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: lucario21 on March 04, 2018, 12:21:44 PM
I've seen a reply contains HODL and it received a merit? I know giving a merit is on discretion of the reader but it wasn't a quality post and i've seen alot of them mostly from a post of legendary members. I don't know their reasons but the essence of merit was to give recognition/appreciation for the contributors in our community.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: DaftAjax on March 04, 2018, 07:13:20 PM
WTF? is this a benefit of merit system?
Such garbage comments get merit, whereas many comments are very useful but do not get any merit.
please answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.msg4023047#msg4023047

Mate it doesn't have to be long for it to receive merit. As long as you help the other fellows or gave a useful info, that's enough. Besides you really should've researched more about that term before you say anything. Think about what you're going to do before making any accusations. As many members stated here, HODL is a term about holding your coin.

You've been roasted son.

This garbage comment (according to you) is the origin of the famous slang which has taken the community by storm, and in fact this comment is far better than all your shitty posts.
Each and everyone here knows what HODL is and you think his comment didn't contribute anything?


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: RYXES on March 04, 2018, 07:37:10 PM
Someone is an impatient forum/topic poster, the whole point is to give help before you receive any 'reward'.

If you want to be here, then do so but help others too and be nice.

Rewards/Merits are just a bonus.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: Tyrantt on March 04, 2018, 07:45:13 PM
I've seen a reply contains HODL and it received a merit? I know giving a merit is on discretion of the reader but it wasn't a quality post and i've seen alot of them mostly from a post of legendary members. I don't know their reasons but the essence of merit was to give recognition/appreciation for the contributors in our community.

Open up post history from some legendary member and compare it to the posts of some lower rank. It's harder for lower ranks to rank up simply because they're new and usually just end up writing posts where they agree with someone and give nothing new in return. Just look at posts at any topic on "bitcoin discussion" board and you'll see what I'm talking about. Remember that the merit system is still fairly new, give it some time.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: jakeshadows27 on March 04, 2018, 08:12:19 PM
Brother easy dont be angry merit system is good for us i make more smart i posting our post not just making rank up without learning many thing here forum or you just want earn not to learn this forum is for learning study first before complain you will get merit here if you just posting good topic.


Title: Re: merit is GARBAGE
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 05, 2018, 02:04:53 PM
Brother easy dont be angry merit system is good for us i make more smart i posting our post not just making rank up without learning many thing here forum or you just want earn not to learn this forum is for learning study first before complain you will get merit here if you just posting good topic.

I think you should learn how to write in proper English before you post in this forum because from the looks of it you dont know how to type proper English or properly constructed sentences at all. Forget about merit that comes later. First you have to know basics about this forum and how it works and then learn about crypto. However learning about crypto should not be like book-learning LOL, rather its from your daily dealing with crypto.

We are not running an examination here for who know more about crypto and who does not and the merit to be distributed as sch.You shitposting pajeets need to stop searching this forum for money and a got job.