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Economy => Service Discussion => Topic started by: whiskers75 on September 27, 2013, 05:40:07 PM



Title: Inputs.io screwed up; any good alternatives?
Post by: whiskers75 on September 27, 2013, 05:40:07 PM
Let me quote the email which I sent to the owner, TradeFortress, a few minutes ago about how whiskchat.com is not working with it:
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First, you nearly lose me all my money [through a bug in the API]. Then, you change your IP. Now, you're not letting API requests get through, because WhiskChat uses a very dynamic IP and "whitelisting" doesn't cut it.
I've had enough: I simply want to stop using your service.
...(snip)... replacing Inputs with something better (bitcoind?), unless you can fix your service.

Anyone have any good alternatives to Inputs.io that are reliable? Coinbase (https://coinbase.com/?r=5245bc0b5286c0279e00002d) seems nice. (warning, that link is a shameless referral link)

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Title: Re: Inputs.io screwed up; any good alternatives?
Post by: maxmint on September 27, 2013, 06:01:20 PM
What exactly are you looking for? Blockchain.info has a nice API too: http://blockchain.info/api


Title: Re: Inputs.io screwed up; any good alternatives?
Post by: whiskers75 on September 27, 2013, 06:06:50 PM
What exactly are you looking for? Blockchain.info has a nice API too: http://blockchain.info/api
I've had good experiences with that API ;)
I'm looking for a service that lets me send micropayments (mBTC) with minimal fees/limits.


Title: Re: Inputs.io screwed up; any good alternatives?
Post by: KWH on September 27, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
Let me quote the email which I sent to the owner, TradeFortress, a few minutes ago about how whiskchat.com is not working with it:
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First, you nearly lose me all my money [through a bug in the API]. Then, you change your IP. Now, you're not letting API requests get through, because WhiskChat uses a very dynamic IP and "whitelisting" doesn't cut it.
I've had enough: I simply want to stop using your service.
...(snip)... replacing Inputs with something better (bitcoind?), unless you can fix your service.

Anyone have any good alternatives to Inputs.io that are reliable? Coinbase (https://coinbase.com/?r=5245bc0b5286c0279e00002d) seems nice. (warning, that link is a shameless referral link)

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Interesting, I usually have all the odd stuff happen to me but I am having no issues logging in.


Title: Re: Inputs.io screwed up; any good alternatives?
Post by: whiskers75 on September 27, 2013, 06:13:18 PM
Let me quote the email which I sent to the owner, TradeFortress, a few minutes ago about how whiskchat.com is not working with it:
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First, you nearly lose me all my money [through a bug in the API]. Then, you change your IP. Now, you're not letting API requests get through, because WhiskChat uses a very dynamic IP and "whitelisting" doesn't cut it.
I've had enough: I simply want to stop using your service.
...(snip)... replacing Inputs with something better (bitcoind?), unless you can fix your service.

Anyone have any good alternatives to Inputs.io that are reliable? Coinbase (https://coinbase.com/?r=5245bc0b5286c0279e00002d) seems nice. (warning, that link is a shameless referral link)

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Interesting, I usually have all the odd stuff happen to me but I am having no issues logging in.
You misunderstand my rant - I am ranting about their API.


Title: Re: Inputs.io screwed up; any good alternatives?
Post by: crazy_rabbit on September 27, 2013, 07:31:35 PM
Let me quote the email which I sent to the owner, TradeFortress, a few minutes ago about how whiskchat.com is not working with it:
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First, you nearly lose me all my money [through a bug in the API]. Then, you change your IP. Now, you're not letting API requests get through, because WhiskChat uses a very dynamic IP and "whitelisting" doesn't cut it.
I've had enough: I simply want to stop using your service.
...(snip)... replacing Inputs with something better (bitcoind?), unless you can fix your service.

Anyone have any good alternatives to Inputs.io that are reliable? Coinbase (https://coinbase.com/?r=5245bc0b5286c0279e00002d) seems nice. (warning, that link is a shameless referral link)

Reason for self-moderation: Deleting spam replies. Deleted replies will be posted below, or acknowledged.

Interesting, I usually have all the odd stuff happen to me but I am having no issues logging in.
You misunderstand my rant - I am ranting about their API.

As I understand it they are dealing with a lot of DDOS at the moment. Why not give them a chance to fix things?


Title: Re: Inputs.io screwed up; any good alternatives?
Post by: Sukrim on September 28, 2013, 02:50:14 AM
"Lots of micropayments" means e.g. sending someone 10 satoshis per word written? If yes, then anything on-chain would soon end up with enormous fees (relative to the outputs).

Maybe you can restructure your service in a way that people either get paid after a certain treshhold is eached (e.g. 0.1 BTC) or alternatively their balance gets cleared after 2 weeks of inactivity?

Inputs.io is NOT a bitcoin wallet, they issue internally transaferrable debt denominated in bitcoins that can be redeemed on demand. This is 100% the same as Paypal (you send them USD and you hope/trust that you can get a USD balance back). Coinbase seems to be a similar service, you deposit coins there and then you can redeem them (hopefully) some time in the future.

Bitcoin is not really built for (nearly) free Nano- or Micropayments, so it might make sense to use such a service provider, however you just have seen the risk and trust you put into the provider(s) of these services, as they can freeze or steal your coins at will (or out of bad luck/hacks/etc.).


Title: Re: Inputs.io screwed up; any good alternatives?
Post by: crazy_rabbit on September 28, 2013, 07:27:54 AM
"Lots of micropayments" means e.g. sending someone 10 satoshis per word written? If yes, then anything on-chain would soon end up with enormous fees (relative to the outputs).

Maybe you can restructure your service in a way that people either get paid after a certain treshhold is eached (e.g. 0.1 BTC) or alternatively their balance gets cleared after 2 weeks of inactivity?

Inputs.io is NOT a bitcoin wallet, they issue internally transaferrable debt denominated in bitcoins that can be redeemed on demand. This is 100% the same as Paypal (you send them USD and you hope/trust that you can get a USD balance back). Coinbase seems to be a similar service, you deposit coins there and then you can redeem them (hopefully) some time in the future.

Bitcoin is not really built for (nearly) free Nano- or Micropayments, so it might make sense to use such a service provider, however you just have seen the risk and trust you put into the provider(s) of these services, as they can freeze or steal your coins at will (or out of bad luck/hacks/etc.).

Although I was reading about a micro-payment channel coming in some future release. Sorry I don't have more info.


Title: Re: Inputs.io screwed up; any good alternatives?
Post by: Sukrim on September 28, 2013, 09:19:49 AM
Bitcoinj supports Mike hearns idea of rapidly adjusted micropayment channels. If you coded your back end in java, you might be even more interested in that. I don't know if bitcoind will integrate something similar soon/ever.


Title: Re: Inputs.io screwed up; any good alternatives?
Post by: whiskers75 on September 28, 2013, 10:00:10 AM
UPDATE: The owner contacted me and fixed it! Props to TradeFortress. (Side note: if you have the same problem with the API, PM me.)