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Title: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: ldtran26 on October 01, 2013, 01:19:30 AM
So, stupid me just got scammed on Ebay. I just want to put this out for everyone to save people from making the same mistake as I did. I knew it was too good to be true and I should have listened to my own advice.

The Ebayer name is ykourakis89
He/She is selling a 60 Gh/s BFL on ebay. It may look legit, but beware! he only accept bitcoins and once you send him the money, he'll stop responding and contacting you. This is a link to his ebay account.
http://www.ebay.com/usr/ykourakis89
The picture may be a girl, but on the invoice, it's a guy....
Sent him 1.7 btc so that he would initiate the transfer order through BFL lab, but once I did that, he stopped contacting. Definitely going to try to report him on ebay, but i don't think it'll have much luck with the whole bitcoin thing. THIS IS A MAJOR FLAW of BtC in my opinion (I acknowledged it was dumb of me to not use escrow in the first place..)
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/c8e68f3c0bf28275ec7ab75c90804258b7ee44bfc2bcbe7175cabb5bc502d80e
proof of transaction.



From: ykourakis89
To: long.tran
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 22:06:39 PDT

Dear long.tran,

Ok, I can do that.

- ykourakis89


From: long.tran
To: ykourakis89
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 21:06:56 PDT

Dear ykourakis89,

You're pretty clear and I understand your concern about getting scammed and that's why I asked if you want to use btcescrow, because that's pretty safe service. The whole bitcoin community uses it, you do know that, it protects both the buyer and the seller and the transaction gets processed extremely quick. There is no refund, once i said the transfer is done then the transaction is finished. I can't get a refund!
I know you don't want to get scam, but look at it from my point of view, I don't want to get scammed either. You're expecting me to take all the risk and pay the total in BTC upfront, would you do that?
I have a proposal, how about i give you 1.4 BTC (a deposit, half upfront) and you initiate the transfer on BFL. Just initiate, it doesn't complete till you accept it back. Then once you initiate and i see that you do have an order, then I will transfer another .7 BTC (1/4) and once the transfer is complete, i'll give you the rest. That way, you will have most of the money upfront. Does that sound fair?
If you agree, I ask that you offer the BFL to me on ebay and i'll accept it, but once its done, you can cancel the order and you won't have to pay the final value fee.

- long.tran


From: ykourakis89
To: long.tran
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 20:59:19 PDT

Dear long.tran,

Again, thanks for your time. I am not sure how much more clear I have to be here .
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Dear long.tran,

You're joking right? "i file claim" yeah the guy sent me an empty box//yeah the guy sent me bricks" paypal reviews case BUYER WINS MONEY BACK and item. I lose.

If you wanna send BTC we can proceed I think I gave you my cell already.

Wallet Address
1Q1PBbK2b9tx4T8K7LvXeiczEced4SE6yK

ESCROW IS SAME EXACT THING. Ill pass. You have my wallet, take as long as you need to think about it I am in no rush.


- ykourakis89


From: long.tran
To: ykourakis89
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 20:11:54 PDT

Dear ykourakis89,

Would you be willing to use an escrow service? btcescrow?
we can split the fees 50/50

- long.tran


From: ykourakis89
To: long.tran
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-23-13 23:22:31 PDT

Dear long.tran,

You're joking right? "i file claim" yeah the guy sent me an empty box//yeah the guy sent me bricks" paypal reviews case BUYER WINS MONEY BACK and item. I lose.

If you wanna send BTC we can proceed I think I gave you my cell already.

Wallet Address
1Q1PBbK2b9tx4T8K7LvXeiczEced4SE6yK

- ykourakis89


From: long.tran
To: ykourakis89
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-23-13 19:33:53 PDT

Dear ykourakis89,

why not paypal? Then both of us are protected.

- long.tran



If you feel sad for me, donate: 1QHTvfTzRNWWGcLakghSdSUytK9kpAmeBX


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: eman5oh on October 01, 2013, 01:30:55 AM
That sucks, I see an other scam running is people buying btc with paypal and then filing a claim. The seller gets screwed in this scam. Paypal refunds the payment as it is against their terms of service, buyer ends up with the money and the btc.


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: naidray on October 01, 2013, 01:47:32 AM
Thanks for telling this ! will be aware of .


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: ldtran26 on October 01, 2013, 02:06:13 AM
Also, I just found that through a listing of his (he put up a Radeon on both Ebay and Bitcoin talk) that he is indeed thedarkdad3
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=148368
So a member of the bitcoin community is scamming people for bitcoins. just perfect... this is why bitcoin will never become mainstream because there's too much way for people to get scam.


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: some1 on October 01, 2013, 02:31:20 AM
Trust no one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33835.0


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: b!z on October 02, 2013, 02:12:58 PM
Thanks for the warning. I will make sure to watch out for scammers like this guy.


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: eufracio25 on October 02, 2013, 07:45:46 PM
Thanks for the warning


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: arallmuus on October 02, 2013, 07:51:35 PM
thanks for posting this


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: streazight on October 02, 2013, 08:15:37 PM
thx for posting this and let us be aware of .


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: Picmin on October 02, 2013, 08:27:54 PM

Thanks for the heads-up... there's a lot of scammers selling mining hardware on ebay  >:(



Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: BitOrca on October 02, 2013, 08:36:57 PM
Do not use eBay to buy anything crypto-related. 

For one, most people are scammers there.  Also if you are buying or selling digital items, you are not covered by eBay or PayPal.  I know someone who bought a BFL preorder, to find it had been shopped.  I once sold 2btc and got paid, but then the buyer reversed the charges.  It is very risky to do business on there.




Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: ldtran26 on October 02, 2013, 11:12:16 PM
Thanks guys, if anyone has an Ebay account, please go on Ebay and report him. I believe he still has a listing out there. I've been contacting ebay and reporting him but nothing. Maybe if a bunch of people do it. They'll finally listen and find something shady going on


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: BITHCOIN on October 02, 2013, 11:25:19 PM
Bitcoin needs a to be able to reverse a coin sent


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: b!z on October 07, 2013, 10:48:12 AM
Do not use eBay to buy anything crypto-related. 

For one, most people are scammers there.  Also if you are buying or selling digital items, you are not covered by eBay or PayPal.  I know someone who bought a BFL preorder, to find it had been shopped.  I once sold 2btc and got paid, but then the buyer reversed the charges.  It is very risky to do business on there.




This is good info. eBay doesn't like BTC and they won't hesitate to close your account.


Title: Re: Got Scam on Ebay!! Please beware of this seller!
Post by: hulk on October 07, 2013, 12:15:14 PM
Sad, didn't know this thing could happen even with ebay protection.