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Title: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 03, 2018, 01:11:14 PM hi guys, i am new to this forum. discovered this section so decided to lend out what little coins i have
i have around 1 btc that i am willing to loan out at any given time (so around 11.000 usd as of today) my rate is 0.3% interest daily. if you can find any reputable lender here lending cheaper, i will match their rate, but this negotiation must be done before the terms are set. i take 110-120% collateral in altcoins and if the collateral dips to 105% of principle loan + interest then i will sell the collateral and you can keep the loan as i am new please use escrow with me and pay the fee contact information skype -- live:shiftkeybroken telegram -- @shiftkeybroken Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.5% daily or i will price match Post by: KWH on March 03, 2018, 01:13:42 PM hi guys, i am new to this forum. discovered this section so decided to lend out what little coins i have i have around 1 btc that i am willing to loan out at any given time (so around 11.000 usd as of today) my rate is 0.5% interest daily. if you can find any reputable lender here lending cheaper, i will match their rate, but this negotiation must be done before the terms are set. i take 110-120% collateral in altcoins and if the collateral dips to 105% of principle loan + interest then i will sell the collateral and you can keep the loan as i am new please use escrow with me and pay the fee I would look for a reputable escrow and be very careful with your loans as scammers are everywhere. If you are wanting to be the escrow, I would forget it as you simply do not have sufficient reputation to do so. Good luck! Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.5% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 03, 2018, 01:20:57 PM hi guys, i am new to this forum. discovered this section so decided to lend out what little coins i have i have around 1 btc that i am willing to loan out at any given time (so around 11.000 usd as of today) my rate is 0.5% interest daily. if you can find any reputable lender here lending cheaper, i will match their rate, but this negotiation must be done before the terms are set. i take 110-120% collateral in altcoins and if the collateral dips to 105% of principle loan + interest then i will sell the collateral and you can keep the loan as i am new please use escrow with me and pay the fee I would look for a reputable escrow and be very careful with your loans as scammers are everywhere. If you are wanting to be the escrow, I would forget it as you simply do not have sufficient reputation to do so. Good luck! thank you sir. i am definitely going to be doing escrow only deals, i do not trust anyone here and i do not expect anyone to trust me. i am only willing to use the best of the best escrowers. let me hope this will be a fruitful thread Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.5% daily or i will price match Post by: Cobalt9317 on March 03, 2018, 01:23:52 PM Simple you have to pay the escrow fee, you're only newbie and no history of any transaction.
You can still earn a minimal percent of the lend coins even if you shoulder the escrow fee. Best wishes to your business here in the community. Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.5% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 03, 2018, 01:27:03 PM Simple you have to pay the escrow fee, you're only newbie and no history of any transaction. You can still earn a minimal percent of the lend coins even if you shoulder the escrow fee. Best wishes to your business here in the community. that is incorrect, i do not have to. i see that most people are charging over 1% per day. i am charging 0.5% per day. now if a user wants to take advantage of the cheap rate, they will have to pay the escrow fee. me being a newbie does not change my terms Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.5% daily or i will price match Post by: Cobalt9317 on March 03, 2018, 01:51:35 PM Simple you have to pay the escrow fee, you're only newbie and no history of any transaction. You can still earn a minimal percent of the lend coins even if you shoulder the escrow fee. Best wishes to your business here in the community. that is incorrect, i do not have to. i see that most people are charging over 1% per day. i am charging 0.5% per day. now if a user wants to take advantage of the cheap rate, they will have to pay the escrow fee. me being a newbie does not change my terms For helping the community oneself need to make sacrifice to be deem trustworthy, however, oneself could also use it as a diversion for oneself original plan. P.S It is up to you what you deem necessary as I already instructed what I thought would be a good idea to established yourself in the community. Regards, Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.5% daily or i will price match Post by: zazarb on March 03, 2018, 03:41:47 PM Simple you have to pay the escrow fee, you're only newbie and no history of any transaction. You can still earn a minimal percent of the lend coins even if you shoulder the escrow fee. Best wishes to your business here in the community. that is incorrect, i do not have to. i see that most people are charging over 1% per day. i am charging 0.5% per day. now if a user wants to take advantage of the cheap rate, they will have to pay the escrow fee. me being a newbie does not change my terms Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.5% daily or i will price match Post by: bill gator on March 03, 2018, 06:55:09 PM that is incorrect, i do not have to. i see that most people are charging over 1% per day. i am charging 0.5% per day. now if a user wants to take advantage of the cheap rate, they will have to pay the escrow fee. me being a newbie does not change my terms You are right, you do not have to, but if you continue to operate within the lending atmosphere without any history or reputation then you will find yourself compelled to do so lest you find yourself out of business. You are complaining about the escrow rates, while encouraging your clients to use these escrows and eat the fees themselves. There are better options in every sense, so we are simply trying to help you to improve your service or only uninformed desperate users that have not done their research will be your clients. Being a newbie may not change your terms, but it certainly influences how people are likely to react to your terms. Continue to operate with a self-centered mindset and you will not find your service very successful. 1% per day? really? I am one of those who can fulfill almost any loan request , charging average only 0.3% per day. :) Zazarb proves this point. 1% per day, on top of the interest being charged on the loan, which is an additional 0.5% per day. Unless OP is willing to match your price as they claim, in which case it would only be 1.3% per day, but still a much worse deal than just simply using zazarb for the loan entirely. You can avoid the escrow, when the lender is reputable. The only way for OP to match Zazarb's rate, while maintaining an escrow and paying them 1% daily would be to offer a -0.7% rate, in which case you would be paying those that lend from you in order for them to still not break even on the escrow. Your options are either, change your terms or serve to primarily benefit a 3rd party escrow. Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.5% daily or i will price match Post by: DarkStar_ on March 03, 2018, 07:03:00 PM that is incorrect, i do not have to. i see that most people are charging over 1% per day. i am charging 0.5% per day. now if a user wants to take advantage of the cheap rate, they will have to pay the escrow fee. me being a newbie does not change my terms You are right, you do not have to, but if you continue to operate within the lending atmosphere without any history or reputation then you will find yourself compelled to do so lest you find yourself out of business. You are complaining about the escrow rates, while encouraging your clients to use these escrows and eat the fees themselves. There are better options in every sense, so we are simply trying to help you to improve your service or only uninformed desperate users that have not done their research will be your clients. Being a newbie may not change your terms, but it certainly influences how people are likely to react to your terms. Continue to operate with a self-centered mindset and you will not find your service very successful. 1% per day? really? I am one of those who can fulfill almost any loan request , charging average only 0.3% per day. :) Zazarb proves this point. 1% per day, on top of the interest being charged on the loan, which is an additional 0.5% per day. Unless OP is willing to match your price as they claim, in which case it would only be 1.3% per day, but still a much worse deal than just simply using zazarb for the loan entirely. You can avoid the escrow, when the lender is reputable. The only way for OP to match Zazarb's rate, while maintaining an escrow and paying them 1% daily would be to offer a -0.7% rate, in which case you would be paying those that lend from you in order for them to still not break even on the escrow. Your options are either, change your terms or serve to primarily benefit a 3rd party escrow. 1% a day is extremely overpriced for an escrow. Not sure how you're doing your math, it doesn't make much sense at all. Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.5% daily or i will price match Post by: bill gator on March 03, 2018, 07:12:55 PM 1% a day is extremely overpriced for an escrow. Not sure how you're doing your math, it doesn't make much sense at all. Take it easy on me, because you are right, I haven't used an escrow since Master-P became a scammer so I was coming in a bit uninformed on certain things. I haven't taken a peek at the escrow rates, I was being flippant a facetious during my demonstration. I was trying to say, that in principal OP would have to offer negative interest, rather than collecting interest, in order to compete with other lenders especially if he plans on having his clients supply the escrow fee while "matching" the rate of other lenders. i see that most people are charging over 1% per day. i am charging 0.5% per day. now if a user wants to take advantage of the cheap rate, they will have to pay the escrow fee. I was basing my 1% off of this post, just ran with it as a baseline for the conversation. Wasn't at all trying to be perfectly accurate with my numbers, just the principal behind them. I see now that they are referring to lending rates, not escrow rates, but I got my wires tied up. My math might be way off, but my principal argument remains, unless escrow rates are so low that they would be negligible. Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.5% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 04, 2018, 12:53:12 AM 1% a day is extremely overpriced for an escrow. Not sure how you're doing your math, it doesn't make much sense at all. Take it easy on me, because you are right, I haven't used an escrow since Master-P became a scammer so I was coming in a bit uninformed on certain things. I haven't taken a peek at the escrow rates, I was being flippant a facetious during my demonstration. I was trying to say, that in principal OP would have to offer negative interest, rather than collecting interest, in order to compete with other lenders especially if he plans on having his clients supply the escrow fee while "matching" the rate of other lenders. i see that most people are charging over 1% per day. i am charging 0.5% per day. now if a user wants to take advantage of the cheap rate, they will have to pay the escrow fee. I was basing my 1% off of this post, just ran with it as a baseline for the conversation. Wasn't at all trying to be perfectly accurate with my numbers, just the principal behind them. I see now that they are referring to lending rates, not escrow rates, but I got my wires tied up. My math might be way off, but my principal argument remains, unless escrow rates are so low that they would be negligible. your misinformation is coming from the fact that you think escrow fee == lending fee. thank you zazarb, for chiming in. i am officially reducing my fee to 0.3%. as for escrow, i know many trusted members who do free escrow here, and even if they don't the fee is very minimal. we can work that all out, i in no circumstance will expect you to go first on a deal with me. Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: Hatcher on March 04, 2018, 02:30:41 AM i take 110-120% collateral in altcoins and if the collateral dips to 105% of principle loan + interest then i will sell the collateral and you can keep the loan Does this mean that you're keeping the 5% additional profit that came from selling the collateral at 105% of principle + interest? Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 04, 2018, 02:34:06 AM i take 110-120% collateral in altcoins and if the collateral dips to 105% of principle loan + interest then i will sell the collateral and you can keep the loan Does this mean that you're keeping the 5% additional profit that came from selling the collateral at 105% of principle + interest? 105% is a safety figure (in case the altcoin is volatile and it crashes too fast to meet my order at 100% or something). all btc i get by the sale of the collateral will be kept by me, unless the borrower wishes to top up more collateral earlier on Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: bill gator on March 04, 2018, 02:53:03 AM your misinformation is coming from the fact that you think escrow fee == lending fee. This is incorrect. I do not think escrow fee == lending fee. My last post should have adequately explained my misunderstanding, in which I thought you were referencing a 1% escrow fee. I was simply saying that your clients will have to accrue a lending fee + escrow fee. It is nice to see you lowering your interest rate once you notice another member is doing it for less, but again why would anybody choose you over Zazarb if your rates are the same? You have to offer something unique and useful to your clients or they will go elsewhere, for the same fee or less without the hassle and fees of escrows. I made a mistake in the math, but I understand lending perfectly well and the principal/key issue still remains. Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 04, 2018, 03:21:29 AM your misinformation is coming from the fact that you think escrow fee == lending fee. This is incorrect. I do not think escrow fee == lending fee. My last post should have adequately explained my misunderstanding, in which I thought you were referencing a 1% escrow fee. I was simply saying that your clients will have to accrue a lending fee + escrow fee. It is nice to see you lowering your interest rate once you notice another member is doing it for less, but again why would anybody choose you over Zazarb if your rates are the same? You have to offer something unique and useful to your clients or they will go elsewhere, for the same fee or less without the hassle and fees of escrows. I made a mistake in the math, but I understand lending perfectly well and the principal/key issue still remains. i am aware that condoras does free escrow services. also, i'll settle at a -0.1% match. eg. if the cheapest is 0.3% then i will do 0.2%. i am counting escrow fees to be negligible as they usually are, and condoras does it for free (as people should) Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: Tirchiz on March 04, 2018, 12:27:53 PM Hey ShiftKeyBroken, Im also newbie. I've just tried to private message you but your message settings can't allow messages from newbies. Could you kindly pm me and connect for a chat. Thanks
Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 04, 2018, 12:36:39 PM Hey ShiftKeyBroken, Im also newbie. I've just tried to private message you but your message settings can't allow messages from newbies. Could you kindly pm me and connect for a chat. Thanks let's talk in the open, that's how i'd prefer loans to be discussed anyway. Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: Tirchiz on March 04, 2018, 12:53:42 PM Hey ShiftKeyBroken, Im also newbie. I've just tried to private message you but your message settings can't allow messages from newbies. Could you kindly pm me and connect for a chat. Thanks let's talk in the open, that's how i'd prefer loans to be discussed anyway. Now, my need is a 5 cents BTC 30 day loan but I don'thave collateral. So I had thought having you know the person could help. Thanks. Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 04, 2018, 01:09:46 PM Hey ShiftKeyBroken, Im also newbie. I've just tried to private message you but your message settings can't allow messages from newbies. Could you kindly pm me and connect for a chat. Thanks let's talk in the open, that's how i'd prefer loans to be discussed anyway. Now, my need is a 5 cents BTC 30 day loan but I don'thave collateral. So I had thought having you know the person could help. Thanks. post your address, i'll send you five cents. for next time, be sure to have valid altcoin or cash collateral before posting. Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: Tirchiz on March 04, 2018, 01:26:00 PM Hey ShiftKeyBroken, Im also newbie. I've just tried to private message you but your message settings can't allow messages from newbies. Could you kindly pm me and connect for a chat. Thanks let's talk in the open, that's how i'd prefer loans to be discussed anyway. Now, my need is a 5 cents BTC 30 day loan but I don'thave collateral. So I had thought having you know the person could help. Thanks. post your address, i'll send you five cents. for next time, be sure to have valid altcoin or cash collateral before posting. 1NdTxy4CKknJAbpXZPzZv2xDq5srFHBkvB Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: shegazy82 on March 04, 2018, 01:28:59 PM I am looking for 0.03BTC 72 hours
Who is your escrow chief Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 04, 2018, 01:42:59 PM Hey ShiftKeyBroken, Im also newbie. I've just tried to private message you but your message settings can't allow messages from newbies. Could you kindly pm me and connect for a chat. Thanks let's talk in the open, that's how i'd prefer loans to be discussed anyway. Now, my need is a 5 cents BTC 30 day loan but I don'thave collateral. So I had thought having you know the person could help. Thanks. post your address, i'll send you five cents. for next time, be sure to have valid altcoin or cash collateral before posting. 1NdTxy4CKknJAbpXZPzZv2xDq5srFHBkvB sent, have fun with that 5 cents hahah Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 04, 2018, 01:50:45 PM I am looking for 0.03BTC 72 hours Who is your escrow chief doable, i would prefer condoras since i believe he does it free of charge. Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: shegazy82 on March 04, 2018, 01:55:38 PM I am looking for 0.03BTC 72 hours Who is your escrow chief doable, i would prefer condoras since i believe he does it free of charge. Looks good :) Can we please communicate on any form of IM while putting minutes for all important stuff here I think this is the easiest way I will pay condoras 1% fee though My col. will be ETH LTC DASH or DOGE This is what I have at the moment but I still didn't decide what I am sending Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 04, 2018, 02:09:16 PM I am looking for 0.03BTC 72 hours Who is your escrow chief doable, i would prefer condoras since i believe he does it free of charge. Looks good :) Can we please communicate on any form of IM while putting minutes for all important stuff here I think this is the easiest way I will pay condoras 1% fee though My col. will be ETH LTC DASH or DOGE This is what I have at the moment but I still didn't decide what I am sending no problem. add me on skype -- live:shiftkeybroken or telegram -- @shiftkeybroken Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 07, 2018, 05:53:07 AM bumping this up
Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: KryptoTronic on March 10, 2018, 04:59:29 AM Hey ShiftKeyBroken, although I am fairly new here, Im not brand new and have been scouring the threads for a loan option, and thought maybe with you being new and needing to establish business and my being new and needing to establish credit history we couod work together and be of a mutual benefit to each other.
I am looking for .1 loan for what should only be 21 days. For collateral I could give my account details for my AmEx BB, my XDA-Developers Senior Account, or perhaps another of your choosing. I have a hashflare account that makes about .003 a week I would be willing to use as collateral as well. I am opening a digital marketing business which is where some of the loan will go. I am a freelance writer and also do myriad side jobs for my church people. I appreciate you considering my request and hope to hear from you. Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: ShiftKeyBroken on March 10, 2018, 05:00:38 AM Hey ShiftKeyBroken, although I am fairly new here, Im not brand new and have been scouring the threads for a loan option, and thought maybe with you being new and needing to establish business and my being new and needing to establish credit history we couod work together and be of a mutual benefit to each other. I am looking for .1 loan for what should only be 21 days. For collateral I could give my account details for my AmEx BB, my XDA-Developers Senior Account, or perhaps another of your choosing. I am opening a digital marketing business which is where some of the loan will go. I am a freelance writer and also do myriad side jobs for my church people. I appreciate you considering my request and hope to hear from you. invalid collateral. i only take altcoins, physical goods or cash Title: Re: i am lending bitcoins for 0.3% daily or i will price match Post by: KryptoTronic on March 10, 2018, 05:13:06 AM I just edited my last post Im sorry that my hashflare account was not included in the accounts section.
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