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Trump escalates trade war rhetoric with threat to tax Europe-made cars
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/.../trump-escalates-trade-war-threat-tax-eu-cars
18 hours ago - Donald Trump has escalated the threat of a trade war with Europe, warning that the US will slap a tax on cars made on the continent if the European Union (EU) retaliates against tariffs on imports of steel and aluminium. ... On Saturday Trump hit back in typical style, writing on..

No BUT you have to pay the USA to in their club ?

See the EU charge everyone else outside to trade    LIKE we the UK brexiters want out BUT they said
we will get charged tariffs and other penalties if we leave  :P..

So what the difference when the USA say the same as what your saying to the UK? :-*..

See if your companies are government funded like paying workers and what not how do proper
companies who have no government funded companies compete ?

Now remember you said you want the west to be a CAPITALIST countries like no public funded stuffs
because the rich don't like sharing..

So now what TRUMP is doing is fair TRADE ;)..Oh yes it is ..
You pay for labour out of our taxes and give it to the likes of bombardier now what if i want to make a plane does the government pay for my workers my shop and what not PLUS all the profits i get to keep them..

So enjoy CAPITALISM  :D :D :D..

I see the future and it will become a BATTLE GROUND all because of no UNIVERSAL INCOME..

Just think you can stop it HOW YOU ASK?..

Give everyone 10k a year to live on as a starting point to live to spend ;).
Oh you cannot do this you say?..

SO WHY ARE THESE LEECHES ON THIS MUCH THEN?..
The basic annual salary for an MP from 1 April 2017 is £76,011. MPs also receive expenses to cover the costs of running an office, employing staff, having somewhere to live in London and in their constituency, and travelling between Parliament and their constituency.

ALL FOR TALKING SHIT^^^^^^THE LEECHES^^^^^^^^^^

Now 10k is a 7th of a MPs universal income <<They get it till they die >:( >:( >:(
And a massive PENSION >:( >:( >:( >:(..

SO UNIVERSAL INCOME ;) ;)..

Rich and poor get it no questions asked ..
It never gets stopped till we die..
ARR but MPs get 76k and pension till they die ;)..AND FOR WHAT :-\ :-\Talking shit ;)..

LIE LIE LIE for 76k ..
Well we want 10k just for being a HUMAN ;) a starting point to spend to live to feel alive

You mean sad wheels for some :D NO CAR SALES :D :D :D

No car sales no sales for all the cut off companies like steel and what not bumpers lights many things that get put on cars will have tariffs slapped on them and good..

I say if you can afford a car what's 10% :-\ plus the 10% can go back into the governments pockets
then we can use it for our healthcare..

The TORIES always say we are not going back to being a socialist country OK so stop funding companies
with our taxes then like this below..

Quebec's Bombardier bailout is not an investment; it's corporate ...
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/...on...bombardier-bailout.../article27081111/
4 Nov 2015 - Bombardier's latest corporate welfare instalment, about $1.3-billion, is promised courtesy of the Quebec government. The company is also seeking another $1.3-billion from the federal government. For taxpayers curious as to why they should again bail out yet another corporate laggard, that possible ..

SEE ^^ companies are giving POLITICIANS a cut in backhanders to get that money..
Like i say i am in trouble get the public to bail us out with 1 billion and we will give you the politician
100 million and put it in a foundation wink wink and you can spend it on nice houses for yourself..

Bombardier YOUR PLANES ARE SHIT ;)..We have been funding a donkey instead of a car ;)
Because we have been giving FREE MONIES to Bombardier and they have been giving
FREE MONIES to POLITICIANS it's a FUCKING SCAM..

NO MORE FUNDING COMPANIES ..You are giving profits to billionaires not back to the public all you are doing is giving them a job that creates nothing but DEBT >:( >:(..

And the future end up paying for it >:(..Like i payed for WW2 and i wasn't even born >:( >:(

 Britain will settle its World War II debts to the US and Canada when it pays two final instalments before the close of 2006, the Treasury has said. The payments of $83.25m (£42.5m) to the US and US$22.7m (£11.6m) to Canada are the last of 50 instalments since 1950. The amount paid back is nearly ...

2006 < I was paying TAXES for a war i had fuck all to do with BASTARDS  >:(

Now if this is the case then i fought in that war i had to work to pay for it ..
Do you see what these FUCKING LEECHES DO >:( >:(

Put us in DEBT like SLAVES    FOR LORDY FUCKING SHIT FACES..

You will never ever use me as a slave NOT EVER you greedy MF..

UNIVERSAL INCOME or this planet will light up like you never seen in your FUCKING LIVES >:(..
You greedy MOTHERFUCKERS use us humans as slaves I.E me paying for a war i never had
then have the cheek to say it's for freedom while bringing in ISLAMIC TERROR groups
to rape and blow up our children ALL FOR YOUR GREED..

Now UNIVERSAL INCOME for all humans and we can spend and invent instead of poverty and death..
OH poor only attack the RICH they got the STUFF the poor got fuck all..

THE WESTERN WORLD will have so many TERROR GROUPS..  GANGSTER FIRMS ..
HOUSE INVASION GROUPS ..

And all because of you GREEDY SNOOTY FUCKS <<Who hang £100 million shit picture on your walls.

DAFT FUCKERS 100 million for a picture :D :D :D MUST BE CRAZY ..Or a money launder scam
Buy a picture to funnel bad monies ;)..

10K UNIVERSAL INCOME   and i go away never ever to be seen again..
We can start a whole country on a universal income and the UK will be first..

IT FUCKING WILL//I paid for a war i had fuck all to do with..
Because if i did i would of owned GERMANY because we won ;) ;)..

I would of owned all the European peoples and they would now all be on a universal income
plus free healthcare and free education  ;D..

And then we would of all really loved each other <<No hunt for monies <people kill for monies :'(
Like 9/11  2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS ..

And the BBC covered it up >:( >:(..
1000 points of light and 1 is coming to knock your teeth out :D

Silly me i am saying you will never ever use me as a slave YOU ALREADY DONE IT >:( >:( :P :P :P

I paid for a war i never had for FREEDOM  :D Cough food banks <<Well not me but my fellow country humans ..
I would never walk in a food bank it's shameful  :'( :'(..

A more likely tradewar wil be between China and the US.
Europe is dead right now.
China will become the new global superpower and Americans will do everything they can to stop that, including getting Russia out of the way.

Instead of making new taxes, USA should focus on making better cars maybe.

If the majority of the US citizens are preferring to buy European cars to the US made cars, maybe it is because American made cars suck.

Raising the taxes is not how you compete with a better country than you.

One way for US to win the trade war with EU is to prolong customs procedures for export items...hence US customs now takes 4 times longer to process outgoing mail making EU customers not want to buy from US. Oh, wait, that was NOT the plan, was it?

free market is only for those who are in the free market, you left it so fuck off.

the EU is what is needed to run the common market.

you are suffering from brainless politicians that have distorted your ability to understand the world

The next country to watch out for is China as us companies in China are already getting the terms of agreement being  violated by China in the area of hacking into some us companies operating in the China region, and we are all waiting for US response to this. The trade war is going to last long.

Protectionism is only going to hurt the USA, as more and more the global market will simply bypass the country. The only net effect that can come out from this, is less and less trade for Americans, a wealth source that will move elsewhere, hopefully emerging markets.

Trump is thinking 50+ years in the past, but the world simply doesn't function like that anymore. Sure it is an opportunity for the rest of us, but i don't think Americans will enjoy these policies for long, especially when they start feeling more and more the negative effects.

As for universal income, that is only a source of inflation. If everyone suddenly has 10k every month, what you used to do with 10k will now cost 20k. Instead of dreaming of earning money without working, worry more about having plenty of jobs (or entrepreneurial opportunities) so you have a better chance to work less for more.

I know your point of view. Most people get really scared at the future having less and less jobs due to automation, which is true. Maybe in the future there will be a tax on those robots to be distributed to everyone equally. The problem is then that the government then has to be in control of those robots funds, which some might be ok with, if there is a robot tax involved.

There still has to be enough incentive for people to want to work to make a balance in my opinion. There needs to be incentive to go above and beyond the amount being taxed. Then maybe people will want to innovate.

and free market deindustrialises it, the hedonistic "liberty" imperialism the us is using to run its empire, degrades it to banking cartel with propaganda line, the industry and manufacturing social structures provided by the christian settlers from europe are vanishing.

i cant blame us though, the problem cant be solved with tarifs though.

I Peay it should not turned into a real war were weapons will be used against each other and it will stop soon. If we keep expecting this developed countries attacking each other on trade and taxation what will be the hope of underdeveloped countries?

unlike uk EU has the sovereignity to do a trade war with the US, the uk has to follow orders from EU and from US

besides there never will be good american cars, america is dependent on immigrants and foreign capital and investments, their society is to hedonistic to achieve something like advanced cars, they are even losing the grip in space exploration despite having much more ressources than ussr ever had

americans will then buy their European and japanese cars in mexico and canada

I think people sometimes forget that you can't just ignore the US and move on, large amounts of companies in the EU rely on the US as their consumer market -- as we have a good deal of disposable income in the US (or at least, income that we spend on stuff even if we can't afford it)

I'm going to assume that Trump's rhetoric comes from the fact that there must be EU tariffs on American cars while American tariffs on EU cars are probably lower. That's the reason Trump is going after this, and if this is the case I think most should support him. If we want free trade, we must ensure that it is also fair trade.

well its nice to have european companies lobbying with the americans a good deal so stuff that can be produced only in europe will be produced in europe for europeans and stuff only available in usa will be buyable in the usa.

EU are not a bunch of idiots like the brits who you can just dump a ton of chlorinated chicken on, and then leave them with their banana republic worthless currency alone.

thats how superpowers nowadays destroy mini countries like the lunatics on the british island

The USA banking system will suck value from wherever it can get it. And whoever was smart enough to figure out a Ponzi scheme like the USA banking system was pretty shrewd. It sucks in money from around the world by essentially forcing world players into the Ponzi... by war or by trickery.

When the semblance of finding new peoples or new corporations to get into the Ponzi is finally seen through by everyone, the Ponzi will collapse. But until then, it has made the bankers (and those who follow them - Americans) into the rulers of the world.

The EU is only a bigger satellite of the American banking Ponzi. America donates money around the world. They make wars around the world. It is all done to maintain the money Ponzi behind the scenes.

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usa banking system rose with the violence comming from native americans. actually

here is the thing though

the reason US car manufacturing vanished is because the tarriff deals and labour costs made it cheaper to import than to make locally

solution
if it costs too much to import. then re-start making locally
EG create local employment oppertunities and no longer reliant on other countries and no longer handing funds out to other countries

I'm from the UK and I agree with this completely. Leaving the EU is a phenomenal act of hubris. There are plenty of people in the UK who are a century out of date, and think we still rule the world. They don't see that the UK alone has zero negotiating power against big economies, such as the US or indeed (once we leave) the EU.

That is right. But the UK has always the support of the US even before the EU.
The anglosaxon group may be come together if the UK leaves the European Union. Negotiating power may be less but in some situations due to the fact that UK would be back by the US now.

From what I read main reason Americans prefer Asian and European cars is that American cars are big gas guzzlers. That plus what people consider are luxury cars are also mostly European brands. Maybe these American companies should listen to what the market wants? 😁


Isn't the main reason for Brexit border control? I understand that freedom of movement among EU citizens is part of being a member but the immigrant quotas seem to be too much. I'm an Asian observer and I was shocked when I first heard the Brussel bureaucrats can just force individual countries to accept "refugees" from outside the EU.

But yeah, the UK is in for a lot of pain. The EU also wouldn't just let it go away scot-free to deter other members from leaving too.

you get punished if you are not aligned with the rules, usa also punishes cuba for not being its slave.

angolosaxon group doesnt mean anything it is banking cartel vs banking cartel they all dont want to be in debt and look bad and they all dont want to get into dependency of foreign population regarding production.

Obviously not speaking for all 'leave voters', but a big reason 'leave' won the referendum was rampant xenophobia stoked up by the media. A lot of people feel disenfranchised because of growing inequality in our society, and they are looking for someone to lash out at. Instead of attacking the Conservative party that causes the inequality, they instead lash out at whoever the tabloid press tells them is the villain. Usually 'foreigners'. I actually heard people complaining - the day after the result - that the black and asian people hadn't 'gone home yet'. It's appalling, not just the hatred but also the stupidity - they don't realise that immigrants with a different skin colour are often from outside the EU anyway and wouldn't be affected.


Yes, true. Scotland also seem to think that if they leave the UK they can then rejoin the EU as an independent nation. Absolutely won't happen. That would give the green light to separatists everywhere, from Catalonia to Bavaria.

As soon as we leave the EU, the US will bleed us dry. Their private healthcare firms will cherry-pick from the NHS, aided by a Conservative government who want to privatise everything they see.

It's a funny thing with cars. I've been fishing for a ford focus in the EU last year and found that the US versions are much better and more comfortable. 90% of EU cars were manuals with 90-125 hp, while 90% of models from the us were automatics with 150-200 hp. So I'm not that sure if Americans really want EU cars so much. When they are feeling like driving something with a good gas mileage they choose a honda, a toyota, or a hyundai.

its more about the mercedes and BMW not the low-end family cars
the proposed tarriff rates meant to rise extremely high for the high end vehicles but not move for the low end vehicles

if scots rejoin eu better be bad europeans, because the damn EU is very corrupt and under foreign lobby influence it is actively seeking to enslave all europeans to african problems, they are completely out of mind and out of that issue i completely can understand uk why they left it.

EUROCRATS are big retards.

You talk like there is not any corruption in the UK.
How about all the money that are spend for the Queen and the British royal family? It is a corruption scheme but you are not able to recognize it

Is it really? I'm probably asking the wrong person, because you're not from the US, but in the EU most people love US cars.

Sure they're expensive to run but if you ask someone if he'd prefer a c300 or a charger/camaro/mustang from a similar price range, I can bet that 90% people will choose one of the Americans. You can get more luxury cars in the EU, that's a fact, but what I wanted to say is that the exchange goes both ways. We take consummer and sports cars from them and they are interested in our exotics since we're making all the Lambos and Bugattis.

royalties exist in order to guard the top that would be the top of the republic, without a royalty the top heads would be massively corrupt.

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The United Kingdom has been negotiating a free trade agreement with the european union for some time but there was no consensus. European politics has been in a state of turmoil for some time with advocates of european unity long trying to build their own political circle in world geopolitics without tying the knot with the united states but some of their own weaknesses economic and some unethical interests and the united states will now follow different laws from the european union in terms of travel trade immigration and security cooperation. In other words the country will come out of the single market and customs union of europe and run on its own.

I am not following the trade war between USA and EU very closely. Trump did create new protections for some part of the economy but didn't Biden revert these changes again? I remember that there were some negotiations for a free trade agreement but it got blocked in the end. The democrats are more for free trade than the republicans, so it could be that under Biden now these talks will be held again. In the end trade wars are hurting both countries, free trade would be the best for all of us.