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Post by: Taras on October 07, 2013, 04:47:41 AM
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Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: gweedo on October 07, 2013, 05:05:50 AM
https://blockchain.info/tx/6133bacf0b2a779a075a2e18d0961d89ff9f46efc109bb8e1601a59d4d7e46f5
This transaction was pushed from MY ip address 1 minute and 10 seconds after I installed Bitcoin.
I have no idea who's bitcoins those are but the fact that the transaction went through my IP has me puzzled.
Of course, humbled as well. This has not happened to me since.
This here was my address: 18UfvFPqRp5LXwhQTZnkUy5bZxyqrbujTm
Completely unrelated to the transaction. Explanations anyone? :U

The transaction isn't yours, but it is one that you relayed to the blockchain.info node. It can't tell what ip the transaction came from, but since you relayed it to them first, they assumes it is yours.


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: Foxpup on October 07, 2013, 05:21:16 AM
Everybody running the Bitcoin software relays everybody's transactions to and from everybody else. What, you thought "peer-to-peer" was just some kind of marketing hype?


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: DobZombie on October 07, 2013, 05:27:26 AM
Everybody running the Bitcoin software relays everybody's transactions to and from everybody else. What, you thought "peer-to-peer" was just some kind of marketing hype?

Be nice


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: Taras on October 07, 2013, 05:32:08 AM
Everybody running the Bitcoin software relays everybody's transactions to and from everybody else. What, you thought "peer-to-peer" was just some kind of marketing hype?
I found it fishy considering it happened one minute after installing the client and it hasn't happened since.
Is it particularly rare or am I "unlucky?"


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: Foxpup on October 07, 2013, 06:07:00 AM
I found it fishy considering it happened one minute after installing the client and it hasn't happened since.
Is it particularly rare or am I "unlucky?"
Don't worry, it'll happen again eventually. Or do worry, if you think having your IP address associated with that transaction instead of one the thousands of other Bitcoin users is "unlucky" rather than "lucky". In that case, run Bitcoin over Tor, and then it won't happen again.


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: Taras on October 07, 2013, 06:21:23 PM
I mean "unlucky" as in I don't have more than one transaction relayed by my IP.


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: Rannasha on October 07, 2013, 06:33:37 PM
I mean "unlucky" as in I don't have more than one transaction relayed by my IP.

There are probably many more transactions relayed by your IP, just none where your machine was the last link to Blockchain.info. The site displays the IP of the node it received the transaction from, but the Blockchain.info node is just one of many. Your machine has probably relayed many more transactions to other nodes in the network. Nodes of regular users that don't happen to have a website running that shows relay-information.


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: dragonkid on October 07, 2013, 06:36:13 PM
Everybody running the Bitcoin software relays everybody's transactions to and from everybody else. What, you thought "peer-to-peer" was just some kind of marketing hype?

I can't stop laughing after reading this.  ;D  ;D  ;D ;D  ;D


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: BCB on October 07, 2013, 06:38:23 PM
If you are concerned about privacy and you have a dynamic ip you may want to reboot your modem to assign another ip now and not use that bitcoin address again now that you've broadcast both to the world.


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: grue on October 07, 2013, 10:00:08 PM
on a serious note, blockchain.info should really remove the "relayed by ip" info from their site. its accuracy is utterly crap and only serves to confuse new users.


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: DannyHamilton on October 08, 2013, 02:54:18 AM
on a serious note, blockchain.info should really remove the "relayed by ip" info from their site. its accuracy is utterly crap

I suspect it's accuracy is 100%.  In other words, 100% of the transactions relayed to blockchain.info are relayed from the IP that they indicate.  It's not their fault that people don't bother to read the label on the ip address and make silly assumptions about it.

and only serves to confuse new users.

Sure, but if we got rid of everything that confused new users, bitcoin wouldn't exist. 


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: redtwitz on October 08, 2013, 04:05:29 AM
on a serious note, blockchain.info should really remove the "relayed by ip" info from their site. its accuracy is utterly crap

I suspect it's accuracy is 100%.  In other words, 100% of the transactions relayed to blockchain.info are relayed from the IP that they indicate.  It's not their fault that people don't bother to read the label on the ip address and make silly assumptions about it.

Granted, but it's a completely useless statistic.


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: DannyHamilton on October 08, 2013, 05:33:01 PM
on a serious note, blockchain.info should really remove the "relayed by ip" info from their site. its accuracy is utterly crap

I suspect it's accuracy is 100%.  In other words, 100% of the transactions relayed to blockchain.info are relayed from the IP that they indicate.  It's not their fault that people don't bother to read the label on the ip address and make silly assumptions about it.

Granted, but it's a completely useless statistic.

Useless to you.

Not useless to someone that wants to know where a transaction (or block) was relayed from.


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: redtwitz on October 08, 2013, 06:48:18 PM
on a serious note, blockchain.info should really remove the "relayed by ip" info from their site. its accuracy is utterly crap

I suspect it's accuracy is 100%.  In other words, 100% of the transactions relayed to blockchain.info are relayed from the IP that they indicate.  It's not their fault that people don't bother to read the label on the ip address and make silly assumptions about it.

Granted, but it's a completely useless statistic.

Useless to you.

Not useless to someone that wants to know where a transaction (or block) was relayed from.

I just fail to see a case where that information would be useful. Why would I care which IP relayed my transaction to blockchain.info?


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: Abdussamad on October 09, 2013, 01:31:23 AM
I just fail to see a case where that information would be useful. Why would I care which IP relayed my transaction to blockchain.info?

It is very useful to me. For instance if someone is using a blockchain.info (bci) my wallet or API then then it says as much there.


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: DannyHamilton on October 09, 2013, 03:09:04 AM
Granted, but it's a completely useless statistic.
Useless to you.

Not useless to someone that wants to know where a transaction (or block) was relayed from.
I just fail to see a case where that information would be useful. Why would I care which IP relayed my transaction to blockchain.info?

The fact that you can't see a case doesn't mean several cases don't exist.  If you don't need it, don't use it.

One possible use case perhaps would be for a TOR user to monitor and verify that their IP isn't showing up at all on any of their transactions.

There are other uses as well.  I'm not sure why it bothers you so much.


Title: Re: Can someone explain this because what is this
Post by: Leehoya on October 16, 2013, 03:26:24 AM
It is a transaction that you relayed.