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i have noticed that our forum is flooded with threads that are created by newbies that post recycled topics, meaning, the topics are already posted and this clearly shows that newbies are not reading, my advise to all newbies, you must read first, learn to back read and study the threads here, do not just post. in doing so, this will prevent you from being locked out, posting a new topic doesn't make you merit-worth or rank up.

to some ranked members, we can help newbies by giving them advise to post quality topics worth of time and informative as possible, we should only reply on topics that has not yet been discussed so we can discourage flooding of nonsense threads.

if you can post some tips here for the newbies who wishes to rank up but deserving to be merited please do so. let us help each other.

some of my advise would be:

1. look for the date of which that topic was created, if it has already hundreds of replies please choose another updated topics to reply at

2. never reply to nonsense inquiry or poll that is illogical

3. learn to write in proper english grammar or at least can be understood by many

4. reply directly to the point, it doesn't matter if it is just a one-liner reply, as long as it is direct to the point, and not full of so many not so important words, a long paragraphed reply is not the basis of having a merit or just to make it look good to your campaign/ bounty managers.

I noticed that too and it is really dragging the quality of the forum downwards. I think that your post should be addressed to/by moderators too and pinned at the top.

And I also address the moderators to start giving replies in such forums by stating that the question has been asked and answered to already with the link to the original thread and start putting recycled topics in the recycle bin. The repeated misdemeanor should be punished with a temporary ban. That is what I saw on other forums and I think it would make up for a much more efficient system then using Merits to improve the quality of the topics.

that would be a lot of work for the mod, simply delete the thread if found guilty of redundancy. but i hope your suggestuon will be taken into considerations. as for the newbies, we cannot blame them though because they are misled by their impulses to create a topic. what they need is guidance and reminders. thanks mate

No problem. I know it is a lot of work but I noticed it working on other forums. Usually, after a very short period of time, users learn to discipline.

I hope there's a lot of newbies here in forum can read your advice. It can greatly help not only to the beginners as well as to everyone. Were here in forum not just to earn but also we need to learn a lot. How we can gain more knowledge if the topics recycled?

I ynderstand your point and it actually has me bugged too with how many redundant posts I’ve been seeing. However can we really blame them? I’m talking about the newbies here because I think what if that was really their wuestion and they want to have a personalized thread soThat they can ask their opinions and reply directly to those who would be responding to their topic. I think we have to give them some slack nut for those who are long here and are just recycling then that’s a different matter

It's okay We are here to share ideas to others. People are getting crowded in this forum and some of them needs information so i don't blame them either. what we wanted is to help others. Just keep supporting and spread positive vibes. Soon we will rise and our family will be rich as we are in Crypto world.

IMO, recycling will also help them gain some knowledge, as you can see with the help of the older threads they're having an idea what to do. But in our case, here on our forum it is highly prohibited, and still they're breaking the rules just to gain some activities ,which is wrong. They maybe having a hard time making some prestigious posts and it may also be the reason why they're doing such things.

For us with a higher rank, we cant just ignore this, they must be guided. But as you can see its not just the newbies whose been doing some recycled and repeatable threads some of them are on the higher ranks. I really dont know why they've been doing this as for them with such rankings higher than a Member. (Visit the Meta Section and you'll see some posts repeated also by the higher ranks)

My advise: If you see something like it should have not been posted, REPORT IT TO THE MODERATOR, even if it takes some time to be removed.

yes you are right, I see there are many same questions and, in reply repeatedly.
if i still have the rest of smerit, i will give it to you.
it looks like you are very concerned about this forum. and it was very nice.
This forum needs someone like you, to reduce the number of shitposter!

Dude, it's like this for a long time now, it's not something new. They perfectly know that the topic they are going to post has already been posted multiple times and they don't care. A lot of these topics are created to make their alt account able to reply with generic reply re-ashed comments, senseless ideas and so on...

And since we are on it, I would like #5

Post in the correct section....

And you should consider this point because your topic has nothing to do in the bitcoin discussion section

Your suggestions are something that is being known already but people choose to ignore it and blaming the newbies will not be right because what you don't know, you don't know. While I was a newbie, I had created one thread after I read several they I didn't undertsnad but now, I know better that going though google and putting bitcoin talk at the end of the request will get me what I need. While its permissible for newbies, its should be frown at by higher rank members.

Wasn't the merit system supposed to fix all the problems we are having? I would love to see some stats to see if it has slowed down the spamming or if the spamming has gone in another direction...don't just see why we can't close certain useless threads after X amount of time?

Also noticed that and it makes the quality of this forum really low, I really wish that merit system will have a great impact on this problem because it just make people wanting to read threads not doing it because it just recently discussed at the other threads

thanks for the tip, i have created this topic here in bitcoin discussion not for the newbies only, as what others have observed, there are high ranking members who also recycle topics, and the fact that beginners didnt spend their time reading in beginners section, they are already here in bitcoin discussion and posting such topics without even bothering to read the thread intended for them before they post. besides, who would wanted to back read from thousands of threads just to check if his prospected topic has already been discussed. as what you have said, they don't care. that is why i created this topic.

so i am requesting your permission to retain this thread for everyone else' sake. not only for the newbies but for all of us. if you think it is still not considerable, i will gladly move this topic to beginners and help.

just a thought,

 if we are in a race, and a runner is in the middle of the race half way to the finish line, would he go back to the starting line to check if he is in the correct lane?  no, wouldn't it be helpful to the runner to see halfway to the finish line a guy with a banner saying, hey dude, you are on the wrong lane, move it! you helped the runner to finish his race by guiding him and not being disqualified and almost wasted his good start.

that's right, the first time i explored bitcointalk.org was about a half year ago, and I heard lots of threads are being deleted but as  I explore now, topics are the same as the last time I visited.

I don't understand what you mean by don't reply to a thread with hundreds of replies?

First you advise newbs not to make new threads about re-hashed topics.... Then you tell us not to reply to an existing thread with hundreds of replies... so which is it?

say I wanted to talk about why Bitcoin doesn't offer enough replay protection. So I'm itching to start a new thread on that, but I want to be responsible, so I use the search function first to see if it exists... And it turns out that it exists.

But the thread that exists has 100s of replies... does that mean I can't post my opinoin now on either a new thread or the old thread?

So what do I do? I don't understand.

Do newbs get banned just for doing this? Seems unfair?

My own suggestion is that the new topics creation should be automated by the thread moderator, any new topic that is similar to already created or existing ones should be deleted immediately to avoid duplications of existing ones, and all  newbies should learn how to avoid creating an existing thread by using the forum search engines.

Most of the time, I saw that some long time ago postings were pinned to the first page. I didn't dare to reply to this post because I was afraid to be locked. Most of the posts were not quality posts. Some newcomers came in. They didn't know what to do. , so post some very logical and inconsistent topics, I hope they can come to see.

Your technique is the same as theirs. What you are complaining about is a recycled complaint as well. We are all guilty of social engineering. Anyways. Even the most seasoned veterans here at bitcointalk are guilty of grammar ignorance. And most of them are polyglots and they are more superior to your pride of english only knowledge or google translate dependence.

This is where the mods and forum staff come in and so many threads and posts get deleted. The mods have been doing that lately. Though sadly we can say this has really overwhelmed them and it now looks like they sleep on their jobs. Most times, even the questions asked already have been answered but the lazy noobs won't want to make their research upon entering the forums. Most people don't bother to read. Even read information before their noses.

That's true and I really find it annoying already. The thread's quality is low because of non sense recycled threads asking about Bitcoin's stability, how bitcoin affects our lives..the world, cashless world, Bitcoin will be alive for whatever year or in the future, is it worth it to invest or when to invest, etc. etc. Seriously  :-\

I cannot reply to those threads anymore I'm out of words to say... Ever since I've joined this forum I see correlated and almost the same threads. Well I guess those Jr. members who goes with the flow of it- do it for campaign which is a real trash. Well as for the newbies, probably they are too lazy to browse Bitcointalk.org that's why they just ask the questions they're thinking of which is the same with the other newbies at different times/moments. It is actually hard to resolve everytime this happens... the moderators needs to work with  2x effort  :-\  Your idea is great, but it won't totally eliminate those recycled threads, and as for (almost all of) us who's doing campaigns... it would just be a waste of time replying to those (direct to the point) since most of the signature campaigns requires certain lines or character count.

More high ranker also post  at recycled topics because of signature campaign. This will also help them to promote ICO specially for newbies but still it is just to complete their post count for their payout. They also help others to read at the right section by commenting to read more at give links regarding the discussion.

Agree mostly, but there are some exceptions to the rule... and perhaps worth noting that some of these behaviours coming under criticism aren't exactly rules but guidelines. And it's Bitcoin! There's a new guy discovering it for the first time every day. I remember, with some embarrassment, some of my early posts...

For example, I can't really decide if I want one megathread for one particular questions (I see the wall thread in Speculation as such), which probably brings up some old topics over the months, but aren't searchable any longer in the masses of posts. And when asking questions, I can't blame (totally) newcomers who might feel they are asking a unique question. There are times even I spend a bit of time digging up an old post I know I wrote to a similar topic but simply cannot locate any longer.

Replying something relevant to a really old thread could also be useful (admittedly rare), but could also be construed as necroposting.

I am more focused on point number 4 that you post. Most newbies who have joined various campaigns/bounty posts with long paragraphs because they are required to do so in a campaign that requires them to post with a minimum limit of characters per post. I would rather advise campaign service providers to make better arrangements than to apply a minimum character limit in the posts of their campaign participants. So we can not completely blame the newbies because they are forced to do so.

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I don't think so....
Normal humans maybe won't have questions like: does bitcoin causes death, how to tell about bitcoin to neghbour's mother in lae and etc.
I think aim of those shitposters is to open topic from alt account and then write long posts from their paid sig campaign to make it appear like quality (some thinks that quality post = high quantity).
You can report them easily as I talked to some mods here, they will delete it.

From the past months staying in this forum i noticed that lots of old topics bump because of users who intended to rush their post are spamming this thread like crazy. And more of that threads are easy to answer if you are new comer for example the topic "what is the used of bitcoin?" newbie can answer this everyday without noticing by the mods. Today because of the merit system the race to get to the first page of the thread is like applying to a campaign. The reason is if you have an informative and accurate answer and you are on the first page the possibility the get some merits is there.

Both.
From the first page:
Should you leave your Formal work for Crypto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2851181.0)  50 pages...do you think you can add something to that?
Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency?  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1502768.0) 214 pages....I guess it's enough already


Topics in the development and in technical areas don't get spammed by shit posters, probably because they mistake the title for being in a foreign language.

As long as you voice your opinion in a normal fashion, with arguments and not just for liners to make your post look bigger then you're not going to have a problem with it. But it would be nice to check and see if your question hasn;t already been raised and maybe even answered before.


They seldom get banned for posting useless replies, they get banned usually for copy pasting and spam.


But unfortunately the forum has been infected with users like this poor fellow:
His reply fits perfectly to the topic, isn't it?

i understand, you are confused, you shouldn't be here in the first place, but since you are one of those confused newbies, let me enlighten you and help you to understand more on how things go around in this forum.

i have advised  (in my own opinion only) newbies not to reply on a hundred-replied topics, why? because , do you think all those replies are unique from each replies? since some users are not reading, they tend to post their reply not knowing somebody have already said the same thing, rule is, do not post your opinion that has already been written by somebody ahead of you. same goes in creating threads, newbies are advised to spend more time to read first.

if you are itching to create your own topic, without even checking if it has already been posted, your post will be considered as sh!t post or topic. it will be deleted and eventually you will be banned if this act is repeatedly done. try to create more timely and relevant threads, as informative as possible. scratch your itchy heads more for you to think of more current issues.

it is not unfair, the mod are just protecting the quality of this forum, newbies are pushed to create more efficient and constructive post because this forum is being plagued by sh!t posters. 

and to remind you, this is just an advise, it is for you to follow or not. i am not asking you or telling you to do so.

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