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As i am reading comments in the forum, i saw an account with 3 activities and a 100+ merits. Im curious how he/she get that. I dont know if he/she had a backer or what. Is merit can be manipulated? Im not saying that he/she manipulated it but i dont know just my instinct.

It is absolutely an alt for sure who are abusing the merit system. It is not manipulated it is given, try to check the merit summary of that user you'll be able to see who give the merit to him and if you have the time please do report it because it is an abuse that needs to be punished.

Please smack yourself in the face for the title of this thread..


Is merit system can be manipulated?

you should walk up to your mother and punch her in the face for breading someone who writes like that

What do you spaztards not get about this being an English language forum?

Being an NNES (https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NNES) myself, I'll just answer the OP despite his English language level, I know the struggle.

This often happens when someone buys Full member account and he deletes all the posts of the account.

If you do so, then you loose all the activity points but you keep the merit. This is only an indication that the account may have been traded.

Manipulated? maybe traded by them. :D
If you look at it, you should see and attention of his post first, if it turns out good and very constructive post then you do not need to be suspicious with the merit that has been obtained by him. ;)

To catch the merit abusers is one of the major task of DT members nowadays, this shows that how merit abusers are manipulating the merit system for money. I am not sure about the account you are talking about but surely he/she must have connected roots with the bad-asses on this forum.
It is our duty to report these users (who are manipulating the system) to staff members if we find them suspicious.

Did you look at his/her posts? You should've done that first before thinking that way. There is also someone that I know in the forum which is still a member but he has merits over 500+ if I'm correct and I must say, he deserves those merits.

Merits can be manipulated in a way where you have an Alt account that is high-ranking, you can give merits to your other accounts. That's called merit farming but a lot of those users are getting banned because it's unethical to do such things.

Reply for the title : Its possible, but will be harder as we have vigilant members too here and if they observe this behavior then you will be red tagged.

PS: Why to cheat when you can earn Merits easily by making good posts. :)

That is the problem, they are having a hard time earning or receiving merits because they are also having a hard time making good and constructive posts. I think that is the most common problem of lower ranks these days, well most of them.

Rofl.  Dude, we should be helping him...  English obv isn't his first language.


Sorry man.  I give you an F even with all the effort done in this post.  Your grammar def needs work and you need to know how to use punctuations.  ;D

dude .. harsh

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anyway, It should be an alts by some high ranks member and his post is so good that it earns a lot of merits.

First, what is the name of that account and second is did you look at his profile and his/her last post.
Always check the profile mate maybe another "nullius" came in.
But in his/her numbers of activity maybe what you are thinking is right, you must get his/her info. or the link of that account and report to admins here in our forum.

Harsh? Rude? not needed?

I will tell you what isn't needed and that is all these shitposts and shit threads on an English Language forum from People who are only here to earn a few Satoshi's..

If the merit system is so confusing then re read the fucking threads there are hundreds of them about Merit, if you cannot communicate in English go to school, read books - watch films.. the sad thing about all of this is that no one seems to help themselves here.

and if you don't understand the history of HODL after reading the thread then why the fuck are you still here? its like the Pajeet who was moaning about Lazlo getting a shit ton of merits for the Pizzsa thread, it is ridiculous that these people want to take funds from Signature campaigns, airdrops, bounties and whatever other earning avenues there are but they refuse to actually look into the history of Bitcoin.

Yes it can be manipulated, but please don't tell us who the user is so we can't investigate it. People who are found to be abusing the system will face the consequences.


You are apart of the National Nuclear Energy Series? Wow.


What's your motivation? What was your motivation for joining the forum? Money probably, hence why you're complaining. Your motivation should be to contribute to the forum, but you've already got 7 merit, though it wouldn't surprise me if some of those have been traded. And you will become a Member when you have 10 merit, so it's not exactly out of reach.

can that be happened if the owner of that account has a multiple account then he pass the merits to his/her new account
or he know a lot of bitcoiners or a lot of friends so he ask for merits

can that happen you English properly learn teach or post in local forum for question

Yes it can be manipulated. But merit system, created to help people make a good quality post. Now we must work hard to get more merit for level up.
I see the merit system successful implementation. So it's time to work hard and usefull post for others people's.
I hope merit system can running forever.

I think so. Because I had seen that many friends are exchanging their merit. Like one has some merit. Another friend ask that friend whos has merit to goive him some. So without judging the post quality that friend is giving the merit where as the other person with good post quality doesn't getting the merit. Not only this there are also many people who are selling merit.I heard that they demand 100 merit for 0.1 btc to 1 btc.
So to me I think merit system is manipulated.

That is an alt that abusing the merit system. You can check the merits summary to know who sent that merits and try to report that because abusing the merit system might get punished from the administration.

Why don't you report such profiles. And that prices you are quoting for merits sounds ridiculous as well ? If you notice such sales happening outside this forum, even then it should be reported to the moderators. This is the least we can do to get those merit system abusers punished. One thing that I do not like about all this is that though the members who are involved in these practices do get punishes when they are reported, the merit they spend are wasted. We already have shortage of merits keeping in mind huge number of members competing for them.

You know I was being sarcastic right...?  ;D

Look at the jerick guy's post history.  He then proceeds on opening this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3074235.0

ROFL.  If the mods were really serious about finding alts, I think those threads being started by a 'random noob' and being bumped by those 'other noobs' are good places to start.

Dude I don't know, people keep telling me I am rude and Harsh - but fuck me this shit is getting stupid now '

^  I never said you're rude.  I said 'dude'.  ;D

you aren't man - but some of the libtards are

Absolutely not, and the word " manipulated " cannot be true in the field of the merit system, but there are few traders of merit points (especially, some users who have an alternative account) who have been punished (through negative trust).
In addition to that, thanks to merit system, It has become easier to overthrow the scammers and to report them.

To cause considerable manipulation of merit system, a merit source needs to be involved in this. Since the admin is picking these merit sources, I am sure he is doing all the research about the chosen member. The post of merit source comes with  a lot of responsibility. Also, I think that manipulation on large scale (awarding merit points in bulk) is very easy to notice. Since only established members are being chosen as merit sources, I do not think they will risk their account by getting into merit abuse (buying and selling of merit points) . 

I do not think that manipulation will be the right word to use for this but little abuse of the merit system is going on for sure. This is evident from threads like :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.0

These threads are filled with posts from other members showing how other members are trying to cheat the system. These cheaters are sending merits in bulk to the alt accounts to rank them up. This is additional problem for genuine users as it makes merit more scarce. Also it is very discouraging for members to see these abusers getting away this shameless act.

yes, but it is just our instinct. we can't judge anyone from a opinion. If you find again that please report here and also check where he got the merit points.

This is not true. I'm not a merit source, but I have awarded well over 100 merit points.

Every system has its loopholes, especially when its newly established. What people have to understand is that despite the shortcomings of the said system, it shouldn't be used as a way to get through it or to cheat it. Most members here would easily think that they would get away with what they did but the truth is that, one way or another, you will get caught and you will have to face the consequences of your actions. Each and every one of us have a choice to manipulate the system to easily get merits, but if you're a responsible and honest member, it will never cross your mind to do such act. Honesty is and will always be the best policy.

Nice to see someone concerned about the forum , most are just worried that how will they rank up now. Regarding the merit system being manipulated, some people are doing it. I know that there are always some people who like to take the easier route even if it breaks the rules. Senior  members are giving negative trust to the members involved in such practices and we also have "merit police" reporting such cases in threads like " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.0 " . Nice to see all good people making combined effort to make the new merit system successful.