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Title: Governments now own BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on October 09, 2013, 03:51:54 PM


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: maursader on October 09, 2013, 03:55:22 PM
Pretty good one! Haha, I enjoyed it.

I feel good about it because like most bitcoiners say, "any press is good press". As much as the gov't would like to think they have officially controlled bitcoin, they really have not.

But, whatever floats their boat eh?


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on October 09, 2013, 04:35:42 PM
i feel uneasy.

not sure why... i just do...


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: meanig on October 09, 2013, 04:44:39 PM
i feel uneasy.

not sure why... i just do...

A typical Government is full of competing interests and mini empires. I wouldn't be surprised if there was internal fighting over who gets to control the coins.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: dianemajor on October 09, 2013, 05:11:29 PM
Yea i wonder who will get control of them. I wonder what they would do with them. 


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: jeffhuys on October 09, 2013, 05:13:53 PM
Yea i wonder who will get control of them. I wonder what they would do with them. 

Nobody. Nothing.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: kuusj98 on October 09, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
Government probably just converts it into fiat and puts it into they'r debt they have.
No but seriously, I don't think they can inpact us by that much, the only thing that could happen is that they have had theyr wakeupcall and, yeah you get it....


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: Timo Y on October 09, 2013, 05:37:55 PM
I bet that in a few years we will hear about the first scandals involving lost or stolen government bitcoins.  Wallet security is not a trivial task for a large organizations, and government agencies have a track record of data security blunders.      

One positive effect of this is that government agencies will now be forced to fully understand how bitcoin works, whether they want to or not.  That will help campaigners such as the Bitcoin Foundation in their efforts of educating governments.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: TheKoziTwo on October 09, 2013, 05:50:14 PM
I feel uneasy too... if they sell the bitcoins, that will put USD in the hands of the government instead of someone else. That is never a good thing. Imagine if they managed to confiscate the entire 600k and sold it? that would drive a massive amount of USD away from bitcoin and into the US government. There is no way this can be a positive outcome.

The best thing that can happen would be if they destroyed the coins, that will make all our coins more valuable.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: Buffer Overflow on October 09, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
Who's to say they didn't have large amounts before SR got busted? They could of been early miners easily.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: maursader on October 09, 2013, 10:38:39 PM
Those bitcoins that have been seized are only a small portion of a very large number of existing bitcoins. Come on. Only 27,000 BTC out of 11 million? Give it a rest, even that kind of volume won't do much. It's a tear drop in an ocean. You're fine. Calm down people.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: zeroday on October 09, 2013, 11:09:51 PM
Some day gov't can just claim all the bitcoins their property as they did it with images of 3D printed gun  :-\


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: franky1 on October 09, 2013, 11:20:27 PM
simply put

bitcoin loses its drug dealer 'money' credentials now theres one less place to use it for illicit purposes.

and

governments now see's bitcoin as a valued asset worth seizing.

all in the space of one week


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: Severian on October 09, 2013, 11:40:38 PM
One positive effect of this is that government agencies will now be forced to fully understand how bitcoin works, whether they want to or not.  That will help campaigners such as the Bitcoin Foundation in their efforts of educating governments.

+2.

Bitcoin itself is a viral idea. When someone with even a modicum of brains puts in the time to understand Bitcoin, they can't help but be swayed by it even if their opinion of Bitcoin  was negative previous to their understanding.

Bitcoin adoption will rise as more people in the banking sector and in the regulatory/enforcement world understand it and learn it. Many of them will still use it as a tool to sting the hapless mortals that are foolish enough to break the sacred laws of Holy Federal Church but as understanding of it grows, just being a Bitcoin user won't an immediate cause for suspicion anymore.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: Marbit on October 10, 2013, 12:37:35 AM
Government probably just converts it into fiat and puts it into they'r debt they have.
No but seriously, I don't think they can inpact us by that much, the only thing that could happen is that they have had theyr wakeupcall and, yeah you get it....
this imo. i don't think most in govt particularly care, or care for, bitcoin / digital currency generally. they just want to dump it for fiat. will probably auction it off and some lucky sob will make off like a bandit!!! in theory, unless dpr can prove the coins weren't received in commission of illegal activity, they could auction it off immediately.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: fattypig on October 10, 2013, 12:50:18 AM
Good, soon they will understand that Bitcoin is a good investment and after they have invested more then 10 million bitcoin, they announce that Bitcoin is legal to trade and bam, they earn more money!!!


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: knight22 on October 10, 2013, 02:42:45 AM
I feel thrilled because this is the cancer being injected  ;D


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: hulk on October 10, 2013, 03:13:34 AM
They are going to sell it, other then that, they got no real use of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: doof on October 10, 2013, 04:34:59 AM
The us would be better off buying BTC and getting ride of their fiat before it collapses.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: maursader on October 10, 2013, 06:02:29 AM
It'd be nice if they dumped it. Gives opportunity to others to buy BTC at a cheaper rate thanks to panic sales that would come afterward.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: ProfMac on October 10, 2013, 06:07:14 AM
Who's to say they didn't have large amounts before SR got busted? They could of been early miners easily.

LOL.  They could be Satoshi.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: crazynoggin on October 10, 2013, 06:40:43 AM
Well damn, the US government has more Bitcoin than me now (not that I have much at all).


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: 600watt on October 10, 2013, 10:25:37 AM
I bet that in a few years we will hear about the first scandals involving lost or stolen government bitcoins.  Wallet security is not a trivial task for a large organizations, and government agencies have a track record of data security blunders.      

One positive effect of this is that government agencies will now be forced to fully understand how bitcoin works, whether they want to or not.  That will help campaigners such as the Bitcoin Foundation in their efforts of educating governments.

indeed, there will be theft of government btc.
to edjucate government agency employees is a nice business idea.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: hashman on October 10, 2013, 11:10:33 AM
Guess what.. that guy with the hat and beard?  A fictional character.

Are you suggesting congressmen have been given private multisig keys? 


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: axus on October 10, 2013, 03:17:15 PM
Same thing police do with other confiscated property, use it to buy new cars.  Since it's the FBI, they'd probably use it for anonymous online payments while investigating drugs/porn/whatever.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: knight22 on October 10, 2013, 03:32:34 PM
Same thing police do with other confiscated property, use it to buy new cars.  Since it's the FBI, they'd probably use it for anonymous online payments while investigating drugs/porn/whatever.

Anonymous payments? lol I'm not so sure about that!

https://blockchain.info/address/1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: Marbit on October 10, 2013, 04:57:49 PM
they'd never put it on an exchange, though... some lucky guy will win the auction for pennies on the dollar. such an opportunity for the one who gets it. where do they announce forfeiture auctions?!?!  :)


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: PrintMule on October 10, 2013, 05:07:20 PM
They will probably launder it somehow, otherwise it's quite useless, when everyone knows their btc address.

On another note - awesome caricature in the OP :)


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: mises on October 10, 2013, 07:23:17 PM
nice comic. lol unlike other editorial comics i understood this one pretty fast.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: bitcon on October 10, 2013, 10:48:34 PM
what they will do is tumble the coins they have then use them for drug purchase on other darknet sites to build cases against dealers. they were most likely doing this before SR
seizure, except now they get to do it for free.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: balanghai on October 10, 2013, 10:55:53 PM
They can easily use their server farms to mine bitcoins. We couldn't tell how deep they are mining already.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: pengcqu on October 12, 2013, 03:14:07 PM
It's nice.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: Wink on October 13, 2013, 07:07:04 AM
Perhaps the US will just hold on to the BTC as a hedge against its own fiat currency going down the toilet. #irony


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: DobZombie on October 13, 2013, 10:36:10 AM
I hope the government just deletes them.

Makes my coins 0.25% worth more  ;D


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: cbeast on October 13, 2013, 11:12:00 AM
They will probably end up in a DEA auction and sold for pennies on the dollar.


Title: Re: Governments now own BTC
Post by: limit2718 on October 14, 2013, 02:49:12 AM
i feel uneasy.