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Title: A possible scam
Post by: coin.cat on October 10, 2013, 04:50:03 PM
Today I read a story of a seller which found himself in the middle of a scam.

Apparently the scammer arranged a purchase of btc and the paying method was a bank transfer. Then the scammer "sold" some good to an innocent victim and requested a payment to the account of the btc seller. The scammer never sent the good to the innocent victim. The btc seller sent the btc to the scammer after receiving the payment. The innocent victim never received the good and wanted his money back ... from the btc seller.


How can a seller protect himself from this situation?



Title: Re: A possible scam
Post by: dddbtc on October 10, 2013, 05:07:08 PM
Today I read a story of a seller which found himself in the middle of a scam.

Apparently the scammer arranged a purchase of btc and the paying method was a bank transfer. Then the scammer "sold" some good to an innocent victim and requested a payment to the account of the btc seller. The scammer never sent the good to the innocent victim. The btc seller sent the btc to the scammer after receiving the payment. The innocent victim never received the good and wanted his money back ... from the btc seller.


How can a seller protect himself from this situation?



If this involves you at all, or your friend, or had anything to do with this forum; post a thread in the scam accusation subforum and include all correspondence with all parties, TxID's , and any other relevant information.  You will get a lot of good hindsight advice from fellow members, and the offending party will likely receive a scammer tag.


Title: Re: A possible scam
Post by: Magazine on October 10, 2013, 05:11:00 PM
This used to happen when I sold MMORPG goods, not as much due to me selling on PlayerAuctions so it wasn't possible to do it to me but it happened to other sellers I knew and it normally resulted in a attempted chargeback.


Title: Re: A possible scam
Post by: escrow.ms on October 10, 2013, 05:40:10 PM
Well in this kind of case, it's purely "Innocent buyer's" fault.
If he makes any dispute in bank or takes some legal action, BTC seller can always show that scammers chat logs, deal info, transactions etc.

He can defend himself by saying he didn't knew "scammer" paid him from other persons account.
and it was that "innocent buyers" responsibility to check info of "scammy seller" before making payment.

If funds were stolen then i can understand but if "innocent buyer" paid him upfront and took risk of getting scammed then it's his fault.

I mean if someone paid 100 bucks to a guy and told him to buy a beer from shop, but if that guy uses his 100 bucks on something else and does scam.
He can't blame shopkeeper and ask his money back.