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Title: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: virendarnagpal on March 09, 2018, 07:50:17 AM
Birth of  bitcoin was a big revolution.  Convenience of it's usage ; anonymity of transactions; breaking international boundaries made it popular and attracted crowds. 
When demand grew the price started rising with the growth of the demand.  As the supply side could not meet the demand pressure resulting in very high price rise.
Seeing profits; gains ; popularity attracted many other people to mine other alternate crypto currency coins which attracted people with lesser resources who were unable to buy bitcoin due to it's high prices.  But the alternate currency ICOs were finding it difficult to sell their coins so they started advertising through this platform in the form of signature campaign and other social media like face book ; twitter etc.  They started paying some rewards to the persons working for them on social media and wearing their signature. 
Seeing this many new people entered in the market and earned good amount of money by supporting ICOs. 
Now on getting the money from bounties they as per their primary wish to be owner of bitcoin started selling coins received and investing the money so earned to buy bitcoin and ultimately the price of bitcoin increased.  But due to selling pressure by bounty earners on new ICOs the price of those coins falls on the earth. 
So we can see that the bitcoin  due to which alt coins came into existence, the same altcoins are supporting the growth of bitcoin so I think both are supporting each other.
Above are my views I seek more guidance. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Moneypham5 on March 09, 2018, 08:22:14 AM
There are a lot of Exchange services from Bitcoin to your altcoin type very fast, but take a look at the transaction costs and exchange rates, most of the exchange rates will not be good and very high transaction fees, up to 0.5%. The Binance floor fee is only 0.1%. Always find out what kind of altcoin you want to invest and analyze its potential through the altcoin home page, community, white paper, forum, money market, etc. Do not invest in emotions or fears.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Twinscoin2017 on March 09, 2018, 08:37:27 AM
 I believe that altcoin and bitcoin is really connected. Becuase if we take a look at the price of both bitcoin and altcoin. If the bitcoin fall down the price of all altcoin is really affected and it is also slowly droping. Because i see that some altcoin well really use bitcoin for an exchange. So then if the bitcoin fall the altcoin is also loss its shine. Maybe the altcoin is a bitcoin branches and if bitcoin die all altcoin is also died.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Ronaldcoin2017 on March 09, 2018, 08:43:16 AM
I believe that altcoin and bitcoin is really connected. Becuase if we take a look at the price of both bitcoin and altcoin. If the bitcoin fall down the price of all altcoin is really affected and it is also slowly droping. Because i see that some altcoin well really use bitcoin for an exchange. So then if the bitcoin fall the altcoin is also loss its shine. Maybe the altcoin is a bitcoin branches and if bitcoin die all altcoin is also died.
Yes i strongly agree on that the bitcoin is maybe the mainstream on the crypto feild and if it will lost some other crypto coin will also lost. I think altcoin is made for bitcoin. I see that both coin is really supporting each other and we don't have to compare it because we can do gaining on both coin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: serizawax on March 09, 2018, 08:49:03 AM
Actually I am very sorry for people who are willing to buy a lot of coins from ICO, but in reality the price of coins they buy is never worth high, I also have friends who have bought coins on one ICO project, but almost 1 year more, the price of the coin is still far of hope.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: aoluain on March 09, 2018, 09:15:44 AM
yes they are interlinked to a degree.

Every trading exchange pairs all the alt coins to BTC so
every time you trade a coin it is traded to BTC and back
out of BTC into whatever other coin you want.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: felipe04 on March 09, 2018, 07:27:37 PM
yes they help each other and best example of it are in different exchanger because we can exchange bitcoin to altcoins so we make some transaction in the both coins

You can see also the price of any digital currency drops following by bitcoin but after that they follow bitcoin to when it get really high

I think even they not help each other company still all are worth it


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: GoldnOil on March 09, 2018, 08:04:18 PM
I believe that altcoin and bitcoin is really connected. Becuase if we take a look at the price of both bitcoin and altcoin. If the bitcoin fall down the price of all altcoin is really affected and it is also slowly droping. Because i see that some altcoin well really use bitcoin for an exchange. So then if the bitcoin fall the altcoin is also loss its shine. Maybe the altcoin is a bitcoin branches and if bitcoin die all altcoin is also died.

I agree with your statement.  Right now as the price of Bitcoin fall so does all the ALT prices.  I am of the view that all ALT coins and BTC should be paired again the 8 major pairs like USD, JPY, GPB, EUR and people in their respective country allowed to buy them officially and declaring them...

just one thing that when Bitcoin rises it takes the ALT Coin prices also up with it and lot of us made a good money on ALT coins....   Verge XVG is a good example...


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: hodlftw on March 09, 2018, 08:09:31 PM
Everything in this world is inter-connected in some way or another but here you have a direct relationship between the two. Sometimes I feel like there is an inverse-relationship and sometimes I feel like there is no relationship between the two. Tough for me to pinpoint, and I wonder if that has to do with the ever changing market dynamics. You are always going to have a change in market partcipants, # of projects being developed, market caps, btc dominance, and a myriad of other variables. These variables make it quite complex and that is why I feel for the average trader you will pretty much always be playing a guessing game, and that is why I stick to hodl.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: JohnHero on March 09, 2018, 08:10:52 PM
When altcoins are going down, Bitcoin is holding pretty nicely. Because people are selling they alts for Bitcoin, most of the time.
Anyone, most of the market goes down...


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Dodoymabs on March 09, 2018, 08:20:30 PM
Everything in this world is inter-connected in some way or another but here you have a direct relationship between the two. Sometimes I feel like there is an inverse-relationship and sometimes I feel like there is no relationship between the two. Tough for me to pinpoint, and I wonder if that has to do with the ever changing market dynamics. You are always going to have a change in market partcipants, # of projects being developed, market caps, btc dominance, and a myriad of other variables. These variables make it quite complex and that is why I feel for the average trader you will pretty much always be playing a guessing game, and that is why I stick to hodl.
Hodl is the one way to help crypto assets to increase its price and sooner we will earn with our sacrifices. It's not that easy to hodl a coin because we will be probably facing problem of its ups and downs. Those who have a strong faith will be rewarded with good amount of earnings. Also, bitcoin and altcoin are connected with each other because they are all crypto which has the same characteristics.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: mickeybuddy27 on March 09, 2018, 08:44:40 PM
I believe that altcoin and bitcoin is really connected. Becuase if we take a look at the price of both bitcoin and altcoin. If the bitcoin fall down the price of all altcoin is really affected and it is also slowly droping. Because i see that some altcoin well really use bitcoin for an exchange. So then if the bitcoin fall the altcoin is also loss its shine. Maybe the altcoin is a bitcoin branches and if bitcoin die all altcoin is also died.
Yes i strongly agree on that the bitcoin is maybe the mainstream on the crypto feild and if it will lost some other crypto coin will also lost. I think altcoin is made for bitcoin. I see that both coin is really supporting each other and we don't have to compare it because we can do gaining on both coin.
I can say that they supporting each other. Every altcoin are exchanges to bitcoin that makes bitcoin to have low price as altcoin drops also but I notice that when ethereum pump bitcoin drops. It is fast to trade when altcoin is directly exchange to bitcoin because it is less transaction fees.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Walkenman on March 09, 2018, 08:55:22 PM
It seems to me that they are connected, you can observe that when bitcoin falls, all the altcoins swiftly pursue it. But this is normal, it would be much stranger if it were not.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Seriousbizz on March 14, 2018, 01:21:06 PM
As at now the growth of altcoins depends greatly on the growth of bitcoin. If bitcoin goes down, they all do, when bitcoin goes up they all do. Anyone who wishes for their altcoins to grow should also support the growth of bitcoin because that is how altcoins also grow


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: xuan87 on March 14, 2018, 01:27:39 PM
I think yes both Bitcoin and altcoin need each other to survive, Bitcoin usually being trade with alt coins, trading is the source of Bitcoin value, a lot of Bitcoin transaction coming from trading, and alt coins also give a lot investors choice and feature to used, so it make people keep on interesting with crypto currencies


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: 12tribes on March 14, 2018, 01:41:18 PM
The bitcoin certainly rules the market and to a large extent determines the prices of the alternative coins.... However the volume of Ethereum in market seems to be unaffected by the crash in bitcoin price. The same goes for litecoin and other profit making coins at the market. So the bitcoin needs the altcoins and the altcoins  need the bitcoins for optimal performance on the floor.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: zenrol28 on March 14, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
All altcoins want to prove that they're better than bitcoin. Is that supportive? Altcoins are competing to overthrown bitcoin. For bounty hunters / ICO early investors, altcoins are source of earning more bitcoins without the hassle of mining / trading. But of course there's always risks involved, especially when these altcoin's value were just dump to the ground. Just like bitconnect for one. And there are more out there so be cautious.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Pursuer on March 14, 2018, 01:55:28 PM
Seeing this many new people entered in the market and earned good amount of money by supporting ICOs. 

this is the problem right in the middle of your comment!
and I don't know how, you knowing this already, are using the words "supporting" each other!!!

the problem is that these days all the newcomers are only interested in making money from cryptocurrencies. they see bitcoin and think they have missed out, then they also see the advertisement of all these useless tokens which are promising them big returns so they start pouring their money in their pockets. in the end we end up with a bloated altcoin market which is in a gigantic bubble and its burst is actually taking bitcoin down a little too!


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: dedens212 on March 14, 2018, 02:00:08 PM
I agree with you,  i think there are many links between Bitcoin and Alt coin, as you mentioned that as demand grows prices start to rise, with so much demand for Bitcoin if not offset by its products then the price will soar. so I think Bitcoin and Alt coin support each other.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Reid on March 14, 2018, 02:04:37 PM
And that should not be the case.
This iCO's should have been supported until last if the project is real and there is a product.
True we all want bitcoin, it is safer that way than staying with an altcoin so they sell it for good. But how can this projects meet the goals that they want if they are losing investors just because of the dump of the bounty hunters.

Strong hands are needed and not those I have heard "they need to feed their family".

If that is the only purpose then no ICO will be successful unless there is a group of investor that will wait for a long time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Usafstar on March 14, 2018, 05:06:33 PM
Both are the internet based currencies which is using for online uses and offline too bitcoin and the alternative coins supported each other because when the market is red then both the currencies affected it is true that bitcoin is fully supporting altcoin and when the bitcoin price become fall then the people also lose hope for the other crypto and the panic in the crypto market so i hope that the bitcoin will more stronger in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: kokobaba880 on March 14, 2018, 05:10:36 PM
Bitcoin affect the altcoin like the people would like to use these all and those who are using bitcoin they are also participating the new ICO and they also investing in the crypto so if the bitcoin price become fall the altcoins buying some time slow with this while sometime the alts price become good many users have shifted to the altcoin as well it is true that both of the crypto have the same usage and these will grow more in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Xester on March 14, 2018, 05:16:23 PM
Bitcoin affect the altcoin like the people would like to use these all and those who are using bitcoin they are also participating the new ICO and they also investing in the crypto so if the bitcoin price become fall the altcoins buying some time slow with this while sometime the alts price become good many users have shifted to the altcoin as well it is true that both of the crypto have the same usage and these will grow more in the future.

Altcoins are like the off spring of bitcoin.  When bitcoin was launched and become successful as how the creator of it wanted to be, different alternative cryptos emerges.  Many succeeds and on the path of bitcoin while others are created like a scam because after investing on it, some closes and disappear.  All its price are based on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: doaremon on March 14, 2018, 05:18:15 PM
Ethereum is another up coming crypto currency. We all know that Bitcoin is the mother of all crypto currency. But after Bitcoin we all take ethereum as second. Day by day like Bitcoin the price of ethereum is also increasing. Many of the economist already announced that ethereum is like the backup of bitcoin. They thought that if for any reason Bitcoin fails to meet the demand of people then ethereum will meet the blank spot. Day by day llime Bitcoin, ethereum is also becoming famous. To me in future ethereum will also become a new source of crypto currency but it won't take over Bitcoin. Because Bitcoin is in the platform for a long long period of time. But ethereum is almost new to this platform. But I would rather call it as the 2nd best crypto currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Fujiati on March 14, 2018, 05:51:11 PM
Both are the internet based currencies which is using for online uses and offline too bitcoin and the alternative coins supported each other because when the market is red then both the currencies affected it is true that bitcoin is fully supporting altcoin and when the bitcoin price become fall then the people also lose hope for the other crypto and the panic in the crypto market so i hope that the bitcoin will more stronger in the future.

bitcoin and altcoin have a close relationship because if the bitcoin price decreases it will affect the price of altcoin. if the bitcoin price drops then altcoin will also fall, they are mutual and will not be separated. there will be no stand-alone altcoin, if both experience a price drop then the investor will rush to buy it to trade and invest.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: p i e c e on March 16, 2018, 05:26:49 PM
Bitcoin affect the altcoin like the people would like to use these all and those who are using bitcoin they are also participating the new ICO and they also investing in the crypto so if the bitcoin price become fall the altcoins buying some time slow with this while sometime the alts price become good many users have shifted to the altcoin as well it is true that both of the crypto have the same usage and these will grow more in the future.

If you look at the charts you will see that each time, when Bitcoin is going down, altcoins are falling as well. The same thing is going on when BTC is rising.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: senne on March 16, 2018, 05:52:13 PM
I don't about supporting each other but you can say that they have a connection and influence in the market. As, one should have noticed when bitcoin either rises or fall quickly altcoin are the worst affected. People tend to move from their altcoin to bitcoin in gain of more profits which further interconnects the rise and fall of altcoins.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Donceng on March 16, 2018, 06:24:56 PM
Birth of  bitcoin was a big revolution.  Convenience of it's usage ; anonymity of transactions; breaking international boundaries made it popular and attracted crowds. 
When demand grew the price started rising with the growth of the demand.  As the supply side could not meet the demand pressure resulting in very high price rise.
Seeing profits; gains ; popularity attracted many other people to mine other alternate crypto currency coins which attracted people with lesser resources who were unable to buy bitcoin due to it's high prices.  But the alternate currency ICOs were finding it difficult to sell their coins so they started advertising through this platform in the form of signature campaign and other social media like face book ; twitter etc.  They started paying some rewards to the persons working for them on social media and wearing their signature. 
Seeing this many new people entered in the market and earned good amount of money by supporting ICOs. 
Now on getting the money from bounties they as per their primary wish to be owner of bitcoin started selling coins received and investing the money so earned to buy bitcoin and ultimately the price of bitcoin increased.  But due to selling pressure by bounty earners on new ICOs the price of those coins falls on the earth. 
So we can see that the bitcoin  due to which alt coins came into existence, the same altcoins are supporting the growth of bitcoin so I think both are supporting each other.
Above are my views I seek more guidance. 
I see and read your argument, should the existence of both should be like that. The problem is always evolving everywhere, to lower its competitors, especially now that many new tokens have been created and in search of their consumers to compete in an unhealthy way.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: 13abyknight on March 16, 2018, 06:48:23 PM
The first and foremost cryptocurrency Bitcoin, paved way for innovation and creation of all the altcoins that exist today and thus have become inseparable entities. Fund raising for projects was shaped up into a new form which is known as the ICO today which has attracted a lot of investors at chances of raising a portfolio growth faster than that of stock market trading. All of this has seen cryptocurrencies stand where it is today, progressing quickly towards newer goals and Bitcoin's creator i.e Satoshi must be accredited for this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Englebabylove on March 16, 2018, 06:51:39 PM
Birth of  bitcoin was a big revolution.  Convenience of it's usage ; anonymity of transactions; breaking international boundaries made it popular and attracted crowds. 
When demand grew the price started rising with the growth of the demand.  As the supply side could not meet the demand pressure resulting in very high price rise.
Seeing profits; gains ; popularity attracted many other people to mine other alternate crypto currency coins which attracted people with lesser resources who were unable to buy bitcoin due to it's high prices.  But the alternate currency ICOs were finding it difficult to sell their coins so they started advertising through this platform in the form of signature campaign and other social media like face book ; twitter etc.  They started paying some rewards to the persons working for them on social media and wearing their signature. 
Seeing this many new people entered in the market and earned good amount of money by supporting ICOs. 
Now on getting the money from bounties they as per their primary wish to be owner of bitcoin started selling coins received and investing the money so earned to buy bitcoin and ultimately the price of bitcoin increased.  But due to selling pressure by bounty earners on new ICOs the price of those coins falls on the earth. 
So we can see that the bitcoin  due to which alt coins came into existence, the same altcoins are supporting the growth of bitcoin so I think both are supporting each other.
Above are my views I seek more guidance. 
I think yes, both bitcoin and altcoins are part of the cryptocurrency market. When one of them develops, it can promote the development of cryptocurrency markets, which is good for both sides.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Pistachiop on March 20, 2018, 01:50:52 PM
Now the price of altcoins depends greatly on the price of bitcoins so if anyone wants their favorite altcoin to do well in the market then they should support bitcoin as well because with the rise in the price in bitcoin the prices of the altcoins will increase too.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: ellabanana on March 20, 2018, 01:56:18 PM
Why do we need to compare the two coins? Why not have altcoin AND bitcoin. These coins are both promising and if you can notice, if one drops, the other coin will also do. So, they are not really competing to each other. But, if the time will come and Bitcoin will lose ita popularity and demand, well, there would be a great chance that etherium would take over.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoin; supporting each other?
Post by: Pistachiop on March 20, 2018, 03:02:06 PM
Now the price of altcoins depends greatly on the price of bitcoins so if anyone wants their favorite altcoin to do well in the market then they should support bitcoin as well because with the rise in the price in bitcoin the prices of the altcoins will increase too.