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Title: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 03:05:11 PM
I would like some tips on that...
Is there a easy way to control several rigs with three monitors?
If there is, how would that be done?

Thanks.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Detritus on July 22, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
I would like some tips on that...
Is there a easy way to control several rigs with three monitors?
If there is, how would that be done?

Thanks.

Most people run headless, with no monitors at all.

It sounds like you probably run windows. You'll probably need vga dummy plugs, and remote management software like tightvnc or teamviewer.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: xunker on July 22, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
I would like some tips on that...
Is there a easy way to control several rigs with three monitors?
If there is, how would that be done?

Thanks.

Many options:

(hardware)
KVM Switch.

(software)
VNC.
Remote Desktop.
SSH.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 03:25:18 PM
I run both, windows and linux.

I actually wanted to keep a 6 miners on 2 monitors, my idea was have a "desktop selection",
something like that. I would like to be able to change btw desktops without having to remote access
the miners...

A HDMI plug that enables me to connect several computers to it,
thanks guys.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: deslok on July 22, 2011, 03:27:28 PM
You want a kvm switch then check www.monoprice.com for one


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 03:29:12 PM
That's what I wanted.

Awesome.

Appreciate it ;D


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on July 22, 2011, 03:58:55 PM
i use tightvnc with 11.7 drivers. no need for dummy plugs.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: shotgun on July 22, 2011, 04:21:07 PM
why wouldn't you want to use remote administration software? wait.. that means you compute near your rigs? hmm, never understood why people don't put them in a server rack and shove them in the garage or closet, you can get a cheap used one for $100-150.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 04:24:12 PM
Ok, care to explain that shotgun?


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: shotgun on July 22, 2011, 05:16:03 PM
Ok, care to explain that shotgun?

Sure thing. Here's my method.

Install LinuxCoin to all boxes. On one box, or a separate box, install BitCoin Mining Proxy ( https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin-mining-proxy ), then setup all workers to proxy through the BTC Proxy. Now you never have to manually change pools. If you want to monitor the temps of the workers you run this via an ssh loop on your boxes:

Code:
#!/bin/bash
maxtemp="80"
running=true
while $running; do
    if [ "`aticonfig --odgt --adapter=0 | grep -o '[0-9][0-9].[0-9][0-9]' | sed 's/\.[0-9][0-9]//g'`" -gt "$maxtemp" ] ; then
        echo "TOO HOT, shutting down miner"
        pkill -9 phoenix.py
        running=false
    fi
done

If you have ssh-keys setup you don't have to enter passwords to run the temp monitor.

So now your boxes are easy to admin remotely and you don't have to have anything other than a laptop or gaming box to admin them as needed. So, then you put them in a server rack and put the server rack in your garage. Like this:

https://i.imgur.com/vzGAd.jpg

Ultra40 #1 (2x 6870 (MSI and ASUS))
Ultra40 #2 (2x 6870 (MSI and ASUS))
Quad0 box (Currently 2x6950 MSI, room for two more 5770 single slot versions). Running a Sapphire Pure-Black MB with 4xPCIe slots.
Sun X4600-M2 not running
Sun X2100 #1 not running but maybe it will provide H/A for the next box...
Sun X2100 #2 running BTC-Mining-Proxy, apache/mysql, monitoring apps
Tres0 (2x 6870 MSI Hawk, 1x XFX 5770) room for one more single slot 5770. Running a Sapphire Pure-Black MB with 4xPCIe slots.
Tres1 (2x 6870 MSI Hawk, 1x XFX 5770) room for one more single slot 5770. Running a Sapphire Pure-Black MB with 4xPCIe slots.
APC-SmartUPS-1500VA

 I'm planning on removing the ultra40 boxes and replacing them with duplicates of the custom builds (the tres0 and tres1 boxes). And of course I'll be removing the X4600M2 box since it's taking up space and I'm not utilizing it... so that and the rest of the empty space will be filled with more boxes like the tres0.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 05:19:58 PM
Where did you buy the rack?
And have you had any sort of overheating problems with it?

Thanks.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: shotgun on July 22, 2011, 05:41:39 PM
Where did you buy the rack?
And have you had any sort of overheating problems with it?

Thanks.

I bought the rack from Ray at http://www.rhfive.com - he's about an hour drive from me so I just drove on down and picked up the rack and drove it home. I bought the rack and the Sun servers from him before I started mining. The rack was $200, and he has a bunch of them. I've seen other racks on craigslist for $100 and $150 if you're not into the super awesome Sun Microsystems version. Overheating has not been an issue as all of the miners have multiple 120mm case fans running full blast. My cards are all running 62-68C at the moment.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 06:10:45 PM
How much does that thing weight?


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: shotgun on July 22, 2011, 08:32:53 PM
How much does that thing weight?

The rack without any equipment is about 100lbs or maybe 125lb. It has wheels on it that can be removed. I can move it around with it fully loaded up.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
It's gonna be a pain to ship one of those...
I'm gonna have to buy locally -.-'


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: deslok on July 22, 2011, 09:03:46 PM
It's gonna be a pain to ship one of those...
I'm gonna have to buy locally -.-'

even if you can't find a rack he is correct about the ability to use something like tight VNC to avoid needing the KVM. alternativly to the rack it is possible to build your own, some metal or plastic collapsable shelving would do fine caseless or not(although remember to insulate things electrically with something if your caseless on a metal rack)
one of these with some boxfans attached to one side would do nicely
http://www.harborfreight.com/five-tier-bolt-free-shelving-unit-97476.html


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 09:14:14 PM
I was actually looking into something like this.

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v1/270650755/Computer_Table_Design_YT_203_.jpg

But custom designed to have slots for seven pcs and three monitors...

But I admit the rack is a way, WAY better idea.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: deslok on July 22, 2011, 09:18:39 PM
get that rack and just put one monitor keyboard and mouse on a pedistal a few feet away so it dosen't obstruct airflow kvm's are os agnostic so you can have windows and linux share the same equipment.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 09:24:40 PM
I'm already looking into it, my local retailer is looking into some servers...
He found a few, soon enough I'm gonna have the prices and relay to you guys
so you can toss your ideas at it.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: shotgun on July 22, 2011, 10:04:35 PM
I'm already looking into it, my local retailer is looking into some servers...
He found a few, soon enough I'm gonna have the prices and relay to you guys
so you can toss your ideas at it.

In regard to servers - you can build the same ones I have in my rack. If you want the newegg parts list let me know.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 10:17:41 PM
They don't ship worldwide, and even if they did... Taxes would eat me alive =/

I have to buy locally, but sure, shoot :D
Always good to have some insight into good hardware.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: deslok on July 22, 2011, 10:20:30 PM
what country are you in(i just realised i linked you to a us only store myself)


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 10:28:56 PM
Brazil atm, don't expect anything good here.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: deslok on July 22, 2011, 10:34:18 PM
i suppose one of us in the us could always ship you things but you're right it would cost a ton! :P


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 22, 2011, 11:28:41 PM
Yeah, about a thousand dollars or so, maybe more..
It's not worth it.

If anyone living closer can ship one to me I would appreciate it xD


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: BkkCoins on July 23, 2011, 02:56:17 AM
Take a look through the "Pictures of your Rig (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=7216.0)" thread. As far as I'm concerned any money spent on fancy boxes and desks is money not spent on GPU cards - and hence, wasted.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: shotgun on July 23, 2011, 04:07:02 AM
Take a look through the "Pictures of your Rig (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=7216.0)" thread. As far as I'm concerned any money spent on fancy boxes and desks is money not spent on GPU cards - and hence, wasted.

That assumes everyone has the same values and purpose. The guys running 42 cards from one rig in their mom's basement with 6 different fans from homedepot because they're 17 years old and don't know dick about distributed computing or clusters, well those are one type of miner. There are others that approach it professionally and have experience in datacenters and HPC/clustering - those are the guys that don't consider infrastructure a waste of money.

Cost is relative. Personally I don't mind dropping several hundred on a managed switch for my rack because I can watch port statistics and have multiple VLANs, but then there are other miners that cobble together a switch and router form a yard sale. It all depends on what you want out of your infrastructure and how much you are willing to invest in quality.

Putting all your money into GPUs is one thing but spending it all at the expense of having a stable and reliable infrastructure is stupid.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Detritus on July 23, 2011, 04:43:17 AM
I didn't build a fancy case because I thought it was cool,

I built because I needed a way mount a lot of equipment in a small space and vent it outside...

I'm saving a significant amount of money on AC by doing so, and my living room is more than 15F cooler.


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: shotgun on July 23, 2011, 04:51:09 AM
I didn't build a fancy case because I thought it was cool,

I built because I needed a way mount a lot of equipment in a small space and vent it outside...

I'm saving a significant amount of money on AC by doing so, and my living room is more than 15F cooler.


This is the difference - I do not have my 16 GPUs in my living room, so my circumstances are different and thus require a server rack. If I were keeping my gear in my living room I would also go open-air. :)


Title: Re: Three monitors, seven miners. How?
Post by: Niann on July 23, 2011, 03:39:34 PM
I would have to agree with shotgun on that....
If you can work something that will last longer and is way more organized for a couple hundred bucks more...

Anyways, I already worked my way on that thread, all sorts of nice stuff there.
But I suppose I will stick to the idea of a rack.
Unless someone else has a better idea ;D

Cheers.