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Title: Personhood and Belief
Post by: CryptoFae on March 10, 2018, 08:41:29 AM
We don't use smartphones from ten years ago (or phones from ten years ago, for that matter), but practice beliefs from 500 years ago. Humans are organic machines; that function perfectly, when we learn how to take care of ourselves and each other -  it's #time for a system upgrade people - right?


Title: Re: Personhood and Belief
Post by: sp564 on March 10, 2018, 08:48:46 AM
I think you are right in many respects, but it is also important to remember that belief systems are incredibly complex, and cannot be as easily evaluated, discarded, or upgraded as a purchasable commodity. To really get to grips with a belief system can take years, and many of them are not quite what they look like on the surface. You are right that we need to learn how to take care of ourselves and each other, but how to do that is not a simple question and does not have straightforward answers. Who should we take care of - just our immediate circle or also those we may not know but whom we could easily help? What constitutes helping ourselves -- should we spend time in meditation and learning, or should we go out and develop experience in the world? What about trade-offs, when taking care of ourselves means spending less time taking care of others? Or perhaps, when taking care of others means taking care of ourselves, even when we might not want to face the fact of our own inadequacy?

There is a lot of arcane thought no longer relevant to us in many traditional belief systems, but there is also a reason that these ideas get discussed thousands of years later. Some aspects of the human condition are universal through time and different spaces, but it may take a long time to begin to appreciate and understand the connections and relevance of ancient ideas to modern life. I think what is really needed is an upgrade in our ability to discern what is relevant and what is good, and to separate these insights from all the debris around them.


Title: Re: Personhood and Belief
Post by: koalapizzakite on March 10, 2018, 09:34:05 AM
I like being a human, you can upgrade if you want but I like feeling things, thinking about things and believing in things.
Its the only reason i got up this morning.


Title: Re: Personhood and Belief
Post by: Separate_Bass on July 29, 2018, 12:10:38 AM
We don't use smartphones from ten years ago (or phones from ten years ago, for that matter), but practice beliefs from 500 years ago. Humans are organic machines; that function perfectly, when we learn how to take care of ourselves and each other -  it's #time for a system upgrade people - right?
If each person respects himself and others, loves his family and friends. Live by the principle: treat others just as you want them to treat you. If we think before we talk. If we try to love all life. If we get rid of the debris in our head. We will be happy and calm. Religions teach the same thing. If people do not distort this world, then we do not need a reboot.


Title: Re: Personhood and Belief
Post by: outsider25 on July 29, 2018, 06:07:49 AM
Yes, it seems right now, the physical ability and ability of the human brain needs to be improved again, otherwise we will be defeated by electrical technology, for example robots. Smartphones and computers are made by humans, but why intelligence smartphones and computers are far above humans.