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im sure there are big country trying to destroy bitcoin my be usa or china what can we do to make bitcoin real eco system

The crypto currency ecosystem is already an existing thing in the digital world. And Bitcoin is the reigning crypto currency in this system. I wouldn’t say that the U.S. or even China are trying to destroy Bitcoin in a literal sense. They are just coming up with ways on how to manipulate the movement of BTC in the market so that they could have the upper hand. And all of the crash that’s been happening and the news that’s been coming out are part of the strategy to manipulate BTC.

Although there are big countries trying to destroy bitcoin but I'm sure it will be hard to do, because bitcoin is not centered in a country, bitcoin is spread all over the world and decentralized.

there are many parties trying to make bitcoin down.
they can buy much bitcoin, and dump it like crazy. they don't care if they sell lower than the price.
they only want bitcoin fall.

Bitcoin is an ecosystem. An automated ecosystem. In case you did not know.

I think that they are not trying to destroy Bitcoin, but want to manipulate Bitcoin. Many times the news is that the government has let go of it, causing panic and allowing people to sell Bitcoin. Of course, they can use Bitcoin in various ways.

Governments is not foolish enough to destroy bitcoin. They are just trying to control it. In China, they will release their own crypto. Crypto is indispensable trend.

It's difficult, although btc is decentralized when the government labeles it an asset you are within the realm of the government box. You gotta play by house rules. I guess in a way it becomes centralized with a very powerful overlord. Perhaps this will stop the whales from manipulating it if they in fact are (they probably are, those bastards look at pennies of movement as hundreds of thousands of dollars) whether new regulation will allow btc to grow or crush it remains to be seen. Don't think btc will make u rich cause we just don't know

nothing no one no country can destroy it!

sorry i didnt think btc is real ecosystem yes it's tradable but u cant buy any thing u want by bitcoin. u need to sell bitcoin and use usd to buy ur food and ..... bitcoin have 2 big problems
1 technically : u cant use it as daily currency because of very low tx/s can handle by bitcoin blockchain
2- acceptance in merchants and stores all over the world
the q is who is trying to solve this problems??

What we can do to conserve bitcoin and make it spread wider is by -

• Know completely what bitcoin actually is.
• Research each and every single thing related to bitcoin
• Believe in bitcoin.
• Support it by HODLing it.

After you do the above then follow these-

• Spread awareness among people about bitcoin.
• Clear misconceptions about bitcoin.

What this will do is broaden the narrow-minded thinking of people towards bitcoin due to lack of cryptocurrency knowledge.
You can learn literally everything about bitcoin through this forum, all you have to do is ask!

the vain efforts of a country to destroy bitcoin, remember bitcoin is not like a bank that can be blocked or closed by the government.
every investor or bitcoin holder, is the bitcoin bank itself .. it is impossible to deter everyone in the world from investing.
If any country wants to destroy bitcoin, then catch one by one bitcoin users around in the world  ;D

lols, if there is a problem with the ecosystem perhaps developer is finding a way to reduce it. As for the players on crypto, we are all player playing on it, but sometimes we are just pawns.

There is nothing like this if you really see rationally. This is the market sentiments which is creating such a havoc in the price of btc. BTC was just overbought considerably when it went over to 20k. People were buying it like idiots and that was the time when it became a really hot issue of the world which was when the bad news began to roll in. Now most of the countries are not clear with their regulations regarding it so this kind of situation is bound to happen as people want to enter the market but are just unable to do so.

I am not totally agree with this type of topic! I don't think that Usa and China enemy of of bitcoin and they want to destroy bitcoin! they only want to use that manipulate I think.

It's not the US nor China who want to destroy cryptocurrencies. Most governments recognise the advantages of cryptocurrencies and they all want to profit. That's why the G20 will discuss cryptocurrencies. This will result in worldwide regulations and that could mean taxed transactions and cryptocurrencies will no longer be decentralized.

In my view no country has decided that destroying bitcoin is really needed yet, there will come a point in the future when we amass too much power and then the government has to step in to ensure that we're in check. Of course, that's going to happen at some point, but we haven't caused too much disruption of the status quo to make that come to fruition yet.

Though there will be a day where we're regulated the shit out of, who knows when though!

There is no centralized cryptocurrency. If a currency is centralized, that's not cryptocurrency anymore. Cryptocurrencies must be decentralized.

Well, why they should try to destroy Bitcoin? We all know ( and also they know it ) that is impossible to ban completely Bitcoin, so what's the scope to try to ban it? You can ban it in a country, but the people can always exchange Bitcoin online, with VPN and in other countries.. If they ban Bitcoin, they are just trying to gain some time to understand bette btc and understand how to gain better from it.

What fuck are you on about? Your opinion clearly doesn't matter here unless backed up by proof. What you think definitely is not going to be true. Countries have a lot more shit to handle they don't give a fuck about bitcoin if you didn't know. They just don't want their people to be scammed by using bitcoin, not because bitcoin is a ponzi but people are stupid and it's hard to find traces of the scammer when you use bitcoin.

Exactly its decentralization makes it more strong thats why It still remain and exist. Even they are a huge and powerful country they cant destroy bitcoin easily. Bitcoin was spread all over the world, means many country using it and they wont let it happen. How did you say so that usa and china will be the on who will destroy the bitcoin? Do you have any proof about it?

They are not playing, they just want bitcoin price falling.
the whales can control the price of bitcoin, if they buy or sell it in a large of amounts.

Many countries do not like Bitcoin because of its anonymity and decentralization, which will replace the bank and make it less valuable. And the economy will not be controlled by the state, which makes them feel very dangerous.

I don't think they want to destroy bitcoin, they want to take control bitcoin and other cryptocurrency

No one is playing with us and the crypto market except the whales and the media (experts in creating FUD). Governments want the development of blockchain technology and the crypto world, all they need is for the crypto market and exchanges to get regulated, so that the can stop the illegal activities and terrorist funding. The whole FUD is usually created by media saying about crypto ban, even when no such things occurred. Governments want development rather than ban.

US is also taking actions to stop illegal activities and ponzi schemes and not really taking any action against cryptos or banning them. People need to understand this.

there will be no country that can destroy bitcoin because cryptocurrency has now become a very big and powerful community ..

I actually think the big countries like USA are trying to bring in regulation so that they gain control of cryptos (centralized ), but in the case of China,they are afraid of loosing their financial power even political power. In all these efforts they have made,so far ,Bitcoin has gotten a wider community to wage this influences from these big countries and i believe  cryptos has finally come to stay.

The fact that Bitcoin is banned by the US and Chinese governments indicates that the governments of developed nations recognize that the cryptocurrencies are very potent and fear that it will affect the nation's economy and currency. So that they have banned the trading of Bitcoin to avoid that happen :))))

I think China is trying to destroy BTC!

The United States may hold a certain number of BTC, while China may not have BTC, so the BTC transaction is prohibited in China!

I think it's not a country but a group of wealthy people with their hands in banking and money printing. Imagine what would happen if 20% of people in the world started to use decentralized currency on a daily basis. That would mean 20% less money from the banking sector, no more credits, no more fees, no more invigilation, less money from taxes, higher inflation... That's why smart governments want to make cryptos centralized so that they can remain in control. Stupid governments are showing their weak hand by trying to ban it.

If you can't support your accusation, your life can be at risk. No one knows who is playing with us or with the market but there's really something behind of what's happening especially with the dip. Before I don't know the last dip that we've been through and it's because of the Mt. Gox trustee, thanks to him. But about the destruction of bitcoin? I don't know who they are.

We can't blame them, even though they are considered to be the most influential country today but it wont make crypto into dead. Still a lot of countries keep believing and supporting the community. We can make crypto grow without them and not get mad with them cause someday they will come back into crypto.

In the bitcoin world there are many countries that agree and some do not agree with bitcoin, until now China often make rules and prohibitions about bitcoin in the country, but it is not enough to destroy bitcoin.

I think bitcoin are well known all over the world but not all countries supported bitcoin, maybe some country want to destroy it maybe because it affects to their economy and to their world of investment and stocks.

i think because of the popularity of bitcoin world wide
there are large companies and institution that are manipulating the market

they do it by making news about it and it affects those people who reads the news
and they are being manipulated because of that

They can try but ultimately to no avail. They have to shut down the internet to stop bitcoin which I don't think is feasible. What we can do to actively increase the value (not the price) of bitcoin is adopt it. Start accepting bitcoin in your business and services. Make your comrades aware of this beautiful tech (shilling) and spread the word. Also, you can run a full node 😊

I think the problem is not good. But it must be underlined also that a country will not be able to destroy Bitcoin because Bitcoin is not concentrated in a country only. Maybe they will not destroy the BTC but manipulate it and try to control it because in the news they will make their own crypto.

I dont think they're trying to destroy the whole crypto space but instead trying to make profit from it they want to be the top of crypto currencies to make most out of it that's why they're manipulating by regulating it. There's even a discussion about what should they do in crypto in G20 summit, so i guess they'll be regulating it and taxing it.

Many have attempted to break the bitcoin but they all failed and bitcoin became even more popular. Bitcoin is Bitcoin and whatever degradation they cannot destroy it. The time will come bitcoin value will increase and become more popular.

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Some investors play the game. They want to shake the crypto exchange markets in order to the holders bought Bitcoin on the high levels (about $13K) will sell those coins now. They are not connected to the certain country. They just want to buy or re-buy Bitcoin on the low levels (about $5-6K).

Some countries want to destroy bitcoin but there are also some countries which only want is to take over and manipulate bitcoin and the cryptoworld. They want to manipulate it so they can trace activities and transactions done it cryptos and to implement taxes to people who uses and earn moneys in cryptos. It would be easy for them to control and totally ban people they think are doing illegal activities.

That’s the main adavantage that bitcoin has. Being anonymous and decentralized gives bitcoin the upper hand. The government cannot control the crypto world even if they want to, cause bitcoins and other altcoins are held by the people all over the world and not just by some major investors or some group of people. Moreover bitcoin can be banned, but it can never be stopped as its transactions cannot be tracked and the receivers and senders information and purpose can never be known. Decentralization provides complete security and privacy of transactions.

I don't think there is a single country that is doing all it can to discredit Bitcoin. The United States of America may not be embracing Bitcoin fully but it is not that inimical to it. China is more aggressive in suppressing the growth of Bitcoin. We can still remember how their crack down on crypto exchanges and ICOs caused a big deal of negative movement to Bitcoin and the rest of the cryptocurrencies. I think the reason for this is not just one or two or three. There are compounded reasons for this dip in value for sure.

Whales maybe. Trying to drive the price down, then they buy in large quantities which will drive the price up and then they can sell at a higher profit margin. This is just speculation on my part though and I do not expect anyone to take it at face value.

I think all of them are going to run out of bitcoins.
Now, just do not we really have people in my government who are holding it here.
Right now we just have to make money with bitcoin and while we still have to earn it as long as it's all too late.

I do not think China is forbidding bitcoin. Their people are finding ways to exploit bitcoin and use bitcoin services pretty much. That shows they are quietly supporting the crypto market because it is a potential market and it can make China's economy better.
That is why NEO is developing very well and NEO will dominate the market in the next few years.

True, though many people here in might say that it is decentralized and anonymous and cannot be controlled by the government, the fact is that small portion is controlled by government indirectly as one needs to follows the rules laid by one’s government whether they are against crypto currencies or in their favour.

Government can manipulate the prices and cause panic sell if the news of ban or illegal crypto currencies in released. And indeed bitcoin and other cryptos can be labelled as asset, cause they can never be a currency till on decentralized platform and are volatile.

Its merely a store of value for many people as well as government. So invest, pay taxes, trade and stay happy that’s all, don’t expect it to be a currency.

I don't think it is any one country that is playing with the price rather it is the large financial institutions such as Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan etc that want to continue to exert their control over the money system of the planet.

I do not think anyone will be able to destroy bitcoin. All can only exert influence but no one can completely destroy.

Anyone can invest in Bitcoin. Your friend. Your enemy. Your whatever. However, you must advice them to learn about the basics of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency first. Investing in Bitcoin without having a basic knowledge of Bitcoin or not knowing what you're doing is a recipe for failure. You don't just follow the band because everyone is in the band. Invest in bitcoin only after study and research.

In the world today there are many places where Bitcoin is considered as a primary currency for more developed industries or economies, but there are still many places that do not accept Bitcoin and seek to remove Bitcoin from the market. And the country, but after many other plans, the lands to destroy Bitcoin is difficult because Bitcoin grows well.

I dont think any country or organisation can manipulate these billion dollar market . Here whales and early crypto investors playing with us they are dumping coins . Once it reach the bottom again they start to pick good one . Some will be die some will pick up with great potential . So do research and buy more good potential coins.

Personally I doubt that we, general miners or traders could do anything in this situation
All we can do is just adapt to situation I guess.. that is all.. we do not have any comparable resources or power to countermeasure that hostile actions.. So .. just relax..

The most they can do is make some government regulation to influent on BTC price.  This is their limit with no doubt.

I think every government will strongly protect against the development of virtal currencies like bitcoin. this becomes a problem in a country without exception the big and advanced countries. but not as you think, this situation involves many factors and elements

I'm not sure that now someone needs to destroy bitcoin. As you can see, he goes down without any help))

True, digital money is something all governments are interested. But some individual made the move before them and now digital money is out of their hands. They don't own it so they don't profit from it, they are now taking the necessary steps to make it profitable for themselves and their people (ok, ok, mostly themselves)

Bitcoin is rebolotionise more than money or economics
And it could transform the role of government
The regulation that needs to depoliticized.

This isn’t true. There is a whole bunch of people who don’t want bitcoins to be promoted. They are working with wrong intentions to demolish bitcoins as possible as they can.

You can see it obviously that there have been so many funds coming out every month like some China exchanges are banned, bitcoins are dying, google banned ads or much stupid news that are actually nothing but fusses.

Some of the world power don't like bitcoin because it is something they can not track so of course they are against it. I am pretty sure they won't succeed in destroying bitcoin

Because Bitcoin is untraceable, many countries see it as a threat. Especially the big ones. They will do everything to destroy it because they see a potential in it. But, fortunately, Bitcoin isn't centered in one country. So, if they will do it, it is going to be really hard for them to. Meanwhile , we need to help Bitcoin rise, to a level that no one can stop it or make it disappear.

many online sellers started taking bitcoins when paying for goods or services, which demonstrates the real significance of the crypto currency.

in my opinion it is not a country that try to destroy bitcoin i think it is a banker or many bankers in all around the world that have an agreement to destroy bitcoin, because they all know what will happen if bitcoin can get accepted by many people in around the world their banking business will be crash

I think accusing USA as country who want to destroy Bitcoin is a bit of an offend. I thought Bitcoin originated at the USA so how can the can the creator want to destroy it's creation? China maybe but not USA, yet Bitcoin cannot easily be destroyed because there is a lot of investment that was poured on it's blockchain.

What difference does it have in his pocket or at the bottom of the ocean? And most importantly - a common understanding. And lying on the seabed, the stone was also exchanged and passed like any other.

There are a lot of people playing with you, people from all over the world, who know about Bitcoin and virtual currencies and look to invest in Bitcoin as a new investment channel with hope. will make a lot of money. They can be anyone in this world, regardless of age, gender, money and willingness to invest

I think BTC not good to trade and use it to shoping because it too low and hight fee