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Title: Paypal Negative £1400 .Sold Bitoins..
Post by: MinerLT on October 14, 2013, 11:37:39 AM
I sold 13BTC to my honest "firend" from usa, i know him about 1 year, and guess what, he is scamer!
got £1400 then withdraw everything to my bank account, few days later i get negative of £1400! Money has been returned to sender. thats it.

What's gonna be now ? i live in UK and what if i don't pay ?


Title: Re: Paypal Negative £1400 .Sold Bitoins..
Post by: miernik on October 14, 2013, 11:44:34 AM
I sold 13BTC to my honest "firend" from usa, i know him about 1 year, and guess what, he is scamer!
got £1400 then withdraw everything to my bank account, few days later i get negative of £1400! Money has been returned to sender. thats it.

That is not necessarily the case (that he is a scammer). Paypal is known to sometimes reverse transactions out of their own initiative, without any intervention of the sender, just because Paypal doesn't like something about the transaction. I know it for sure, as Paypal once to my surprise reversed my payment to someone, without my will. Without any real reason, maybe just because I used TOR to connect to Paypal for that transaction, as I use TOR often even without specific need if it works reasonably fast.


Title: Re: Paypal Negative £1400 .Sold Bitoins..
Post by: gonzos on October 14, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
You should have done your homework before. Never do btc <--> Paypal.
Guess they will come knocking really soon if you don't pay up. I know it's a big sum but it's widely acknowledged that paypal is not the way to go.


Title: Re: Paypal Negative £1400 .Sold Bitoins..
Post by: Maidak on October 15, 2013, 12:16:43 AM
I sold 13BTC to my honest "firend" from usa, i know him about 1 year, and guess what, he is scamer!
got £1400 then withdraw everything to my bank account, few days later i get negative of £1400! Money has been returned to sender. thats it.

That is not necessarily the case (that he is a scammer). Paypal is known to sometimes reverse transactions out of their own initiative, without any intervention of the sender, just because Paypal doesn't like something about the transaction. I know it for sure, as Paypal once to my surprise reversed my payment to someone, without my will. Without any real reason, maybe just because I used TOR to connect to Paypal for that transaction, as I use TOR often even without specific need if it works reasonably fast.

That is not always the case either, I actually bought about $400 or so worth of coins from goat ;) who posted in here saying not to use paypal hehe. Paypal actually called me about 3 days later asking if this payment was legitimate. Of course I said it was they proceeded to ask me several questions on why I sent it as a service of course I didnt tell them it was because I was buying bitcoins. I told them essentially the user provided me a service that was rendered and I am satisfied. I kept it short with them and didnt give them my entire life story on what I do with my paypal account. The less info you give them the better, but on the other hand paypal does reverse transactions without informing the buyer to. Its happened to me a handful of times and trust me i've almost gone into cardiac arrest because of it. :P


Title: Re: Paypal Negative £1400 .Sold Bitoins..
Post by: hulk on October 16, 2013, 02:44:15 PM
I sold 13BTC to my honest "firend" from usa, i know him about 1 year, and guess what, he is scamer!
got £1400 then withdraw everything to my bank account, few days later i get negative of £1400! Money has been returned to sender. thats it.

What's gonna be now ? i live in UK and what if i don't pay ?

How long do you know your friend and what do you mean by "honest friend"?


Title: Re: Paypal Negative £1400 .Sold Bitoins..
Post by: posormo on October 17, 2013, 05:56:52 AM
I sold 13BTC to my honest "firend" from usa, i know him about 1 year, and guess what, he is scamer!
got £1400 then withdraw everything to my bank account, few days later i get negative of £1400! Money has been returned to sender. thats it.

What's gonna be now ? i live in UK and what if i don't pay ?

How long do you know your friend and what do you mean by "honest friend"?

Or more to the point.  What if C-A-T really spelled dog?


Title: Re: Paypal Negative £1400 .Sold Bitoins..
Post by: vitalemontea on October 17, 2013, 03:14:03 PM
Forget Paypal as medium of exchange/business/whatever, it is only good for buying stuff from eBay. Internet has to understand this once and for all


Title: Re: Paypal Negative £1400 .Sold Bitoins..
Post by: cryptasm on October 17, 2013, 03:45:16 PM
You need to find out whether it was your 'friend' who reversed the payment or not. If you have been scammed I doubt you will ever see that money again.

Soon you'll start getting red letters from Paypal then you'll get a visit from one of their third party debt collectors. Just remember NOT to let them into your house, they can only enter your property if you have unpaid criminal fines, Income Tax or Stamp Duty. Having said that, they could still take your car/items outside the property, so might be an idea to park somewhere else (and take any valuables out). In long run, probably best to pay as soon as you can as the debt collectors add more fees to their bill each time they go away empty handed.



Title: Re: Paypal Negative £1400 .Sold Bitoins..
Post by: Magazine on October 17, 2013, 03:50:50 PM
They will just sell the debt to a debt collections agency and try bully you with letters and phone calls and visits.