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Title: Culture of hodlers
Post by: Nadirbil on March 13, 2018, 09:38:24 PM
I write of course stupidity. But I will say. What can we resist the increasing attempts to regulate bitcoin? It is to be hodlers. Even if you actively play on the stock exchange, do not sell everything. Let the small part will be all of the market. This process must be stepped up. We need to be fanatics and we will win.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on March 13, 2018, 10:19:46 PM
Regulation of bitcoin is just in few countries, many developed countries are just happy with tax they can collect as capital gain on bitcoin investment. So those country might never ban bitcoin which is good.

Those countries where bitcoin trading is banned are the one with bunch of idiots sitting on governmental position. They don't know about bitcoin so they are just calling it as ponzi.. ;D ;D


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: diouf67 on March 13, 2018, 10:55:33 PM
Holding isn't going to stop regulation. It's just going to make regulation pointless because there will be no transactions to regulate. It also means that we are going to be stuck holding a bunch of coins that we can't do anything with. We have to accept regulation, in time it will be what is best for the cryptocurrency space.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: avikz on March 13, 2018, 10:57:43 PM
I write of course stupidity. But I will say. What can we resist the increasing attempts to regulate bitcoin? It is to be hodlers. Even if you actively play on the stock exchange, do not sell everything. Let the small part will be all of the market. This process must be stepped up. We need to be fanatics and we will win.

I am not sure I've understood you correctly. But let me make one thing clear that, regulation does not mean prohibition. Today itself I have seen a similar argument where op correctly pointed out the difference between regulation and prohibition. I believe the community need to understand that fact.

Imposing tax on bitcoin income is a regulation, but blocking exchanges is a prohibition. So regulation is healthy for the crypto community as a whole and may fire up the adoption rate to an exponential level.

Just to add, HODLers are the biggest supporters of bitcoin because they believe in it with their hard earned money. They are the loyal group of supporters. Those who change from one currency to another, they are quick profit seekers. Even though we need both of them to be present in the market, the quick profit seekers are like gold-digger girlfriends.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: 5ensei on March 13, 2018, 10:59:15 PM
Hodlers will help to stabilise the price, but it won't curb regulation. This is being enforced due to the sheer number of scammers ripping people off so regulation is coming to prevent that. Also where there are profits there are taxes so they will find a way to tax us - unless you go to Germany for tax free bitcoin ;)


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: SUDARMONO on March 13, 2018, 11:05:14 PM
If we are active in the stock market and always trade with a profit of only 10% every day we've got a big win when balanced with our large capital and holding a small part to succeed when the price is so mounting.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: Pesona1 on March 13, 2018, 11:09:50 PM
If we are active in the stock market and always trade with a profit of only 10% every day we've got a big win when balanced with our large capital and holding a small part to succeed when the price is so mounting.
with a profit capital of only 10% I think it can be to make a profit because the high price hold price we hold is not futile and will produce. but hold can not be done everybody because people who dare to holad have brave character in coin trader.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: Dondont on March 13, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
I write of course stupidity. But I will say. What can we resist the increasing attempts to regulate bitcoin? It is to be hodlers. Even if you actively play on the stock exchange, do not sell everything. Let the small part will be all of the market. This process must be stepped up. We need to be fanatics and we will win.

Holding is to prevent price to get big dump, i think theres no relation between holding and bitcoin regulation. also if those crypto projects have a good roadmap at the future it will help the price go higher


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: maaydin on March 13, 2018, 11:26:02 PM
if there are regulations regarding btc that means that btc would be officially accepted because when you don`t accept a thing you can`t regulate which in a long term would be great for the market and btc to be more popular.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: diouf67 on March 14, 2018, 10:33:41 PM
I write of course stupidity. But I will say. What can we resist the increasing attempts to regulate bitcoin? It is to be hodlers. Even if you actively play on the stock exchange, do not sell everything. Let the small part will be all of the market. This process must be stepped up. We need to be fanatics and we will win.

I am not sure I've understood you correctly. But let me make one thing clear that, regulation does not mean prohibition. Today itself I have seen a similar argument where op correctly pointed out the difference between regulation and prohibition. I believe the community need to understand that fact.

Imposing tax on bitcoin income is a regulation, but blocking exchanges is a prohibition. So regulation is healthy for the crypto community as a whole and may fire up the adoption rate to an exponential level.

Just to add, HODLers are the biggest supporters of bitcoin because they believe in it with their hard earned money. They are the loyal group of supporters. Those who change from one currency to another, they are quick profit seekers. Even though we need both of them to be present in the market, the quick profit seekers are like gold-digger girlfriends.

I also saw the same thread and it's such an important distinction. Regulation perhaps limits the uses of cryptocurrencies but it makes the likelihood of it being used for the remaining ones much greater and thus overall it's a good thing. If you want to avoid tax or use crypto for other illegal activities then regulation isn't for you. Prohibition benefits no one, not even the countries that are enforcing it because it would just mean that all cryptocurrency activity moves underground. It's like the old saying 'better the devil you know than the devil you don't' - by regulating cryptocurrency it helps governments make it in to the 'devil' they know.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: al.nechiporuk on March 21, 2018, 11:27:25 PM
There is a rule that those who wait, they earn the most. Many smart traders simply leave their private offices on exchanges and do other things. And that's right, now the market is unpredictable and you can only lose your money, it's wiser to just wait.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: coin-investor on March 21, 2018, 11:30:38 PM
I write of course stupidity. But I will say. What can we resist the increasing attempts to regulate bitcoin? It is to be hodlers. Even if you actively play on the stock exchange, do not sell everything. Let the small part will be all of the market. This process must be stepped up. We need to be fanatics and we will win.

I agree that we should not sell everything but there should be a big percentage for trading because this is why Bitcoin was created, as a payment processor with no third party involved, imagine what would happen if all bitcoin supporters are holding their bitcoin, there will be no volume to speak off.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: Suharti12 on March 21, 2018, 11:34:06 PM
It is true with what you express, we should not sell everything especially when the price is cheap, we must still hold to wait for the price to crawl up, that's what we have to do.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: Whibu on March 22, 2018, 01:24:26 AM

Yes I totally agree with your opinion, I will leave little for my bet in stock, and I will not lose it all, your idea is very good.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: Siren on March 22, 2018, 01:36:49 AM
I write of course stupidity. But I will say. What can we resist the increasing attempts to regulate bitcoin? It is to be hodlers. Even if you actively play on the stock exchange, do not sell everything. Let the small part will be all of the market. This process must be stepped up. We need to be fanatics and we will win.
i guess we are just misleading about many issues of countries worldwide,its not about the regulation but the taxation,governments fount that lots of money are circulating in this community and their people has getting from this and suddenly without taxation so i think this is normal and i agreed on this one


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: pooya87 on March 22, 2018, 04:15:17 AM
I write of course stupidity. But I will say. What can we resist the increasing attempts to regulate bitcoin? It is to be hodlers. Even if you actively play on the stock exchange, do not sell everything. Let the small part will be all of the market. This process must be stepped up. We need to be fanatics and we will win.

the exact opposite is going to happen actually!

majority of people who HODL are doing it because they don't want to trade not because they are not capable of trading. and the reason why they don't want to do that is because using exchanges is extremely risky. they are unregulated shady places with a nice front that doesn't show anything until they run away with your money.
if regulations happen and exchanges become more trusted more people will start trading and stop just holding. and as the result of all this, we will no longer see stupidly huge swings where just one FUD can drop the price 40%...


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: thanhhoian2016 on March 22, 2018, 07:40:41 AM
I think that for those of you who are not afraid of Bitcoin up or down, they are only interested in a long or short time to get Bitcoin up high.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: yj300316 on March 22, 2018, 09:10:55 AM
I write of course stupidity. But I will say. What can we resist the increasing attempts to regulate bitcoin? It is to be hodlers. Even if you actively play on the stock exchange, do not sell everything. Let the small part will be all of the market. This process must be stepped up. We need to be fanatics and we will win.

Yes you a quite right. What we can do to prevent fall of bitcoin is to hold bitcoin.
If we all unite to hold bitcoin, i believe bitcoin price won't go worse. Screw the regulations!


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: whoisyourking on March 22, 2018, 09:18:18 AM
I write of course stupidity. But I will say. What can we resist the increasing attempts to regulate bitcoin? It is to be hodlers. Even if you actively play on the stock exchange, do not sell everything. Let the small part will be all of the market. This process must be stepped up. We need to be fanatics and we will win.

Those regulation from other country has huge affect to bitcoin economy because of the huge volume sale from them but not for long, but if spread a good news to the public and get more investors, small and large investors will help those huge volume will split in many parts in no time. 


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: Nadirbil on March 22, 2018, 10:37:27 PM

Yes I totally agree with your opinion, I will leave little for my bet in stock, and I will not lose it all, your idea is very good.
I am very glad that at least you understood my idea


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: lagista on March 22, 2018, 10:41:31 PM
cultural holder is sure to happen and we can implement a small strategy to hold back, we can not sell the whole because cryptocurrency market has an increase or decrease so we can not predict in the future whether good or not when the coin in the hold we can not determine yet hold is a culture to gain profit.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: lukmandog on March 22, 2018, 11:59:09 PM
Sounds Hodlers think about the safety of their investment.
Regulation for bitcoin will create a new era of crypto market which means bitcoin will be totally different. no more big profit after a long term HODL.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: mx667 on March 23, 2018, 01:03:30 AM
Cultural holder is sure to happen and we can implement a small strategy to hold back, we can not sell the whole because cryptocurrency market has an increase or decrease so we can not predict in the future whether good or not when the coin in the hold we can not determine yet hold is a culture to gain profit.
Do not afraid to hold, and do not hesitate to invest. A lot of people already benefit from Bitcoin investment and become a millionaire because of Bitcoin. The price of Bitcoin always go up and down, and that is a very normal thing. We do not need to worry about that because the price of Bitcoin will recover sooner or later. The only thing we should focus about is how much Bitcoin can we make and collect right now. How much Bitcoin can we buy right now to prepare the increasing price of Bitcoin that will happen in the future. So that when we get a lot of people, we can get a lot of profit too, in the future and our time will be worth it.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: AlexAtom on March 23, 2018, 03:50:44 AM
I write of course stupidity. But I will say. What can we resist the increasing attempts to regulate bitcoin? It is to be hodlers. Even if you actively play on the stock exchange, do not sell everything. Let the small part will be all of the market. This process must be stepped up. We need to be fanatics and we will win.

Yes, the holders must keep holding it so the price not decreasing further in the market.
But many peoples and holders think if they keep holding, they will lose their coins value.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: gehtrs on March 23, 2018, 04:15:49 AM
cultural holder is sure to happen and we can implement a small strategy to hold back, we can not sell the whole because cryptocurrency market has an increase or decrease so we can not predict in the future whether good or not when the coin in the hold we can not determine yet hold is a culture to gain profit.

I think Hodlers will help stabilize prices, but it will not limit the regulations. However, the current problem of the Bitcoin trading platform in China is not only to bypass the foreign exchange control.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: gantez on March 23, 2018, 04:26:30 AM

Yes I totally agree with your opinion, I will leave little for my bet in stock, and I will not lose it all, your idea is very good.


It is like you are the few that understand the point and advise made by the OP. It actually be wish when we don't sell the total of each coin we have. A single coin left in a wallet might turn out to be the price of one bitcoin in the near future .


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: Nadirbil on March 24, 2018, 02:40:14 PM
Many do not realize just HODLERS. I'll give you an allegory (it is not necessary to perceive literally). Anyone familiar with collecting coins? As a coin value of 1 cent can be cost $ 1,000? You you that a lot of reasons.I agree. But of course one of the reasons is their rarity. Also with bitcoin. The rarer it will sell, the higher the price will be. And the more people will use it in a panic to buy. And this will push the price up even more.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: krauzzer02 on March 24, 2018, 03:09:48 PM
I write of course stupidity. But I will say. What can we resist the increasing attempts to regulate bitcoin? It is to be hodlers. Even if you actively play on the stock exchange, do not sell everything. Let the small part will be all of the market. This process must be stepped up. We need to be fanatics and we will win.
We have different motives when it comes to bitcoin, cannot force them to hold bitcoin as it is going to be the opposite of what the blockchain for, that is true that some regulations cross the lines in cryptocurrency that you need to submit in the policy of KYC on exchanges, local crypto services imposed by the government and wallets they want you to be identified in order to regulate bitcoin and its users. Positively speaking this would help the authorities to fight fraudsters and criminals but the downfall would be the risk of our privacy but if you own the private key then your not required to be regulated.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: zaytsevsasha654 on March 24, 2018, 07:58:48 PM
Those who are associated with the secondary market of crypto-currency, which, as is known, are extracted by bitcoins and already traded, like any other assets, say that in the coming year the bitcoins will grow in price


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: organelles on March 24, 2018, 08:28:56 PM

Holding coins make them unavailable in the market. a decrease in supply of a coin in the market with a high demand makes the value of the coin rise. holding can be good, but be sure to offload some when need be


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: zaytsevsasha654 on March 24, 2018, 10:01:15 PM
Those who are associated with the secondary market of crypto-currency, which, as is known, are extracted by bitcoins and already traded, like any other assets, say that in the coming year the bitcoins will grow in price


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: Ghondronk on March 24, 2018, 10:06:32 PM

Holding coins make them unavailable in the market. a decrease in supply of a coin in the market with a high demand makes the value of the coin rise. holding can be good, but be sure to offload some when need be
And maybe holding a large number of coins will not be one good action. Sometimes we should be able to trade it so that the funds you hold can become an active market


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: Nellayar on March 24, 2018, 10:12:57 PM
Holding isn't going to stop regulation. It's just going to make regulation pointless because there will be no transactions to regulate. It also means that we are going to be stuck holding a bunch of coins that we can't do anything with. We have to accept regulation, in time it will be what is best for the cryptocurrency space.
I totally agree with your opinion. At the same time, regulation in bitcoin does not change by hodlers. In fact, the hodlers of the bitcoin will loss at the end. Holding of bitcoins will not anymore change the regulation of the government.


Title: Re: Culture of hodlers
Post by: pletnevihor on March 26, 2018, 08:47:48 AM
 In addition, the Cabinet of Ministers and the regulator must establish the requirements for mining and its taxation.