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Title: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: cocal on March 15, 2018, 09:02:00 AM
I think that in the future, blockchain entrepreneurs will have less and less financing, the valuation will gradually return to rationality, and the team's performance may appear to be gambling terms with investors to ensure the project's confidence. Projects will be polarized, excellent projects will get better and better, air-to-air or me too projects with no core competitiveness will die, and the bubble will start to burst. I think this is a good thing, indicating that the blockchain is gradually becoming normalized. Please share your ideas,thank you.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: HeRetiK on March 15, 2018, 10:09:33 AM
Oh definitely. And it's going to be much more brutal than anyone can imagine so far, because...

excellent projects will get better and better

...these are close to non-existent...

air-to-air or me too projects with no core competitiveness will die

...while these make up the vast majority of the market. Coins and tokens in the top 10 market cap included.


To be honest, I think the only blockchain projects that are going to survive long term are the decentralized ones driven by community efforts such as Bitcoin and some of the mineable / stakeable alts. Companies serving these communities are likely to do well as well (eg. Coinbase, BitPay, etc.)

Every other startup-based cryptocurrency / token project is likely to either crash and burn or to pivot, given that their scopes are usually beyond feasibility, their use case of questionable utility and often both.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: DooMAD on March 15, 2018, 02:15:24 PM
One would hope so, but the cynic in me doesn't see it happening.  "Rationality" isn't exactly something speculators are renowned for.  Just look at how stock markets reacted not that long ago to a bunch of no-name companies simply changing their name to include the word "blockchain".  Or how banks and hedge funds happily trade derivatives in things where the underlying asset is just toxic, repackaged debt.  I, sadly, believe there will always be a market to pump and dump worthless crap, although I genuinely wish that wasn't so.

These things don't necessarily have to survive long-term, because the supply will always be replenished with more worthless crapcoins and ICOs.  If it's still a profitable game for some, people will continue to play. 

Again, I hope I'm wrong about this.  The world would indeed be a better place if the OP is proven to be correct.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: palle11 on March 15, 2018, 02:28:56 PM
OP has stated the obvious about the future of blockchain but I'm a bit skeptical about the rationality angle of it. For instance, at the present time, we can not marry rationality and speculation. Speculation itself is subject. The market always proves that when it does a surprise that is contrary to speculation.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: Haley craft on March 15, 2018, 02:33:35 PM
Yes, for now, people gradually come to their senses, then blockchain industry and Cryptocurrency market bubble will be smaller and smaller, but valuable tokens, then they will still have sharply increases.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: sorrysteve1 on March 15, 2018, 02:37:13 PM
One thing is for certain and that's the scenario you speak of is going to happen at one point in time. I think we aren't quite at that stage yet but let's wait and see. The dotcom bubble is evidence enough that this will happen.

As much as I do hold some of these more hyped coins I think it will be good overall if the market heads in that direction, provided that money flows from bad projects to good ones instead of away from crypto.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: pawanjain on March 15, 2018, 02:41:43 PM
No, the era of speculation is still there and according to me it will be there forever. How ? Because there are people who actively trade cryptocurrencies on a daily basis. It is quite obvious that the non-potential ICOs and projects will die becuase of being dormant. In my opinion, crypto has still a long way ahead and large obstacles to face. The final destination is when crypto will be accepted worldwide and it will happen only when people stick to their holdings and whales/big player don't play any politics and manipulate the price of cryptocurrencies. Until these things are settled, crypto will have to bare the bear market.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: CryptoCZe on March 15, 2018, 02:43:40 PM
I believe that our time is a time of active development, decentralization and blocking, so we have great opportunities. If you buy a few different promising altcoys now, in 3-4 years you will have a lot of profit


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: EveryThingIsOkaY on March 15, 2018, 02:55:16 PM
If this burst bubble will leave good coins behind, i think, let it happen.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: BrewMaster on March 15, 2018, 03:19:48 PM
you can hope for better days but that doesn't mean they will come.
the altcoin market will remain the small side product like penny stocks which nobody will take seriously and most of it is because of all the useless projects and all the copy pasting of the code that they are doing,

if a good project exists i assure you that it won't remain hidden and it won't require hype to go up. it will gain popularity and it will grow on its own. whenever you see some project is advertised to death, it means it has nothing to offer so it has to succumb to these cheap tactics.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: vaughn125 on March 15, 2018, 06:51:56 PM
I think that in the future, blockchain entrepreneurs will have less and less financing, the valuation will gradually return to rationality, and the team's performance may appear to be gambling terms with investors to ensure the project's confidence. Projects will be polarized, excellent projects will get better and better, air-to-air or me too projects with no core competitiveness will die, and the bubble will start to burst. I think this is a good thing, indicating that the blockchain is gradually becoming normalized. Please share your ideas,thank you.


I believe so too because looking at how things have been going on here in the crypto world, I can say that a lot has really changed from what the ICOs back then were, what concepts they use, how they advertise, manage their ICOs and so much more. Clearly, it is only a matter of time before we reach the new era of the crypto world. I just hope that it wouldn't be as brutal as I am imagining it to be and become the opposite instead or at least not be as hard to adapt in. Oh well, whatever happens, happens. I hope Good luck wishes are enough for us all.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: rockie87 on March 15, 2018, 06:52:56 PM
I think that in the future, blockchain entrepreneurs will have less and less financing, the valuation will gradually return to rationality, and the team's performance may appear to be gambling terms with investors to ensure the project's confidence. Projects will be polarized, excellent projects will get better and better, air-to-air or me too projects with no core competitiveness will die, and the bubble will start to burst. I think this is a good thing, indicating that the blockchain is gradually becoming normalized. Please share your ideas,thank you.
I think you are right with slight correction.The financing point of your's is absolutely right but don't you think bringing rationality in funding makes one coin stronger and it is an open invitation to whales and big investors to invest big in one coin as everybody has faith in it and which makes that coin eventually into bubble which they can burst anytime.See my point is in one way you are correct but you have to think about the repercussion of this action too.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: pleght on March 15, 2018, 07:07:13 PM
I do not think the speculative period has passed yet.I also do not think speculation will end in this market.There is a market that can be overwhelmed by every news.Because there are too many unconscious investors.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: Diced90 on March 15, 2018, 09:33:39 PM
Yes, for now, people gradually come to their senses, then blockchain industry and Cryptocurrency market bubble will be smaller and smaller, but valuable tokens, then they will still have sharply increases.
I agree people have come to their senses but what I would like to see is positive speculation not just FUD which makes some cryptocurrencies so hyped and end up being categorized to be speculative coins which make investors and financial regulators not to be in support of such coins.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: Rozita on March 15, 2018, 09:38:03 PM
No, Speculations are still determining the prices. This market is affected by any news and people have to follow the speculations to earn money. But sometimes whales manipulate the market and cause something else and it is same as before.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: beskid on March 15, 2018, 09:47:45 PM
Speculations on cryptocurrency will never stop. The more people understand crypto currency, the less volatile it will be, but speculation will not go away.  Especially on coins of new projects.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: ambisyon on March 15, 2018, 11:44:08 PM
I don't think people will stop on speculating about the future price of a certain cryptocurrency such as bitcoin for example wherein the people who had been buying coins were really hoping that there will be a future on their investments that is why they tend to speculate or just being optimistic on that matter.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: Whibu on March 16, 2018, 12:06:44 AM
Much of what we expect and now many hope that bubbles will soon happen to raise prices higher that could make many people happy and earn huge profits.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: Bervelukan on March 16, 2018, 12:25:24 AM
The bubble of rises I have been waiting for a long time to sell the coin and get the benefits of the bubble, and hope it will soon happen.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: J-N on March 16, 2018, 12:36:50 AM
I think that in the future, blockchain entrepreneurs will have less and less financing, the valuation will gradually return to rationality, and the team's performance may appear to be gambling terms with investors to ensure the project's confidence. Projects will be polarized, excellent projects will get better and better, air-to-air or me too projects with no core competitiveness will die, and the bubble will start to burst. I think this is a good thing, indicating that the blockchain is gradually becoming normalized. Please share your ideas,thank you.
I think some "whales" just play the game on the crypto-exchange markets. These rich investors slowly buy a huge amount of all high-capitalized crypto-currencies and sell these coins in one day. Probably, they use the trading signals from the one source.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: Anti-Cen on March 16, 2018, 12:38:59 AM
Again, I hope I'm wrong about this.  The world would indeed be a better place if the OP is proven to be correct.

Don't you ever stop because your like a paid motor mouth and must be spend eighteen hours a day here and I am sure you could
earn more by joining one of them "Signature campaigns" than your making from the page impressions in the footer of your posts here.

You seem to be getting more desperate as bitcoin goes lower so just ask your troll master to pay you in green backs before you
end up having a break down.



Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: richardsNY on March 16, 2018, 12:48:20 AM
Probably, they use the trading signals from the one source.

If we're talking about the actual market movers, then it's safe to say that they don't need any information source to move the market -- they are their own source. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that market movers are pooling their efforts together in order to rule this market with iron fist. Exchanges have always had to deal with very poor order book liquidity, and that isn't any different today. A few large players working together smartly controlling their own leading exchanges, is enough to steer the global market up and down in the exact way they think it should be going. In times where there is relatively 'bad' news coming out, they can use that as an opportunity to steer the market down without using too much of their own resources, because this market is known to exaggerate its selloffs.... This market is like a playing ground for them.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: nsndasod on March 16, 2018, 05:44:05 AM
The era of speculation will never be over. All investments will be overvalued and the cryptocurrency will be the same, but it is not a bad thing if the bubble disappears.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: ymnhg980 on March 16, 2018, 05:51:42 AM
I think that in the future, blockchain entrepreneurs will have less and less financing, the valuation will gradually return to rationality, and the team's performance may appear to be gambling terms with investors to ensure the project's confidence. Projects will be polarized, excellent projects will get better and better, air-to-air or me too projects with no core competitiveness will die, and the bubble will start to burst. I think this is a good thing, indicating that the blockchain is gradually becoming normalized. Please share your ideas,thank you.
The blockchain financing needs to be calm, and everyone is too fanatical about ICO. They think this will give them a lot of benefits. So everyone is crazy to join and will not go looking for the details of this project.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: seumk on March 16, 2018, 06:03:19 AM
If this burst bubble will leave good coins behind, i think, let it happen.
In the same opinion, if a bubble occurs and some bad things are removed, the remaining good will have a significant impact on the market, and the remaining coins will have a major impact on us.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: cerebro415 on March 16, 2018, 06:08:39 AM
For anything and everything, specially if it is something that involves innovation or a technological breakthrough, whether it is on its early phases or higher phases that involve complexities and sophistications that make it better compared to how it was from its early stages, there would always be room for speculation. It is one from several elements that allow something to change into something better.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: mahilchii on March 16, 2018, 06:09:04 AM
Nope. Speculation is always there in any volatile currency market. If you take share market, there are speculation for even .01$ change in market. Crypto world price change is almost 1000% more than the share market and speculation will be there until market price fluctuation exist. Without speculation there won't be any growth or market price change in which we earn profit.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: pimkobai on March 16, 2018, 06:30:32 AM
Nope. Speculation is always there in any volatile currency market. If you take share market, there are speculation for even .01$ change in market. Crypto world price change is almost 1000% more than the share market and speculation will be there until market price fluctuation exist. Without speculation there won't be any growth or market price change in which we earn profit.

Agree, people would still be doing speculation since most of the time, investors and traders are usually waiting the crypto coins to pump. Most of the people tend to speculate bitcoin since this will contribute on the price movement on the other alt currencies because they are correlated with the other. I think that speculation cannot be dissolve for as long as there are people supporting cryptocurrencies in the market.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: last7minutes on March 19, 2018, 07:40:29 PM
The era of speculation will never be over. All investments will be overvalued and the cryptocurrency will be the same, but it is not a bad thing if the bubble disappears.

Correct, it will be never over. as long as the mankind exists the era of speculation will live as well. It will be not always connected with crypto, but if the post authour was speaking about this aspect, it will last longer as well.


Title: Re: Has the era of speculation gone?
Post by: petyp123456789 on March 28, 2018, 01:13:14 PM
Despite technical shortcomings, Bitcoin is a powerful tool for payments, funds transfer, microfinance or circumvention of government requirements for the disclosure of personal data.