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Title: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: mensha on March 16, 2018, 06:41:25 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: dear53 on March 16, 2018, 06:46:41 PM
Bitcoin is a very nice currency but its going to high and low in a very short time.It is a trusted currency but some time i feel very risky with it.The bitcoin market is not work good now.It is very hard to controlling bitcoin now.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: gloriam5 on March 16, 2018, 06:47:34 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?
this no one knows, they are not stupid to declare their names, and why should you.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: tosindesign on March 16, 2018, 06:48:05 PM
Billions in dollars are the one controlling the price action.when they want to buy btc ,they crash btc by influencing the media to campaign agains it.after they are saturated with their buy , they high the price by news too,so that poor can buy from them when high


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: MrCrank on March 16, 2018, 06:56:20 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?

Satoshi Nikamoto is real, I read few articles about it.
I don't know where is true.
Really interesting


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: Fazlurkhan.kz on March 16, 2018, 07:38:21 PM
There are no decisions to be taken and no modifications to be done. The bitcoin network continues to spread and is functional because of its miners. They're the one who makes bitcoin transactions possible and makes it look like a Childs' work. They also are the one build or say mine more bitcoins so as to increase the number of circulating bitcoins and maintain the blockchain on which all the information of bitcoins of an individual in different blocks are stored!


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: craZyLovE0916 on March 18, 2018, 12:10:34 PM
The bitcoin network is entirely decentralized, the fundamental purpose of bitcoin is to keep any one person or a group of people from controlling a currency used by a lot of people. Bitcoin was built to kick against control of money but the few which means the few controls everything but with bitcoin even you own only a little bit of coins then control is also in your hands as much as anyone else.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: DooMAD on March 18, 2018, 01:06:31 PM
People always seem to have some pretty interesting ideas on how "control" supposedly works in Bitcoin.  In my own personal view, everyone has just enough control in order to make it so that no one has overall control (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2109675.msg21154668#msg21154668).  Users, developers and miners all contribute, but none of them can unilaterally force a change on the network which the other participants don't agree with.  The alignment of incentives usually keeps everything in check, but when there is a strong disagreement and consensus can't be achieved, users, devs and miners are all free to leave and use another chain which can then compete on the open market for survival.

In the very early days of Bitcoin, Satoshi was indeed in control of the project, but things have changed drastically since then.  Now, any new proposed changes are peer-reviewed and tested fully before being added to the codebase.  And both users and miners then have to agree to run that codebase before any change can be fully implemented.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: rockstarr on March 18, 2018, 01:18:10 PM
People always seem to have some pretty interesting ideas on how "control" supposedly works in Bitcoin.  In my own personal view, everyone has just enough control in order to make it so that no one has overall control (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2109675.msg21154668#msg21154668).  Users, developers and miners all contribute, but none of them can unilaterally force a change on the network which the other participants don't agree with.  The alignment of incentives usually keeps everything in check, but when there is a strong disagreement and consensus can't be achieved, users, devs and miners are all free to leave and use another chain which can then compete on the open market for survival.

In the very early days of Bitcoin, Satoshi was indeed in control of the project, but things have changed drastically since then.  Now, any new proposed changes are peer-reviewed and tested fully before being added to the codebase.  And both users and miners then have to agree to run that codebase before any change can be fully implemented.

How to control the situation in bitcoin crypto world are not necessarily indeed because even the owner or organizer doesn't sure if they are already controlling bitcoin. All of us in there are wanting to survive.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: paul00 on March 18, 2018, 01:30:23 PM
I think there is no one who control's bitcoin but there are people who are famous that make a thread or post and people would believed it so it take's an effect into bitcoin. For the bitcoin update the team are still anonymous and no one want's to reveal them don't know the reason why.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: HeRetiK on March 18, 2018, 01:30:35 PM
People always seem to have some pretty interesting ideas on how "control" supposedly works in Bitcoin.  In my own personal view, everyone has just enough control in order to make it so that no one has overall control (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2109675.msg21154668#msg21154668).  Users, developers and miners all contribute, but none of them can unilaterally force a change on the network which the other participants don't agree with.  The alignment of incentives usually keeps everything in check, but when there is a strong disagreement and consensus can't be achieved, users, devs and miners are all free to leave and use another chain which can then compete on the open market for survival.

I think that's the beauty of Bitcoin's governance.

Sure, things get messy sometimes. But in a way the Bitcoin community has managed to organically organize itself similar to the Separation of Power that is the basis of today's democracies. Only instead of a legislature, an executive and a judiciary we have developers, miners and users. I might be biased, but in my opinion Bitcoin has managed to uphold this balance much better than most of the alts.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: Sab11 on March 18, 2018, 01:39:04 PM
I think no one can control bitcoin, but there are many big whales can influence the price of bitcoin by just sell alot of bitcoin and when the price of bitcoin down they buy huge amount again, they can control bitcoin price by just spreading FUD.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: coinsocieties on March 18, 2018, 01:44:56 PM
I think no one can control bitcoin, but there are many big whales can influence the price of bitcoin by just sell alot of bitcoin and when the price of bitcoin down they buy huge amount again, they can control bitcoin price by just spreading FUD.

Thats true in this case big whales can controls the price of bitcoin because if they sell there big amount of bitcoin they hold there is a big effect in bitcoin price specialy if they are holding millions of bitcoins. Once one of the big whales dump hes bitcoins for example 100,000 bitcoins surely the price will going down.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: killerfrost on March 18, 2018, 01:50:47 PM
As far as I know, Bitcoin is free to run under any government. If there is an organization that controls bitcoin, that will make bitcoin no longer appealing to investors. The bitcoin market will be quiet and bitcoin prices will fall.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: hadveach on March 18, 2018, 01:51:33 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?
now there is no people controls bitcoin, but bitcoin systems are always running and have high fluctuations because many users are using bitcoins. so they are controlling system bitcoin.

when bitcoin still has investors, miners, and all other aspects that make bitcoin systems run, then bitcoin will survive.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: noormcs5 on March 18, 2018, 01:54:30 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?

It is your problem?
Well, Satoshi Nakamoto is definitely real character who made the bitcoin. Because if he is not belong to bitcoin then who will the real owner of bitcoin? and real owner definitely claim Satoshi because of bitcoin. But bitcoin is for Satoshi and everyone know about it.
But the question is who control the bitcoin or bitcoin price? It is long discussion, in short you and me if we have bitcoin then we are also controlling it in a little number, but big whales have a biggest roll in it.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: liuqi on March 18, 2018, 01:56:42 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?
First you should understand the cryptocurrency because 2008 some big crashes are happening in USA so satoshi Nakamoto was creating the decentralized currency. This will always helps to our economic growth then coming to the point all the consumers are control the Bitcoin. If you buy 10000 BTC it will raise more than 1000 USD in suddenly so no one is fully control the bitcoin all are equally control the Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: jeronimosuykens on March 18, 2018, 01:58:00 PM
People always seem to have some pretty interesting ideas on how "control" supposedly works in Bitcoin.  In my own personal view, everyone has just enough control in order to make it so that no one has overall control (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2109675.msg21154668#msg21154668).  Users, developers and miners all contribute, but none of them can unilaterally force a change on the network which the other participants don't agree with.  The alignment of incentives usually keeps everything in check, but when there is a strong disagreement and consensus can't be achieved, users, devs and miners are all free to leave and use another chain which can then compete on the open market for survival.

In the very early days of Bitcoin, Satoshi was indeed in control of the project, but things have changed drastically since then.  Now, any new proposed changes are peer-reviewed and tested fully before being added to the codebase.  And both users and miners then have to agree to run that codebase before any change can be fully implemented.

How to control the situation in bitcoin crypto world are not necessarily indeed because even the owner or organizer doesn't sure if they are already controlling bitcoin. All of us in there are wanting to survive.
Right. The blockchain platform has the advantage that no one is actually the owner of bitcoin which is an open platform. You can not expect to be able to manage the bitcoin, but only the rich will be able to control the value of bitcoin in the market.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: pawanjain on March 18, 2018, 02:05:59 PM
Firstly, we don't know if "Satoshi Nakamoto" was a group or an individual, its all a mystery. Secondly , there are hundreds of people out there who owns thousands of BTC , these people include the early investors of BTC, hackers who have stolen millions worth of BTC and some big whales like Roger Ver, Goldman Sachs etc... All these people manipulate the price of BTC through their influence .


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: bettercrypto on March 18, 2018, 02:10:37 PM
People always seem to have some pretty interesting ideas on how "control" supposedly works in Bitcoin.  In my own personal view, everyone has just enough control in order to make it so that no one has overall control (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2109675.msg21154668#msg21154668).  Users, developers and miners all contribute, but none of them can unilaterally force a change on the network which the other participants don't agree with.  The alignment of incentives usually keeps everything in check, but when there is a strong disagreement and consensus can't be achieved, users, devs and miners are all free to leave and use another chain which can then compete on the open market for survival.

In the very early days of Bitcoin, Satoshi was indeed in control of the project, but things have changed drastically since then.  Now, any new proposed changes are peer-reviewed and tested fully before being added to the codebase.  And both users and miners then have to agree to run that codebase before any change can be fully implemented.
I agree with your opinion, People controls the bitcoin. Miners, investors and users are dynamically contribute to the welfare of bitcoin. Though there is a person behind its foundation. Bitcoin was made to stand on its own and in fact, it was made to control by everyone. Bitcoin is decentralized, that's why every individual has a function in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: Matimtim on March 18, 2018, 02:18:06 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?

Bitcoin is just a currency under the modern technology, bitcoin is also call internet currency and the king of all digital money.  I read many article here in the forum said that no one controlling bitcoin at the present time.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: zenrol28 on March 18, 2018, 02:51:28 PM
Check this out mate, Bitcoin Improvement Proposals (http://"https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Improvement_Proposals"), you might have not read this. So if you want some upgrades, you can make a proposal and the network will vote.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: joshua05 on March 18, 2018, 02:59:24 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?

I believe bitcoin has its own staffs though, “satoshi nakamoto” cant do it by his self. Regardless of all the datas coming from the bitcoins different projects. We can’t see it clearly cuz, we should open our minds onto their capability, though stuffs like these aren’t our problem actually.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: CAPT.DEADPOOL on March 18, 2018, 03:00:05 PM
I think not just controlling bitcoin especially with its many holders that do not sell the hold on the bitcoin that should be done is just hold to earn big


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: serizawax on March 18, 2018, 03:12:26 PM
No one controls Bitcoin, just as no one controls the technology of email operation. Bitcoin is controlled by all its users worldwide. Developers can indeed improve Bitcoin software, but they can not enforce changes in the Bitcoin protocol because all users are free to choose the software and versionthey want to use.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: Cepot on March 18, 2018, 03:27:06 PM
Bitcoin is controlled by rich people who have a lot of money, they are investors, if they are still interested and put aside their wealth and investment, bitcoin will remain valuable, if they are not interested and sell all their coins, the possibility of bitcoin will fall, investors are in control of bitcoin


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: filippov on March 18, 2018, 03:30:25 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?

I do not think that some people can control bitcoins now. Most of the big whales had already exit bitcoins when it was at $20000 level recently.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: AVAMONEY on March 18, 2018, 03:42:22 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?
For now it's being handle by community itself, if you interest to support or check whom support development it so far, there is link about it https://bitcoin.org/en/development . For any crucial development updates, i think it has consensus meet.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: Juggy777 on March 18, 2018, 03:43:17 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?

I don't think you'll ever find a perfect answer to this question of yours cause no one knows the correct answer. Firstly satoshi was a person not a group. Now as to who controls bitcoins officially no one does. However the people with hash say higher hash percentages are the one who controls it, now who those are I don't think anyone can say as I feel no one knows, I don't think people will reveal their identity.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: arminiya on March 18, 2018, 03:54:42 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?

People holding bitcoins in large amount may be manipulating the prices but I guess very less people have that much amount. Most of these will be holding for long term and are expecting levels like $100000.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: Girtod on March 18, 2018, 04:04:56 PM
Bitcoin does not belong to anyone. This technology can be used by anyone. It is not controlled by any Central Bank, and the person who first proposed to use bitcoin for several years does not make itself felt.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: fitzzz on March 18, 2018, 04:37:44 PM
No one controls bitcoin. The problem is the price can be manipulated by a rich individual or groups. They can put money to increase the price and later pull out the money they invested to get profits.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: PhucS on March 18, 2018, 05:11:59 PM
Bitcoin is a digital currency, its nature is hierarchical, so no one or any organization can control it. Decisions about upgrading Bitcoin or hardfork will only take place when acceptance comes from the vast majority of the community. However, according to some information I know, currently, there are a large group of people who own a relatively large number of Bitcoins, they are linked together to be able to adjust Bitcoin prices. This is just my opinion


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: mammothine on March 18, 2018, 08:45:14 PM

No one truly controls bitcoin. That is the point.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: rockie87 on March 19, 2018, 06:05:05 PM
I have a problem, Who are the people that controlling the bitcoin now. We already know that bitcoin is developed by unknown group with hypothetical name called “satoshi nakamoto”. However who takes the decisions regarding bitcoin for upgrades and various other things now?
The control is always in the hands of people who has highest stakes of it.It is the prime principle of the corporate world and it implies in the cryptoworld too. "Satoshi Nakamoto" was founder and he had control when it new and no one had invested in it.Now big whales has invested loads of money to attain the control,May it be indirect one but they have the control and things are definitely panning in their way.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: voron84-05 on March 19, 2018, 06:45:46 PM

   The principle of decentralization of bitcoins is violated by because of attempts to unite the miners into very large pools,  which in turn by creating a majority and thus can support, some serious changes or separation in the network bitcoin. So if the merger of the miners continues
bitcoin may lose decentralization.
   I think so.


Title: Re: Controlling Bitcoin
Post by: daarul50 on March 19, 2018, 07:07:44 PM
Bitcoin has long been handed out to be managed by one developer like bitcoin.org and the developer has certainly been able to control bitcoin but all decisions taken by the developer are always discussed first by taking the deal from various groups of bitcoin users. so the control of bitcoin is not really fully done by the developer because the user groups are involved in the decision making on bitcoin control. All of which are aimed at the development of bitcoin in the future for much better acceptance and use by everyone.