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Title: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 19, 2013, 01:05:17 PM
Hello,

I am auctioning 42 ASICMINER direct shares.

Auction starts at 0 with no reserve. Minimum increment is 0.001 BTC and increments must be in multiples of 0.001 BTC to be valid.

Auction ends 48h after the last valid bid, as per forum time and timestamp of the post of last valid bid.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: souspeed on October 19, 2013, 01:30:42 PM
5 @ 0.60


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: cyclops on October 19, 2013, 02:06:12 PM
1 @ 0.01


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: BitThink on October 19, 2013, 02:11:48 PM
37@0.2


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: 796 on October 19, 2013, 02:14:12 PM
42 @0.55


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: BitThink on October 19, 2013, 02:20:35 PM
18@0.58


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: cyclops on October 19, 2013, 02:50:46 PM
1@0.581


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Landstander on October 19, 2013, 05:30:11 PM
42 @ 0.583


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Landstander on October 19, 2013, 05:38:36 PM
My apologies, I missed the first bid. My bid is:

37 @ 0.583
5 @ 0.605


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: cyclops on October 19, 2013, 06:00:01 PM
1@0.584


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: souspeed on October 19, 2013, 08:48:38 PM
Current bids:

Landstander   5 @ 0.605
souspeed       5 @ 0.600
cyclops          1 @ 0.584
Landstander  31 @ 0.583


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: souspeed on October 19, 2013, 08:49:10 PM
5 @ 0.610


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: souspeed on October 19, 2013, 08:49:56 PM
Current bids:

souspeed       5 @ 0.610
Landstander   5 @ 0.605
souspeed       5 @ 0.600
cyclops          1 @ 0.584
Landstander  26 @ 0.583


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on October 19, 2013, 10:39:23 PM
Namworld, what BTC Address are these shares registered to?  Can you sign a message with the private key from that address or have friedcat confirm that 42 shares are registered to you?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 19, 2013, 11:03:33 PM
Namworld, what BTC Address are these shares registered to?  Can you sign a message with the private key from that address or have friedcat confirm that 42 shares are registered to you?

The address is my old GLBSE address for the closedown:
https://blockchain.info/address/18CoGAeLJzwG3iLkBj1vARYDWW7eC7qUQ1

Which has transfered almost all funds received to 1Namjies9JeJ4ugCzjkAj6dbaWrtjAFKCk
https://blockchain.info/tx/4cbbbccab7ee1dc93620f14cb3abcb5bfa02c4565c1497fdc140126ac9d7ac9e
https://blockchain.info/tx/5b74d286e3b7d64f6b1bcaa183c92f0aa5d25cbe844cd389ee5e06078be44d1b

Which is the bitcoin address associated with my OTC profile: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=Namworld

You will notice the two latest transactions are for the equivalent of 42 ASICMINER shares of payment received from ASICMINER's sending address.

Would you still like me to get a signature?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: souspeed on October 19, 2013, 11:13:17 PM
My offer stands with escrow from SebastianJu.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on October 19, 2013, 11:15:32 PM
Namworld, what BTC Address are these shares registered to?  Can you sign a message with the private key from that address or have friedcat confirm that 42 shares are registered to you?
Would you still like me to get a signature?

If you don't mind, just to be 100% certain your bitcointalk.org account hasn't been hijacked.  Or will winning bidders be permitted to send payment to the dividend address?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 19, 2013, 11:23:55 PM
Namworld, what BTC Address are these shares registered to?  Can you sign a message with the private key from that address or have friedcat confirm that 42 shares are registered to you?
Would you still like me to get a signature?

If you don't mind, just to be 100% certain your bitcointalk.org account hasn't been hijacked.  Or will winning bidders be permitted to send payment to the dividend address?

Yes, payments can be sent to that address. I can sign a message too before receiving funds


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: cyclops on October 19, 2013, 11:48:49 PM
How will you transfer the share? (I'm new to BTC stock market)


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 19, 2013, 11:56:40 PM
How will you transfer the share? (I'm new to BTC stock market)

For direct asicminer shares, transfer is done manually by friedcat.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on October 19, 2013, 11:58:56 PM
16 @ .584


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 20, 2013, 02:31:38 AM
souspeed5 @ 0.610
Landstander5 @ 0.605
souspeed5 @ 0.600
cyclops11 @ 0.584
shawshankinmate3792716 @ .584
Landstander10 @ 0.583


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: thomashrev89 on October 20, 2013, 08:05:48 PM
5 @ 0.6


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 20, 2013, 08:11:04 PM
souspeed5 @ 0.610
Landstander5 @ 0.605
souspeed5 @ 0.600
thomashrev895 @ 0.600
cyclops11 @ 0.584
shawshankinmate3792716 @ .584
Landstander5 @ 0.583


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Adriano on October 20, 2013, 08:51:09 PM
5 @ .584


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 20, 2013, 09:11:43 PM
souspeed5 @ 0.610
Landstander5 @ 0.605
souspeed5 @ 0.600
thomashrev895 @ 0.600
cyclops11 @ 0.584
shawshankinmate3792716 @ 0.584
Adriano5 @ 0.584


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: BitCsByBit on October 21, 2013, 12:10:38 AM
42 @ 0.65


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Landstander on October 21, 2013, 05:06:17 AM
20 @ 0.651


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: souspeed on October 21, 2013, 05:14:12 AM
5 @ 0.651


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 21, 2013, 05:21:32 AM
Landstander20 @ 0.651
souspeed5 @ 0.651
BitCsByBit 17 @ 0.65


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: thomashrev89 on October 21, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
5 @ 0.651


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: bitcoiner49er on October 21, 2013, 07:52:02 PM
Bid increments of .001 AND 48h extensions after every valid bid? You expect this auction to ever end?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: BitCsByBit on October 21, 2013, 09:39:24 PM
Bid increments of .001 AND 48h extensions after every valid bid? You expect this auction to ever end?

I agree. 

Also can you please post a signed message to verify you hold the shares.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: aynstein on October 22, 2013, 04:57:49 AM
Yeah, I agree about the never ending ...FYI I want to bid but I don't want to be liable for bids in a never ending auction .... Can we come up with some exit strategy?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 22, 2013, 05:08:24 AM
I've done auctions with X after last bid ending and low minimum increment. They end relatively quickly regardless.

Rules stay as they are.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: aynstein on October 22, 2013, 09:50:45 AM
I've done auctions with X after last bid ending and low minimum increment. They end relatively quickly regardless.

Rules stay as they are.

It's your auction... how about an expiring bid? Would that be an acceptable solution or is that not fair play?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: gyverlb on October 22, 2013, 04:40:47 PM
Namworld, what BTC Address are these shares registered to?  Can you sign a message with the private key from that address or have friedcat confirm that 42 shares are registered to you?

The address is my old GLBSE address for the closedown:
https://blockchain.info/address/18CoGAeLJzwG3iLkBj1vARYDWW7eC7qUQ1

Which has transfered almost all funds received to 1Namjies9JeJ4ugCzjkAj6dbaWrtjAFKCk
https://blockchain.info/tx/4cbbbccab7ee1dc93620f14cb3abcb5bfa02c4565c1497fdc140126ac9d7ac9e
https://blockchain.info/tx/5b74d286e3b7d64f6b1bcaa183c92f0aa5d25cbe844cd389ee5e06078be44d1b

Which is the bitcoin address associated with my OTC profile: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=Namworld

You will notice the two latest transactions are for the equivalent of 42 ASICMINER shares of payment received from ASICMINER's sending address.

Would you still like me to get a signature?

I have trouble following the dividend payments identifying an address controlling ASICMINER shares.

18CoGAeLJzwG3iLkBj1vARYDWW7eC7qUQ1 only received 2 payments since 2013-04-05 on 2013-10-16 and 2013-10-09. If it's the address associated with the shares why didn't it received dividends before 2013-10-09?

1Namjies9JeJ4ugCzjkAj6dbaWrtjAFKCk recently received regular payments on Mondays, this doesn't match Wednesday payments from friedcat.

Which address is associated to these shares currently? Since when? From where/whom were the shares transferred to the current address then?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 22, 2013, 06:19:58 PM
I have trouble following the dividend payments identifying an address controlling ASICMINER shares.

18CoGAeLJzwG3iLkBj1vARYDWW7eC7qUQ1 only received 2 payments since 2013-04-05 on 2013-10-16 and 2013-10-09. If it's the address associated with the shares why didn't it received dividends before 2013-10-09?

1Namjies9JeJ4ugCzjkAj6dbaWrtjAFKCk recently received regular payments on Mondays, this doesn't match Wednesday payments from friedcat.

Which address is associated to these shares currently? Since when? From where/whom were the shares transferred to the current address then?

1Namjies9JeJ4ugCzjkAj6dbaWrtjAFKCk is receiving payments on mondays from Teramining

18CoGAeLJzwG3iLkBj1vARYDWW7eC7qUQ1 is the address I have on file with friedcat. I received 42 direct shares 2 weeks ago, hence the 2 payments, from a DMC redeem.



Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: gyverlb on October 22, 2013, 08:16:24 PM
OK, I understand now, thanks.

My bid : 42 @ 0.652

If I win some shares, I'll send payment after public signature of the following text in this thread with 18CoGAeLJzwG3iLkBj1vARYDWW7eC7qUQ1:

I will ask friedcat to transfer <n> ASICMINER shares hold by 18CoGAeLJzwG3iLkBj1vARYDWW7eC7qUQ1 to <address1> after payment of <amount>BTC to <address2> due before <date>

Where the actual values would be:
  • n : what I would win in this auction if any,
  • address1 : provided by me after confirmation of auction results,
  • amount : what I would have to pay for the shares,
  • address2 : payment address provided by Namworld,
  • date : both a time limit for buyer payment and a protection against replay attack (for the seller).


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: souspeed on October 22, 2013, 08:32:00 PM
5 @ 0.653


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Landstander on October 23, 2013, 04:21:32 AM
20 @ 0.653


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: gyverlb on October 23, 2013, 07:57:00 PM
42 @ 0.66 same conditions than my previous bid


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on October 24, 2013, 11:16:47 PM
16 @ 0.661


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: dxxw on October 25, 2013, 04:59:40 AM
42 @ 0.662


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: BitCsByBit on October 25, 2013, 09:02:26 AM
42 @ 0.663

Let's see how long this auction goes for.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: souspeed on October 25, 2013, 11:36:13 AM
I was interested, but the auction settings provide a sure gain for the seller.

When the share price rises there will always be someone bidding close to the current price with a 48 hour time window.

And once the share price falls nobody will bid anymore, and the seller locks in the difference.
He can even opt to buy new shares for a lower price immediately and take the profit.

Smart auction of the seller, but I will never participate in an auction with these settings anymore.

If in a worst case scenario the share price falls with more then 50%, the winning bidder is obligated to watch his investment crumble and does not even have an option to react within these 48 hours.  ???


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on October 25, 2013, 06:16:00 PM
If in a worst case scenario the share price falls with more then 50%, the winning bidder is obligated to watch his investment crumble and does not even have an option to react within these 48 hours.  ???

If the share price were to suddenly drop more than 50% there's a good chance the winning bidder would disappear from the forums forever or come back a week or two later with some excuse saying they were kidnapped, arrested, in the hospital, or something.  Not saying I would condone that, just that it could happen.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: BitCsByBit on October 25, 2013, 11:37:09 PM
I'm still waiting for a signed message.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on October 26, 2013, 04:49:54 PM
1 @ .664


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: cyclops on October 26, 2013, 09:31:04 PM
1 @ .664


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on October 27, 2013, 08:54:31 PM
42@.665


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: cyclops on October 27, 2013, 10:49:00 PM
1@.666 Demon!


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: person on October 28, 2013, 04:28:44 PM
If in a worst case scenario the share price falls with more then 50%, the winning bidder is obligated to watch his investment crumble and does not even have an option to react within these 48 hours.  ???

If the share price were to suddenly drop more than 50% there's a good chance the winning bidder would disappear from the forums forever or come back a week or two later with some excuse saying they were kidnapped, arrested, in the hospital, or something.  Not saying I would condone that, just that it could happen.

Or you can just keep outbidding yourself forever, every 48h, to ensure the auction never ends...


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 28, 2013, 11:16:15 PM
The auction is over:


cyclops 1 @ 0.666
CanaryInTheMine 41 @ 0.665


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: BitCsByBit on October 28, 2013, 11:34:03 PM
The auction is over:


cyclops 1 @ 0.666
CanaryInTheMine 41 @ 0.665

WTF?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 28, 2013, 11:37:59 PM
The auction is over:


cyclops 1 @ 0.666
CanaryInTheMine 41 @ 0.665

WTF?

Ah, sorry, my bad. Somehow I was thinking 24h auction.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on October 28, 2013, 11:57:12 PM
Waiting for instructions... have contacted ThickAsThieves for escrow.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 29, 2013, 07:57:58 AM
Waiting for instructions... have contacted ThickAsThieves for escrow.

Yeah, sorry, looks like the auction is actually still going, hasn't been 48h since last bid. I said it was over after 24h.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: cyclops on October 29, 2013, 03:35:14 PM
There is no problem getting one share right? Neither transfer commissions or things like that?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: dexX7 on October 29, 2013, 03:39:49 PM
There is no problem getting one share right? Neither transfer commissions or things like that?

The last bid was on 27 October 2013, 22:49:00 UTC, if I'm not mistaken. This means this auction ends in 7:10 hours, if there is no new bid.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: cyclops on October 29, 2013, 04:08:17 PM
There is no problem getting one share right? Neither transfer commissions or things like that?

The last bid was on 27 October 2013, 22:49:00 UTC, if I'm not mistaken. This means this auction ends in 7:10 hours, if there is no new bid.

I know that, I want to get that info.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: cyclops on October 30, 2013, 06:23:29 AM
I withdraw my bid, sorry.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on October 30, 2013, 06:42:08 PM
what's up with this? seems like the auction has been over for quite some time and you also got a div payout after the auction ended of 0.0035336*42=0.1484112 on these 42 shares?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 30, 2013, 06:55:21 PM
what's up with this? seems like the auction has been over for quite some time and you also got a div payout after the auction ended of 0.0035336*42=0.1484112 on these 42 shares?

Sorry, I just have so much to do lately. As agreed in PM, you can take the share cyclops doesn't want to pay.

You can deduct this week's payment from your winning bid:
CanaryInTheMine 42 @ 0.665

42 x 0.665 = 27.93 BTC
27.93 - 0.1484112 = 27.7815888 BTC

27.7815888 BTC to be paid to 18CoGAeLJzwG3iLkBj1vARYDWW7eC7qUQ1

If you wish to wait for a signature for proof of ownership, please provide an email and address to give to friedcat. They will be included with payment instruction and transfer approval in signature.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on October 30, 2013, 08:27:35 PM
what's up with this? seems like the auction has been over for quite some time and you also got a div payout after the auction ended of 0.0035336*42=0.1484112 on these 42 shares?

Sorry, I just have so much to do lately. As agreed in PM, you can take the share cyclops doesn't want to pay.

You can deduct this week's payment from your winning bid:
CanaryInTheMine 42 @ 0.665

42 x 0.665 = 27.93 BTC
27.93 - 0.1484112 = 27.7815888 BTC

27.7815888 BTC to be paid to 18CoGAeLJzwG3iLkBj1vARYDWW7eC7qUQ1

If you wish to wait for a signature for proof of ownership, please provide an email and address to give to friedcat. They will be included with payment instruction and transfer approval in signature.

Thanks, I PMed TAT


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 30, 2013, 08:55:12 PM
Thanks, I PMed TAT

 ???

Ok, I'm kind of confused by that. Can you PM me your email + BTC address so I can make a signature for you from my BTC address?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on October 31, 2013, 06:24:33 PM
Thanks, I PMed TAT

 ???

Ok, I'm kind of confused by that. Can you PM me your email + BTC address so I can make a signature for you from my BTC address?
sent yesterday


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on October 31, 2013, 07:51:07 PM
Thanks, I PMed TAT

 ???

Ok, I'm kind of confused by that. Can you PM me your email + BTC address so I can make a signature for you from my BTC address?
sent yesterday

Sent you by PM a signed transfer authorization from my address holding AM shares.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on November 02, 2013, 12:06:23 AM
I have received payment and friedcat received a signed transfer authorization by PM. I asked him to confirm transfer in this thread.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on November 06, 2013, 10:01:40 PM
It appears CanaryInTheMine has received his transfer of shares. Confirmation and trust feedback would be appreciated.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on November 07, 2013, 12:15:39 AM
It appears CanaryInTheMine has received his transfer of shares. Confirmation and trust feedback would be appreciated.
maybe a dumb question, but how do I know they transferred? I have no email, PM etc...


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: Namworld on November 07, 2013, 12:36:31 AM
It appears CanaryInTheMine has received his transfer of shares. Confirmation and trust feedback would be appreciated.
maybe a dumb question, but how do I know they transferred? I have no email, PM etc...

Unless you were expecting direct shares from multiple sources, by checking the BTC payment from the ASICMINER address to the BTC address you provided. Friedcat only sent me a confirmation by PM.

You received a payment for 42 shares more on the 6th november than your payment on the 30th october.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] 42 ASICMINER direct shares
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on November 07, 2013, 06:36:03 PM
It appears CanaryInTheMine has received his transfer of shares. Confirmation and trust feedback would be appreciated.
maybe a dumb question, but how do I know they transferred? I have no email, PM etc...

Unless you were expecting direct shares from multiple sources, by checking the BTC payment from the ASICMINER address to the BTC address you provided. Friedcat only sent me a confirmation by PM.

You received a payment for 42 shares more on the 6th november than your payment on the 30th october.
Yes, I did. I'm used to seeing a message from fc (cc'ed) on transfer and didn't so wasn't sure if something changed over there... if you don't mind, plz forward it to the email addy I provided. Thanks!!