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Title: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 19, 2013, 03:07:31 PM
Dicenow.com is shutting down at the end of June. Please divest and withdraw all coins ASAP. Thank you for all your kind support and trust throughout these past 3 years. Good luck and may Bitcoin go To The Moon!







https://dicenow.com

https://i.imgur.com/OEBoxRQ.png

Hi, https://dicenow.com is looking for investors interested in bankrolling a new bitcoin and litecoin gambling site.
The app is designed from the ground up to work with multiple crypto-currencies, different house edges, and different types of games.

https://i.imgur.com/0FzqqzF.jpg

Here you can see players have the option to choose which currency and house edge to play with.
The higher the house edge, the higher the bankroll and max profit is.
As an investor, you can choose which house edge to invest in, so conservative investors can decrease their variance.

https://i.imgur.com/9aKvp18.png

There are stats like number of bets, wagered, and profit for each house.

https://i.imgur.com/iGkBmFG.jpg

You can even watch your investment grow along with the house profit in a realtime chart.

https://i.imgur.com/0p04pRz.jpg

Investing is easy. Just go to the invest page and choose your options.
The simple invest is recommended, as it will split your investment evenly between 1%, 2%, and 3% edges.
There are 3 options for your risk level (kelly criterion): conservative (1/4 kelly), balanced (1/2 kelly), and growth (1% full kelly).

https://i.imgur.com/aMKCGb3.jpg

There is also a custom investment option, where you can select a specific house to bankroll, and a custom kelly criterion.
The kellys available are: 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2x, 3x, 5x, and 10x. The leveraged kellys are ONLY for reduction of counter party risk.
If you use leveraged kelly without having the proper amount of offsite coins, you are risking ruin if a whale wins repeated max profit bets.

https://i.imgur.com/UZjZ65Lh.jpg

A handy portfolio list of all your active investments and inactive divested investments is available.
You can easily see details on your profit, commission, and other figures.

Commission is collected once a day at UTC midnight. The commission is 10% of any profits you make.
Once collected, your investment remembers that high water mark, and you won't pay commissions if your investment
drops and then rises back to that level. High water mark is per investment only, not per account.
This gives a slight incentive to stay invested for the long term and let math work things out.

https://i.imgur.com/LMKPgWz.jpg

We take precautions to secure the site, your account, and your coins. Two factor authentication is available for your use.
We use a cold wallet to store the majority of the coins offline.

https://i.imgur.com/8Bs0tVv.jpg

There is an emergency withdrawal address available. If you keep a large amount of coins onsite, please use it.
In the event of any emergency, all funds will be dispersed to their account emergency addresses.

https://i.imgur.com/fvvrdvX.jpg

There are a few different features that dicenow has that you should understand before bankrolling.
We have an official onsite bot that can run progression betting strategies like the martingale.

https://i.imgur.com/uQJJXUv.png

We also have an auto rabbit mode. This mode allows players to roll up to 10,000 rolls in one click.
Here you can see a classic martingale progression. This feature allows players to easily play progression
strategies with tiny amounts like 1 satoshi. They can easily win 4500 satoshis per click. It is unknown how
this feature will effect house profit. Math says it shouldn't change anything, but it remains to be seen.

https://i.imgur.com/MbXc0sF.png

Here you can see a 33% 'martingale'. The profit spikes up drastically on each win after a long string of losses.

https://i.imgur.com/fZUJdS6.png

The options are very complex, and players can customize the bet wager, chance, payout, or profit on each win/loss.
Here is a payout-gale, where on every loss you increase the payout (decrease chance) to cover your consecutive losses.

https://i.imgur.com/YkxzNFZ.jpg

Of course we are provably fair, and there is an offsite javascript verifier with roll generation code. http://jsfiddle.net/g6fP6/

https://i.imgur.com/vfLFM5L.jpg

You can watch all the exciting dice action in the all bets tab. Filter by userid or profit amount to see the bets you are interested in.

https://i.imgur.com/IXpV9gK.jpg

You can easily transfer coin onsite from user to user without any fees or blockchain transaction.

https://i.imgur.com/7wDnJDbh.jpg

Dicenow is very colorful. We feel that design is important in a dice site. There are 40 backgrounds to choose from so you don't get bored.

https://i.imgur.com/Or2AwaL.jpg

The chat feature includes multiple rooms, private messages, nickname notifications, and even desktop notifications (enabled in chrome).

If you have any questions feel free to post them here, or find me on the onsite chatroom. My name is pitboss

Thanks for reading!



Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 19, 2013, 03:13:42 PM
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Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Progressive on October 19, 2013, 03:19:22 PM
Nice first post with a lot of details. Following...


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: pedrog on October 19, 2013, 03:23:03 PM
Well, at least when it comes to design it's beautiful!

Congratulations!


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Rannasha on October 19, 2013, 03:48:29 PM
I like the features offered, but the design feels like it could give me a seizure at any moment. I didn't check all 40 backgrounds, but is there a "boring grey mode" for this site?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: utens on October 19, 2013, 03:49:49 PM
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Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 19, 2013, 05:05:19 PM
I like the features offered, but the design feels like it could give me a seizure at any moment. I didn't check all 40 backgrounds, but is there a "boring grey mode" for this site?

sorry to hear that. there are some very plain backgrounds with only a single color. click the up triangle at the bottom right corner to browse backgrounds visually


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: MPOE-PR on October 19, 2013, 05:30:12 PM
How about getting in the WoT (http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php)?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: imagereply on October 19, 2013, 06:10:05 PM
http://www.coffeewithanarchitect.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/trustme-600x600.png (http://www.coffeewithanarchitect.com/2013/05/20/the-people-who-dont-hire-me-dont-trust-me/)


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: pascal257 on October 19, 2013, 06:15:53 PM
How about getting in the WoT (http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php)?
Well he could have wasted time getting rep there. Instead he built a quite remarkable service, where he can proof his reliability.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Otoh on October 19, 2013, 06:32:47 PM
Impressive! Contacting you.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: TMAN on October 19, 2013, 07:50:32 PM
Nice site, I appreciate the effort so far. Before I contemplate investing, who are you and why should I trust you?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 19, 2013, 07:53:08 PM
Impressive! Contacting you.

Congratulations to otoh for being the first BTC and LTC investor!^^


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: somestranger on October 19, 2013, 07:57:18 PM
Very nice job on the design. I wonder how many dice games the economy can support, though. This market is getting awfully saturated.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 19, 2013, 07:59:33 PM
Nice site, I appreciate the effort so far. Before I contemplate investing, who are you and why should I trust you?

Thanks for reading TMAN. You have no reason to trust me, so I would suggest just waiting a while and seeing how the site does if you are afraid of being scammed.


Very nice job on the design. I wonder how many dice games the economy can support, though. This market is getting awfully saturated.

In the near term I plan on adding roulette, blackjack, and other games.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Oleander on October 19, 2013, 09:46:55 PM
Very nice!

I also find the backgrounds distracting... I'd like to either browse the backgrounds without the site widgets, or see the site widgets without the backgrounds.  Both at once is just too much.

As for market saturation, it is always possible to take market share away from the incumbents by out-innovating them.  This site is on the way to doing that.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Skinnkavaj on October 19, 2013, 09:50:18 PM
Some feedback..

I like all functions, make the site really cool. It's so advanced, I bet you have spent a lot of time working on this. Site is very slow and laggy though and this saddens me because I see huge potential for this. You beat Just-dice so easy if you spend some more time and make the site lagfree.
On the other hand, for a developer like you it cannot be hard to make the site lag free.

Two questions. What is the difference between robot and auto?
If I log out from the site, will the auto/robot script continue until I login again and press stop?
Also, why can I not see any bets? I click on all bets, nothing happen. I can see my bets though.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Otoh on October 19, 2013, 10:56:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/dqMKKHF.png

https://i.imgur.com/7qx5YqM.png

Sweet! Invested too. :P


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 19, 2013, 11:24:31 PM
Some feedback..

I like all functions, make the site really cool. It's so advanced, I bet you have spent a lot of time working on this. Site is very slow and laggy though and this saddens me because I see huge potential for this. You beat Just-dice so easy if you spend some more time and make the site lagfree.
On the other hand, for a developer like you it cannot be hard to make the site lag free.

Two questions. What is the difference between robot and auto?
If I log out from the site, will the auto/robot script continue until I login again and press stop?
Also, why can I not see any bets? I click on all bets, nothing happen. I can see my bets though.

I'm working on the lag problem. You can pause the background slider with the button at the bottom left corner.

Also avoid the 10000 rolls auto mode. It does 10k rolls at once, which will kill weak computers or tablets/phones.
The robot mode does the progression, but one bet at a time, sleeping 1 second between bets. It should be lag free.
Robot mode only lasts while your browser is open.

You can't see any bets because no one was betting most likely.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: claycoins on October 20, 2013, 12:15:42 AM
interesting site with lots of features.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: thy on October 20, 2013, 12:31:56 AM
Looks nice, interesing with many options both for gamblers and investors


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: galbros on October 20, 2013, 01:09:23 AM
The more I look at this site the more I like it.  Add me to the list of people who would like to be able to close or minimize the boxes to make the layout more clean and maybe less laggy.  However, I think your site is the only dice site that lets people invest litecoins.  That could be a real advantage over the other sites - if you have not already you should post in the litecoin talk forums.  Also having in game transfers between players is a nice feature.  Good Luck!


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 20, 2013, 03:10:35 AM
looks like a cool site.  biggest problem I have for now is just any reason to switch from to here from Douglas' site where I'm pretty confident he's not running away.  Really like what you've done with it though.  Wish I could be part of the background.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 20, 2013, 06:56:41 AM
https://i.imgur.com/spXWggi.png

We had our first whale at dicenow.com

User 1177 deposited 15 LTC, and managed to gamble up a profit of +25 to 40 LTC.
Then he lost all his gains with a failed 1,2,4,4 martingale follow by more losses.
He switched to a lower house edge and managed to gain another +15 LTC before
losing it all along with his initial deposit.
Exciting stuff!


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Skinnkavaj on October 20, 2013, 02:15:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/spXWggi.png

We had our first whale at dicenow.com

User 1177 deposited 15 LTC, and managed to gamble up a profit of +25 to 40 LTC.
Then he lost all his gains with a failed 1,2,4,4 martingale follow by more losses.
He switched to a lower house edge and managed to gain another +15 LTC before
losing it all along with his initial deposit.
Exciting stuff!
Whale with 40 LTC  ;D  :o


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: MPOE-PR on October 20, 2013, 03:37:27 PM
How about getting in the WoT (http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php)?
Well he could have wasted time getting rep there. Instead he built a quite remarkable service, where he can proof his reliability.

There is no "instead".


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: galbros on October 20, 2013, 10:03:46 PM
You may want to make more clear in your first post or in the site faq or in the investing boxes that the minimum investment is .1 btc.  I was hoping to get started with less than that and was foiled.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on October 20, 2013, 10:43:51 PM
I like the site, however horrible UX. Mismatched icons everywhere, button hitareas should never change in size, and the NSFW backgrounds (especially how it's featured prominently in advertising) turned me off.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Zaih on October 20, 2013, 11:17:17 PM
Smells like a scam.

Invest with caution...


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on October 21, 2013, 09:58:15 AM
I've gone through a bit of chat with the site admin. He is for sure a guy who really work unlike some others just build something and leave 'em all to the community to resolve.

......
the whole ui is going to be rewritten. i'm not really happy with it
marketing i will do once i have a bankroll that players can play with.
.....
Interface is marginal, a bit laggy too but thats what we can do  now is wait for him to get a nice update in the near future.

Also I've discovered that poetis could speaktype fluent Chinese and he is also planning on  doing some campaign towards the Chinese user.

As most JustDice user might know that clone dice from JD, named BTC-DICE. The owner identity is not shown, even to 796 where they issue their "stocks".
Quote
https://796.com/bd
Risk factor:
............
2. The holders of BTC-DICE.com offer the relevant equity formation information unilaterally, of which 796 Exchange isn’t making any legal check, nor does it guarantee its authenticity.
............
4. The holders of BTC-DICE.com don’t offer any legal certificates or instruments.
5. The issuer of BTC-DICE-796 doesn’t offer their address, phone number or any other information no other than email address: btcdice2013@gmail.com.

While they still get a stable userbase with about 50,000BTC wagered per week. With more than just a copy of something, I think DiceNow could potentially grab userbase in China.

PS: just the same from Just Dice, BTC-DICE users are eager for bunches of bots etc. Plus they got plenty of bugs..

No doubt that trust and the knowledge base toward Bitcoin is a big issue we have to consider. But comparing to the case of BTC-DICE, DiceNow might be more favourable to that BTC-DICE (BUG-DICE CopycatDice whatever) as they do pay some effort on it and they do innovate.

Oh and see when and what is the last update of JustDice! Changed the max profit and turned the deposit button to red when balance is 0..... And the advert things seems havent come true yet, neglecting the exchange ad to Bitbet.us

https://i.imgur.com/O731xJw.png
Good luck


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: superresistant on October 21, 2013, 10:13:49 AM
Very very good for a beginning.

However :
* Animations(*) are a bit annoying, perhaps you could allow to activate/inactivate them or change them.
* It is a great idea to put some NSFW background but not for everyone, you should allow people to activate/inactivate them AND inactivate them by default.

EDIT : (*)By Animations I mean the icons that turn round when you mouse-over it.



Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on October 21, 2013, 10:19:22 AM
Very very good for a beginning.

However :
* Animations are a bit annoying, perhaps you could allow to activate/inactivate them or change them.
* It is a great idea to put some NSFW background but not for everyone, you should allow people to activate/inactivate them AND inactivate them by default.


Press the pause button on bottom left :)


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: superresistant on October 21, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
Very very good for a beginning.
However :
* Animations are a bit annoying, perhaps you could allow to activate/inactivate them or change them.
* It is a great idea to put some NSFW background but not for everyone, you should allow people to activate/inactivate them AND inactivate them by default.
Press the pause button on bottom left :)

Thx for the tip, that's for the background but it doesn't stop the icons animation.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Otoh on October 21, 2013, 12:08:41 PM
There's now over 23 BTC & 3400 LTC invested on the bank roll.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 21, 2013, 03:52:23 PM
There's now over 23 BTC & 3400 LTC invested on the bank roll.

actually the bankrolls are cumulative, so you can't just add them up
it is roughly equal to the 3% house, so right now around 12 btc and 1700 ltc


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: kmtan on October 22, 2013, 12:14:02 AM
going to have a look at dicenow.com


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 22, 2013, 07:26:05 AM
https://i.imgur.com/QYEpkI8.png

daily stats on each house is now available under the invest tab.

its just temporary until i figure out a pretty way to organize the information

-poetis


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 23, 2013, 08:33:32 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Pj2NGMe.png

added a simple mode for that classic no frills gray look. no bg slideshow, no realtime chart

also slideshow is now off by default, and the bg bar at the bottom has been minimized for a cleaner look, but retains the same functionality if you wish to use it


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Otoh on October 23, 2013, 10:09:58 AM
Good to have the choice of a simple UI, here's the posts so far made on the Just-Dice invest thread about dicenow btw:

Looks like a new dice competitor with a slick design is now offering investors 1%, 2% or 3% house edge. Combined with leveraged investment with a kelly ranging from 0.25 to 10x.

Can we please get a custom kelly at least?  Being able to use leverage would reduce counterpart risk for investors, and would reduce the site owner from being a target of extortion/ransom/violence.

What's really amazing is that if you look at the number of bets and the amounts bet the 3% pool has a considerable amount of action.  I would not have thought this possible as it seems illogical why anyone would choose to shoot against a 3% house advantage rather than a 1% are higher limits really that attractive?

Dooglus, I know you keep an eye on the competition, but checking this out may be a worthy use of your time, there may be more of an opportunity for a higher house edge on JD than I would have thought.


Yep, plenty of innovation from DN (https://dicenow.com), doog any plans for JD to copy implement some of these features? Not talking about the anime backgrounds & UI animation btw.

Re ppl choosing 3% HE over 1% HE, there is a higher bank roll available to play for on the 2% & 3% HE so it may be that, especially on the first day or two - now there's more investment spread out over the 3 options, or maybe ppl were doing Martis which took them in to the higher HE range for larger bets after a few losses playing on lower HE %.

I played at 3% HE (https://i.imgur.com/dqMKKHF.png) right at the beginning as there wasn't much investment in then & max profit was like 1 ltc or something at 1% HE, now it's about 10 ltc at 1% HE & 100 ltc at 3% HE.

As neat as that site is, it boggles me that a 1-3% slider exists. A smart investor would just put money in the 1% because it gets far more play then 3%. regardless of the odds an investor gets a lot more investing 1 BTC in 1% with 1000 rolls than 1 BTC in 3% with 100 rolls. Not to mention JDs bank is significantly more than this site's. Unless a user wants to win thousands of BTC, why bother? especially since 99.99% of bets will be able to be covered by the usual 1%, it's a bad bet for investors anyway.

The BTC 3% has had 10.82 btc wagered so far, whereas the BTC 1% has had 0.68 btc wagered so far, therefor the 3% is actually getting far more play in money terms than the 1% atm.

With LTC it's about 1000 ltc wagered on 1% versus 500 ltc approx on 3%.

https://dicenow.com/#filter=.sitestats

If ppl wish to invest &/or bet in LTC it looks a good place for that & also the action for 3% HE BTC has brought investors by far the best return currently. They also have a simple UI option now instead of the anime.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: culexevilman on October 23, 2013, 01:31:19 PM
I spoke with the owner over phone, he is a guy how knows his shit...thats all I have to say... ;)


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: superresistant on October 23, 2013, 02:10:45 PM
Good update with the simple(simplified)/normal interface button.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 8fold on October 23, 2013, 08:15:04 PM
Ok, nice work so far, I've deposited some for fun.

I think there may be a bug in the way site commision from investments is calculated.

Made the first 2 investments, and after a little loss on both, I divested at a loss. Of course, no commission taken. So far so good.
Immediately after, I made another 2 investments, but this time, I divested at a profit. The site took it's commision, but it was 11.11%. instead of being less than 10% (because of previous investments that had a loss).

In other words, the site needs to take the commision from the final total profit. Taking full commision (and extra) from winning investments, and forgeting the losing investments, is not ok.

Here's the screenshot of the only investments:
http://quickmarkup-ja.s3.amazonaws.com/image/52682cc221f89?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIS3ZEGJJQNIY3THQ&Expires=1382563931&Signature=MrmwDr4hAvcckcjSqvbxv5pFIWE%3D


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 24, 2013, 03:44:33 AM
Ok, nice work so far, I've deposited some for fun.

I think there may be a bug in the way site commision from investments is calculated.

Made the first 2 investments, and after a little loss on both, I divested at a loss. Of course, no commission taken. So far so good.
Immediately after, I made another 2 investments, but this time, I divested at a profit. The site took it's commision, but it was 11.11%. instead of being less than 10% (because of previous investments that had a loss).

In other words, the site needs to take the commision from the final total profit. Taking full commision (and extra) from winning investments, and forgeting the losing investments, is not ok.

Here's the screenshot of the only investments:
http://quickmarkup-ja.s3.amazonaws.com/image/52682cc221f89?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIS3ZEGJJQNIY3THQ&Expires=1382563931&Signature=MrmwDr4hAvcckcjSqvbxv5pFIWE%3D

This is working as intended. If you divest at a loss, you lose the chance to gain back your loss at a commission free rate. This is intended to discourage 'daytrading' the bankroll, which is taxing on server resources and adds volatility for passive investors. If i get too many complaints then I made change the system, but that is how it works right now.

https://i.imgur.com/c1pWStc.png


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 8fold on October 24, 2013, 03:57:07 AM

http://quickmarkup-ja.s3.amazonaws.com/image/52682cc221f89?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIS3ZEGJJQNIY3THQ&Expires=1382563931&Signature=MrmwDr4hAvcckcjSqvbxv5pFIWE%3D

This is working as intended. If you divest at a loss, you lose the chance to gain back your loss at a commission free rate. This is intended to discourage 'daytrading' the bankroll, which is taxing on server resources and adds volatility for passive investors. If i get too many complaints then I made change the system, but that is how it works right now.

https://i.imgur.com/c1pWStc.png

I understand about the per investment commision calculation. I haven't read the terms. I understand the reason behind it and I actually agree with you.

About the 11.11%, I was under the impression that the figure there was the GROSS profit (the amount before commission is taken). Instead you are showing the NET profit (after taxation/commission). It is ok again, it's just that it could say 'net profit' in the table header for clarity.


Everything clear now. Thank you.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: nrd525 on October 24, 2013, 05:26:18 AM
You need a way to close the chat window.  Apparently exit, bye, quit and help do nothing.  There is a icon to do this, but it only appears sporadically (maybe I had to mouse-over something to get it?).  A permanent "X" or "close" link would be great.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: nrd525 on October 24, 2013, 05:31:00 AM
Capitalizing the first letter of a word is good for usability.
I love colors, but you've got overkill.  A good design is less noisy.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: superresistant on October 24, 2013, 07:55:41 PM
Offline ?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 8fold on October 24, 2013, 10:10:38 PM
For more than 12h now. Not a good start.  :)
Let's hope it will be back soon enough.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: rdponticelli on October 24, 2013, 10:23:28 PM
It has been working for me the whole time.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 8fold on October 24, 2013, 10:35:59 PM
Running now.
EDIT: Still having problems. Frontend loaded, but it couldn't connect to the server data.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 24, 2013, 11:57:35 PM
Offline ?

Running now.
EDIT: Still having problems. Frontend loaded, but it couldn't connect to the server data.

Someone has been continuously botting for the past 5 hours, and my client has stayed connected watching them.

Can you give me any error messages you received?

There was an attempt at ddos yesterday, so I took some mitigating measures.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 8fold on October 25, 2013, 03:52:58 AM
It just doesn't load "website". On two different computers, different browsers (firefox and chrome), different OS, different internet providers.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: superresistant on October 25, 2013, 08:33:31 AM
It is working well now.

The website need a ddos protection.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Bitsandbits on October 25, 2013, 05:26:27 PM
I love the win8 look, sets it apart from the comp


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on October 26, 2013, 06:46:37 PM
Got a bit of relatively big player today, won some with my highly leveraged investments :)


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: nrd525 on October 26, 2013, 08:34:01 PM
So if there were very big bets, say by a "whale", ultimately you approach two scenarios if you allow the user to win 100% of the pool
1) the whale loses the bet, you as the investor make 190% return  (50.5% probability with a 1% edge)
2) the whale wins the bet - you make a 0% return.  (49.5% probability with a 1% edge)
Then the expected return - is roughly 95.95% of your money. 

Obviously an extreme case, but what would the math look like for a 1% or 0.5% max bet?

I'm pointing out the disadvantages to investors of having the commission taken away from them BEFORE they cash in their winnings. You could easily, especially in the early stages of a site when it has little bankroll, have your profit go up 100%, pay a 10% commission, and then have your investment go back below what you put in - in which case you are facing a 10% loss (commission) plus the additional loss from betting.

This is compounded if you do it daily.

The problem is lessened if you assume the website will operate for a longtime and will be profitable in the longterm (though this is something that just-dice hasn't always been).

I'm not sure what is fair, because the website operator needs a more standard flow of income than the investors do.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: jonsi on October 27, 2013, 01:21:38 PM
Why does it have to be "return to base after win or after loss"? I don't want to return to base.
Is it possible to do different things (ex: change payout) after win and loss?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Skinnkavaj on October 28, 2013, 12:56:23 AM
I have been invested now since start of the site.
Is it better for me to divest sometimes or should I keep being invested all the time to maximize profit?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 29, 2013, 09:16:16 AM
I have been invested now since start of the site.
Is it better for me to divest sometimes or should I keep being invested all the time to maximize profit?

nobody knows because the evaluation of a 'better investment' comes from if there is profit or not, and that depends on the luck of players.

the math for +EV only works in the long term, with enough players and wagered.

investing and divesting often is similar to gambling however, so if you play that game you might as well just gamble and be able to control the bets.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on October 29, 2013, 09:58:08 AM
I have been invested now since start of the site.
Is it better for me to divest sometimes or should I keep being invested all the time to maximize profit?

The expected profit grows along for longer you stay. But really, no one really knows the outcome and you shall not expect your profit to be linear and growth steadily.
Investing comes with risk, and often time the risk is more or less in proportion to the return. Good Luck

A friend who leveraged his investment 10x
https://i.imgur.com/eYXamdw.png

Me
https://i.imgur.com/RrjbDhj.png

PS: whales are flippin, dont invest what you can't afford to lose.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 30, 2013, 08:00:48 AM
https://i.imgur.com/V7Dbgm4.png

losing? np just yolo it ...

https://i.imgur.com/wuCs8V8.png

this message brought to you by kasog


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on October 31, 2013, 02:18:52 AM
Dicenow is proudly providing support to Chinese user with a quite accurate translation updated. He is working on a new interface At the moment

(targeting BTC-DICE customer, their wager per week is ~ 30000BTC :P )
Advertising is planning :)


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on October 31, 2013, 06:33:35 AM
starting with only 100ltc, ltcwin gambled up to 500ltc before losing it all

https://i.imgur.com/c221IcL.png

https://i.imgur.com/zKm6F7F.png


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: superresistant on October 31, 2013, 06:53:47 AM
Dicenow is proudly providing support to Chinese user with a quite accurate translation updated. He is working on a new interface At the moment
(targeting BTC-DICE customer, their wager per week is ~ 30000BTC :P )
Advertising is planning :)

Targeting Chinese is the best thing to do. They have much more money, they spend much more and they are addicted to gambling.
China has recently become the number 1 country for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: b!z on October 31, 2013, 09:10:28 AM
New dicenow review: http://bitcoinreviewer.com/dice/dicenow-review/

Great for investors to see what players think about the website.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on October 31, 2013, 10:13:18 AM
Targeting Chinese is the best thing to do. They have much more money, they spend much more and they are addicted to gambling.
China has recently become the number 1 country for Bitcoin.
https://i.imgur.com/Q8zeuul.png


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on November 01, 2013, 11:04:57 AM
2386 lost 125 ltc

https://i.imgur.com/1CYNnwb.png

https://i.imgur.com/9NBXU4t.png

1535 won 2 btc

https://i.imgur.com/nUs1dje.png


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on November 02, 2013, 10:57:24 AM
https://i.imgur.com/hVgtN1H.png

jasper was up 1btc yesterday, but had some bad luck today  :(


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on November 02, 2013, 12:58:51 PM
Congratz on all Litecoin Investors. after the raid to the LTC pot a few days ago down to -300 LTC, while Just now, a guy who was betting 1.15x with litecoin brought the house a flip from negative to positive, with now 300LTC profit.

Just a nice tip for every investor, both LTC and BTC, here is a quote from the movie Sweeney Todd. A sentence from Mrs. Lovett.
https://i.imgur.com/kBRN7Du.png

(Sorry for you who divested in the bottom.... my friend....)


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on November 07, 2013, 11:30:34 AM
I saw an ad of DiceNow while I was arbing Litcoins on MCXNOW. Good move Dicenow :) Nice place to get LTC guys in!


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on November 08, 2013, 07:02:08 AM
https://i.imgur.com/csLrRHu.png

investors: dicenow is the only place you can get positive 3% expected value
i don't know why, but it happens  8)


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on November 10, 2013, 01:13:50 PM
Free bump with a funny image. Chinese are gamblers

https://i.imgur.com/sXQd5Lk.png


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on November 10, 2013, 03:48:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7ILswTX.png

ltc houses were devestated by elbill to the tune of 1100 ltc


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 8fold on November 10, 2013, 07:46:31 PM
This means more spotlight on the site. More players, more action!


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Otoh on November 10, 2013, 10:38:21 PM
bad elbill :'( still I think many medium sized players will win a lot & then a whale or three will come along and even it out by losing a ton, I hope :-\


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: lucaspm98 on November 14, 2013, 01:16:54 AM
Love the site, definitely has a lot of potential. I will be increasing my investments here, and I was wondering if the 1% edge or 3% edge is a better investment. I'm not great with math but to me it seems like the 3% edge seems like the obvious choice, but the 1% edge has many times more bets so it actually surpasses the 3% edge most of the time. Is this correct reasoning? For now, I will split my investments evenly.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on November 14, 2013, 01:20:25 AM
Love the site, definitely has a lot of potential. I will be increasing my investments here, and I was wondering if the 1% edge or 3% edge is a better investment. I'm not great with math but to me it seems like the 3% edge seems like the obvious choice, but the 1% edge has many times more bets so it actually surpasses the 3% edge most of the time. Is this correct reasoning? For now, I will split my investments evenly.
Yes you are right, the volume of bet really counts in.
Secondly, when big bets come in 3%, it will overflow to 1%, for example when there is a guy bet 3BTC in 3 (assume max profit is 3BTC and every pot got a max profit of 1BTC), then the risk will be spread within three houses. So even if you are in 1% pot, 3% bets if they are big enough. They will get into your pot.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: lucaspm98 on November 14, 2013, 02:39:53 AM
Love the site, definitely has a lot of potential. I will be increasing my investments here, and I was wondering if the 1% edge or 3% edge is a better investment. I'm not great with math but to me it seems like the 3% edge seems like the obvious choice, but the 1% edge has many times more bets so it actually surpasses the 3% edge most of the time. Is this correct reasoning? For now, I will split my investments evenly.
Yes you are right, the volume of bet really counts in.
Secondly, when big bets come in 3%, it will overflow to 1%, for example when there is a guy bet 3BTC in 3 (assume max profit is 3BTC and every pot got a max profit of 1BTC), then the risk will be spread within three houses. So even if you are in 1% pot, 3% bets if they are big enough. They will get into your pot.
Thanks for the clarification I think I will move the majority of my investment in 1%.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on November 16, 2013, 10:35:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/N4lE4Us.png

jobe taking ltc for a roller coaster ride ;D
starting with 100, went up to 400 before imploding


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on November 19, 2013, 03:10:48 PM
https://i.imgur.com/bnhCtsI.png

finally villiva busted a sequence for once. no need to feel sorry for him, he is still up 450+ ltc


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: hasher87 on November 20, 2013, 03:55:21 AM
out of all hi/lo game, this is probably one of the best due to the fact that there's a robot (10,000 rolls per click!!) that can set up your strategy variance, as well as the free coin that we can used to utilise to find which strategy are good to use

but other than that, hoping to see a performance fixed on that as well, even simple sometimes it slows down the browser. probably the betting history i guess


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dragin33 on November 21, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
Users of bitcoin websites inputs.io and coinlenders recently lost millions of dollars worth of BTC due to the fact that the website operator apparently lied about storing a majority of funds in a cold wallet (either that or he was severely negligent) and a hacker broke in and stole the hot wallet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328053.0

Your OP says you use a cold wallet but so did inputs.  What protections, specifically, do you use to protect against a hack?  Exactly what percent of funds is stored in a cold wallet?  Do you know what a cold wallet actually is and how to securely use it? (no offence - just burned by inputs.io.)  What is the exact BTC address of your hot and cold wallet (blockchain.info links?) so that investors can monitor this?

If a the hot wallet is hacked, what are the expectations for investors as far as how much money is expected to be returned to investors after the hack?


Having said all that - the site looks nice and I like all the options you've given to both investors and gamblers.  Thanks in advance for answering these questions.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 8fold on November 21, 2013, 10:19:29 PM
out of all hi/lo game, this is probably one of the best due to the fact that there's a robot (10,000 rolls per click!!) that can set up your strategy variance, as well as the free coin that we can used to utilise to find which strategy are good to use

but other than that, hoping to see a performance fixed on that as well, even simple sometimes it slows down the browser. probably the betting history i guess
+1

Your OP says you use a cold wallet but so did inputs.  What protections, specifically, do you use to protect against a hack?  Exactly what percent of funds is stored in a cold wallet?  Do you know what a cold wallet actually is and how to securely use it? (no offence - just burned by inputs.io.)  What is the exact BTC address of your hot and cold wallet (blockchain.info links?) so that investors can monitor this?
+1


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on November 22, 2013, 12:45:16 PM
Users of bitcoin websites inputs.io and coinlenders recently lost millions of dollars worth of BTC due to the fact that the website operator apparently lied about storing a majority of funds in a cold wallet (either that or he was severely negligent) and a hacker broke in and stole the hot wallet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328053.0

Your OP says you use a cold wallet but so did inputs.  What protections, specifically, do you use to protect against a hack?  Exactly what percent of funds is stored in a cold wallet?  Do you know what a cold wallet actually is and how to securely use it? (no offence - just burned by inputs.io.)  What is the exact BTC address of your hot and cold wallet (blockchain.info links?) so that investors can monitor this?

If a the hot wallet is hacked, what are the expectations for investors as far as how much money is expected to be returned to investors after the hack?


Having said all that - the site looks nice and I like all the options you've given to both investors and gamblers.  Thanks in advance for answering these questions.

the server holding the hot wallet requires standard ssh security to access.
1-2 btc / 50-100 ltc is kept in the hot wallets. if they go over that amount, anything over 1btc / 50ltc is swept to the cold wallet
i use armory and bitcoind to handle the hot/cold wallets
if the hotwallets are hacked, at risk would be up to 1.2% of btc funds, and 0.5% of ltc funds. i could cover that amount out of my personal funds, so investors would take no haircut
this assumes they are hacked anytime other than the 30 seconds after a large deposit is made and before it is swept to the cold wallet. otherwise at risk is the above amount plus whatever the large deposit was

http://block-explorer.com/address/LeBfHHYQ4KaNVLDQkyHydJckuqLQUBsGFi
https://blockchain.info/address/1JM1B87N8ajLhoCwZMuEnGHnBsgZb3acKN
house bankrolls are cumulative, so the amount in the 3% houses should closely track what is in the cold wallets

let me know if you have other questions


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dragin33 on November 22, 2013, 07:11:14 PM
https://blockchain.info/address/1JM1B87N8ajLhoCwZMuEnGHnBsgZb3acKN

Thanks for the info.  Is this the hot or cold wallet?  What is the address for the other?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on November 23, 2013, 04:59:21 AM
https://blockchain.info/address/1JM1B87N8ajLhoCwZMuEnGHnBsgZb3acKN

Thanks for the info.  Is this the hot or cold wallet?  What is the address for the other?

that is the cold. the hotwallet doesnt have one set address since all users get their own disposable deposit addresses that bitcoind creates on the fly.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on November 29, 2013, 02:40:05 AM
https://i.imgur.com/PKqlWXY.png

lucas had some bad luck


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on November 30, 2013, 07:43:35 AM
Wow, seems the BTC house had been increased quite a lot got some profit  ;D


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on December 13, 2013, 10:57:57 AM
bump


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: ahbartsch on December 13, 2013, 05:09:48 PM
Have you thought about adding Peercoin?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: SebastianJu on December 15, 2013, 01:18:23 AM
There's now over 23 BTC & 3400 LTC invested on the bank roll.

actually the bankrolls are cumulative, so you can't just add them up
it is roughly equal to the 3% house, so right now around 12 btc and 1700 ltc

I found that my investment was split but i would prefer to play with my investment in all percents. I mean the full investment plays in all bets. It looks like at the moment i only can chose to spread them about all percents or put them directly to a percent. But this way i always lose games or a big part of my investment isnt playing.

Could you give the possibility to play with the full amount at all percents?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: SebastianJu on December 18, 2013, 08:25:20 PM
Is there a chance for change? I would like my full investment play all possible games, not one third for each percent?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Timetwister on December 23, 2013, 01:39:26 PM
Why does wagered change so much from one day to another? On the 19th and 20th 0BTC were bet, while there have been days when 300BTC were wagered.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: SebastianJu on December 25, 2013, 12:40:57 AM
Why does wagered change so much from one day to another? On the 19th and 20th 0BTC were bet, while there have been days when 300BTC were wagered.

Nearly no players?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Timetwister on December 26, 2013, 01:02:50 PM
How often does profit from my investments update? I have the same for like 3 days.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: SebastianJu on December 26, 2013, 05:37:06 PM
How often does profit from my investments update? I have the same for like 3 days.

I believe it changes instantly.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Timetwister on December 26, 2013, 05:52:47 PM
How often does profit from my investments update? I have the same for like 3 days.

I believe it changes instantly.

You are right, I have found it at Invest: My investments.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: twentyseventy on December 26, 2013, 08:57:10 PM
I do like the interface, even if it is a bit slow; I definitely like the multiple kelly options, as well as the 1,2,3% edge options. It looks like LTC has more volume than BTC and that 1/3% edge have more volume than 2% do.

I'm going to invest a bit now spread across BTC and LTC and in the 1% and 3% houses. I'd prefer to put everything in LTC, as it has more volume, but I don't want to take too much exchange risk from BTC/LTC.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Timetwister on December 27, 2013, 06:08:20 PM
Are there any other business with the same investment system as Dice Now and Just Dice?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: twentyseventy on December 27, 2013, 09:31:09 PM
Are there any other business with the same investment system as Dice Now and Just Dice?

Yes, there are a few others such as Nakowa's site (Forget the name) and dicelead.com.

Dicenow, what are the current plans for advertising to Chinese and other players? The site is great but volume is needed.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Timetwister on December 27, 2013, 09:48:51 PM
Are there any other business with the same investment system as Dice Now and Just Dice?

Yes, there are a few others such as Nakowa's site (Forget the name) and dicelead.com.

Dicenow, what are the current plans for advertising to Chinese and other players? The site is great but volume is needed.

Do you mean https://letsdice.com/? I don't see any "invest" option.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: twentyseventy on December 27, 2013, 09:53:11 PM
Are there any other business with the same investment system as Dice Now and Just Dice?

Yes, there are a few others such as Nakowa's site (Forget the name) and dicelead.com.

Dicenow, what are the current plans for advertising to Chinese and other players? The site is great but volume is needed.

Do you mean https://letsdice.com/? I don't see any "invest" option.

That's the one; actually the founder(s) bought out all of the investors in the site a few weeks ago. Forgot about that, sorry-


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Timetwister on December 27, 2013, 10:00:09 PM
Dicelead doesn't seem to work very well. I have also found bit365, but also very bad reviews and many complains about them.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on December 28, 2013, 02:13:38 PM
I found that my investment was split but i would prefer to play with my investment in all percents. I mean the full investment plays in all bets. It looks like at the moment i only can chose to spread them about all percents or put them directly to a percent. But this way i always lose games or a big part of my investment isnt playing.

Could you give the possibility to play with the full amount at all percents?

an investment can only be associated with one house at a time, since large bets at the highest edge will also dip into the lower house edges.
the way you can get around this, is to use leverage on each individual investment.
there really isnt a concept of 'full investment', since you choose how much % you want to risk.
put 1/3 in each house, then jack up the kelly to 3 times what you wanted.
essentially that replicates the same investment strategy you mentioned.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: SebastianJu on December 29, 2013, 07:08:57 PM
Could the stats be adjusted? The site stats show only a hour which doesnt bring any info. I think the stats timeframe has to be adjustable for months maybe.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on January 03, 2014, 01:02:28 PM
Could the stats be adjusted? The site stats show only a hour which doesnt bring any info. I think the stats timeframe has to be adjustable for months maybe.
From what i have heard, until the next major update, the status will polled in a long time or user have to fetch (refresh) the page again to grab it.

3% pot had a big growth >.< gonna be exciting


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: SebastianJu on January 07, 2014, 02:23:37 AM
Why is it that i can have a negative profit for investments but a positive comission is there? Sounds like all wins are commissioned but losses arent taken into account. If so wouldnt that mean more than 10% commission will happen? Wouldnt it be better to take commission when its divested? I mean when you run a trade shop and you only tell the tax agency all your income but not your losses you will go bankrupt.
Maybe i misinterpret but it looks strange.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on January 07, 2014, 04:02:12 AM
I think is logical for the owner of the website as if someone dont divest for a very long time, the site will have to starve. In this case in your context, the site will "reinvest" aka take commision every day.

Really hope for the next version of DiceNow. I saw some planning of him and I guess it would be nice. Esp with more people to play with.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: SebastianJu on January 07, 2014, 10:35:32 PM
I think is logical for the owner of the website as if someone dont divest for a very long time, the site will have to starve. In this case in your context, the site will "reinvest" aka take commision every day.

Really hope for the next version of DiceNow. I saw some planning of him and I guess it would be nice. Esp with more people to play with.

I understand that but if its done constantly then its not 10% commission anymore. If you profit this way:
+1
+2
-2
+2
+1
-1

then you have 3 profit at the end. But you made 6 profits on the way and would pay 20% commission that way. Either i misinterpret it or theres an error included since the more it goes up and down the higher the commission would go.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on January 08, 2014, 02:41:01 PM
no the site keeps track of your investment's high water mark, which is the highest profit you ever had, and only takes commission daily on anything higher than that. then it sets the new high water market to the newest level. you will never pay the same commission for profit after a loss.

the reason your investment was negative, but there was a commission taken, was probably because there was a profit and a day passed in which commission was levied. then the next day someone came and won back the money from your investment, so you are negative. it works the same as JD except instead of weekly sunday, it is every day midnight utc time.

I think is logical for the owner of the website as if someone dont divest for a very long time, the site will have to starve. In this case in your context, the site will "reinvest" aka take commision every day.

Really hope for the next version of DiceNow. I saw some planning of him and I guess it would be nice. Esp with more people to play with.

I understand that but if its done constantly then its not 10% commission anymore. If you profit this way:
+1
+2
-2
+2
+1
-1

then you have 3 profit at the end. But you made 6 profits on the way and would pay 20% commission that way. Either i misinterpret it or theres an error included since the more it goes up and down the higher the commission would go.



Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Skinnkavaj on February 24, 2014, 04:04:30 AM
Really wish this site wasn't so laggy or else I would use i more.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: superresistant on February 24, 2014, 09:39:29 AM
Really wish this site wasn't so laggy or else I would use i more.

I would remove ALL animations & images.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Otoh on February 24, 2014, 11:12:53 AM
Really wish this site wasn't so laggy or else I would use i more.

I would remove ALL animations & images.

Clicking the 'simple' option at top right of screen should help, there's still a little animation of logos but minimal & no background images.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: superresistant on February 24, 2014, 11:18:14 AM
Really wish this site wasn't so laggy or else I would use i more.
I would remove ALL animations & images.
Clicking the 'simple' option at top right of screen should help.

It doesn't remove anything. It put a mask on top of the background image, you can see it when changing the zoom page.
The silly animations (turning icons) are still everywhere.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Otoh on February 24, 2014, 11:21:29 AM
Really wish this site wasn't so laggy or else I would use i more.
I would remove ALL animations & images.
Clicking the 'simple' option at top right of screen should help.

It doesn't remove anything. It put a mask on top of the background image, you can see it when changing the zoom page.
The silly animations (turning icons) are still everywhere.

Ah OK, the spinning icons don't improve the site imo, it's kind of different though so why not I guess, maybe it appeals to the gambling guys & encourages them to keep punting, but I do like the background images.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on February 28, 2014, 05:06:24 PM
in light of the mtgox fiasco, here are dicenow's updated depositor balances on the blockchain

177.53084565 BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/1FY3J5Zuh7mp7q47brqr4wHUsUTeVLT8hb

17,187.70863835 LTC
http://block-explorer.com/address/LWpmqHp1JSpTsnyJkJD2oS4mY7skkaLbxu


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: BenAnh on March 28, 2014, 04:05:32 AM
in light of the mtgox fiasco, here are dicenow's updated depositor balances on the blockchain

177.53084565 BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/1FY3J5Zuh7mp7q47brqr4wHUsUTeVLT8hb

17,187.70863835 LTC
http://block-explorer.com/address/LWpmqHp1JSpTsnyJkJD2oS4mY7skkaLbxu
Probably need an update on the progress of the new release or no release at all?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: boumalo on April 06, 2014, 01:35:21 AM
Are there any other business with the same investment system as Dice Now and Just Dice?

if it is legal in your country, there are EveryDice (link in signature), just-dice and other that you can find in the gambling section


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: AtomicStrike on April 09, 2014, 06:29:03 AM
dicenow
Hello! Today two accounts (my 13773 and my wife 14532) was hacked and all bitcoins was withdrawed to 1NHQEzpernPm4BKh1E3P1Sh4Bn4YA6bXy6
Passwords not changed, 2fa is on. How can this happens? Can you help me to understand what is going on?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on April 09, 2014, 09:03:19 AM
dicenow
Hello! Today two accounts (my 13773 and my wife 14532) was hacked and all bitcoins was withdrawed to 1NHQEzpernPm4BKh1E3P1Sh4Bn4YA6bXy6
Passwords not changed, 2fa is on. How can this happens? Can you help me to understand what is going on?

those two accounts have been accessed by various ips which are tor exits

it should be impossible that anyone can login to your accounts besides yourself, since you have 2fa enabled.

nevertheless, i am bringing the server down to investigate, and make sure it is fully patched security wise.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on April 09, 2014, 12:03:22 PM
we are now fully patched for the openssl heartbleed bug.
all previous remembered login cookies have been invalidated,
so you will need to relogin to access your old account.


http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/#dicenow.com
https://i.imgur.com/Ez7obV5.png


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: theskillzdatklls on April 09, 2014, 12:54:13 PM
I don't fully understand the 1,2,3% bankrolls.  You can invest in each one separately or can you invest one bitcoin and have it apply to all?  Secondly, what is the benefit to the gamblers? Larger max profit?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: superresistant on April 10, 2014, 01:15:18 PM
dicenow
Hello! Today two accounts (my 13773 and my wife 14532) was hacked and all bitcoins was withdrawed to 1NHQEzpernPm4BKh1E3P1Sh4Bn4YA6bXy6
Passwords not changed, 2fa is on. How can this happens? Can you help me to understand what is going on?

Man in the middle attack.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: AtomicStrike on April 10, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
dicenow
Hello! Today two accounts (my 13773 and my wife 14532) was hacked and all bitcoins was withdrawed to 1NHQEzpernPm4BKh1E3P1Sh4Bn4YA6bXy6
Passwords not changed, 2fa is on. How can this happens? Can you help me to understand what is going on?
Man in the middle attack.
Support tell me, that my accounts was accessed from unfamiliar IP, but how can it be with 2fa on I don't understand.
The only one my mistake, the passwords was same on both accounts. But accounts was on different PC's and with different providers. e-mails was different too.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: BenAnh on April 11, 2014, 01:19:05 AM
I like 10,000 rolls per click or 1M rolls, can this be done?


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: superresistant on April 22, 2014, 09:29:27 PM
dicenow
Hello! Today two accounts (my 13773 and my wife 14532) was hacked and all bitcoins was withdrawed to 1NHQEzpernPm4BKh1E3P1Sh4Bn4YA6bXy6
Passwords not changed, 2fa is on. How can this happens? Can you help me to understand what is going on?
Man in the middle attack.
Support tell me, that my accounts was accessed from unfamiliar IP, but how can it be with 2fa on I don't understand.
The only one my mistake, the passwords was same on both accounts. But accounts was on different PC's and with different providers. e-mails was different too.


In the case of a man-in-the-middle attack, the hacker steal your logged-session which is valid for an hour or more.
The only way to protect from this kind of attack is to enable an automatic-logout-on-IP-change but I almost never saw it.
Even if it exist, the hacker can spoof your IP so yeah you can't do much...

It is quite a high level hacking IMO unless you computer is full of trojans.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: AcoinL.L.C on April 23, 2014, 04:33:35 AM
Add blackcoin as a currency option and I will invest  ;D


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Otoh on April 23, 2014, 12:32:14 PM
Add blackcoin as a currency option and I will invest  ;D

+1, BC would be good on this site, I'd invest a fair few.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: boumalo on April 23, 2014, 01:04:05 PM
dicenow
Hello! Today two accounts (my 13773 and my wife 14532) was hacked and all bitcoins was withdrawed to 1NHQEzpernPm4BKh1E3P1Sh4Bn4YA6bXy6
Passwords not changed, 2fa is on. How can this happens? Can you help me to understand what is going on?
Man in the middle attack.
Support tell me, that my accounts was accessed from unfamiliar IP, but how can it be with 2fa on I don't understand.
The only one my mistake, the passwords was same on both accounts. But accounts was on different PC's and with different providers. e-mails was different too.


In the case of a man-in-the-middle attack, the hacker steal your logged-session which is valid for an hour or more.
The only way to protect from this kind of attack is to enable an automatic-logout-on-IP-change but I almost never saw it.
Even if it exist, the hacker can spoof your IP so yeah you can't do much...

It is quite a high level hacking IMO unless you computer is full of trojans.


That is a way for someone to access your account protected by f2a; getting your f2a back up is an other way

If each withdrawal is protected by f2a he won't be able to withdraw even if he got access to your account stealing your logged-session


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on May 22, 2014, 03:14:45 PM
Site will be down for ~6 hours this Friday May 23 starting 9AM and ending around 3-4PM Pacific Standard Time.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

Edit: Whoops actually it is Friday May 23, not Saturday.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: Otoh on May 22, 2014, 05:20:12 PM
Forget the request to add BC, but please to consider adding Darkcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615879.msg6814190#msg6814190)

With it's emphasis on anonymity it would be a very good match IMO.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: arctos on May 23, 2014, 02:48:31 AM
Become the cryptsy of dicers, start adding every frickin coin possible. Sounds like an excellent business scheme to me


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: twentyseventy on May 23, 2014, 03:13:12 AM
Become the cryptsy of dicers, start adding every frickin coin possible. Sounds like an excellent business scheme to me

You've got to have houses backing all of the currencies, however.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: arctos on May 23, 2014, 11:13:34 PM
Build it and they will come. Sounds like the easy part of the problem


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on May 24, 2014, 03:10:11 AM
https://i.imgur.com/vxlRK1A.png

XD


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: boumalo on May 28, 2014, 05:57:04 PM
DN seemed a bit sketchy and ED seemed like a better bet, it turns out DN has been growing steadily and hasn't shut down when ED is probably finished; I wonder what would happen if DN lost a lot to a player though


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: stryker0695 on May 31, 2014, 06:17:15 AM
What does "10,000 rolls per click mean?"


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: boumalo on June 06, 2014, 07:56:27 PM
What does "10,000 rolls per click mean?"

I guess the computer simulates 10,000rolls and gives u the result instantly

You can ask to bet 1satoshi and x2 if you lose but return to 1 if you win; it will do i t 10,000times in an instant and gives you the result : +5000 or you don't have enough to make the last bet


nice


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on June 07, 2014, 04:09:04 AM
What does "10,000 rolls per click mean?"

You can pre-program a bot on dicenow and it will roll it for you. The bot supports up to 10k iteration for 1 click you made. Try it with  free coins :)


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on June 25, 2014, 03:21:18 PM
What does "10,000 rolls per click mean?"

You can pre-program a bot on dicenow and it will roll it for you. The bot supports up to 10k iteration for 1 click you made. Try it with  free coins :)

yes this is one of our more unique features.
it is inspired by ggdice


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on July 09, 2014, 04:04:32 PM
seems this ship is finally getting slightly... slightly more active with a few more guys betting.....


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: conspirosphere.tk on August 06, 2014, 05:20:07 PM
site is down


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: bbbbbb2014 on September 10, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
dicenow
Hello! Today two accounts (my 13773 and my wife 14532) was hacked and all bitcoins was withdrawed to 1NHQEzpernPm4BKh1E3P1Sh4Bn4YA6bXy6
Passwords not changed, 2fa is on. How can this happens? Can you help me to understand what is going on?
Man in the middle attack.
Support tell me, that my accounts was accessed from unfamiliar IP, but how can it be with 2fa on I don't understand.
The only one my mistake, the passwords was same on both accounts. But accounts was on different PC's and with different providers. e-mails was different too.


In the case of a man-in-the-middle attack, the hacker steal your logged-session which is valid for an hour or more.
The only way to protect from this kind of attack is to enable an automatic-logout-on-IP-change but I almost never saw it.
Even if it exist, the hacker can spoof your IP so yeah you can't do much...

It is quite a high level hacking IMO unless you computer is full of trojans.


Don't spread bullshit. Accounts were accessed from some foreign IPs. Sessions are https - so encrypted. But even so, fund withdrawing should not be possible, without 2fa.

The site has, most probably some kind of sql-injection security flaw and the attacker managed to access the SQL database directly and made the redraw action without the user inteface.

The owner of the site should refund your coins - as the site is hacked.

It's not your fault at all.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: bbbbbb2014 on September 10, 2014, 07:35:54 PM
we are now fully patched for the openssl heartbleed bug.
all previous remembered login cookies have been invalidated,
so you will need to relogin to access your old account.


http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/#dicenow.com
https://i.imgur.com/Ez7obV5.png


I hope you're aware that heartbleed bug enables the attacker to reveal several (some - possibly all) user passwords.

ALL PASSWORDS SHOULD BE CHANGED.

It seems that the attacker somehow revealed passwords for at least two accounts. But you cannot be sure - if he revealed more than these two passwords.

But your site has the another flaw - so called sql-injection flaw.

P.S.: I happen to protect some https enabled servers and I patched the SSL LOGN TIME AGO. We had several sql-injection attacks, none successful, but even so...

You should find a professional help, security wise.


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: dicenow on September 13, 2014, 04:53:41 AM

...

But your site has the another flaw - so called sql-injection flaw.

P.S.: I happen to protect some https enabled servers and I patched the SSL LOGN TIME AGO. We had several sql-injection attacks, none successful, but even so...

You should find a professional help, security wise.

I don't even use an sql database... >:(


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: superresistant on September 15, 2014, 01:01:47 PM
You should find a professional help, security wise.
I don't even use an sql database... >:(

 ;D


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: boumalo on September 15, 2014, 07:57:11 PM
So dicenow is still cruising with a few problems but PD (signature) remains the biggest in the market

Tried dicenow and liked it


Title: Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge
Post by: 001sonkit on October 01, 2014, 04:16:17 PM
A few pics from today's party. House profit moved from 30-> 150-180 in a single day

https://i.imgur.com/UkwfaBp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3hVREmW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HmR0nUN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/k7LDbZA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WOnh91s.jpg

Other recent parties (images from pitboss)

https://i.imgur.com/KsxCN9a.jpg
http://i.gyazo.com/9e99191fad64adf354349da88b8ab68a.png

https://i.imgur.com/X82BzeX.png
https://i.imgur.com/9lciAtE.png
https://i.imgur.com/wLJ2BSs.jpg