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Title: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: coinsocieties on March 18, 2018, 03:41:09 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: patt0 on March 18, 2018, 04:10:43 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?

All pump and dump groups are scam for some people, because they need to trick people, otherwise they would not be able to get profit for themselves or to their premium groups. I would stay away from these groups, because even if you are part of the premium members, and this would give you profit, then you would be getting money out of the expenses of a lot of other users that will lose money with them. It's simply wrong, so you should not support them.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: Bitcoin_trader2016 on March 18, 2018, 04:40:09 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?

All pump and dump groups are scam for some people, because they need to trick people, otherwise they would not be able to get profit for themselves or to their premium groups. I would stay away from these groups, because even if you are part of the premium members, and this would give you profit, then you would be getting money out of the expenses of a lot of other users that will lose money with them. It's simply wrong, so you should not support them.

Thats true we have to stay aways with this scam group who are disguising that they are helping people specialy newbie people by giving there pump and dump signal but the truth is they are only want to lose our money and there premium members  will earn more profit.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: Gotottack on March 18, 2018, 04:55:46 PM
Not all pump and dump groups are scam. Some are just really focused at increasing their pennies, hence, they do whatever it takes to increase their wealth. When you are into trading or are new to it, you would realize how important it is to win at every trade no matter how little you get. I know winning all the time is not possible but this is the only way to ensure your growth. Remember how fragile the market of Bitcoin is. When you solely rely on the value of Bitcoin, you will be placed in a very disadvantageous situation. Hence, it is always better to always target multiplying your wealth above everything else. Do not ever mistaken pump and dump to scam outright. There are legitimate ones, too.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on March 18, 2018, 05:11:50 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?
There are groups that teach you trading/trading basis and there are pump and dump groups which manipulate the market (usually whale traders),yes they exist!However,to join a group which actually pumps a coin or has an impact on the market are not free to join.They are invite basis and they need around 0.10-0.50 for you to get added to the group.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: Theb on March 18, 2018, 05:16:26 PM
NO!!!!!!. Generally Pump and Dump groups are created based on greed. And usually the cryptocurrencies they are announcing in the group are already cryptpcurrencies they bought at a cheaper price before even the pump begins. Which means majority of the people in the group are already late in the action. These groups are not created for the purposed of you learning. Because oumping and dumping is really not based on any technical analysis it is just an organized buying and selling of groups.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: Crypto_trader87 on March 18, 2018, 06:13:58 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?
There are groups that teach you trading/trading basis and there are pump and dump groups which manipulate the market (usually whale traders),yes they exist!However,to join a group which actually pumps a coin or has an impact on the market are not free to join.They are invite basis and they need around 0.10-0.50 for you to get added to the group.


Thats a quite big amount if you are just a bigginer of the group. Will if you always win i think its there way just to earn more and manipulate the price by inviting more people to join them. Usualy the truth if you are not a premium member you are always lose your money.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: squatz1 on March 19, 2018, 06:22:43 AM
The only groups that I would think help the traders, are the groups that explicitly promote just news, from all sources, and then show you their take on it. Not telling you if they're buying or selling, not throwing charts at you, and not setting signals for when they think it's the best time to buy. No one can time the market, but YOU CAN work within the confines of the information you have in front of you and then take it upon yourself to see if you'd like to buy or if you'd like to sell.

I'd rather see that kind of group personally.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: Nahl on March 19, 2018, 07:33:35 AM
i personally don't trust this kind of groups because they only want to take advantages from member groups but i think rather than joining pump and dump groups more better to joining trading signal because currently i was joining trading signal for free service and until now they weren't scam me and people even though they predictions only have less than 70% correct but this is pretty much better


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: mrproblem on March 19, 2018, 07:41:56 AM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?
Just keeping yourself away from such groups may protect you from source of loosing money.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: coinsocieties on March 19, 2018, 03:21:20 PM
i personally don't trust this kind of groups because they only want to take advantages from member groups but i think rather than joining pump and dump groups more better to joining trading signal because currently i was joining trading signal for free service and until now they weren't scam me and people even though they predictions only have less than 70% correct but this is pretty much better

What kind of tradinh signal you are joining? I see some groups in telegram also offiring free trading signals but i did not join to them since i was thinking that they are not accurate with that signals. But if thats free to use then maybe we can try to check it and observe first before i join.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: duyduc256 on March 19, 2018, 04:16:47 PM
i personally don't trust this kind of groups because they only want to take advantages from member groups but i think rather than joining pump and dump groups more better to joining trading signal because currently i was joining trading signal for free service and until now they weren't scam me and people even though they predictions only have less than 70% correct but this is pretty much better
I have the same idea as you. I really do not trust those business models. I just love to learn about the potential altcoins and make investment decisions. It is very good to learn and make strategies. We should not rely on anyone because the market is the battlefield. We can not know when we are being fooled.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: Sword555 on March 19, 2018, 04:35:18 PM
Never trusted to pump and dumps group because free cheese only u known where. Nobody will tell you how to get easy money for free or for little money. A lot of people catch in this scam and lost money.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: St4yInTh3D4rk on March 19, 2018, 04:39:12 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?
Mostly bump and dump groups are scams and you will lose money if you follow their comments but there are some legitimate groups are also available I think but I never joined in any of these groups because I am just a long term holder not a trader,so if the people who want to join in those groups are actually taking high risks of losing their hard earned money.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: krauzzer02 on March 19, 2018, 05:40:43 PM
You can see them on telegram or other social media platforms like Facebook or Twitter but mostly you can encounter on telegram, totally disliked their strategy to earn more bucks for trading, PD groups are a bunch of greedy people, some of them are just using some newbies to dictate what are the coins that they need to buy and what are the ones they need to sell when the reality is that the upper hand or the admin of the group are the ones who benefit from this scheme this was base from the testimony of my friend when he quits from a group.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: wantjokull on March 19, 2018, 06:07:41 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?

Do you know on many exchangers it is prohibited to use such artificial tricks to pump the coin? If you get caught on such group then you will surely get your account banned from the exchanger and they may take in your funds as you no longer belong to it. This cases has already happened and we should learn from such exchanger promptly because it is big thing to loose all of your funds for nonsense pump like that. Mostly people in that group doesn't have sense and they down follow the rules thus make you in the position of loosing lots of money. It better not to get involved into them and play trades safely with your own strategies.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: coinsocieties on April 02, 2018, 01:47:46 PM
I know now this people are just trying to scam more people buy do inviting new people in there groups and send a signal which is late already and they are selling there bags just to earn more but they scam people. What a bad habbit of scammer this is just a light kind of scammer unlike hackers.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: Alex077 on April 02, 2018, 03:00:31 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?

There are a lot of entire communities in social that agrees to buy or sell cryptocurrencies together. But in this situation, always win only a handful of people - those who are on the top of the pyramid.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: danielcansil on April 02, 2018, 03:57:10 PM
actually I really don't have much hope on these pumping group, i used to be a member in these group before, but for a long time, not only i realize i don't have much profit but also losing money in these group because trading depends on informations and how quick we can get information, the sooner the information, the higher the chance that we will have profit, but in these group, only big whales and sharks have the fastest chance to get informations than normal member, so unless you are sharks, then don't put too much hope on these group.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: riaruhs09 on April 02, 2018, 04:18:10 PM
personally I do not really believe in pumps and dump groups, because no one will help voluntarily and bear the big losses for the sake of people who have never been known before, so they are still trying to make a profit.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: GoldenLad on April 02, 2018, 04:38:30 PM
I don't know which ones are good or bad groups, but doing anything aside what the developers have done is what I consider illegal. If a potential coin will pump, it will do so at it own time. Yes, coins can be manipulated for gains. But if you are too much in a hurry to make gains from a coin by joining those groups you know nothing about, you will end up getting scammed. Do things the right way, so you don't end up regretting it.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: harizen on April 02, 2018, 04:55:53 PM
personally I do not really believe in pumps and dump groups, because no one will help voluntarily and bear the big losses for the sake of people who have never been known before, so they are still trying to make a profit.

Pump and dumps groups really exists but that is only applicable and effective for "limited altcoins" that can shaken be up for a range BTC.5 to BTC1 "in general" and that will also depend on the exchange where that altcoin is traded. But for that to make it successful all subscribers must joined the party but I doubt all of that will.

For some people, they are comfortable joining those groups but for others they have an opposite insights. So for a newbie, why trust others if we can do analyzations on our own. Once a newbie is progressing, they will automatically knows what things should they do to deal with that kind of concern so just be serious learning all aspects about crypto trading.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: yhoga45 on April 02, 2018, 04:58:16 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?

I think if a lot of people believe with the group then the admin successfully achieve its goals. So, it only in one goal that is for the group admins themselves but at least also helps a newbie like me to reduce the loss. We must always monitor the signal because if we are late we can lose our investment.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: soname12 on April 02, 2018, 05:15:50 PM
They are the owners of the pumps; they can bring any Altcoin up or down quickly. Powerful shoes make all of them FOMO, and drunk all left behind. Do not believe in them because they are big children and they will devour you at any time.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: LodisMcguire on April 02, 2018, 05:46:28 PM
These kind of group usually manipulate their member to start pump a certain coin and the leader has been buying that coin before telling that.I don't know,maybe there're some legit group,but i would rather doing the calculation alone than depend on group like that.When you lose,you will regret the decision because someone told you to,so it's better to depend on yourself so you've no regrets later.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: kimjenglot on April 02, 2018, 08:31:24 PM
They are the owners of the pumps; they can bring any Altcoin up or down quickly. Powerful shoes make all of them FOMO, and drunk all left behind. Do not believe in them because they are big children and they will devour you at any time.
always ready and careful in analyzing market movements, and do not be easily fooled by coin prices that suddenly green when Bitcoin is decreasing. because it is in the game of big investors who seek profit by trapping the beginner traders


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: richminded on April 02, 2018, 09:09:04 PM
They are the owners of the pumps; they can bring any Altcoin up or down quickly. Powerful shoes make all of them FOMO, and drunk all left behind. Do not believe in them because they are big children and they will devour you at any time.

Probably trying to hype any coin so they can actually make profit when everyone is sleeping. Pump and dump group is too good to be true, don’t risk your money just to earn easily, better to trade from your own skills and ability.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: Reid on April 02, 2018, 09:23:24 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?

None. It will always be for their own agenda to profit.
This guys usually lurks at telegram groups. Beware.

Better just get news with the official telegram page of the coin you are supporting. That way, there will be users or admin who can tell whether there is a big investor incoming.
Dont go biting this kind of agenda or you will just lose it and more. Even those paid groups wont help. It will be just about the money.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: Zadicar on April 02, 2018, 09:28:11 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?
If you do like to proceed to become a trader. Searching groups isn't bad but we do all know that there are lots of P&D groups which will even make our trading learnings worst.This is why don't join into these kind of things because most likely you would really end up on being behind.Their modus is really already common and yet known on most people here on this forum. They will just mainly use you for them to make money.If you cant get out early as you can then expect a negative impact.


Title: Re: Trading pump and dump group
Post by: coinsocieties on April 03, 2018, 12:45:45 PM
Personaly i encounter this group they called there groups a crypto pumpers or anything they use to call there group. They are recruiting people to join there group and say they were pump that coins or tokens but saddenly you lose your money with this mudos. Do you guys think there are some group that truely helps our new trader to earn?

There are a lot of entire communities in social that agrees to buy or sell cryptocurrencies together. But in this situation, always win only a handful of people - those who are on the top of the pyramid.

I think that group is good when they are all agree together and buy one tokens and hold and after a few months they well sell all together as one time. In that way they earn and sometimes lose there money together.