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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: onis_uk on October 21, 2013, 05:13:05 PM



Title: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: onis_uk on October 21, 2013, 05:13:05 PM
Yup I've been done.....
Put 2.5 btc up for sale as I couldn't be arsed with the mt.gox hastle.
Someone bought them and payed within the hour.
The person had 700+ feedback and all seemed quite good.
Logged into PayPal and had the green "safe to send" box around my transaction.
So I did .....
Today they now have a case open and want the money back.
She's claiming she's been hacked, both accounts I guess! And having called PayPal they don't seem interested in helping because I didn't physically post anything !!!!!!!......
Aaarrrrgh !!!!


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: onis_uk on October 21, 2013, 05:19:01 PM
http://blockexplorer.com/address/1GuCXNQkgxLgGkMi6HWnuqRZitoqiBdfAb (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1GuCXNQkgxLgGkMi6HWnuqRZitoqiBdfAb)

The Addy I sent them to, not that anything can be done !


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: Tomatocage on October 21, 2013, 05:42:52 PM
Where is the thread where you're selling BTC? Who was the user that you arranged the deal with?


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: onis_uk on October 21, 2013, 07:57:58 PM
Where is the thread where you're selling BTC? Who was the user that you arranged the deal with?

sorry what are you talking about ?? this was an ebay sale !???


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: Magazine on October 21, 2013, 07:58:50 PM
Where is the thread where you're selling BTC? Who was the user that you arranged the deal with?

sorry what are you talking about ?? this was an ebay sale !???

Nothing can be done, sucks buddy.


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: Tomatocage on October 21, 2013, 09:21:33 PM
Where is the thread where you're selling BTC? Who was the user that you arranged the deal with?

sorry what are you talking about ?? this was an ebay sale !???

Who was the eBay user you sold to? These details are pertinent if you don't want other people being scammed again by the same person.


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: cryptasm on October 21, 2013, 09:39:30 PM
Who was the eBay user you sold to? These details are pertinent if you don't want other people being scammed again by the same person.
Sounds like the ebay user the OP sold to had their ebay/paypal account hacked, had a similar thing nearly happen to me.

To the OP, best to use Localbitcoins to sell your btc and only accept bank transfers.


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: Mitchell on October 21, 2013, 09:42:42 PM
Why don't people understand that PayPal + BTC = bad?


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: Jabbatheslutt on October 22, 2013, 04:58:28 AM
Who was the eBay user you sold to? These details are pertinent if you don't want other people being scammed again by the same person.
Sounds like the ebay user the OP sold to had their ebay/paypal account hacked, had a similar thing nearly happen to me.

To the OP, best to use Localbitcoins to sell your btc and only accept bank transfers.
Yeah.... "Hacked"....


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: onis_uk on October 22, 2013, 06:26:03 AM
Yes like I posted before, she's claiming she got hacked so I don't want to post her details in case she's telling the truth. I called PayPal and they said they can tell if she was hacked from the number of password attempts and the IP addresses those attempts came from.....if they aren't addresses she normally uses then its likely her account was breached.


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: Jabbatheslutt on October 22, 2013, 07:46:06 AM
Yes like I posted before, she's claiming she got hacked so I don't want to post her details in case she's telling the truth. I called PayPal and they said they can tell if she was hacked from the number of password attempts and the IP addresses those attempts came from.....if they aren't addresses she normally uses then its likely her account was breached.

Your Ip can easily be faked so really Paypal is talking out of its ass as usual.


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on October 22, 2013, 10:33:08 AM
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I called PayPal and they said they can tell if she was hacked from the number of password attempts and the IP addresses those attempts came from....

Which is pretty funny because for the majority of hacks it involves one correct password attempt obtained through phishing, keylogging, etc, and I've never had a problem signing into my PayPal account and paying from any VPN.


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: cryptasm on October 22, 2013, 03:42:42 PM
Didn't realise how easy it is to spoof being hacked, another reason not to use fleabay...


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: BCEmporium on October 22, 2013, 05:41:18 PM
So...

I open a paypal account and go shopping;
Get a bot running on Tor and brute-force my own account

...And...

Get my money back because they will support my claim that I was hacked.

Is that?  ::)


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: onis_uk on October 23, 2013, 07:43:35 AM
So...

I open a paypal account and go shopping;
Get a bot running on Tor and brute-force my own account

...And...

Get my money back because they will support my claim that I was hacked.

Is that?  ::)

Yes and if you wait a couple of days until everything is posted out you get the items and you'll be covered by PayPal.....the seller will also be covered if they are sending out in the post !!!!....the perfect scam !


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: monbux on October 23, 2013, 09:49:28 PM
Well, selling bitcoins on paypal isn't very smart to begin with.
Paypal hates bitcoin, so they weren't exactly on your side.

Sorry, nothing really could be done except get over it and look on the bright side of things.  ;D


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: monbux on October 23, 2013, 09:50:49 PM
So...

I open a paypal account and go shopping;
Get a bot running on Tor and brute-force my own account

...And...

Get my money back because they will support my claim that I was hacked.

Is that?  ::)

Yes and if you wait a couple of days until everything is posted out you get the items and you'll be covered by PayPal.....the seller will also be covered if they are sending out in the post !!!!....the perfect scam !

That's the perfect con.
Which would also be illegal, but I'm surprised I haven't heard of people doing this.


Title: Re: Another ebay/paypal scam....
Post by: CustomChickenDelivery on October 24, 2013, 06:44:45 AM
So...

I open a paypal account and go shopping;
Get a bot running on Tor and brute-force my own account

...And...

Get my money back because they will support my claim that I was hacked.

Is that?  ::)

Yes and if you wait a couple of days until everything is posted out you get the items and you'll be covered by PayPal.....the seller will also be covered if they are sending out in the post !!!!....the perfect scam !

That's the perfect con.
Which would also be illegal, but I'm surprised I haven't heard of people doing this.


If you are on both ends of the scam- buyer and seller,
and were both renumerated, that would be maximum efficiency.