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Title: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 21, 2013, 06:34:17 PM
Hey guys,
I'm currently developing a new coin flip site. send coins and you'll receive 2x if you win. If you come across a bug, you can report with the txid and i'll investigate. Referrals are in beta so, use it with caution.

please just use dust for now, we will move up to higher amounts when we have confidence all bugs are gone.

Min amount for now is 0.2 and max is 2 for now.

coinsflip.com (http://coinsflip.com)


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: MaGNeT on October 21, 2013, 06:41:02 PM
And what if you lose?


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 21, 2013, 06:47:08 PM
if you loose you loose :-)


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: MaGNeT on October 21, 2013, 06:48:47 PM
if you loose you loose :-)

If you're loose, you need duct tape or super glue.


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 21, 2013, 06:51:10 PM
if you loose you loose :-)

If you're loose, you need duct tape or super glue.

Hehe lol :-)

More coins coming soon. Gonna set up a poll or something and get a vote :-)


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: jasinlee on October 21, 2013, 08:01:27 PM
if you loose you loose :-)

If you're loose, you need duct tape or super glue.

Girls usually dont like that joke.


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: MaGNeT on October 21, 2013, 08:44:30 PM
if you loose you loose :-)

If you're loose, you need duct tape or super glue.

Girls usually dont like that joke.

How did you find out?  ::)


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: jasinlee on October 21, 2013, 08:52:10 PM
There was once a time when I was unmarried and the hoes would try talking to me and I didn't control my mouth.  Needless to say they didn't like the commentary.


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: smeagol on October 21, 2013, 09:44:57 PM
if you loose you loose :-)

If you're loose, you need duct tape or super glue.

Hehe lol :-)

More coins coming soon. Gonna set up a poll or something and get a vote :-)

How do you automate the betting process?


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: jasinlee on October 22, 2013, 01:55:37 AM
Why would you automate it?


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: Hazard on October 22, 2013, 02:02:07 AM
Probably thinks he can make money by betting martingale style :D


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: jasinlee on October 22, 2013, 02:05:25 AM
Well I guess if you made minimum bets and didn't get bored/stupid.


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: jasinlee on October 22, 2013, 02:45:43 AM
Maybe add something like pennies or one more established like ftc?


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 22, 2013, 05:03:24 AM
if you loose you loose :-)

If you're loose, you need duct tape or super glue.

Hehe lol :-)

More coins coming soon. Gonna set up a poll or something and get a vote :-)

How do you automate the betting process?

you can use a wallet script


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: jasinlee on October 22, 2013, 12:15:24 PM
Maybe a login and to allow users to use a bot on the site would work.


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 22, 2013, 04:21:42 PM
Maybe a login and to allow users to use a bot on the site would work.

It's coming


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 24, 2013, 03:03:23 AM
Probably thinks he can make money by betting martingale style :D
Been there, done that.
If done correctly, it will work.
But it's not that easy to achieve this though


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 26, 2013, 07:00:05 PM
So far, site got a small redesign. BTC betting coming as soon as we make improvements to the script for faster and bigger bets :-)


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 27, 2013, 08:39:17 PM
I see btc is active, what coin are you adding next?

Yes btc is active and the script has been improved. next I'm not sure of the next coin, will work on the site UI. Then will make a poll for new coins :-)


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 28, 2013, 10:07:52 AM
For people who PM me about the source for the site, we will be providing the site as a re-branding service and/or under a licence fee. Referrals should be active within 48 hrs


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 29, 2013, 03:59:43 AM
Added referrals :-D Now you get a cut for every bet your referral looses :-D


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: jasinlee on October 29, 2013, 04:01:19 AM
There a limit to how many referred we can have?


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 29, 2013, 04:13:13 AM
There a limit to how many referred we can have?

you can get one referral link per address you register. so you may have any number of referrals


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now up BTC and LTC with referrals!!!
Post by: jasinlee on October 29, 2013, 09:09:28 PM
Cool!


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: smeagol on October 29, 2013, 09:28:28 PM
There a limit to how many referred we can have?

you can get one referral link per address you register. so you may have any number of referrals

What language are the scripts written in?  I was looking into creating a site like this myself.


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 30, 2013, 08:14:15 AM
There a limit to how many referred we can have?

you can get one referral link per address you register. so you may have any number of referrals

What language are the scripts written in?  I was looking into creating a site like this myself.

It's fully written in php


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now up BTC and LTC with referrals!!!
Post by: jasinlee on October 31, 2013, 03:38:39 AM
Interesting approach.


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now up BTC and LTC with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 31, 2013, 06:11:42 AM
later on i'll set up a poll for you guys to decide what another alt coin to add :-D i'm open to suggestions before i open up a poll


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now up BTC and LTC with referrals!!!
Post by: jrbuddy2 on October 31, 2013, 02:50:11 PM
Can you add xpm?


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now up BTC and LTC with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 31, 2013, 03:02:53 PM
Can you add xpm?
xmp and pennies are current candidates. waiting for more suggestions :-)


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now up BTC and LTC with referrals!!!
Post by: jrbuddy2 on October 31, 2013, 05:22:29 PM
Are there really an other stable coins?


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now up BTC and LTC with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on October 31, 2013, 06:22:52 PM
Are there really an other stable coins?

Most AltCoins seems to be crushing :-( but i bet if an alt coin gets a use (like betting) it can gain some traction (however little)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: jrbuddy2 on October 31, 2013, 10:14:24 PM
Got my referral address :D

http://coinsflip.com/?coin=15&r=LeLrEDrfLpTxgmybz9R1jE8BX8og9u4tSe (http://coinsflip.com/?coin=15&r=LeLrEDrfLpTxgmybz9R1jE8BX8og9u4tSe)



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 03, 2013, 01:34:06 PM
referrals leadersboard is up :-)


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: smeagol on November 03, 2013, 08:11:59 PM
There a limit to how many referred we can have?

you can get one referral link per address you register. so you may have any number of referrals

What language are the scripts written in?  I was looking into creating a site like this myself.

It's fully written in php

using json and the bitcoin/altcoin daemon?


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 04, 2013, 04:20:54 AM
There a limit to how many referred we can have?

you can get one referral link per address you register. so you may have any number of referrals

What language are the scripts written in?  I was looking into creating a site like this myself.

It's fully written in php

using json and the bitcoin/altcoin daemon?

Not quite. we've developed our own methods of communicating with the wallet daemons.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 04, 2013, 04:42:47 AM
so we're thinking of adding either netcoin, worldcoin or pennies. Any other suggestions or comments?


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: smeagol on November 08, 2013, 10:26:53 PM
There a limit to how many referred we can have?

you can get one referral link per address you register. so you may have any number of referrals

What language are the scripts written in?  I was looking into creating a site like this myself.

It's fully written in php

using json and the bitcoin/altcoin daemon?

Not quite. we've developed our own methods of communicating with the wallet daemons.

Wow, nice!

Planning on adding Devcoin anytime soon?

It's one of the oldest alts.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: jasinlee on November 08, 2013, 11:14:04 PM
That would be cool.


Title: Re: CoinsFlip site is now in testing!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 12, 2013, 12:28:32 AM


Wow, nice!

Planning on adding Devcoin anytime soon?

It's one of the oldest alts.

yes, devcoin is on the list :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 20, 2013, 05:05:40 AM
house edge brought down to ~0.5% !!  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: jrbuddy2 on November 21, 2013, 12:36:33 AM
Looks like the house keeps losing :P not that I am complaining.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 21, 2013, 12:15:15 PM
Looks like the house keeps losing :P not that I am complaining.

so keep playing :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: jasinlee on November 22, 2013, 05:42:49 AM
When do you plan to add other coins you mentioned?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: dr_yan_yan on November 22, 2013, 07:40:43 AM
Be very careful of this site.

I just put through 7 transactions, and every one of them came up as LOST

13 seconds ago   0.005 coins   Lost :(   b9a152…
2 minutes ago   0.032 coins   Lost :(   11ca51…
2 minutes ago   0.016 coins   Lost :(   dcd5bd…
3 minutes ago   0.008 coins   Lost :(   343b6c…
4 minutes ago   0.004 coins   Lost :(   a31d32…
5 minutes ago   0.002 coins   Lost :(   372cf4…
7 minutes ago   0.001 coins   Lost :(   431eb4…

Then after returning to the site 5 minutes later...
1 of the transactions has been changed to WON and a payment sent.

8 minutes ago   0.005 coins   Lost :(   b9a152…
9 minutes ago   0.032 coins   Won :)   11ca51…
10 minutes ago   0.016 coins   Lost :(   dcd5bd…
10 minutes ago   0.008 coins   Lost :(   343b6c…
11 minutes ago   0.004 coins   Lost :(   a31d32…
12 minutes ago   0.002 coins   Lost :(   372cf4…
14 minutes ago   0.001 coins   Lost :(   431eb4…

However... as expected... the total amount that was bet = 0.068
the amount that was WON after it was changed from LOST = 0.064
Thus still ensuring that they kept some.

But the Biggest concern with all of the above is... TRUST

The mathematical chance of 7 LOST occurring in a row is VERY VERY low  0.78%
THEN for the LOST to suddenly change to WON after 5 minutes means that the system is inaccurate OR edited after.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 22, 2013, 10:44:40 AM
Be very careful of this site.

I just put through 7 transactions, and every one of them came up as LOST

13 seconds ago   0.005 coins   Lost :(   b9a152…
2 minutes ago   0.032 coins   Lost :(   11ca51…
2 minutes ago   0.016 coins   Lost :(   dcd5bd…
3 minutes ago   0.008 coins   Lost :(   343b6c…
4 minutes ago   0.004 coins   Lost :(   a31d32…
5 minutes ago   0.002 coins   Lost :(   372cf4…
7 minutes ago   0.001 coins   Lost :(   431eb4…

Then after returning to the site 5 minutes later...
1 of the transactions has been changed to WON and a payment sent.

8 minutes ago   0.005 coins   Lost :(   b9a152…
9 minutes ago   0.032 coins   Won :)   11ca51…
10 minutes ago   0.016 coins   Lost :(   dcd5bd…
10 minutes ago   0.008 coins   Lost :(   343b6c…
11 minutes ago   0.004 coins   Lost :(   a31d32…
12 minutes ago   0.002 coins   Lost :(   372cf4…
14 minutes ago   0.001 coins   Lost :(   431eb4…

However... as expected... the total amount that was bet = 0.068
the amount that was WON after it was changed from LOST = 0.064
Thus still ensuring that they kept some.

But the Biggest concern with all of the above is... TRUST

The mathematical chance of 7 LOST occurring in a row is VERY VERY low  0.78%
THEN for the LOST to suddenly change to WON after 5 minutes means that the system is inaccurate OR edited after.


The bets are processed in stages, first added to the db (marked as lost as default value) then processed and changed to won if it won. you speak of 7 lost in a row is very low posibility.... yes, low, but there was a time where 8 wins occured in a row. Statistics collected over ~10 values are not qualified for probability fairness qualification. According to our statistics, over the last 100 bets, 48 won and 52  lost. and still yet 100 values isn't quite enough to see the real probability.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 22, 2013, 10:50:15 AM
and as jrbuddy2 tipped that the house is loosing, i had to contact the admins to ask what's going on. they did confirm that there was a wave of wins in a row. But the scripts were tested with 10000 tx on testnet with house edge 0 to ensure fairness. And according to the coders, it alligned almost perfectly 50-50 as expected. So our script functions as it should. Try going to other betting sites where the show bet logs, i once witnessed well over 10 losses in a row. Probabilities are low, but doesn't mean impossible


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: jasinlee on November 23, 2013, 07:54:50 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy)

Might want to give that a read.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: milly6 on November 23, 2013, 07:58:00 PM
So by coin flipping do you mean this is a dice game?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 23, 2013, 08:32:33 PM
So by coin flipping do you mean this is a dice game?

yes in a sort of way....


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 25, 2013, 09:25:31 PM
BTW, all bets below minimum are "lost" above maximum are returned.

edit:
Database was cleaned of these "invalid bets"


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: reecelander on November 25, 2013, 09:36:18 PM
Add Applecoin :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 25, 2013, 09:47:05 PM
minimum btc reduced to 0.002 btc :-D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on November 30, 2013, 08:35:42 PM
Added Pennies :-D min bet is 1 and max is 5 for now ;-) Betting will be processed after the sync has completed in an hr or so ;-) currently placed bets will be processed then :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: jasinlee on December 01, 2013, 11:10:11 AM
Nice setup, when will you be adding namecoin or others?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on December 02, 2013, 06:40:53 PM
Nice setup, when will you be adding namecoin or others?

Soon, as we get more resources :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on December 07, 2013, 07:53:25 AM
And we have added a new coin :-) NMC. min bet 0.5 max 2 for now ;-)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: jasinlee on December 07, 2013, 12:51:03 PM
And we have added a new coin :-) NMC. min bet 0.5 max 2 for now ;-)

Nice! Ok you should probably add xpm and I think quarks have gotten popular.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on December 09, 2013, 11:07:04 PM
Pennies and nmc are disabled until their wallets are fixed. sorry for any inconvenience that may arise


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on January 06, 2014, 11:44:14 PM
CacheCoin added to the flip site :-D  http://coinsflip.com/index.php?coin=20 (http://coinsflip.com/index.php?coin=20)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400389 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400389)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinsFlip.com Multicoin Flipping site with referrals!!!
Post by: kalgecin on January 08, 2014, 01:16:23 PM
Fixed referral creation for CACH