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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: Primrose on October 22, 2013, 06:55:40 PM



Title: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Primrose on October 22, 2013, 06:55:40 PM
I bought two btc's in March at a loss, £130 ish, and more or less accepted the loss and put it down to experience.
I decided that when they next go right down, i.e. below £30, that I would buy another couple and of course, at that price, I would be prepared to lose the money.
Instead, to my dissappointment, i am finding that they have been creeping steadily up from £80-ish to over £120 now.
I can see why the bubble happened in March but why are they creeping up like this?
Am I never going to be able to buy a couple more for below £30?

Thanks, from someone who is pretty ignorant on all the techy aspects of bitcoin but had fun doing a little trading, even though I lost the money.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Primrose on October 22, 2013, 06:59:07 PM
I think it has something to do with the Chinese buying loads of bitcoins for the last few days.
Aww thanks. Why are the Chinese suddenly buying loads of btc?
Don't they realise they are stopping me from buying any? hahahhah
Nah, seriously why are they buying them?

Thanks


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Pruden on October 22, 2013, 07:02:51 PM
Because they mend their mistake of not having bitcoins faster than you.  ;)


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: knight22 on October 22, 2013, 07:03:01 PM
I think it has something to do with the Chinese buying loads of bitcoins for the last few days.
Aww thanks. Why are the Chinese suddenly buying loads of btc?
Don't they realise they are stopping me from buying any? hahahhah
Nah, seriously why are they buying them?

Thanks

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310962.0

But on the other hand

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=315380.0


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: freequant on October 22, 2013, 07:03:44 PM
Am I never going to be able to buy a couple more for below £30?
Don't worry, it's a matter of hours before you can buy BTCs for dirt cheap again.




Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Buffer Overflow on October 22, 2013, 07:07:26 PM
Am I never going to be able to buy a couple more for below £30?
Don't worry, it's a matter of hours before you can buy BTCs for dirt cheap again.

Will I be able to buy them for £3 again? I remember those days.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: bestxchanger on October 22, 2013, 07:09:01 PM
They buy whatever they can,gold,usd and now btc,because the yuan is worthless


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Rival on October 22, 2013, 07:09:10 PM
Am I never going to be able to buy a couple more for below £30?
Don't worry, it's a matter of hours before you can buy BTCs for dirt cheap again.

Will I be able to buy them for £3 again? I remember those days.


Only if you can mine them with a GPU again. Not much chance of that.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: zeroday on October 22, 2013, 07:10:40 PM
China is sleeping now. Let's wait until their morning. it's possible we will pass $300 then.
Soon I'll get some more fiat so I will spend it entirely on btc, and I have no intention to sell it even at $500.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: c1010010 on October 22, 2013, 07:12:17 PM
Am I never going to be able to buy a couple more for below £30?
Don't worry, it's a matter of hours before you can buy BTCs for dirt cheap again.

Will I be able to buy them for £3 again? I remember those days.


Only if you can mine them with a GPU again. Not much chance of that.

CUP and GPU are dead.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Rluner on October 22, 2013, 07:17:31 PM
Its unlikely, but not impossible IMHO that you can ever buy at below £30. But you could wait forever to see.

No one can say for sure if they will continue to rise; or dip and rise, or just crash and burn.

Best advice is as always invest what you can afford to lose, be it £1 or £1 million pounds, its relative to your situation.

We are all in the same boat don't worry.

Now you have to ask yourself "Do you feel lucky Punk?"

(Quote from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xjr2hnOHiM for the younger ones.)



Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Equus on October 22, 2013, 07:32:37 PM
LOL "creeping up."

Bitcoin creeps about as well as my two-year-old.  Perhaps when it actually hits the ceiling you might be able to scoop it up off the floor before it bounces back up and starts running again.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: MAbtc on October 22, 2013, 07:45:13 PM
Hehe, yeah I wouldn't exactly call this "creeping up", especially looking at BTCChina, for instance. Straight up parabolic. I wouldn't hold my breath for sub-£30 coins, but it's possible.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Primrose on October 22, 2013, 08:04:13 PM
Thanks for pointing me towards the Chinese thing.
It may be their bedtime, but it's the US's daytime now.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: udet4food on October 22, 2013, 08:11:44 PM
I bought two btc's in March at a loss, £130 ish, and more or less accepted the loss and put it down to experience.
I decided that when they next go right down, i.e. below £30, that I would buy another couple and of course, at that price, I would be prepared to lose the money.
Instead, to my dissappointment, i am finding that they have been creeping steadily up from £80-ish to over £120 now.


It shows how panic selling is bad and just making the traders rich  :)


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Primrose on October 22, 2013, 08:16:59 PM
I bought two btc's in March at a loss, £130 ish, and more or less accepted the loss and put it down to experience.
I decided that when they next go right down, i.e. below £30, that I would buy another couple and of course, at that price, I would be prepared to lose the money.
Instead, to my dissappointment, i am finding that they have been creeping steadily up from £80-ish to over £120 now.


It shows how panic selling is bad and just making the traders rich  :)

I bought thinking they would keep going up but woops!
Still, the way things are going, I may not have lost my money afterall, but I am not holding my breath cos of the unpredictability.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Shermo on October 22, 2013, 08:24:47 PM
Best bet is to just sit tight and hold, if you have cash sat in a savings account earning 0.5% interest per year then I think its worth a punt putting some into BTC. Whilst it has ups and downs the overall trend has been up, sure it might drop as soon as you buy, but 6 months later you may be up 25% and that's better than anything else at the moment.

My girlfriend was in a similar situation to you, she put £1000 into bitcoins near the last peak and then they plummeted, she recently made her money back with a little profit so still worked out better than leaving it in a regular savings account even if it did look bleak at first.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: MAbtc on October 22, 2013, 08:53:55 PM
I bought thinking they would keep going up but woops!

This is why I am bothered by the "it's always a good time to buy bitcoin" attitude around here. It takes a long term perspective that new investors simply don't have, by and large.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Primrose on October 22, 2013, 11:14:22 PM
I bought thinking they would keep going up but woops!

This is why I am bothered by the "it's always a good time to buy bitcoin" attitude around here. It takes a long term perspective that new investors simply don't have, by and large.
Win on the swings but lose on the roundabouts. :)


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: knight22 on October 22, 2013, 11:53:23 PM
I bought thinking they would keep going up but woops!

This is why I am bothered by the "it's always a good time to buy bitcoin" attitude around here. It takes a long term perspective that new investors simply don't have, by and large.

Why do you assume that new investors don't have a long term perspective?


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: johnyj on October 23, 2013, 12:14:07 AM
I heard that someone in china just sold his apartment and bought 2000+ coins last month, and he is already 30%+ now

If you know how many excessive apartments there are in china...  
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/17/article-1339536-0C859404000005DC-176_634x475.jpg

Just imagine that each apartment on this photo equals to a 2000 coins buy order, it will clear all the sell orders on all the exchanges in no time  :D


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: Primrose on October 23, 2013, 01:36:34 AM
I heard that someone in china just sold his apartment and bought 2000+ coins last month, and he is already 30%+ now

If you know how much excessive apartments are there in china...  
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/17/article-1339536-0C859404000005DC-176_634x475.jpg

Just imagine that each apartment on this photo equals to a 2000 coins buy order, it will clear all the sell orders on all the exchanges in no time  :D
They look grim :(
I watched some documentary on youtube, forget which now, and it had streets and streets of these tower blocks, really grim. None of the chinese want to move into them, but I forgot why.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: JimboToronto on October 23, 2013, 03:18:27 AM

Ugh. Reminds me of the 1960s-70s. Who in their right mind would want to live in buildings like that? Please don't tell me that horrible urban blight was built in the last 25 years. Yuck.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: MAbtc on October 23, 2013, 03:19:59 AM
I bought thinking they would keep going up but woops!

This is why I am bothered by the "it's always a good time to buy bitcoin" attitude around here. It takes a long term perspective that new investors simply don't have, by and large.

Why do you assume that new investors don't have a long term perspective?
Do you think the average new blood entering during parabolic growth are doing so because of a long term perspective? I don't. Maybe I'm off.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: freequant on October 23, 2013, 03:33:31 AM
Am I never going to be able to buy a couple more for below £30?
Don't worry, it's a matter of hours before you can buy BTCs for dirt cheap again.

Will I be able to buy them for £3 again? I remember those days.


Only if you can mine them with a GPU again. Not much chance of that.
Thers are Bitcoins less than £3 and that can be GPU mined: these are called Litecoins..


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: freequant on October 23, 2013, 03:39:35 AM
I bought thinking they would keep going up but woops!

This is why I am bothered by the "it's always a good time to buy bitcoin" attitude around here. It takes a long term perspective that new investors simply don't have, by and large.

Why do you assume that new investors don't have a long term perspective?
Do you think the average new blood entering during parabolic growth are doing so because of a long term perspective? I don't. Maybe I'm off.
Suckers Investors who get in now don't have a long term perspective.
But they don't have a short term perspective either otherwise they wouldn't enter now.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: derpinheimer on October 23, 2013, 03:40:54 AM

Ugh. Reminds me of the 1960s-70s. Who in their right mind would want to live in buildings like that? Please don't tell me that horrible urban blight was built in the last 25 years. Yuck.

Whats wrong with them? New, clean buildings built on higher standards than the older ones?



Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: CryptoMinter on October 23, 2013, 04:02:29 AM

Ugh. Reminds me of the 1960s-70s. Who in their right mind would want to live in buildings like that? Please don't tell me that horrible urban blight was built in the last 25 years. Yuck.

Whats wrong with them? New, clean buildings built on higher standards than the older ones?



I think it has a lot to do with advanced planning for the large migration associated with the urbanization of China. People tend to call out the ghost towns and things as wasteful and mock it, but it's a lot more planning than can be found elsewhere.

Maybe we can blame the creep on the urbanization??


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: johnyj on October 23, 2013, 07:09:22 AM
I think this mostly comes from the diminishing hope of getting coins from investing in mining rigs

Every time after the price rocketed, the mining profitability will improve a lot, and many investors will put their money into mining rigs. That's the reason price advance will always stop to wait for difficulty to catch up. But now there is no hope to get any reasonable amount of bitcoin from those mining rig investments, so those investors are turning back to exchanges


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin creeping up again.
Post by: windjc on October 23, 2013, 07:15:30 AM
Well there's that and then there the ever growing % of the other 7 billion humans that have never mined a day, but are finding out about bitcoin.