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Ok, so this is the very first time I am seriously concerned about the future of bitcoin:

https://gizmodo.com/child-pornography-that-researchers-found-in-the-blockch-1823927566

This article talks only about child pornography within the blockchain, but apparently the researchers also found copyrighted material, and other illegal content. Having worked on international governance matters, I fear this could mobilize sufficient national authorities to arrange a concerted crack-down on anything related to bitcoin (starting with, for instance, prohibiting exchanges, fiat flows related to bitcoin etc.).

Given the nature of the blockchain, I can't see any TECHNICAL solution.

Two questions in this regards:

1) do you agree that this is a major threat to the existence of bitcoin?
2) assuming that bitcoin would have be "restarted" (a fork obviously would not solve the problem), how could an "ethical" and "legally acceptable" from of the blockchain and thus bitcoin work?

Did find this view regarding on BTC regarding this specific instance reported in the news:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3173383.0

Even IF (and this is a big IF) this particular case turns out to be a non-issue, that does still leave the question of how to prevent illegal content to find it's way onto the blockchain and thus threaten the existence of bitcoin.

Do you really think that this can harm the technology of the blocking system? You are funny)

How it can be the end of Bitcoin while the value of Bitcoin is about 9000$? remember even 9000$ or 5000$, it's already get high in long time, when i see bitcoin at 5000$ last year i dont belive in my eyes. It's so early to say the end of Bitcoin now, i think it's just a begining, we will see more big things in this year belive me.

The internet is home to lots of horrific things and facilitates them, that still exists and people would be unable to function in their day to day lives without the internet. Because a select group use something for bad does not mean you can punish the many for it. They will only find another way to sin if you remove their current one.

I scanned the article where I saw how does the technology used in the immorality of the people. Even before, there are lot of issues of child pornography in pur society. It is not a new to everyone that technology is used in order to make this such crime. And as of now, the backbone of blockchain technology of bitcoin is also used in order to make a transaction in child pornography. That's insane! Humanity nowadays don't have the satisfaction and I think our society right now is slowly becomes a garbage that will perish soon! However, it does not inflict in the bitcoin though there is a connection between of them. Bitcoin is a currency, it is made just to transact.

What is this? Another attack on crypto and trying to portray it in bad light?

I believed that this is another FUD to spread malice about cryptosphere so I urge you to not take it seriously. You have to look at traditional fiat. Its been used not just for child pornography but other illicit things. They are trying to put a blame on blockchain which is obviously is not designed to be for criminals used.

Again, this kind of article should be put to trash bin because its totally garbage and the argument is seriously flawed.

maybe at the end net bitcoin would be good because with the bitcoin in our country it's impossible to increase it and even though I'm a novice, I believe I'm going to be here with bitcoin.

Child pornography is an issue for all the internet. Even if the blockchain technology has some in it, due to corrupted people using it that fuck... way, this is not technology's fault. Even in Google you can find some websites with child pornography, and it doesn't mean the whole Google system is going to be taken down, as neither should be torrent (where, for sure, you will find some of this sick content), or many other platforms.
The fight against child pornography is not only a Blockchain issue but also all the internet platforms where you can actually upload whatever you want.
So, no. They can't just throw up a great a new technology based on a common problem.

Better to report this or if you can't do anything about it then this post OP is good but the title of topic is not good why end of bitcoin better to change it because if you say end of bitcoin then no more crypto anymore in the future of it so that's not good,i think also all are open now in world so we need to accept that if they can think that or like that another thing for them that is business and not bad

Child pornography existed way before bitcoin and the blockchain's inception, so technically if the government can't do shit about this type of activity, it would just be one of their petty reasons as to why bitcoin should be banned because these things exist. If the government really is sincere in ending such worldly and immoral things, they'd go to the root of it and not only kill the branches; it will keep on spreading in different media as long as the root still exists.

Most of the time, the governments are just interested in getting something out of crypto gains and just seize such kinds of opportunities if they think they can milk some $ in the process. A government caring for its people's interests is just an illusion nowadays.



If CP and other illicit activities is a threat to bitcoin, shouldn't these things a threat to fiat as well knowing that these industries flourished with the funding of fiat first before getting into the realms of bitcoin? That is if the government is sincere in chasing down the operators of such industries, but no, they're just after monetary gains and personal interests lol.


Bitcoin isn't intended to be pure and ethical in the first place. It's basically another form of money, and where there is money, there'd obviously be scums ready to do everything just to get $$$ no matter what their ways are. If the blockchain isn't legally acceptable right now, then how come the banks and several nations are trying to do some research about it to see whether they can integrate it in their systems? This is yet another topic of crooked morality being linked to a money which, we all know isn't going to be vindicated no matter how much effort we exert. Money is money, no matter what form it may be or what medium it exist, there'd be illegal things happening around it and you can't prevent that with a single kill-switch/change of code/system overhaul.

Not one criminal activity will stop the Bitcoin growth. Child pornography is also connected with the centralized currencies but because of the false news presented by the media people are blaming the BTC usage for the criminal activities.

I agree that this fall is taking to long and many people are losing interest but couple years ago people didn't even know that BTC will achieve value it is today no matter of the fall.

This for sure isn't the end only the regulated beginning!

That's what you said, because now it's nice to have bitcoin and we've got a lot of money here when bitcoin increases the scammer so we're careful.

but my opinion here is bitcoin when it comes to the end there are so many bitcoins to be rich because if you want to be rich it is patience that is also my dream but rich.

How are you so naive to think that it cannot hurt bitcoin? If bitcoin opponents (or generally crypto opponents) start including more and more illegal content in the blockchain, how is that not a problem? Governments might not be able to "stop" bitcoin directly, but they can indirectly cut of the life blood of bitcoin.

Has nothing to do with  or economics. Even if bitcoin would be 100k or more, the point is that the blockchain includes illegal material, then those who run full nodes (in particular professional miners) can potentially be prosecuted and shut down.

this is a pretty fucked up thing and it is not new either meaning it didn't happen yesterday. it happened a long time ago, the news is just being spread now because now it is time for FUDing.
and no matter how bad this seems to be like, it is not the end of bitcoin because it is not affecting the functionality of bitcoin and so far nobody has cared about this matter despite its existence.

Why do we need to blame the technology. Terrorism, momey laundering, child pornography etc. existed before bitcoin does. Also even if you ban bitcoin because of this evil acts will it gurantee that it would stop.

What they need to do is to concentrate on persecuting this criminals.

Agreed. The difference though, is that usually it's the individuals deliberate choice whether they want to own illegal material or not. If the blockchain (any public blockchain, not just bitcoin) contains illegal metarial, people (e.g. miners) might not even be aware they "own" such illegal material and face criminal charges.

The point here is that if governments want to "remove" the illegal content in blockchains the only way is to shut down and confiscate evey full node, which would indirectly kill the blockchain.

Death cycle of bitcoin? The recent bitcoin growth, which marked the return of bitcoin?
My answer is yes, when all of bitcoin and altcoin have grown amazingly over the past week, we've figured out that bitcoin is not something that can be erased. an organization or any individual, bitcoin is now absolutely indispensable, now we need to earn a lot of bitcoin and ethereum while others are still scared bitcoin and eth are dying. What a nonsense question!

The public outrage might be "fud". However, I am trying to have reasoned discussion here.

Everyone who says here that it's not threatening bitcoin or that the question is non-sense, please indicate where in the following the reasoning is wrong:

1. Given the blockchain technology, it is currently possible to include illegal material on the blockchain. Yes / no?
2. Once illegal metarial is included on the blockchain and the block has been verified (assume several hundred confirmations), there is no way to change such a block. Yes/ no?
3. Depenent on the illegal material, governments might be more inclined to prosecute (think child pornography, national secrets, organized crime etc.). Yes / no?
4. Every full node will inadvertendly own such illegal material. Yes / no?
5. Owning illegal content is in some instances a criminal offence (e.g. in many countriesyi you can be criminally charged, if you have child pornography on your computer, whether you use is it or not, whether you know about or not). Yes / no?
6. At least in the case of bitcoin, miners and pools are critical to bitcoin and have the full node. Yes / no?
7. If governments want to crack down on owning illegal material, which is part of the blockchain the easiest way would be go to the professional miners and pools and confiscate their material. Yes / no?


If you followed this argument and agree with the statements, then the only conclusion will have to be that bitcoin could be at threat. if you don't agree with one of the statement, I would be curious to understand which one and why.

Its such a shame that some people stoop as low as child porn, and yes,such activities are a mojor threat to BTC, but only if the coin was used to pay for certain services within that sphere.if not then blockchain is an independent technology that should deal with its own problems.

The only way of ensuring such things dont happen again is through regulations, if BTC and Blockchain remain independent then there is nothing that can be done

I believe that bitcoin will not end, although the  price is not stable, but look at now the price goes up, so meaning theres always be growth for everything, this is just the beginning, just be positive all the time, it doesnt mean if the price is low bitcoin will end, its just the matter of test how big our faith in here, if we dont give up we can see how bitcoin change our lives, i can assure our effort,hardwork will be paid off if.

This is fake news. Bitcoin is transparent therefore only stupid criminals will use it to commit illegal activities. They are leaving a trail of evidence behind. Monero is the choice of criminals nowadays. Since it hides transactions. Do some more research.

With the current situation, we can see that Bitcoin is a stable currency and has excellent development platforms. I think many countries will accept Bitcoin for domestic and international transactions. But besides that, many people believe that Bitcoin and other currencies may end up unexpectedly, but I think it's impossible.

Cryptocurrency. Bitcoin The fact that China has lost (opportunities), then this share will be accepted by the giper big financial operator in front of the Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
Its mean very soon btc go up. G20 give green light.

Bitcoin is never end. It future digital currency. So bitcoin is reach the all country people for the future saving and invest for future business process. All country people learn more information from bitcoin and improve the knowledge. It reach the county So it easy to exchange any country currency. Coming future bitcoin is accept the all country. If accept the county. Country economy,finance it will be improve. So economy is important of the country. People will be improve country also improve. It connect the other county. So easy to improve you business and any country to start the new business. It will connect the country for the future business growth.

I think the bitcoin will not end and the article you give me is a lie, I think in the bitcoin there is a certain thing that is not open to the public to join in a project that is pornographic because in bitcoin not only parents,teenagers even children who join bitcoin world,thanks...

Bitcoin never will stop, its just started only.Bitcoin has great future and current market situation now stable and reliable, good time to buy bitcoin.

I will agrre that bitcoin was transparent at the same time eligible to  spread its grace and keep it more expandable earnings.

Bitcoin will never end. It is too impossible. I know it will never happened. Even bitcoin price always drop, we all know that this issue will never harm or it cannot stop the great use of bitcoin for everyone. Bitcoin is a great opportunity to everyone. It gives such a great freedom and everything that we really needed. Keep trusting and believing. Have patience and learn to manage time. Accept your downfalls for you to trust yourself too and have confidence to take risk for you to trust bitcoin wholely.

As long as there are people playing Bitcoin, there is no failure. Even if the fall is low, as long as you dare to enter, as long as there are dealers, as long as there are people who join the game, there are still earning days. If one falls or throws, there will never be earning days.

These sort of crimes are obviously unexpected. But we need to understand it that it’s not technology’s fault. Would you blame mainstream currencies if those are used for crimes? And as long as people are exchanging, I don’t see any threat to BTC, let alone the end of it.

After achieving 21 million bitcoins, perhaps bitcoin will disappear. But it's a long way to go. Current bitcoin is developing very strongly. There are a lot of people investing in bitcoin. bitcoin is slowly becoming part of the digital world. So you should invest in bitcoin.

Well I so much appreciate  the technology behind bitcoin and the decentralization of bitcoin  which is the back bone  and the major strength of bitcoin. The only thing government can succeed is to fight against the exchange in other to disband bitcoin because they can not shutdown bitcoin.

it does not stop the bitcoin because many people are talking bitcoin and people are already supporting it in bitcoin so I can say it does not end it bitcoin and Demand and supply will be the life support of bitcoin.

Bitcoin can be used by all kinds of people so it can happen. People can do good with it and can do bad with it. Its just like money, everyone can use it.

Your idea is very strange, I do not want to say more! ! :-X

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Lol. This was known in 2013, and was actively discussed then. As you can see, bitcoin is still not blocked)

Bitcoin is like a tree you need a lot of water for the grow of it

So here in bitcoin the user of it is the water that's why it will continue grow and this is non stop because of the popularity of it in every user

Another thing if your here in crypto that with volatile price so it's risky so no need to ask if it's have end or it will continue we only need to stop if we don't experience good here that's all

the end of bitcoin is impossible, the bitcoin community will conduct protest about it because we all know that no government involves in here so it's impossible will happen. the technology is improving the world rather, this bitcoin is a future cryptocurrency that will help us in our daily lives.

bitcoin is a global story. Take a Russian citizen - after all, he does not have many opportunities to invest: deposit, currency, Russian stock market.

Such incidents were taking place even before the introduction of Blockchain technology and would continue to take place for years even IF bitcoin was to end. Ending a billion dollar industry because of one story doesn't seem practical and I highly doubt whether bitcoin would end for this reason.
But yes, since the currency is not regulated by government, it does give criminals an easier way to launder money. That is one aspect that government would want to curb in the near future.

Well, it is true that Bitcoin is facing some real problmes right now, its value is decreasing, and , more and more companies prohibiting its ads. All of these actions, just want to shut it down and decrease the number of its users. But, in the cryptocurrency world, nothing is granted. It can be the end of Bitcoin but it also can be the start of a new era for Bitcoin. No one really knows

The significant structural shortcoming [Bitcoin], a flaw in the long term is the public registry. You should understand that the concept of public blockade and a reliable trading mechanism are incompatible. It's simply not possible that everyone has access to all transactions, because with a large scale this will start to malfunction.

No Bitcoin cannot end on this note so easily. Bitcoin has a lot of capability and potential to rise again and spread its popularity again.Many people still use Bitcoin.It is the best option for investment in today's date even when the prices are low.Many people still hold Bitcoins as they have faith in it.Bitcoin has faced many ups and downs in the last nine years but has always emerged victorious.After the price fall it recovers quickly and goes up again.It can give competition to fiat currency.

It's good reputation and kindness has brought Bitcoin farther, that's why a lot of people still believe its potential, credibility, and integrity. Let negativity and fake news be overpowered with faith and passion to lead our journey to the right direction. There's no easy way to eliminate bitcoin, it's backed up with strong hold of systematic and technical functionalities that can hardly stop Bitcoin from operating.

I don't known your idea
But i think BTC will die but blockchain is a future and a new coin will change BTC position

I am not concerned about Bitcoin future. Because I know as well Bitcoin future is bright. Bitcoin will never die. Bitcoin is the king of cryptocurrency. Although Bitcoin dumped so high. But don't worry this does not end. Bitcoin will come back soon. And this time Bitcoin will reach so high ever. So let's see what will happen with Bitcoin.

Bitcoin can't affect from a child pornography because it was different sites from porn to this forum. there will be no such thing in bitcoin.If you dont want to end bitcoin use the forum for a formal communication. bitcoin can change our lives. Dont do such a bad thing using this bitcoin because it can affect through government it can end this site as easy.

No, there is no endings of Bitcoin. You never know what are the capabilities of Bitcoin. I think you even don't know what is Bitcoin all about. Please do research on different cryptocurrency and Bitcoin. You will see the difference. The journey of bitcoin is just started right now. So wait until you eyr witnessed the success of Bitcoin. It will go up to the sky.

this is a very chaotic thing and it's not new either which means it did not happen yesterday. it's been a long time, the news has just spread now because it's time for FUDing.
and no matter how bad it seems, this is not the end of bitcoin because it does not affect the function of bitcoin and so far no one cares about it even though it exists. and I can expect bitcoin in the future to become better and better known by investors.

yes, this is a major threat to bitcoin and can damage the positive image of bitcoin, besides that because the bitcoin function is not to spread pornography. and bitcoin also does not provide facilities for destructive actions.

the main problem is that the status of bitcoin remains unclear, so national and international institutions must make decisions regarding bitcoin status. so when the world makes a legal regulation about bitcoin or digital currency. it will minimize bad behavior.

BTC will never end. BTC will exist forever. It depends only on his value and I believe In enormous value in the future.

I think bitcoin will never end as long as people support it and community of bitcoin is continues believing on it.


I agree.

It is a good time for investing on bitcoin. But the best times to buy bitcoin investments is when the price is at a dip and the value is at a cheaper rate. This way you could buy a whole bitcoin at a cheaper price and you could easily expect an increase lately. There is no issue about your investments going to waste since the price drops in bitcoin were just temporary. So O suggest you buy more during dips and sell during price increases.

For me Bitcoin will not end because most people like Bitcoin. They wants to earned a lot of Bitcoin and ethereum  because of a highest value of that and can improve of our life to change life  better.

Bitcoin does not finish because bitcoin is strong crypto currency is too much hope the bitcoin will be big enough because the bitcoin value today does not mean that bitcoin will end.

Bitcoin doesn't have an end if ever many people tries to believe bitcoin and study it very well. It doesn't mean that if bitcoin price goes down bitcoin will end. It will never be the reason because if bitcoin price goes down then you must really needs patience for you to wait until bitcoin price backs to its normal price. Bitcoin will continue to exist especially internet connection is very strong in every country. Technology is always been there. So it is too impossible that bitcoin will end.

 i think it's just a begining, we will see more big things in this year belive me.

why do you say that bitcoin is a big threat ...?
bitcoin is not a threat but a better future advantage. who says the threat of disliking bitcoin

I think the end is approaching, there is no hope of rising, all false news, and there is no hope of change in the price as it is until this moment, and all the news that does not affect

What on earth does anything you have said even mean? What a pile of tosh. I mean it doesn't make sense, it's barely in English and it reads like some random words typed into a post by someone who has no idea about anything. Why do we have to put up with such drivel?

It will continue to grow and we will all feel the benefits that will happen later. As you said that as long as Bitcoin is still widely used then the Bitcoin price will increase and the development of crypto is currently at a pretty good level. So if anyone says that Bitcoin will end then it is a joke that is not funny. We must be optimistic in facing all conditions and never be easy to read news that is not true.

Nope. It will never end because bitcoin is known worldwide and billions of people are using and are aware of bitcoin. It expands immensely around the world. No one can stop it. So bitcoin will never end.

Are you mad who said this news. Everyone know the Bitcoin is a Cryptocurrency so no one is said this nonsense. But some issues are created in every month so it will down in the market. Bitcoin will never end in this world at the same this will rule the all fiat currency also in future. Internet is stoped in all over the world automatically all the Cryptocurrencies are dead otherwise impossible in anyway. I

small jumps in the rate do not indicate that bitcoin will end.Yes, this happens on the market and it has been several times should not lose hope

Even before, there are lot of issues of child pornography in pur society. It is not a new to everyone that technology is used in order to make this such crime. And as of now, the backbone of blockchain technology of bitcoin is also used in order to make a transaction in child pornography.

Bitcoin ending? I doubt it,i believe bitcoin is just starting?  With the little thing I know that bitcoin can now be exchanged with fiat,one can get airtime with bitcoin, so I really believe bitcoin has just started..

It doesn't make sense actually. And, yes cryptocurrency is vulnerable. I suggest if ever there is an end of this crypto, there must be a valid notice before it will gone in this kind of community. So, if ever technology will definitely shut for good there is no turning back at all,however if they'll end the operation system, all transactions online follows not just about bitcoin. Internet has a very big contribution to make life easier and fast and we are thankful enough so I guess bitcoin as well gives its best shot in the world of cryptocurrency but not the end.

I do not think that bitcoin will disappear in the near future, yet a large number of people believe in it! But if the trend of using bitcoin as speculation persists, I think sooner or later people will lose interest in it!

Lol I was laughing reading his posts, I thought he was just drunk during the time he posted here but I was wrong all of his post are the same. Its like he's picking up random words and put it together.
Anyway to be on topic, no one knows when will Bitcoin end, but certainly not in the next 10-15 years.

I dont believe that bitcoin is ending. Bitcoin will never end in this world at the same this will rule the all fiat currency also in future. Bitcoin will end then it is a joke that is not funny. We must be optimistic in facing all conditions and never be easy to read news that is not true. Bitcoin will continue to exist especially internet connection is very strong in every country