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Many companies, banks and goverments are lobbying against bitcoin, while praising the blockchain technology Sathoshi invented. Soon they will use the open source software to develop their own blockchains, without ever expressing gratitude to satoshi or the bitcoin community. Isn't that stealing?


Would you fight for Satoshi when it gets though?

• Delete facebook, google, twitter if they would try something?
• Protest your goverment, if they try to ban?
• Close your bank account forever?

Instead of deleting social media I might use it for spreading awareness and getting help by gathering more and more people in the support of Satoshi and help him get justice. Protesting would not be a great idea as the government would easily find ways and means to stop the protest and diverge people from the real issue. Closing the bank accounts again is a stupid idea as the income we receive is in our banks and bitcoin while that scenario would be down so it would not be right to do so. Apart from these there still would be many ways an individual could help and I would also help and fight for Satoshi whenever the time comes to do so.

The trader crypto will obviously support bitcoin. But, in terms of technological plagiarism, I do not really care as long as it is beneficial to all of us because it is as if what they are doing is for the development and progress of the world economy for the better. Just as we have so far as users who just enjoy the technology created by Satoshi without having to pay a bit to use it. The sense of gratitude must be done but we do not know who to say thanks because Satoshi is just a pseudonym from the creators of blockchain and bitcoin technology.

What lame shit is this. No one would do this. Get this bitcoin is virtual. Bank accounts and protesting against government would be a real life thing if you do it AFK. If you want to do all of them sitting on a computer, it's not going to be impossible but it'd be a waste of time. You're wasting your time thinking about it, I don't see why you wont waste your time doing this if you intend to do it.

Companies, banks and governments will not issue real decentralized currencies.

no need to fight and because bitcoin will continue to grow like this is non stop

We need this in life and even they copy this still they can't handle that because this is all around the world with no regulator so if they run a blockchain in their country of course they authorized that with regulator

History can not be changed.  No matter how many banks, governments, corporations and others lobby for bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto (the pseudonym of a person or a group of people who developed the cryco-bitokoy protocol and created the first version of the software in which this protocol was implemented) will forever be its creator.  I see no reason to defend the interests of the creator bitcoin.

I don't think it can be considered stealing, no patent was filed. It was meant to be shared with everyone from day one.

But regardless of what governments end up doing. A lot of people in the world live in situations where decentralized money is a very important use case. So even if they ban it, people will always use it. I myself see the need to start building up more BTC due to situations in my country. When a government destroys an economy what else is there to switch over to ?

The people will want what they want. No government can globally end bitcoin usage. If you look at all the regulation discussions lately, you would also see they are fine with it, as long as taxes are in order and measures are put in place that people dont get scammed.
I think that is a very fair view and respect the major governments for their view on this.

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Stealing? No, since it's free and open-source software, I wouldn't call it stealing if people are using chunk of the code to create their own blockchain.
The original Bitcoin core client was released under the MIT license, which is pretty permissive.

Where do you get the idea that it would be stealing if banks or companies make their own implementation of something that's released as FOSS software?
Thoughts like that go fully against the principles of FOSS.

For me, we can not do especially with the large investors who are using their large part of their funds way to earn  quick profits. There is nothing wrong with what they do because of what they see to succed. We have just to go along the way they live. Or think of other method to  somehow we can keep up with them too.

It is good that Satoshi will recognize because of his invention. We owe a lot of gratitude to him because without his discoveries the open source will not exist right now. But I will never fight for Satoshi because even Satoshi did not do anything just to acknowledge his works. So, why we are angry for? It is not reasonable to cause war because of banning of bitcoin but we need to care and thanks a lot with Satoshi. Our future enlighten by him.

Theres more to what you are suggesting. Instead of boycotting all those mention above, how about try to express your concern in bitcoin using these platforms. Satoshi helps us ao are our government. Why choose if we can have both.

its not just that banks companies and governments lobyying against bitcoin its now also 1500 altcoins lobbying against it.

so good luck with this bitcoin sect.

I believe if they really cracked down unfairly, and I saw it was an injustice to the world, then I would lobby against the changes in whatever way possible, if that includes cutting out social media, then so be it. The masses have more power than we think, we just need to organize ourselves like the government does. Think about it, less than 1% of people work in government services, and yet these people control the 99% of those remaining. A power shift could easily arise if there is coordination.

Unless blockchain technology is patented then companies are well within their rights to understand, develop and implement it in to their business dealings. I don't think Satoshi (if he were alive) would be unhappy that major business are adopting it as a way to improve their speed, efficiency and transparency.

hahahaha... lol, will satoshi fight for you?

It will continously use by people and it's all around the internet. We can't ignore it but we can embrace what for us. Satoshi is made for people money not for governments so it will stay and will continue to develop new catalyst around the blockchain.

it'll be a dilemma in many cases i guess.

Satoshi should have got patent for this if he wanted this to remain exclusive to himself. He wanted to let the community grow and thus may have avoided this.

Yes I will fight for satoshi, because if somebody has done something nice like this is worth fighting for, satoshi has help many life . So if government want to ban crypto, I will protest my government and I will also close my Facebook and delete Twitter and other social networks because without crypto social networks are not useful to me

good point there mate,why need to delete social media if this is the weapon we can use if those mentioned trouble need to implememt ..and why donj spread love instead of war we are getting too harsh here now.we dont need. To be angry herin crypto.

How is this fighting for Satoshi? They cannot shut down Bitcoin, they can however limit the possibility to convert it to FIAT. But no I won't do most things you mention here, because it does not help and it is not the fight the community should take.

I think there is a better resistance than what has been stated in the original post. I don't feel social media like google, facebook is against bitcoin. I think they're helping to organize the system from the bitcoin ecosystem. One of which reduces scam ads from ICO. There are better and better ways. Rushing in determining how we fight is a careless act.

I don't think that "fight" in an appropriate word but to be honest I would do everything that I can that doesn't affect my life much. I would have no problem with deleting both Facebook and Gmail accounts. I can easily replace Gmail with ProtonMail which is far more secure than Gmail. I would definitely protest if my government wanted to ban cryptocurrencies and unfortunately I am afraid that it might happen so that's why I am preparing myself for such situation. However I can't close my bank account, I wouldn't be able to get my payout.

Call me a sheep, but I won't do nothing besides to complain on the net  :D Well, it is the reality and I am sure that 90% of bitcoiners will do the same! haha
I believe while there is such competition between governments as now bitcoin as it is will not be shutted in every corner of our planet, some countries will stay as free zone for attracting tourists and finances in general. Of course if my government will shut bitcoin I will not move for life to another bitcoin welcome country, I simply will move on something else. It is normal I think.

I sure would want to fight for what I really believed in and it includes this one. The thing is, it is easier said than done. Even if we really wanted to fight for this cause, the only thing we can probably do is protest to our government and may not even do it for long or succeed with it. I for sure will not compromise my day jobs and delete my social media accounts just for this cause nor close all my bank accounts because I have a family to support and they are far more important to me than anything else in this world.

Deleting your Facebook, Twitter and other social media accounts makes no sense. If you do that, how will you be able to reach other Bitcoin users around the world? How will you be able to spread the word and help convince others who are yet to believe things that has to do with Bitcoin and the Blockchain Technology? The best thing is to use your Facebook and Twitter and other social media sites to fight for what is right. And protesting against the government openly in public because of cryptocurrencies doesn’t seem much to me like a good idea. And you shouldn’t also close your bank account because of nonsense, you will just end up putting yourself in problem.

I am not sure that many users are ready for such radical actions that the OP offers. We all have obligations to our families and we will always be forced to use Fiat. That means we can't completely cancel the Bank account. Closing accounts on social networks is not a method of influence. Protests have an effect only if they are mass. Users of crypto-currencies is very small. We need to find other methods.

Even though I would like to support Satoshi but we cannot go against the government. I am working in the government and I dont want to risk my job and sacrifice the future of my family. I am thankful for Satoshi so instead of going against the government I will just spread awareness in the social media and my circle of friends. That way I can help Satoshi without putting my job in jeopardy.

Time will come that another most advance technology will be invented and with the baseline from the works of Satoshi. Sathoshi is now a legend in his works that creates a bigger space in the history of currency and for that he will always remember.

I do not think Satoshi would mind the use of his technology. Otherwise, he would have got this copyrighted in the beginning itself .

that wont be necessary as project satoshi has been progressing nicely , im very sure a lot of ordinary people would have no problem doing one or the other or all the things you suggested , this is further proof suggesting that if you control the finances then you can easily control the people. the creators of bitcoins needs to ensure that everyone buys into bitcoins and so it will continue to grow until its detractors shut up and its only at that point will the price stabilize.it will continue to grow until everyone is involved.

Why fight for something if the government soon realizes that it is beneficial for them to recognize bitcoin as a currency and receive their own small(or large) tax.

I will fight for Satoshi. Satoshi invented a truly miracle, without exaggeration. In truth, bitcoin technology can change the principles of the functioning of the economy. And the technology of blockchain is a huge chain of confidence in everything.

Hey, you are forgetting it's open source. It means free and they could tweak it to anything they want. And I also don't see it stealing because they are essentially helping satoshi to spread his vision of using the blockchain tech for good purposes.

Though the bank and government by making their own blockchain is quite real in the near future, I still not convinced that they will steal the idea from Satoshi and besides there is no reason anymore to do that because the world already knew that it was from Satoshi, so I don't think that the bank and government will do such kind of obvious foolishness. They maybe do this to fight decentralized idea by using Satoshi's invention.

Sathoshi is now a legend in his works that creates a bigger space in the history of currency.
I sure would want to fight for what I really believed in and it includes this one.

Its a free world anybody can develop any platform concerning cryprocurrency but that doesn't mean that bitcon will be death or be devalued

  Following all your suggestion is not the best way, it will add the complication and misunderstanding of both parties and what are fighting for, it is nonsense to engage any argument between them because they can do everything to stop bitcoin and have the capability to do so, this is not a cowardness as what you think but it is helpful to do in another way, like instead of deleting facebook and twitter account, use it as tool for spreading and convincing that it really helps people.

I don't think that I can do all the things you are proposing to do if that happens. Maybe, I would just use my social media accounts to raise awareness on who really is the creator of the blockchain technology. Because, I think that if we do those things, we are just contradicting their moves without seeing first if the effects will be good.

Difficult to do so, if countries ban all problems, then you can hardly fight for it.

Rather than deleting facebook, google, twitter or other social media accounts, it would be better if people use this as a means of awareness or sharing facts and experience using bitcoin. Protesting wouldn't help also. People have different perspectives and so you cannot please everybody to agree and accept your argument. Closing of bank account is somehow childish act. Bitcoin user is continuously growing, you should take it easy.

I certainly wouldn't fight for anyone not unless they're close to me or I know personally. I will stand for open-source codes, freedom of information and what is basically right. They can utilize the blockchain in whatever way they want it, and that's not stealing since it isn't copyrighted by anyone. Most companies make variations of an open-source program with the correct citation/credits before copyrighting anything, so somehow, this will give bitcoin and the blockchain some credit in case we're in for a series of blockchain claims and copyrights. Also, there's no point doing the things on the OP since these big guys would likely not listen to any rants or protests concerning their agenda.

Yups,theres nothing fighting can do for us,our community needs patience and calm because thie attitude is what the members need to succeed

And I believe that we need to support bitcoin but not to the extent that we become violent to others this is not good

Maybe I can protest if the bitcoin will be banned.
Our time is now High Tech and even social media is capable of building a group to make a strike for bitcoin.

they are not ashamed and they are stupid, they are not thieves but traitors.

I will never forget satoshi, satoshi has a great figure because he has created a remarkable virtual currency.

I will not fight satoshi, I will always stay with all those who support the crypto world and support satoshi.

We don't talk about Satoshi much because Bitcoin is bigger than one person and Satoshi doesn't want  the fame.  If  would be al ot of different if Satoshi was a public figure and was still active on these boards.

I'm thinking rationally so I just invest only if it's reasonable
Bitcoin become a new key of investment for me to obtain some profit that can't be achieve by ordinary investment

The main point of bitcoin is that it is supposed to work even if government bans it, so there would be no point in protesting. Bitcoin is designed in a way that you don't need to protest, only mine, host nodes, and use it, that's all you need to do, you don't need to make laws around it, it must survive with bitcoin friendly laws and unfriendly bitcoin laws, if this wasn't the case then it would be a failure.

So if you want to "fight for satoshi", just help the network, improve the code, and that's about it.

I do not quite understand who you are going to fight with and for what? Satoshi made his choice - he preferred to remain anonymous and this is his personal decision. Nobody stole anything from him. And no one does not owe him anything. Perhaps Satoshi was never ever.

I think its wise to say that the blockchain technology is fighting for itself daily. There is increasing usage of this technology all over the world even if Bitcoin is neglected or preached against. So we are winning, it doesn't matter now whether they give credit to satoshi or not because at the end , there is no escape route for all blockchain technology users than to give credit to IT.

I think protests don't work. The community that is supporting bitcoin is not big. Also, governments can easily steal the idea as many people have already stolen that.

The government is too strong to accept the protests and they always have a way to deal with every perotes, with the power of their government can do anything. Closing the bank account was never in my mind because the income we received was in the bank, I would fight for the truth I see and I feel, Satoshi has given me many benefits and for the people it is worth fighting for.

Of a truth, there are so many people here who would make serious and damning cases for Satoshi (they may even stick their necks) if things were to go wrong for him. But I don't believe some of the measures you have outlined like, going off social media to register displeasure and closing one's bank account are extreme suggestions.

We need to stay on the social to report any wrong against bitcoin. Secondly, most people can't utilize bitcoin if they don't convert it to fiat. So, the banks are very much relevant to the growth of bitcoin and cryptocurrency at large.

Wasn't mister Satoshi idea to make BTC accessible for everyone? OFC you need to be smart one to fall for government crypto. I wouldn't do anything to be honest.

Resistance will not be a great idea as the government will easily find ways and means to stop the opposition and distinguish people from real problems. Trader cryptography will explicitly support bitcoin. I do not really care as long as it's beneficial to all of us because it's like what they are doing that is for the development and progress of the world economy for the better.

Yes, I would fight for satoshi because it it future technology and it can bring unstoppable benefits for society.

Sathoshi itself has outsourced the full details in GitHub, so that other can get benefited through it. So their is no point of fighting for it. Fighting when happens when it is not outsourced and taken forcefully or hacked. That is the time that you can tell that it is stolen. Companies,banks and governments are lobbying against Bitcoin because they cannot control it but the technology behind is very good which they can use it and make their own blockchain and get benefited.

we should not hate the name of the government, the state apparatus, the Bank or the financial institution etc.
they are not yet aware of the importance of Cryptocurrency for the future.

we'd better keep going forward while giving them a positive point about Ecosystem Bitcoin.

The fight is not for Satoshi alone but for all lovers and beneficiaries of CRYPTO, yes i shall join forces with crypto family to fight, but definitely not through the measures suggested above rather it is better we use the social media platform to expose government hypocrisy and evil plot against Stoshi's invention.

I am a strong supporter of Satoshi"s invention which has massively impacted my life. But the truth is that: some government officials are not sure or are less knowledgeable what bitcoin stands for. The reason they keep fighting it. A massive education of the people about bitcoin will help government understanding and influence their decision making.

There was a lot of skeptics calling bitcoin a Ponzi because of Satoshi's mined coins.  I think most of those critics died down after the first few years.  It's estimated that Satoshi has roughly 1 million bitcoins, which is a fortune of about 8 billion dollars.  I trust him because it's not just about the money with Satoshi. He could of cashed out a long time ago but his own monetary gain wasn't the reason bitcoin was created.

Nobody knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is. There is no one who could say with certainty that such a person existed at all. Therefore, there is no need to do anything for this person.

It's great that a lot of people are still supporting Satoshi Nakamoto even though they do not know him. The only proof that he/she/they existed is the emails and messages sent to his colleagues and obviously, Bitcoin. I can't fight for him since he, the owner, turn his back to Bitcoin, it is not that I don't respect his decision but I think if he is still around there will be a lot of minds developing Bitcoin and the Blockchain having his rights to it. I don't think the reason why we should fight for Satoshi is because we will be earning money through his invention, we should also think what would happen if we oppose the government.

I think it doesn't make sense to delete popular social media, because there are already great substitutions for them made on blockchain. I would not fight for satoshi because Bitcoin will make it on it's own.

If possible I will fight for him because he has created so much life earning opportunity for millions of people worldwide. I Long live satoshi.

Those three option that are listed above are not the best way to fight this type of fight. For now social media is the easiest means of disseminating information so you do not need to delete your account. Cryptocurrency is not fully adopted so you still need the bank to survive. The best way to fight is by building more sophisticated blockchain and cryptocurrency based platform that will be appealing to the people to the extent that the whole world will start fighting for bitcoin and satoshi.

I do not need to defend a person who brings something so useful to human life. He said everything he had to say with what he already did.

There is increasing usage of this technology all over the world even if Bitcoin is neglected or preached against. Cryptocurrency is not fully adopted so you still need the bank to survive.

Satoshi nakamoto is founder of online virtual currency bitcoin, he is a great hero in Morden currency market.. I salute him and also fight for him

I do hope that whoever resorts to blockchain gives enough and sufficient credit to Satoshi Nakamoto as a sign of respect and gratitude.

Yet, as blockchain was declared an open source software, Satoshi Nakamoto for sure knew that he is allowing any person to modify, enhance and use the source code as they deem needed.  So with due credits or not, the blockchain was decided by Satoshi to be open and free for all. I guess he was not expecting anything in return but for the technology to be used.

satoshi is the best dad with bitcoin and everyone is curious and wants to know who he is? And are you alive and active in the bitcoin field? and he was the founder of bitcoin

I mean it's a tricky question..
I assume for sure he had such a great motivation for what he has been doing and try to change the economic world and capitalism in the way that it was, but in the end, or in the meantime BTC did not change a thing because it's another pretty damn trade object and you cannot have the idea of what is going on. And that scares people as you might think. We need stability and trust here to continue promoting his idea.
For many of us it was such a distraptive idea that made bring us here and not the quick bucks thing.