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Title: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: JungleOnion on March 28, 2018, 05:31:52 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: carlfebz2 on March 28, 2018, 05:37:40 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting

Reading up on the link. One thing that do puzzles me on which regarding to this question.

What do you think the snake will do? Haha

I don't even know on whats the next move.


Checking out with those image it is really a good technical analysis specially on death cross but I don't see we would really end up early.We might able to form base on those technical aspects but I do believe on bitcoins capability.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: jimbo2000 on March 28, 2018, 05:58:57 PM

What do you think the snake will do? Haha


Had me chuckling too. I think so many people are putting an emphasis on a potential death cross signaling a large decrease in price that it will definitely happen if the cross forms. Not because it's a good signal, but because it is acting as a self fulfilling prophecy. People are watching it so intently and treating it almost as gospel. The biggest thing to realize in any free market is the price is not decided by signals but by actions. If on the cross everyone was told that it's a great buying opportunity and signals an uptrend then what do you think would happen?

It's much like the chicken and the egg debate, in this case I'm fairly sure the chicken comes first (I choose chicken because it will resemble the actions people take when that cross forms)


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: JungleOnion on March 28, 2018, 06:33:18 PM
Yeah I think the self-fulfilling prophecy is a reflection of human psychology. Not everyone is waiting to act on the death cross, some already did, some won't and some will once those EMAs touch. Charting is pretty subjective even if there is objective "rules" such as the death cross. There's always doubt and disagreement and that fuels up volatility and in turn helps establish what outcome really is the one that's going to win.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: CreamyCheesecake on March 29, 2018, 03:51:27 AM
yeah the week chart looks like price is just starting to fall. It sucks because I'm at a loss since 10,000 and I don't seem to understand how to cover losses instead of letting everything keep falling and falling. I thought 9,000 was already pushing it, then 8,000 and just when it seems 8,000 is already holding properly, 7,000 is going to come in no time so it's always hard to accept and figure out what prices are key levels to actually take a decision.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: salterious on March 29, 2018, 05:20:38 AM
Yeah I think the self-fulfilling prophecy is a reflection of human psychology. Not everyone is waiting to act on the death cross, some already did, some won't and some will once those EMAs touch. Charting is pretty subjective even if there is objective "rules" such as the death cross. There's always doubt and disagreement and that fuels up volatility and in turn helps establish what outcome really is the one that's going to win.
But if everybody has the same Fibonacci levels or same resistance and support levels then it really does become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Troubles happens when people use a ton of different indicators, and project the future in a multitude of ways, in that regard nobody agrees on anything.

I especially liked the part about the bears, bull, bears and horses OP nice drawings ;D.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: jimbo2000 on March 29, 2018, 07:22:48 PM
Yeah I think the self-fulfilling prophecy is a reflection of human psychology. Not everyone is waiting to act on the death cross, some already did, some won't and some will once those EMAs touch. Charting is pretty subjective even if there is objective "rules" such as the death cross. There's always doubt and disagreement and that fuels up volatility and in turn helps establish what outcome really is the one that's going to win.

There's always some doubt and disagreement but most are generally in agreement. At least enough to make a difference, so many people use the death cross as a signal of bad times to come so they'll sell in 'advance' of those bad times and in turn cause those bad times themselves.

yeah the week chart looks like price is just starting to fall. It sucks because I'm at a loss since 10,000 and I don't seem to understand how to cover losses instead of letting everything keep falling and falling. I thought 9,000 was already pushing it, then 8,000 and just when it seems 8,000 is already holding properly, 7,000 is going to come in no time so it's always hard to accept and figure out what prices are key levels to actually take a decision.

If 7k is broken we'll drop to the low 6's so try sell about 6900 and buy back in the low 6000s or wait to see if the 6000 support level holds. That's my opinion anyway. It seems like for the last nearly 2 months it's been destined that we'll test the previous low again. What happens afterwards is anyone's guess but I'm more inclined to think we'll dip further than recover. Some people see a double bottom as a positive thing, I do not.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: JungleOnion on March 30, 2018, 03:33:17 AM
Quote from: salterious link=topic=3212591.msg33417134#msg33417134

I especially liked the part about the bears, bull, bears and horses OP nice drawings ;D.

Thank you, somehow there's lots of animals hidden in charts haha


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: JungleOnion on March 30, 2018, 11:34:23 PM
As a very key important price, there's a lot of attraction to 6,800. A double bottom is the only thing that can save crypto now and that would only work if we come back above 7,100.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: Slow death on March 31, 2018, 12:07:14 AM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting


 you are very creative, you have been able to analyze and you make figures in the graphic, wow is very incredible. But I have no idea what the snake will do, these are very terrible months, with this fall every day we will have many threads of people who are in panic wondering if the price will increase and the news channels are commenting on this every day. So, like I said, it's going to be terrible months.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: Tamilson on March 31, 2018, 02:21:53 AM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting


 you are very creative, you have been able to analyze and you make figures in the graphic, wow is very incredible. But I have no idea what the snake will do, these are very terrible months, with this fall every day we will have many threads of people who are in panic wondering if the price will increase and the news channels are commenting on this every day. So, like I said, it's going to be terrible months.


Maybe the snake will bite into something and make the market worst ( base on how the snake positioned ). Previous months was terribly tough for cryptos as many hopes are dying now with their big losses and losing interest to invest more especially for those who are just now experiencing this kind of long bearish market.

OP, I didn't know until now that we can make animals from the graphs. ;D Nice!


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: cydrix on March 31, 2018, 02:33:22 AM
It's obvious bitcoin is not on the trend list lately. There are many ads about crypto's but I've seen almost starts with bit or something but definitely not Bitcoin ad. If we just have an ad that can help Bitcoin get up again it would surely benefit us all. The link was a bit parody don't think i can take it seriously.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: zhangxie29152784 on March 31, 2018, 02:38:23 AM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting


I find it strange that when bitcoin reached $20, 000 last year, many experts jumped out and said it would reach $500,000 -- $1 million.

The price of bitcoin has dropped sharply this year, and many experts say it will die and will continue to fall sharply.

I just want to say that I don't believe in the death cross, and I don't believe in any experts. I just believe what I see.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: JungleOnion on April 01, 2018, 07:58:08 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting


 you are very creative, you have been able to analyze and you make figures in the graphic, wow is very incredible. But I have no idea what the snake will do, these are very terrible months, with this fall every day we will have many threads of people who are in panic wondering if the price will increase and the news channels are commenting on this every day. So, like I said, it's going to be terrible months.


Thank you for the feedback. There's simply still lots of people in profit if they got in last year so it is logical that we are hitting these prices because people are dumping as easy as price pumped. What's interesting to take a note on is the BTC dominance in the markets. It seems to be increasing even tho prices are falling so for me that makes me think if there is going to be a bounce or a short term recovery, alts will recover first.

Quote from: Tamilson link=topic=3212591.msg33565526#msg33565526

OP, I didn't know until now that we can make animals from the graphs. ;D Nice!
they might help us understand one day the hidden nature of price action!   :D


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: milewilda on April 01, 2018, 08:05:20 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting


 you are very creative, you have been able to analyze and you make figures in the graphic, wow is very incredible. But I have no idea what the snake will do, these are very terrible months, with this fall every day we will have many threads of people who are in panic wondering if the price will increase and the news channels are commenting on this every day. So, like I said, it's going to be terrible months.


Thank you for the feedback. There's simply still lots of people in profit if they got in last year so it is logical that we are hitting these prices because people are dumping as easy as price pumped. What's interesting to take a note on is the BTC dominance in the markets. It seems to be increasing even tho prices are falling so for me that makes me think if there is going to be a bounce or a short term recovery, alts will recover first.

Quote from: Tamilson link=topic=3212591.msg33565526#msg33565526

OP, I didn't know until now that we can make animals from the graphs. ;D Nice!
they might help us understand one day the hidden nature of price action!   :D
When it comes to dominance there no doubt that bitcoin would really have it.I was amazed too on the images being posted into that link but that death cross thing did get lots of attention since we do know the Moving averages 100 and 50 crossed to each other which do really signifies a very bearish market.For now we are seeing price declines but somehow bitcoin do hold on 6k range.Hope we wont able to touch below prices again,the good thing its still holding.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: afridi90 on April 01, 2018, 08:11:24 PM
i think price of all coin are coiming to there origanl price from there they are pumped up and then i am hared belive that btc will touch this year 30k$


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: Aleister Crowley on April 01, 2018, 09:06:27 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting

Reading up on the link. One thing that do puzzles me on which regarding to this question.

What do you think the snake will do? Haha

I don't even know on whats the next move.


Checking out with those image it is really a good technical analysis specially on death cross but I don't see we would really end up early.We might able to form base on those technical aspects but I do believe on bitcoins capability.
I'm not very experienced in predicting the diagram ,, but now we have surpassed death cross ,, then what next should we do ?? I think this will be something really bad for bitcoin .. is it possible that bitcoin will continue to fall? do we have to stay against this? I have found losses of up to 30% to this day


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: patt0 on April 01, 2018, 10:03:55 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting


Funny to read, but getting more serious now, I don't think April will be crucial for for crypto. Even if we stay the hole year on a a bear trend, it wont be decisive for crypto. We already had 2 years like this one, and then we just came back for ATH. Right now we will only recover with real adoption, because awareness of bitcoin already happen, and crypto mania ia over, with a lot of people getting burned in the process.

Bitcoin has amazing value, and soon will be able to have real use, since it's scalability problems are being solved. We still have a lot of other problems to sove, such as regulatory problems, and user interface problems (because BTC is not easy to use for the average user). Once all that happens, and adoptions starts, bitcoin will boom again. It can even go to $1k again, although I doubt that, but it wont be stopped.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: JungleOnion on April 02, 2018, 03:14:32 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting


Funny to read, but getting more serious now, I don't think April will be crucial for for crypto. Even if we stay the hole year on a a bear trend, it wont be decisive for crypto. We already had 2 years like this one, and then we just came back for ATH. Right now we will only recover with real adoption, because awareness of bitcoin already happen, and crypto mania ia over, with a lot of people getting burned in the process.

Bitcoin has amazing value, and soon will be able to have real use, since it's scalability problems are being solved. We still have a lot of other problems to sove, such as regulatory problems, and user interface problems (because BTC is not easy to use for the average user). Once all that happens, and adoptions starts, bitcoin will boom again. It can even go to $1k again, although I doubt that, but it wont be stopped.

yeah adoption is organic demand and it seems the only demand crypto has been getting for the past few months is from speculators. We definitely need that organic demand to stabilise the price.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: Everglow on April 02, 2018, 04:47:57 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting

An interesting analysis with nice drawing lol. "But for now, short term important prices are 10,283, 12,243, 13620 up and 6,800, 5900 and 5,300 down" Well you maybe right when price fall to 7k again. So i hope in short term price will reach 12k again


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: JC btc on April 02, 2018, 05:56:27 PM
If you are really a fan of cryptocurrency you must also know that there are also people who are not in favor of it just like china and banks so they will spread negative news that will lead you to confusion but if  you will just focus here you will learn and believe that  is worth investing and holding at.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: gantez on April 02, 2018, 06:18:58 PM
As a very key important price, there's a lot of attraction to 6,800. A double bottom is the only thing that can save crypto now and that would only work if we come back above 7,100.


Haha... I dont think that double buttom will be a sign for a reversal trend. If we see a double buttom candle, I have to wait for the next two candles to determine what trend is coming, I wont just dive in. Nope, I won't.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: jhongzjhong on April 02, 2018, 07:25:38 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting

Good job OP how creative you are I can't imagine that we can do animal graphics design in price chart movement.
I don't have any idea on speculation or whatever prediction price in all cryptocurrencies.
But, for sure I could think that they have all volatile characteristics that every now and then the price will back to normal again.
Those media bloggers and writers that making FUD news regarding bitcoin who feeding by the bank to destroy bitcoin must be stopped.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: Shenzou on April 02, 2018, 08:08:12 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting

Not just based on some analysis, but based on the field and the news, it almost you can feel it in the air, the intense pressure and the anticipation, people and i am sure that investors have been holding their patience as they see the price of bitcoin gradually going down and see they money and investments going down with it, and if things continue to go bad it might get even worse and we start to see bitcoin really taking a hit, but we always have hope and we should all stay positive and be wise about our decision so we don't make thing worse than they are.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: Mister1k on April 02, 2018, 08:21:40 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting

Not just based on some analysis, but based on the field and the news, it almost you can feel it in the air, the intense pressure and the anticipation, people and i am sure that investors have been holding their patience as they see the price of bitcoin gradually going down and see they money and investments going down with it, and if things continue to go bad it might get even worse and we start to see bitcoin really taking a hit, but we always have hope and we should all stay positive and be wise about our decision so we don't make thing worse than they are.

Actually today it shows little bump in the market but you are saying that bitcoin dumping down. These kind of words only make the people think bad about the crypto currencies and investors will migrated to fist cash again.
Real fact may people mentioning that bitcoin value will be bumped in the market.
Many experts saying that bitcoin will be touched more than 90k USD in some years.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: bozo333 on April 02, 2018, 10:11:49 PM
i think price of all coin are coiming to there origanl price from there they are pumped up and then i am hared belive that btc will touch this year 30k$
It is impossible to predict the crypto market. Because number of coins are available in the market so we don't think all the coins are recovering in original price. But top growing coins are reached in the good position so we should expect more than 30k USD is possible in end of this year. Everything is decide to current situation so we should wait and see the market.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: danherbias07 on April 02, 2018, 10:37:28 PM
You should have put a tree there so that the snake will climb.  ;D
People are hoping for that so it might help make them positive. I bet the holders are the one left in the bitcoin technology that is why it is resisting to go further down. Panic holders might have sold their coins already with the fear of going to zero which is highly impossible.

Dont really know where this will go but I will put my bets on bitcoin and let it stay there.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: Lumada on April 02, 2018, 11:14:54 PM
You should have put a tree there so that the snake will climb.  ;D
People are hoping for that so it might help make them positive. I bet the holders are the one left in the bitcoin technology that is why it is resisting to go further down. Panic holders might have sold their coins already with the fear of going to zero which is highly impossible.

Don't really know where this will go but I will put my bets on bitcoin and let it stay there.
Don't panic when we know that we invested in the right coin, almost all crypto at a lower price but doesn't mean we're already at lose, there will come a time it will all rise again as long as its a good coin.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: Ryanpogi on April 03, 2018, 03:41:40 AM
April is important in cryptocurrency because it has gradually increased. It's going to be a lot of investors. thanks.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: Alex077 on April 03, 2018, 02:06:33 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting

Reading up on the link. One thing that do puzzles me on which regarding to this question.

What do you think the snake will do? Haha


Yes, the link without the text also made me laugh. But if you look properly at bitcoin's charts in a past few years, you can really notice a certain pattern - bitcoin's price starts to increase in April.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: JungleOnion on April 03, 2018, 11:04:17 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting

An interesting analysis with nice drawing lol. "But for now, short term important prices are 10,283, 12,243, 13620 up and 6,800, 5900 and 5,300 down" Well you maybe right when price fall to 7k again. So i hope in short term price will reach 12k again

thanks. 6,800 proved to be very solid for this bounce. We'll see what happens when those EMAS try to change direction. I'm still thinking this bounce is just to let them fall more so we can get that 50 EMA to touch the 200 and see what happens there.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: Cosbycoin on April 05, 2018, 12:42:21 PM
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jungleonion/bitcoin-price-always-interesting


Funny to read, but getting more serious now, I don't think April will be crucial for for crypto. Even if we stay the hole year on a a bear trend, it wont be decisive for crypto. We already had 2 years like this one, and then we just came back for ATH. Right now we will only recover with real adoption, because awareness of bitcoin already happen, and crypto mania ia over, with a lot of people getting burned in the process.

Bitcoin has amazing value, and soon will be able to have real use, since it's scalability problems are being solved. We still have a lot of other problems to sove, such as regulatory problems, and user interface problems (because BTC is not easy to use for the average user). Once all that happens, and adoptions starts, bitcoin will boom again. It can even go to $1k again, although I doubt that, but it wont be stopped.

yeah adoption is organic demand and it seems the only demand crypto has been getting for the past few months is from speculators. We definitely need that organic demand to stabilise the price.
Since the start of this year, things were not in very much favor of the crypto coins and the entire crypto market was falling and that the rates of most of the crypto coins were getting too low. Since past few days, we have started experiencing a positive change in the crypto market and that there is a slight change in the prices of the crypto coins which is a very good news and that we need to keep on holding our coins for more better earning.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: vintages on April 05, 2018, 01:29:23 PM
April is important in cryptocurrency because it has gradually increased. It's going to be a lot of investors. thanks.

We can't be so sure if there will be so much investors this April cause we dont really know the turn Cryptocurrency particularly bitcoin; its just unpredictable. Every month is important to cryptocurrency and not just Apirl. If there will be less FUD and probably more FOMO then this month will better than the three previous months this year.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: GayOfThrones on April 14, 2018, 10:27:09 PM
yeah the week chart looks like price is just starting to fall. It sucks because I'm at a loss since 10,000 and I don't seem to understand how to cover losses instead of letting everything keep falling and falling. I thought 9,000 was already pushing it, then 8,000 and just when it seems 8,000 is already holding properly, 7,000 is going to come in no time so it's always hard to accept and figure out what prices are key levels to actually take a decision.

Be patient and you may have to tell us what you feel when it touches 5000 :)
I agree this month is crucial, perhaps even this week: we are at a crossroad, either the market is reversing or we are in a bulltrap. I am afraid the latter is true.


Title: Re: Overall view of why April is crucial for crypto
Post by: RondoAnyar on April 14, 2018, 10:30:03 PM
April I think it can serve as a gateway for crypto to experience price changes. I hope when the month of April the price of coins can be high again and still can have a positive trend until the end of 2018.