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Title: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: Alexddr on March 28, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
Who in your mind poisoned Mr. Skripal and him daughter? Is it really Russian intelligence services or the popularity Theresa May's dropped and she decided to promote it in such a way?


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: BADecker on March 28, 2018, 09:10:39 PM
Skripal Incident a Diabolical Plot to Demonize Russia (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/237240-2018-03-26-skripal-incident-a-diabolical-plot-to-demonize-russia.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/045-0326100704-Skripals-dtr.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/237240-2018-03-26-skripal-incident-a-diabolical-plot-to-demonize-russia.htm)


Likely cooked up by dark forces in London and Washington, the Skripal incident escalated a long-running campaign to politically and economically marginalize, weaken, contain and isolate Russia.

The scheme recklessly heads things toward possible East/West military confrontation - especially after Trump's capitulation to extremist neocons in charge of US foreign policy.

Bipartisan Russophobic hardliners in Washington want tougher tactics used against the Kremlin - including full implementation of the so-called "Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATS).

Enacted last August, it calls for imposing tough sanctions on Russia relating to cyber security, its energy and defense sectors, its operation in Syria, and other activities.

It directs the US Treasury and National Security Council to develop a strategy for countering Russia. The measure targets Iran and North Korea the same way.


Read more at http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/237240-2018-03-26-skripal-incident-a-diabolical-plot-to-demonize-russia.htm.


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Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: Alexddr on March 29, 2018, 06:58:53 AM
Skripal Incident a Diabolical Plot to Demonize Russia (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/237240-2018-03-26-skripal-incident-a-diabolical-plot-to-demonize-russia.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/045-0326100704-Skripals-dtr.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/237240-2018-03-26-skripal-incident-a-diabolical-plot-to-demonize-russia.htm)


Likely cooked up by dark forces in London and Washington, the Skripal incident escalated a long-running campaign to politically and economically marginalize, weaken, contain and isolate Russia.

The scheme recklessly heads things toward possible East/West military confrontation - especially after Trump's capitulation to extremist neocons in charge of US foreign policy.

Bipartisan Russophobic hardliners in Washington want tougher tactics used against the Kremlin - including full implementation of the so-called "Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATS).

Enacted last August, it calls for imposing tough sanctions on Russia relating to cyber security, its energy and defense sectors, its operation in Syria, and other activities.

It directs the US Treasury and National Security Council to develop a strategy for countering Russia. The measure targets Iran and North Korea the same way.


Read more at http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/237240-2018-03-26-skripal-incident-a-diabolical-plot-to-demonize-russia.htm.


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Thank you for your link.
All discussions in the GB government and the media are defies common sense and unsubstantiated that they cause not even outrage, but laughter from complete idiocy.
Although humor is black, because people suffer and this leads to an escalation of the conflict.


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: CoinOnTheBeach on March 29, 2018, 07:51:36 AM

so in a twisted plot of action the West framed Russia, making it look like Russia meddled in the Brexit vote, US presedential elections and poisoned the ex double spy..?
clever indeed. Probably poisoning Litvinienko back in 2006 was Tony Blair's idea too.
Sly Labour. Sly Torries.   


but no.
in the real world it was Putin.
Same who invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea in 2014. 
The exactly same one who murdered almost 300 civilians in  Buynaksk, Moscow and Volgodonsk in September 1999 starting the Chechen war.
The same who arranged murders of political oponents and journalists, like Anna Politovskaya.. (...)

in is Putin. all the way.


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: September11Myth on March 30, 2018, 09:58:45 AM
We don't even know if Skripal has actually been poisoned or not. We have no evidence for that. No medical records. No updates. We only have some declarations by authorities which has already been established being serial liars. So what are we really talking about?


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: covfefe_ on March 30, 2018, 10:04:51 AM
Putin did. He had promised in front of Russia to make those double agent pay for what they did and he did what he promised.
Putin is sincere to the people and that's why he is such widely accepted in his country.
Though some nations are protesting it as anti-diplomatic work, we clearly know diplomacy was and is just a formal word to disguise the covert warfare.

Here's a video from 2010, Putin promising the revenge
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-traitors-kick-bucket-sergei-skripal-latest-video-30-pieces-silver-a8243206.html

And Here's Russia media warning the double agents, Skripal is just the start.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43330498


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: glot on April 09, 2018, 01:01:20 AM
History Of Violins. Who follows the course of events, he will understand and spoil!

In short to summarize the facts:
- Creaked poisoned by the most powerful poison, 2 grams will kill half a country instantly
- poisoned by him at the restaurant .
- no, on the bench.
- no, in the car
- no, the door handle is smeared.
- no, poisoned suitcase.
- no, everything's poisoned.
- Oh, and buckwheat is poisoned, that's for sure.
but they didn't die instantly, but staggered already killed half a day somewhere
- but the policeman who found them almost glued flippers instantly.
- but praise the gods instantly set poison
immediately entered antidote than heroically saved Skipala and COP
- COP on the second day out, give me five, big guy!
- but Squeaked in a coma, and will never recover
and no, the daughter came to
Oh, and dad came back to life... miracle!
- and they both quickly go on an amendment, shit your strongest advance poison
- the restaurant is surrounded by astronauts in spacesuits
- the Park is surrounded by astronauts in spacesuits
- the house is surrounded by astronauts in spacesuits
- the astronauts gather in bottles of highly toxic evidence
- they are in spacesuits, as it is deadly, but next to them are the cops without protection... their no one not pity
- the shop was cut down, it's such a terrible poison that the shop is toxic in two weeks
- Yes, but it's not a shop that's poisoned, it's a pen in the house... that is buckwheat
- but the cat survived the poisoned house... the policeman touched the Violinist and almost died, and the cat survived... and pigs
- but forgot about them, and two weeks later they died in the house of hunger
and they were immediately burned, as they poisoned the strongest poison
two bitch of the week were poisoned with the strongest poison and lived, and now died, and their urgent need to be cremated
but only the pigs died, the cat has survived the poison and he was just stress, so put to sleep and burn

Nobody forgot? That's Comedy.


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: Alexddr on April 10, 2018, 05:51:56 PM
History Of Violins. Who follows the course of events, he will understand and spoil!
...............
Nobody forgot? That's Comedy.

Cool asked!
Is this really the whole international political system turned into a farce and a comedy, or did I just reach the age when I learned to see the true background of things? ... Our world is rolling into the abyss ...


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: HelperAdvisorsLLP on April 10, 2018, 08:58:56 PM
I believe that it was Russian government, but we will never find out the truth


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: September11Myth on May 01, 2018, 10:48:12 PM
Putin did. He had promised in front of Russia to make those double agent pay for what they did and he did what he promised.

Then he must be incredibly inefficient, since Skripal and his daughter are now alive and well, according to Western mainstream media. OMG, the KGB is not even able to kill someone any more, not even using the most lethal poison which exists!
Unfortunately, Skripal and his daughter will not be allowed to talk to the press, nor to anyone else by the way. I wonder why :D


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: mae1234 on May 02, 2018, 01:44:11 AM
Sergei Skripal is a former Russian military officer and British spy who acted as a double agent for the UK's intelligence services during the 1990's and early 2000's, until his arrest in December 2004. On March 4, 2018, he and his daughter Yulia Skripal were poisoned in Salisbury, England, with a Novichok nerve agent, according to official UK sources.[3][4] After three weeks in critical condition, Yulia regained consciousness and was able to speak.[5] Sergei was also in a critical condition until he regained consciousness one month after the attack.


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: Rashid6293603 on May 02, 2018, 07:26:14 AM
He was poisoned by the same customers as Litvinenko. Unfortunately in the 21st century, Putin's Russia is only engaged in the destruction


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: wolf_norris on August 04, 2018, 01:12:04 PM
There has been a bunch of news since this case came up. Just a month or so ago a women found a perfume bottle in a park with poison in it. She has since died. This event helped them identify some suspects on CCTV cameras. They are Russians. I don't think it's hard to believe that Russia would try to kill Skripal. They consider him a traitor to their country. You can read more details about what's new here: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/19/police-identify-skripal-novichok-salisbury-poisoning-suspects


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: Jet Cash on August 04, 2018, 01:52:45 PM
The most logical explanation is that the event was ordered by the " Deep State", and the hit was done by a German EU asset working in Porton Down. Had the Russians done it, then it would have been a professional hit, not the amateur botch up that one expects from EU "assets". There is no conceivable reason for the Russians to have done it, by the way.

That is the only explanation that fits all of the "facts" that have come to light.


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: wolf_norris on August 05, 2018, 01:13:32 PM
The most logical explanation is that the event was ordered by the " Deep State", and the hit was done by a German EU asset working in Porton Down. Had the Russians done it, then it would have been a professional hit, not the amateur botch up that one expects from EU "assets". There is no conceivable reason for the Russians to have done it, by the way.

That is the only explanation that fits all of the "facts" that have come to light.
Could you explain in a little more detail? Why wouldn't the Russians have any motivation? Didn't Skripal betray Russia? What would make Germans want to kill him? The article I shared implies that they've identified several Russians that were involved in the assassination attempt. You don't believe that? What makes you think that Russian assassins are better than Germans?


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: erikjoy on August 05, 2018, 01:55:38 PM
The most logical explanation is that the event was ordered by the " Deep State", and the hit was done by a German EU asset working in Porton Down. Had the Russians done it, then it would have been a professional hit, not the amateur botch up that one expects from EU "assets". There is no conceivable reason for the Russians to have done it, by the way.

That is the only explanation that fits all of the "facts" that have come to light.
Could you explain in a little more detail? Why wouldn't the Russians have any motivation? Didn't Skripal betray Russia? What would make Germans want to kill him? The article I shared implies that they've identified several Russians that were involved in the assassination attempt. You don't believe that? What makes you think that Russian assassins are better than Germans?

A simple cost-benefit analysis would show that clearly, a blatent poisoning like this has much more damage back home than it does good. Putin isn't stupid, if he really wanted revenge then he would do it in a way that wouldn't point all the evidence back to him. Russians are certainly not clumsy when it comes to spy work.

So who did it then? Well the "evidence" that the poison came from Siberia is far from damning--anyone can waltz across the border to Kazakhstan and then hop on the next flight to London with a bit in his pocket. But it certainly is a good way to lay the blame on someone...


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: wolf_norris on August 06, 2018, 06:47:57 PM
The most logical explanation is that the event was ordered by the " Deep State", and the hit was done by a German EU asset working in Porton Down. Had the Russians done it, then it would have been a professional hit, not the amateur botch up that one expects from EU "assets". There is no conceivable reason for the Russians to have done it, by the way.

That is the only explanation that fits all of the "facts" that have come to light.
Could you explain in a little more detail? Why wouldn't the Russians have any motivation? Didn't Skripal betray Russia? What would make Germans want to kill him? The article I shared implies that they've identified several Russians that were involved in the assassination attempt. You don't believe that? What makes you think that Russian assassins are better than Germans?

A simple cost-benefit analysis would show that clearly, a blatent poisoning like this has much more damage back home than it does good. Putin isn't stupid, if he really wanted revenge then he would do it in a way that wouldn't point all the evidence back to him. Russians are certainly not clumsy when it comes to spy work.

So who did it then? Well the "evidence" that the poison came from Siberia is far from damning--anyone can waltz across the border to Kazakhstan and then hop on the next flight to London with a bit in his pocket. But it certainly is a good way to lay the blame on someone...
You didn't really answer as to why you think the Russians are better at assassinations than the Germans. Why do you think the Germans would do it at all? If they did, they perhaps they did a pretty damn good job, if they made it seems like the Russians did it. If Putin is so concerned about damage being done "back home", why isn't he more forthcoming in helping in the investigation? It sounds like you watch a lot of Russian propaganda. You write as if you think it's impossible for the Russian government to do something stupid.


Title: Re: Who Poisoned Mr. Skripal?
Post by: Sandra_Skelley on August 10, 2018, 05:10:39 AM
It is so hard to answer to this question. Both options are possible. Conspiracy is of course present here. We have seen in the past how the Russian intelligence has eliminated its agents with similar methods. Does this mean that they always do it this way? On the other hand, I do not believe that the British government used that option just to be popular. It was helpful and the media made the event very popular but this was not their plan. It was too risky for a government to play that role. I believe some people who do not want Russia to succeed in organizing the world cup financed this operation. Governments were just toys.